March 2018 Running Challenge
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This morning when I was doing yoga my hamstrings seemed to be particularly tight. All day I have felt like I have a huge knot in my left hamstring. I hate, hate, hate skipping critical workouts, but I am thinking that I might be wise to ditch the speed work tonight in favor of a slow, easy run. I know that I probably CAN do it, but should I???0
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lporter229 wrote: »@PastorVincent -Unless you have a very recent race that you ran all out, I don't think that you can use race results as an adequate predictor because it seems like you have been training a ton and have probably made huge gains. Didn't you say you have a HM coming up that you would like to race hard? Assuming no unforeseen race day issues, that will probably give you a better prediction of how you can expect to perform in your marathon.
One thing I like about these tables, and how they use HR data, is that I could use training runs to fine tune the numbers. Say I had a good, long easy run that felt really good, and seemed to be representative of my fitness at that point (I wasn't sick, or tired, and it wasn't too hot, or too cold to affect my pace). Then adjust the input race time until I get the pace for my long run to match up with the HR I got on that run. Now I look over to the right for my predicted race time and the distance in question.
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Mar 6: 3.1 mi on road
Crazy wind today! Weather was sunny and temperature perfect but the wind would blow you flat over. Yesterday was legs day at the gym, new PR squatting 185, and partly as a result today's 5k time was nothing special. Got it done, nice negative splits.
Trails are underwater at the second park we run at. So now both places where we run trails are underwater. Not sure what I'm going to do next long run day - my legs really appreciate the break from asphalt so I would prefer to run on dirt. I need to scout out some other places to run.4 -
lporter229 wrote: »@PastorVincent -Unless you have a very recent race that you ran all out, I don't think that you can use race results as an adequate predictor because it seems like you have been training a ton and have probably made huge gains. Didn't you say you have a HM coming up that you would like to race hard? Assuming no unforeseen race day issues, that will probably give you a better prediction of how you can expect to perform in your marathon.
One thing I like about these tables, and how they use HR data, is that I could use training runs to fine tune the numbers. Say I had a good, long easy run that felt really good, and seemed to be representative of my fitness at that point (I wasn't sick, or tired, and it wasn't too hot, or too cold to affect my pace). Then adjust the input race time until I get the pace for my long run to match up with the HR I got on that run. Now I look over to the right for my predicted race time and the distance in question.
Exactly. I did a lot of playing around with them like this too. It gave me a pretty close prediction for where my race ended up. I thought the estimate was very aggressive so I decided to go out at my goal pace and make up any time at the end if I had anything left in the tank. It turns out that I had just about enough left to get me to where the predictor said I would be.3 -
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lporter229 wrote: »So much nerd candy in those Daniels' Tables. When I was training for (read "obsessed with") my marathon PR, I was addicted to those tables and I found them to be surprisingly accurate based on HR and LT data.
@PastorVincent -Unless you have a very recent race that you ran all out, I don't think that you can use race results as an adequate predictor because it seems like you have been training a ton and have probably made huge gains. Didn't you say you have a HM coming up that you would like to race hard? Assuming no unforeseen race day issues, that will probably give you a better prediction of how you can expect to perform in your marathon.
Yes, a week from Saturday I have a half that I plan to try for sub-1:50, but rumor is that it has nasty hills so that could kill all things. Hill do not scare me (just look a the elevations i regularly hit in Strava) but they will cost time.
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lporter229 wrote: »lporter229 wrote: »@PastorVincent -Unless you have a very recent race that you ran all out, I don't think that you can use race results as an adequate predictor because it seems like you have been training a ton and have probably made huge gains. Didn't you say you have a HM coming up that you would like to race hard? Assuming no unforeseen race day issues, that will probably give you a better prediction of how you can expect to perform in your marathon.
One thing I like about these tables, and how they use HR data, is that I could use training runs to fine tune the numbers. Say I had a good, long easy run that felt really good, and seemed to be representative of my fitness at that point (I wasn't sick, or tired, and it wasn't too hot, or too cold to affect my pace). Then adjust the input race time until I get the pace for my long run to match up with the HR I got on that run. Now I look over to the right for my predicted race time and the distance in question.
