Just ate a whole bar of chocolate
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TavistockToad wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »I have to know, how many calories are in the chocolate? And how many calories are in your tea?
Also, now I want some tea.
I would assume OP means "tea" in the regional British and Irish sense of "evening meal", not just a particularly lardy cuppa.
OP, the thing about eating tea, even if it puts you over your goal, is this: the mistake is already made. Skipping tea will not undo the mistake, it will just make another mistake of disrupting your normal eating schedule and making yourself sad and hungry and, deep down, resentful. You have to accept the mistake and move on.
A takeaway is fine, just do some research in advance, choose something not too calorific, don't eat the whole portion (put half on a plate and half in the fridge for tomorrow) and don't go mad on the side dishes. There's a world of difference between a half portion of chicken cashew nut with a half portion of fried rice and 5 prawn crackers, versus the Hungry Dragon Lard-Bottom Sharing Banquet for 5.
We all have days where the wheels come off, you just need to not lose your head and keep trying. You'll get there in the end.
Lmao. You are right. I had to look it up. Having been to England numerous times, and having enjoyed high tea in England, Hong Kong, and here locally, I’ve never heard of it referred to as dinner. But apparently along the working class in certain areas, that’s the slang. Probably not useful on this mostly US board, but whatever.
I did start craving tea though. Op, thanks. I enjoyed my darjeeling tea with cream this afternoon thanks to you.
So if you're English and say 'tea' to refer to a meal time you're working class...
:huh: :noway:
Wasn’t my words. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Wikipedia.
And for everyone getting their panties in a bunch... I know everyone here is not from the US. But the majority are. And I’ve never heard of tea used to denote supper. So geez, excuse me. I thought she was either referring to high tea or simply regular tea. Or even sweet tea. I didn’t know.
Oh, and yes I like milk in my darjeeling tea. Always have and always will. Too kitten bad!!!!
I'm from the US and have heard it many times. In books, movies, etc.
I had not. I did find it interesting to learn. I honestly was not trying to offend the original poster. And I’m sorry op if I did.
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Yes iam stressing i know I can keep the weight off once it's off as I know where I went wrong the last time I just have no bloody will power I was talking to a friend the other day saying how this chocolate says a serving size is 2 squares and who eats 2 squares and puts it back she was like I do that I wish I could do that or she was saying how she couldn't finish her tinned rice pudding she ate half last time and was still hungry but couldn't eat a whole tin why the f*** am I so greedy like I could easily eat a whole pizza but she can only eat half a one and she is around the same height & weight as me
Totally relate to how you feel. I have the same challenge when it comes to my friends who eat healthier, other times I am that person with two squares. I work as a cashier in a grocery store in the evenings. After 7:30 pm a third of my shoppers are buying junk food. While they range in all sizes, many more appear to be in the more reasonable size. I am jealous. How do they do it? My biggest challenge was not the type of food (don't get me wrong I was not an angel), but food portions. I see these people on a regular basis buying this stuff. It frustrates me that they can appear to get away with it, while I diligently log in that banana I ate late last night, noting that I went over my daily limit.
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rockyhi512 wrote: »Yes iam stressing i know I can keep the weight off once it's off as I know where I went wrong the last time I just have no bloody will power I was talking to a friend the other day saying how this chocolate says a serving size is 2 squares and who eats 2 squares and puts it back she was like I do that I wish I could do that or she was saying how she couldn't finish her tinned rice pudding she ate half last time and was still hungry but couldn't eat a whole tin why the f*** am I so greedy like I could easily eat a whole pizza but she can only eat half a one and she is around the same height & weight as me
Totally relate to how you feel. I have the same challenge when it comes to my friends who eat healthier, other times I am that person with two squares. I work as a cashier in a grocery store in the evenings. After 7:30 pm a third of my shoppers are buying junk food. While they range in all sizes, many more appear to be in the more reasonable size. I am jealous. How do they do it? My biggest challenge was not the type of food (don't get me wrong I was not an angel), but food portions. I see these people on a regular basis buying this stuff. It frustrates me that they can appear to get away with it, while I diligently log in that banana I ate late last night, noting that I went over my daily limit.
