"Stay away from dairy"
raven56706
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so when i recently talked to a doc about my anxiety, he said it would be best to limit your dairy intake. i forgot to ask why but i wondered why.
is dairy bad for you? i mean i would think drinking milk can only help and not hurt you. of course unless you are lactose tolerant.
is dairy bad for you? i mean i would think drinking milk can only help and not hurt you. of course unless you are lactose tolerant.
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People with anxiety often say their symptoms worsen after consuming dairy. That's likely the reason for the advise.1
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I’ve heard this. Also that dairy increases autoimmune response.5
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I would want to find out why before I cut a whole food group from my diet. Can you call and find out? I have anxiety and don't eat much dairy (because I dislike most forms of it) but when I do have it my symptoms don't get worse or anything. There could be a good reason but I'd be worried that the doctor was on the anti-dairy bandwagon.5
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Limiting food groups is the cyclical panacea for any and all ailments depending on what the fashion is.10
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He had to tell you something.
Never underestimate the power of a placebo.
Now why are you so anxious? That is the real question.5 -
Hi Raven, I did some googling and I haven't found anything (freely accessible) to back up the dairy-anxiety connection.
The closest thing I found was in this peer reviewed paper about dairy products and their effects on humans.: http://advances.nutrition.org/content/5/2/131.full
It references a study that found evidence of the alleged dairy-anxiety link:
Quote from section on Cognitive Function: "[In a study with] ~1000 Australian adults... regular-fat dairy was associated with increased stress, anxiety, cognitive decline, and worse memory. Of note, this study was performed by using questionnaires and not ad hoc tests."
From my interpretation, the authors of the linked paper did not think that the anxiety-dairy connection was conclusive, and had issues with how the study was performed in general.0 -
Call the doctor's office and ask for more info. They'll ask the doctor for you and call you back with an answer. Then you don't have to guess.8
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raven56706 wrote: »so when i recently talked to a doc about my anxiety, he said it would be best to limit your dairy intake. i forgot to ask why but i wondered why.
is dairy bad for you? i mean i would think drinking milk can only help and not hurt you. of course unless you are lactose tolerant.
Dairy is associated w/increased risk for protate, ovarian and breast cancer.
Consumption of high kevels of saturated fat from dairy is associated w/increased risk of heart or vascular disease.
For these and other health concerns, see:
http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/health-concerns-about-dairy-products20 -
I have anxiety, depression, and two autoimmune disorders....they will pry my dairy from my cold dead hands. If there's a correlation, I'll be happy to take a pill (or suffer) with my chocolate milk and cheese sticks.4
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Sounds like your Doctor has managed to add a new anxiety!16
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MotherOfSharpei wrote: »I have anxiety, depression, and two autoimmune disorders....they will try my dairy from my cold dead hands. If there's a correlation, I'll be happy to take a pill (or suffer) with my chocolate milk and cheese sticks.
This, except only one autoimmune disorder.
Given that I've actually increased my dairy consumption quite a bit over the past year, with none of those issues having a corresponding increase, I'm skeptical.3 -
Since I added dairy back to my diet (5 years completely off dairy), I have much better skin and my life quality is SO SO SO much better. I eat a lot of cheese, yoghurts, etc besides the normal milk for drinking. So... It depends. I had a bit of acne and thought dairy is a NO NO, but since I eat loads of it I have a skin that is so pure and with a nice tone, no redness, nothing. I dont even need make up to look perfect, I get compliments very often on how great my skin is.
I also feel calmer. But maybe cause my skin is just great now. I am low carb.2 -
And... people. Stop confusing mental weakness and mental problems with some food intolerances. Anxiety? Everybody has it. Just focus on your life and accept the fact that it is meant to be tough, you just have to get stronger on all levels. Dairy or gluten or any other food has little to nothing to do with some fears or thoughts happening in your mind. Especially the gluten free trend is driving me.... crazy. So much people living in a scince fiction world where Gluten is the new Lord Voldemore....21
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Havanaohlala wrote: ». Anxiety? Everybody has it. Just focus on your life and accept the fact that it is meant to be tough, you just have to get stronger on all levels. ...
Yes and stop being depressed, everybody is sad sometimes, just toughen up and be happy
I am not aware of any links between dairy and anxiety - but to trivialise actual medical issues like anxiety to 'Just get stronger' is really poor.
My guess OP is that you were presenting with some symptoms like butterflies in stomach ,nausea, diahhroea etc - which can well be part of anxiety but are also common symptoms of lactose intolerance - perhaps Dr is suggesting cutting dairy to see if such symptoms improved and if you also have mild lactose intolerance??