Exactly. I did a lot of playing around with them like this too. It gave me a pretty close prediction for where my race ended up. I thought the estimate was very aggressive so I decided to go out at my goal pace and make up any time at the end if I had anything left in the tank. It turns out that I had just about enough left to get me to where the predictor said I would be.
As for that table. Not sure how to use it yet, but I filled in the numbers in the little chart in the upper left (age, height, etc) and then added a 13.1 training run for the distance and time spots. Left everything else alone and it predicts a 3:57:41 Marathon.
I need find a couple hours to sit down with the directions and figure it out.2 -
@TattooedDolphinGirl78 Regarding shin splints. Everything I've come across says too much too fast. Maybe add more walking in lieu of running?
ETA How are your running surfaces? Cambored any? Stick to flat and don't run the track same way repeatedly.
Shin splints are horrible. I just find the knot that developed, apply a bit of pressure with two fingers and flex/extend the foot several time. It works the knot out. (Mines always medial, the inside of shin bone.) I think patience wins this injury. Who freekin has time for that, right?
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Something y'all probably already know. ...
I watched Icarus on Netflix last night. It's been know for decades that the Russians cheated/doped in the Olympics. I was surprised that it all finally came out in such detail (I don't watch news). Sad story really, the way it was putin people harm's way.
Good watch if anyone has the time.
Thanks! Been getting the same advice from friends, the interwebs and co-workers. I just didn't think I would be back to this phase.
I want to see Icarus, especially now that the Olympics have just gone by.1 -
Poured down rain most of the day but stopped in time for my evening run. Pushing to be consistent so I can kick my first marathon in the butt in September!
3/1: 2.5
3/3: 3
3/4: 4
3/6: 3
12.5/50 miles for March
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03/01/18 - Rest
03/02/18 - 8 miles @ 8:51
03/03/18 - 9 miles @ 9:29
03/04/18 - Meetings instead of running
03/05/18 - 11 miles @ 9:11
03/06/18 - 11 miles @ 8:59
Big Hairy Audacious Goal: Sub 4 hours in Pittsburgh 2018!
Official Marathon PR: 4:11:28
Next Races (more as I find them):
03/17/18 - Shamrock Shuffle Half Marathon + 5k + 1mile
04/07/18 - Achilles 9.3 Challange (10k and 5k back to back)
05/06/18 - Pittsburgh Marathon - aiming for sub four hours.
05/12/18 - Glacier Ridge 50k Trail Ultra (I must hate myself)
2020 - Disney World Dopey! (if can raise funds)
11 easy miles. I need to find time soon for a 20+ mile run. There are only 8 weeks left until my marathon!6 -
3/1-2.5 miles
3/2-3.5 miles + P90X3 CVX
3/3-6.25 miles
3/4-3 miles + P90X3 agility X
3/5-Rest Day
3/6-5 miles + P90X shoulders and arms & ab ripper X
20.25/65 miles
Upcoming races:
May 12- Montana Women's run 5 miles
July 17-Missoula Marathon
September 16- Montana half Marathon
unplanned Day off today, neither of my baby sitters could baby sit, so took advantage and got a lot of working out in. Im amazed how much I was able to do considering i got less than 4 hours of sleep last night5 -
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
03/01/18 :::: 2.6 :::: 2.6
03/02/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 2.6
03/03/18 :::: 5.0 :::: 7.6
03/04/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 7.6
03/05/18 :::: 3.9 :::: 11.5
03/06/18 :::: 3.1 :::: 14.6
Treadmill today, slow and easy just to get the sore muscles moving a little. Continue to be sore after yesterday's circuit training and running interval workout. Probably not my best idea to do both in one day.5 -
3/1 - 7.4km
3/2 - rest
3/3 - sick / snow day
3/4 - 10.0km
3/5 - rest
3/6 - 8.0km
25.4/115km
Today's run went the way I wish Sunday's could have gone. My average pace Sunday was 9:35/km and today it was 7:47/km with a negative split - I felt a bit stiff and tight in the calves for the first 2-3km and then loosened up as I went. It was about -6C when I set out with almost no wind and aside from having to adjust my buff and gloves occasionally depending on whether I was facing the sun or not, I had perfect clothes for the weather. The sun was up the whole time, so no trying to see in fading twilight because I forgot my headlamp. And the path was not icy. Snow covered in spots but no issues with traction, and not a lot of slush or mud either. All in all a great run.