They do it because like you, they are not overeating. They aren't unicorns, it's just their food intake matches their energy needs. They might be more active than you. They might eat very lightly during the day for those snacks. They may only have a few bites. The point being, they're not special, they don't have some super duper metabolism and they may even be tracking every single morself like you are.9 -
TavistockToad wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »I have to know, how many calories are in the chocolate? And how many calories are in your tea?
Also, now I want some tea.
I would assume OP means "tea" in the regional British and Irish sense of "evening meal", not just a particularly lardy cuppa.
OP, the thing about eating tea, even if it puts you over your goal, is this: the mistake is already made. Skipping tea will not undo the mistake, it will just make another mistake of disrupting your normal eating schedule and making yourself sad and hungry and, deep down, resentful. You have to accept the mistake and move on.
A takeaway is fine, just do some research in advance, choose something not too calorific, don't eat the whole portion (put half on a plate and half in the fridge for tomorrow) and don't go mad on the side dishes. There's a world of difference between a half portion of chicken cashew nut with a half portion of fried rice and 5 prawn crackers, versus the Hungry Dragon Lard-Bottom Sharing Banquet for 5.
We all have days where the wheels come off, you just need to not lose your head and keep trying. You'll get there in the end.
Lmao. You are right. I had to look it up. Having been to England numerous times, and having enjoyed high tea in England, Hong Kong, and here locally, I’ve never heard of it referred to as dinner. But apparently along the working class in certain areas, that’s the slang. Probably not useful on this mostly US board, but whatever.
I did start craving tea though. Op, thanks. I enjoyed my darjeeling tea with cream this afternoon thanks to you.
So if you're English and say 'tea' to refer to a meal time you're working class...
:huh: :noway:
Wasn’t my words. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Wikipedia.
And for everyone getting their panties in a bunch... I know everyone here is not from the US. But the majority are. And I’ve never heard of tea used to denote supper. So geez, excuse me. I thought she was either referring to high tea or simply regular tea. Or even sweet tea. I didn’t know.
Oh, and yes I like milk in my darjeeling tea. Always have and always will. Too kitten bad!!!!
I'm from the US and have heard it many times. In books, movies, etc.
Me too.
And if you are used to using a particular colloquialism, you may not realize it won't be generally understood.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »I have to know, how many calories are in the chocolate? And how many calories are in your tea?
Also, now I want some tea.
I would assume OP means "tea" in the regional British and Irish sense of "evening meal", not just a particularly lardy cuppa.
OP, the thing about eating tea, even if it puts you over your goal, is this: the mistake is already made. Skipping tea will not undo the mistake, it will just make another mistake of disrupting your normal eating schedule and making yourself sad and hungry and, deep down, resentful. You have to accept the mistake and move on.
A takeaway is fine, just do some research in advance, choose something not too calorific, don't eat the whole portion (put half on a plate and half in the fridge for tomorrow) and don't go mad on the side dishes. There's a world of difference between a half portion of chicken cashew nut with a half portion of fried rice and 5 prawn crackers, versus the Hungry Dragon Lard-Bottom Sharing Banquet for 5.
We all have days where the wheels come off, you just need to not lose your head and keep trying. You'll get there in the end.
Lmao. You are right. I had to look it up. Having been to England numerous times, and having enjoyed high tea in England, Hong Kong, and here locally, I’ve never heard of it referred to as dinner. But apparently along the working class in certain areas, that’s the slang. Probably not useful on this mostly US board, but whatever.
I did start craving tea though. Op, thanks. I enjoyed my darjeeling tea with cream this afternoon thanks to you.
So if you're English and say 'tea' to refer to a meal time you're working class...
:huh: :noway:
Wasn’t my words. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Wikipedia.
And for everyone getting their panties in a bunch... I know everyone here is not from the US. But the majority are. And I’ve never heard of tea used to denote supper. So geez, excuse me. I thought she was either referring to high tea or simply regular tea. Or even sweet tea. I didn’t know.