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I've never heard of dairy causing anxiety, but I guess you could say I feel increased anxiety after consuming milk, but only because it gives me the gurgles (bloating, gas, queasiness, etc.) I have emetophobia, so feeling ill makes me very anxious. Aged cheeses don't bother me, so I still eat them.1
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I don't know about the connection of the dairy with anxiety, but I try to avoid dairy. Every animal drinks only mother's milk. And we can get calcium from many other products, it is not a problem17
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Anna I'm sure vegans avoid dairy - but this thread really isnt about ethical decisions around foods
OP's question is not about that at all.
and nobody said avoiding it, if you want to or medically need to, is a problem.
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Havanaohlala wrote: »And... people. Stop confusing mental weakness and mental problems with some food intolerances. Anxiety? Everybody has it. Just focus on your life and accept the fact that it is meant to be tough, you just have to get stronger on all levels. Dairy or gluten or any other food has little to nothing to do with some fears or thoughts happening in your mind. Especially the gluten free trend is driving me.... crazy. So much people living in a scince fiction world where Gluten is the new Lord Voldemore....
You really have no idea. Everyone gets anxious from time to time but this is so different from suffering from deliberating anxiety. You can't just snap out of it by being stronger and accepting that life it tough. It does not work like that.23 -
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I am avoiding dairy for my son who has a cow's milk protein sensitivity and I'm nursing him but I figured my anxiety is getting better from all my sessions with the psychologist3
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Havanaohlala wrote: »And... people. Stop confusing mental weakness and mental problems with some food intolerances. Anxiety? Everybody has it. Just focus on your life and accept the fact that it is meant to be tough, you just have to get stronger on all levels. Dairy or gluten or any other food has little to nothing to do with some fears or thoughts happening in your mind. Especially the gluten free trend is driving me.... crazy. So much people living in a scince fiction world where Gluten is the new Lord Voldemore....
Telling this to people who have legitimate anxiety disorders is the wrong thing to do.
But yeah...ice cream actually helps my anxiety. I would never give it up. Plus cheese.11 -
Havanaohlala wrote: »And... people. Stop confusing mental weakness and mental problems with some food intolerances. Anxiety? Everybody has it. Just focus on your life and accept the fact that it is meant to be tough, you just have to get stronger on all levels. Dairy or gluten or any other food has little to nothing to do with some fears or thoughts happening in your mind. Especially the gluten free trend is driving me.... crazy. So much people living in a scince fiction world where Gluten is the new Lord Voldemore....
This post is so ridiculous. smh11 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Havanaohlala wrote: »And... people. Stop confusing mental weakness and mental problems with some food intolerances. Anxiety? Everybody has it. Just focus on your life and accept the fact that it is meant to be tough, you just have to get stronger on all levels. Dairy or gluten or any other food has little to nothing to do with some fears or thoughts happening in your mind. Especially the gluten free trend is driving me.... crazy. So much people living in a scince fiction world where Gluten is the new Lord Voldemore....
This post is so ridiculous. smh
i cant afford another warning, so i cant respond to this as i'd like... :grumble:8 -
What are you so mad about? It is just my opinion.:D Food has nothing to do with mental problems. Anxiety may really exist as a medical issue but there is also just a confusion someone has anxiety that is much more common. It has become the new gluten free or vegan or *insert* a ridiculous fad idea/ excuse for (not) improving your life.
"Gluten caused my anxiety" "Dairy caused my anxiety" -This is what I call ridiculous.15 -
Havanaohlala wrote: »What are you so mad about? It is just my opinion.:D Food has nothing to do with mental problems. Anxiety may really exist as a medical issue but there is also just a confusion someone has anxiety that is much more common. It has become the new gluten free or vegan or *insert* a ridiculous fad idea for improving your life."Gluten cause my anxiety" "Dairy cause my anxiety" -This is what I call ridiculous.
Who said that?11 -
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I have heard one individual say milk is a cow growth hormone so why would you want to drink it. Good point he had if you ask me.15
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I do trivialize maybe, yes. It is just what comes to my mind when somwone begins to complain about some mostly self diagnosed anxiety. My opinion and if you dont like it be happy that you are more supportive than me. You can now feel good about yourself.
I cited the most common expressions I here from such people. I cited that because it comes so often in combination with some food intolerance that I have began to not believe there is anxiety at all. There is of course some percentage with real medical mental problems but they dont ask their gastroenterologist what food should they stop eating. They go to a psychiatric clinic or to a psychologist. It is ridiculous for me to say gluten free cured a mental state. The most logical explanation would be the person never had that mental issue, they just felt better about tjeirselves starting a more disciplined way of life like .... gluten free. Anyways...
Peace.17 -
its all cool. i think havanaolala just hates gluten free peeps. hahaha. seriously its all good.
for me, Anxiety is rough as i was able to turn it off and enjoy life. Then it resurfaced ten fold and it was hard to remove again. Trust me, its not simple to turn on and off.
my original question was only out of curiosity.0
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