Anyway, feeling a lot better about myself tonight than I did on Sunday, that's for sure.
Upcoming Races:
1/1/18 Resolution Run 5K ~38:00 (no official times)
3/4/18 MEC Road Race #1 10K 1:30:57
3/17/28 St Patrick's Day race 10K
4/7/18 Jasper Half Marathon
4/22/18 MEC Trail Race #1 5K
5/20/18 MEC Trail Race #2 10K
6/24/18 MEC Trail Race #3 15K
8/18/18 Edmonton Marathon 10K
9/2/18 MEC Trail Race #4 10K
10/7/18 MEC Trail Race #5 15K9 -
angmarie28 wrote: »@Elise4270 there is no chest strap with it, just my fitbit watch. I had a polar FT4 I think it was and it was like $50, but that was 6 years ago. My fitbit reads accurately with pretty much every workout except running, If I try and hold my arm fairly still, it reads better, but who runs with 1 stiff arm, haha
This guy, I suppose. I wonder how he tied his shoe laces?
From the picture- it kind of looks like he DIDNT tie his shoe laces, or at least didn’t tie the one very well.
I wonder if that's how he broke his arm to begin with.
Well now I just think his goal is a matching pair of casts.2 -
NikolaosKey wrote: »@garygse Hope for fast recovery mate!
Thanks man! I took a rest day today and the pain has subsided a lot, so I should be able to get back on things tomorrow with an easy run. One of the group members has an Achilles issue and says she's super slow right now, so I'll have some good company if she's running tomorrow.
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@PastorVincent I have faith that you will get that sub-four...dunno why, but I just feel you have it in you.3
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March Running Totals (miles)
3/1 – 5.57 easy
3/2 – rest day
3/3 – 16.09 paced run
3/4 – 7.22 easy with hills
3/5 – rest day
3/6 – 6.21 easy with fast finish
March running total to date – 35.09
Nominal challenge goal: 180 miles
Real goals: Build base. Work toward being able to run 26.2 miles by Patriots' Day.
Today's notes – Yesterday's mail had the cash back check from my Sam's MasterCard. The local Sam's Club closed in January, but I kept my membership pending getting this cash back check based on what I spent in 2017. This morning I drove 65 miles to the nearest Sam's Club to cash the check, cancel my membership, and get a refund. As a result, I was trapped in my car for over 2 hours of the best part of the morning. Put $250 plus some change into my wallet, so it was worth doing, but still . . . got home at noon with barely over 2000 steps for the day.
So I got out to run about 3, planning to run six miles easy. The first kilometer or so was on plan, then I hit a traffic light at the exit to an industrial park. Normally, I run past this intersection when there isn't much traffic, and it's not an issue. Today I seem to have got there near a shift change. The light turned against me, and there were cars waiting to turn and go straight from both sides. I set out to run behind the cars on my side, with the thought that the cars going straight from the other side would be past by the time I got to their lane; but the lead driver saw me and stopped in the middle of the intersection. So, split second decision; I sprinted across the intersection to be polite and let the traffic flow as smoothly as possible.
Well. The other side was the start of a long gradual decline, and after a 1000m warmup ending with a modest incline, I warmed up my system with a short sprint. I backed off the pace when I cleared the intersection, but had a tough time getting myself to slow down to a true easy pace for the rest of the run. I did hit another light favorable, that let me cross the next major street and run some pleasant residential streets; but most of the time my pace was in no man's land between easy and MP.