Oh, and yes I like milk in my darjeeling tea. Always have and always will. Too kitten bad!!!!
I'm from the US and have heard it many times. In books, movies, etc.
Me too.
And if you are used to using a particular colloquialism, you may not realize it won't be generally understood.
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I'm in the breakfast > lunch > dinner camp. And to be fair, those Oreo chocolate bars are made by the devil, they're just so damn good.3
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When I screw up and over eat, or drink to much beer, I just try to counteract it. On YouTube go do a 15 minute Walk Away the Pounds video. It’s easy and helps burn that candy bar to balance things out!1
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VintageFeline wrote: »I guess technically it is true but it's actually more about being regional. Some would call it supper in some areas. Dinner could refer to lunch in others. Britain has a very diverse range of local dialects.
Yeah, I grew up fairly working class (or "low middle class" at a push) in SE England. We had breakfast, dinner and tea, and sometimes "supper" was a late-evening snack. I knew of "high tea" as an afternoon snack of tea (the beverage) and little sandwiches and cakes, generally taken in posh hotels or by the children of high-class families. I was a teenager before I learned that some people called my dinner "lunch", and that my tea could be either "dinner" or "supper".
These days, and prompted in part by my emigration to Canada, I use "lunch" for the midday meal. The evening meal tends to be "supper" if eaten at home or a friend's house, since that's what most of the people I know in this part of Canada call it, and "dinner" if going out to eat at a restaurant, since that sounds more fancy!
My husband will sometimes still ask "what's for tea?", meaning what are we having for the evening meal, but we don't tend to use the word for anything other than the hot beverage outside our family because we know other people won't get what we mean.
Also, cream in tea is yuck. I know several people who drink it that way, and I did try it, but it's awful to me! I'd rather drink my tea black if there's no milk.
Back on topic, though - OP, you've been given a lot of good advice here, so please try to take it. It sounds to me like you should set your activity level as "lightly active" and aim for 1/2lb per week as a rate of loss. Add in a conservative estimate of calories burned for your additional purposeful exercise (going to the gym etc., not walking to/from school), and eat back at least half of those additional calories. Monitor your weight for at least 4-6 weeks before panicking that it's not working, and adjust your calorie allowance up or down a little after that time if you're losing more or less than expected.
Please understand that you most likely will not lose at a consistent rate from week to week, so monitoring the trend over time is very important. Also, take photos and measurements regularly for comparison. Sometimes the camera or the tape will show us what the scale doesn't.
Try to have patience, and try to understand that no one is perfect. We're all human, and we all slip up now and again. You'll be okay.3 -
VintageFeline wrote: »I may, or may not, have had a large chocolate bar for dinner on more than one occasion, whilst still losing weight.
#sorrynotsorry
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TavistockToad wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »I have to know, how many calories are in the chocolate? And how many calories are in your tea?
Also, now I want some tea.
I would assume OP means "tea" in the regional British and Irish sense of "evening meal", not just a particularly lardy cuppa.
OP, the thing about eating tea, even if it puts you over your goal, is this: the mistake is already made. Skipping tea will not undo the mistake, it will just make another mistake of disrupting your normal eating schedule and making yourself sad and hungry and, deep down, resentful. You have to accept the mistake and move on.
A takeaway is fine, just do some research in advance, choose something not too calorific, don't eat the whole portion (put half on a plate and half in the fridge for tomorrow) and don't go mad on the side dishes. There's a world of difference between a half portion of chicken cashew nut with a half portion of fried rice and 5 prawn crackers, versus the Hungry Dragon Lard-Bottom Sharing Banquet for 5.
We all have days where the wheels come off, you just need to not lose your head and keep trying. You'll get there in the end.
Lmao. You are right. I had to look it up. Having been to England numerous times, and having enjoyed high tea in England, Hong Kong, and here locally, I’ve never heard of it referred to as dinner. But apparently along the working class in certain areas, that’s the slang. Probably not useful on this mostly US board, but whatever.