Ticked over 6 miles not far from my driveway and felt pretty good. Turned it up to threshold level effort till the last fire hydrant, then kicked it up to simulated finish line sprint. Ended up with 10K worth of running, and felt much better for having got some real exercise after spending most of the morning driving.
2018 races:
February 17, 2018 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) finished in 54:48
February 24, 2018 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) finished in 28:46
March 17, 2018 USATF Masters 8K (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA)
March 24, 2018 Spring Forward 15K (Mendon, NY)
April 16, 2018 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA)
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0305-5.5k Total-10.5k Goal-80k
Weather's been awful, only the second run of the month! The skies cleared up a bit late last night but by then I didn't really want to venture too far, and ended up running loops around the block. Well, a short run is infinitely better than no run at all.
Stumbled on a copy of a book called "Running on Air" in the bookstore yesterday, skimmed through it and got the gist of it pretty quick. I found the idea of using levels of breathing like gears on a car quite interesting and tried it out last night (mostly to alleviate the boredom). I dunno if it's just me, but I found the pattern of breathing in two steps and out one step quite impossible to use. Could only do it for a few hundred meters before the breathlessness of the whole thing got to me and I'd switch back to 2:2. Maybe has something to do with having a higher cadence.
Anyone heard of the book or its methodologies and tried it out? Am I doing something wrong?
Other note to self: need some new shoes.
Upcoming races:
03.18 HM Chengdu3 -
Guess whose back...back again...Jessica is back, and she's terrible at juggling multiple social media accounts while training
Just read through the 20 pages I was behind (y'all...). Welcome to all the new people and welcome back to @NikolaosKey and @RespectTheKitty !
Sorry you were poorly at your race @sarahthes - kind of love that your doctor is my people though
. Wise words about being mindful of March conditions @juliet3455 , something I am trying to be mindful of for JaJa. And re: your question about Salming and brick and mortar retailers, there are currently no physical stores carrying Salming gear in AB. If you wear about a men's size 10.5 you could always play with mine some time haha! @PastorVincent get out of your own head my dude, you know you can run the pace so just do it. Getting caught up in the metrics is a trap imo- believe in yourself!
I have just been bopping around, doing a lot of speedwork and trying to tune my *kitten* in for the season. Hired a new sports RMT to work on my legs who is thus far a warlock of some sort. Filling out the paperwork for the training service I have FINALLY settled on- I am giving up some control in the process which is yikes for me, but I know I need the help if I want to take some women's gold this season for the sponsors. JaJa is in three weeks and I'm just hoping the conditions are better than they were at the Frozen 50.
March 1- Off
March 2 Off
March 3- 30
March 4 - Off
March 5 -18
March 6- 15
63/400
912/6000
2018 Races
*Gord's Frozen A** 50K, February 19 7:08:00, 1st place Women's Open
*JAJA Trail Marathon, April 1
*Red Deer Marathon, May 20
*Lone Wolf Last Man Standing Race, June 17
*Eddie's Half Marathon, June 24
*Lost Souls 100 Miler, September 7
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March goal: March
3/1 3.41
3/2 3.68
3/3 3.12
3/4 rest
3/5 6.50
3/6 3.23
Total 19.94
Ticker is my goal for 2018 and progress to date:
Upcoming races:
Big Island International Marathon (only doing the 5k) 3/18/18
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March goal: 96 miles
3/1: 5 miles
3/4: 9 miles
3/6: 4.1 miles
18.1/96 miles completed
I got a nice 4.1 mile run in today. The temperature was good but it was windy.
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Really wasn’t feeling it today hence the crappy pace but I did it. Vacation begins tomorrow. I’ll probably be using the hotel treadmill until next Monday. It’ll be my first time using a treadmill so I’ll get to see how different it is.
2.22 - 12.02/62
Upcoming races:
Orphan Run 4 Hope 5K - April 14
Spartan Sprint - December 9
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March goal: 60 miles
3/1/2018 5 mi
3/2/2018 rest
3/3/2018 6 mi
3/4/2018 snowboarding w/kids
3/5/2018 xtrain rowing machine
3/6/2018 3.1 mi (PR, 9:52 pace—first time under 10 min...)