I did start craving tea though. Op, thanks. I enjoyed my darjeeling tea with cream this afternoon thanks to you.
So if you're English and say 'tea' to refer to a meal time you're working class...
:huh: :noway:
Yep, it's the same here in Australia, us Ruffians call dinner "tea", and the uppercrusts call it dinner. I use dinner on here because it's a US site, and most everyone knows what it means.1 -
What is TDEE?2
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mortuseon_ wrote: »
And exercise is included in the number too, as an average across the week.
MFP uses the NEAT method where purposeful exercise is added on top of the calories it sets you.0 -
Yes iam stressing i know I can keep the weight off once it's off as I know where I went wrong the last time I just have no bloody will power I was talking to a friend the other day saying how this chocolate says a serving size is 2 squares and who eats 2 squares and puts it back she was like I do that I wish I could do that or she was saying how she couldn't finish her tinned rice pudding she ate half last time and was still hungry but couldn't eat a whole tin why the f*** am I so greedy like I could easily eat a whole pizza but she can only eat half a one and she is around the same height & weight as me
I have recently learned that I am an "all or nothing" person when it comes to food. I cant allow myself any treats or things because I can't stop at just one serving. I either eat a whole large pizza or none at all, etc. Sucks but just how some of us are wired.4 -
OP is calculating a tdee with a sedentary multiplier of 1.2 which is suitable for someone who moves enough to provide self care (bathroom, couch, back).
Then hitting that with an aggressive goal.
Here is the thing OP.
You are overweight; not obese. Your health absent comorbidities is in the ALERT and NOT non the danger zone.
You have two options here. You can try to continue as you're doing now. From the sounds of it you're going to last weeks continuing to white knuckle things. You're certainly not going to last the months it will take to get to where you need to be.
I don't give a rat's **kitten** what your friend told you about eating half a pudding. Not only that, but I would also call mean girl competitive BS on that with her showing off that she can "diet" better than you. You girls are weird that way: at least us guys compete about how much MORE we can eat!
OK. So. Stop comparing. And stop trying to do this in one day. Cause it ain't happening.
Your activity level is Ill selected if you're not eating all exercise calories on top. Other than your walk to school do you do anything else during the day? Are you able to throw another walk in there during lunch hour? Why are your weight sessions not too strenuous? Lack of energy due to not eating enough? I mean why bother going all the way to the gym and not giving it your all while there? You may want to look into a structured program and cut down on the times per week (from 5 to 2 or 3 since you will be in a bit of pain) and go for a walk on the treadmill during the "rest" days... Instant activity increase.
Between your birthday and all this happening switch to maintenance for the next week and at the end of the week take a deep breath and cut no more than 20% of off your tdee. In your case there is no way that based on your fat level and activity level that you can reliably support even a lb a week target. So that's your outside high rate.
Then look at your day and at your normal eating as you log it and make some decisions as to what you can or cannot eat and how much.
You keep talking about take-away so I assume you're at work most of the day. Maybe with your husband's help you can meal prep on the weekend for two or three days of the week reducing some of the take aways. Maybe you can choose different items at the take away.
You say that you know what went wrong with maintenance. Do you? If you're ready to maintain right now, why are you so scared (in your birthday thread) to spend a week at maintenance?
If you *know* how to maintain, all you have to do to lose weight is cut 250 Cal a day.
That is a lunch time walk and a couple of smarter choices for a year and ~25lbs.
You don't *have* to make it difficult.
And even if you don't know how to maintain (which I strongly suspect is the case), going at it slowly and developing new ways of eating and moving are key to getting anywhere.
Look: takeway will be there for the next 20 years. If your family is in the habit of eating it every day you WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT how to deal with this on an ongoing basis.
I go to McDonald's several times a day. You read it right. McDonald's, Tim Horton's, Wendy's and Starbucks. There's even days with all four. It doesn't mean I eat anything and everything there, right?