March total: 14.1 mi
Upcoming races:
4/29/2018 5K Top Pot Donut Dash
7/8/2018 See Jane Run! HM?
8/12/2018 Lake Union 10K
Quick post-work run tonight—and my fastest 5K pace so far, so that was fun! But I need to focus on the slow & easy runs, I know.8 -
03/05
Ok! I'm in!
I've started the c25k a few times but always fail at week 5! I'm currently on week 4 so should have a 5 km completed by the end of the month.
A local park does timed 5k every day so my goal for march will be 50km and to do a timed 5km on 30th march! ❤️
03/06
No run as husband was late home from work...
03/07
Nice early 6am wake up! Have to fit my running in early before husband goes to work, can't do evenings as I've got a thesis to be writing to get my masters!
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PastorVincent wrote: »lporter229 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »*insert frownie face*
Playing with Marathon Pace Predictors... according to all of them I am still to fat and slow to have a good shot at breaking 4 hours. Grrr.
What kind of predictors are you using??? You are totally going to CRUSH that goal.
These are some I tried:
https://www.runnersworld.com/tools/race-time-predictor
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/marathon-calculator/
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2014/10/running_calculator_introducing_slate_s_marathon_time_predictor_a_better.html
Thing is I need figure out what pace to START the race so was hoping a predictor would help. Instead, it just made me all frownie.
Wow, those were really accurate for me. I used September's HM and a 10k from a few weeks ago, and it was all within a few minutes of my actual January marathon time. Calculators I've used previously were predicting times that were way too fast.3 -
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Hi All,
Jumping in a bit late!
I am trying to get myself back to running after completing a Marathon in 2015 and pretty much sitting down since then! i also have gained about 20lbs which needs losing.
I am supplementing running with some yoga, gym sessions and walks so my running goal is 25 miles for this month.
Completed so far: 2.2m9 -
polskagirl01 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »lporter229 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »*insert frownie face*
Playing with Marathon Pace Predictors... according to all of them I am still to fat and slow to have a good shot at breaking 4 hours. Grrr.
What kind of predictors are you using??? You are totally going to CRUSH that goal.
These are some I tried:
https://www.runnersworld.com/tools/race-time-predictor
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/marathon-calculator/
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2014/10/running_calculator_introducing_slate_s_marathon_time_predictor_a_better.html
Thing is I need figure out what pace to START the race so was hoping a predictor would help. Instead, it just made me all frownie.
Wow, those were really accurate for me. I used September's HM and a 10k from a few weeks ago, and it was all within a few minutes of my actual January marathon time. Calculators I've used previously were predicting times that were way too fast.
That is not making me feel better! 0 -
0305-5.5k Total-10.5k Goal-80k
Weather's been awful, only the second run of the month! The skies cleared up a bit late last night but by then I didn't really want to venture too far, and ended up running loops around the block. Well, a short run is infinitely better than no run at all.
Stumbled on a copy of a book called "Running on Air" in the bookstore yesterday, skimmed through it and got the gist of it pretty quick. I found the idea of using levels of breathing like gears on a car quite interesting and tried it out last night (mostly to alleviate the boredom). I dunno if it's just me, but I found the pattern of breathing in two steps and out one step quite impossible to use. Could only do it for a few hundred meters before the breathlessness of the whole thing got to me and I'd switch back to 2:2. Maybe has something to do with having a higher cadence.
Anyone heard of the book or its methodologies and tried it out? Am I doing something wrong?
Other note to self: need some new shoes.
Upcoming races:
03.18 HM Chengdu
Not familiar with that book, but many decades ago when I was in High School and running track we talked about the 2:1 breathing pattern and others. Personally I have found that it is best to ignore your breathing and let your body regulate it. The only time I actually switch to manual breathing is for hard full out sprints, which is so rare that it might as well be never. IME and YMMV and all that
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