So deep breath. Stop flailing around and despairing. Slow down. Be a duck with failure and focus on your next appropriate action.
Punishing your failure or making things too hard by skipping tea because you had a chocolate is not correct. Evaluating whether you can legitimately have a slightly lighter tea because you're not as hungry after eating that chocolate IS correct. And if you ARE truly that hungry after eating it (and not just seeking hedonistic pleasure from continuing to eat) then your deficit is counterproductively high.
Evaluate your weight using a trending weight application and a trend that extends 4 to 6 weeks as hormonal water weight fluctuations could make seeing your progress quite difficult when focused on day to day weigh ins.
Take care, and I hope you have a nice and stress free birthday!
Lots of info to reply to here so first I don't work I follow a 30day calendar every month for workouts I can hold a convo through it if needs be everyday is different depending on what is scedueled I walk 3miles everyday I don't work I cook healthy meals for the family I don't keep talking about takeaway only with my birthday coming up and my partner mentioning it tonight as we have been out for the day and not had time to cook I was worried about switching to maintenance as I haven't reached goal weight yet I went wrong last time by just eating everything and not tracking at all letting one bad day derail me into a bad month bad months now iam tracking even the "bad" stuff which I never did before
Instead of rushing to “answer” this thoughtful post full of advice and great ideas, maybe spend some time reading through it and deciding what tactics to try out??6 -
Christine_72 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »I have to know, how many calories are in the chocolate? And how many calories are in your tea?
Also, now I want some tea.
I would assume OP means "tea" in the regional British and Irish sense of "evening meal", not just a particularly lardy cuppa.
OP, the thing about eating tea, even if it puts you over your goal, is this: the mistake is already made. Skipping tea will not undo the mistake, it will just make another mistake of disrupting your normal eating schedule and making yourself sad and hungry and, deep down, resentful. You have to accept the mistake and move on.
A takeaway is fine, just do some research in advance, choose something not too calorific, don't eat the whole portion (put half on a plate and half in the fridge for tomorrow) and don't go mad on the side dishes. There's a world of difference between a half portion of chicken cashew nut with a half portion of fried rice and 5 prawn crackers, versus the Hungry Dragon Lard-Bottom Sharing Banquet for 5.
We all have days where the wheels come off, you just need to not lose your head and keep trying. You'll get there in the end.
Lmao. You are right. I had to look it up. Having been to England numerous times, and having enjoyed high tea in England, Hong Kong, and here locally, I’ve never heard of it referred to as dinner. But apparently along the working class in certain areas, that’s the slang. Probably not useful on this mostly US board, but whatever.
I did start craving tea though. Op, thanks. I enjoyed my darjeeling tea with cream this afternoon thanks to you.
So if you're English and say 'tea' to refer to a meal time you're working class...
:huh: :noway:
Yep, it's the same here in Australia, us Ruffians call dinner "tea", and the uppercrusts call it dinner. I use dinner on here because it's a US site, and most everyone knows what it means.
I use them interchangably, and don't even notice I do it. It would never occur to me to define it when using it - in fact I'd actually feel I was being patronising if I did so.1 -
Had my takeaway for tea peri peri chicken & wings with cheesey chips then had a f*** it day yesterday had a look through my diary at what I was doing the last time I was losing and what my calories were set at so I've set them to 1600 which is what I was averaging at and have decided to go on a longer walk in the mornings after school run with the dogs done over 7000 steps so far today and I will continue with following my workout calendar thanks for all the advice/support and I wasn't offended by people not understanding "tea" I know not all people say breakfast, dinner and tea just force of habit to write that
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Woops my f*** it day added upto over 8k calories + the 4k on Saturday got some serious making up to do now doh!3
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Op, have you considered maybe seeing a registered dietician ?0
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Lesscookies1 wrote: »Op, have you considered maybe seeing a registered dietician ?
Maybe if I had money to burn but I don't I had my gym instructor who is also a dietitian take a look through my diary pre binge and she said it looked fine I know where I'm going wrong but getting out is hard to do2
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