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janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »
Nooo I don’t lol, I try and stick to a whole foods diet mainly. Is the Doyle t diet an actual thing lol?
Soylent is a liquid diet meant to include 100% of everything our bodies need. I'm surprised you're a proponent of things your body doesn't need when it comes to food but not when it comes to drinks.
Sounds nice but our stomachs are built to break things down into liquid so it would suck to be drinking just liquid all the time and take that function away from our body’s
still a good idea though.
Someone built your stomach?
Yep
Well, the rest of us were not constructed in that manner so your advice wouldn't be relevant for us.
We don't have to worry about what we were "built" to do, we don't have to limit our behaviors in an attempt to conform with what we imagine the intentions our builder had for each particular part of our body (or maybe the person who built your stomach also left you a set of detailed instructions, I'm not sure what the situation is exactly).
Your confusing, my main point I’m making is that water is good to drink and probably the most optimal thing for our body’s. Why you gotta go confuse everything and make such a big deal out of it.
I'm sorry that I'm confusing you. Yes, water is good to drink. It doesn't follow that other things are therefore bad to drink, especially when those things are also mostly water.9 -
I am such a radical. I drink diet soda, artificially sweetened tea AND water.
I know. It's crazy.
You know what else? I don't consume any caffeine, so that's a weird argument about drinks that aren't water I don't completely understand.8 -
As I said water is the liquid our body NEEDS, everything else is just preference
This is a ridiculous, reductionist line of reasoning which makes no sense to me from the get-go.
There are many, many things in our lives that we don't NEED - but they make our lives more enjoyable and convenient. I mean, I don't NEED a nice, juicy ribeye steak - I suppose I could go hunt and kill a steer with my bare hands and kneel on the ground next to it to gnaw on the raw meat (because we don't NEED fire to survive either). But nah - I'd rather drive to the grocery store (in a car I don't NEED), buy the ribeye, cook it on my grill (which I don't NEED) and enjoy it with a nice glass of red (which I don't NEED) in the comfort of my home (which I don't NEED). And maybe even share a picture of my dinner on the internet (which I don't NEED) using my computer (which I don't NEED).
Extrapolating that argument into food/nutrition in general, there are a lot of things we eat that we don't NEED. We could survive on a small variety of raw vegetables and a bit of meat to get all the essential macro and micronutrients, but why would one want to intentionally have such a limited, monotonous diet?
If I wanted to live like a monk, I would have joined a monastery. But I somehow don't feel the need for asceticism as virtue signalling.
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stevencloser wrote: »cthakkar1985 wrote: »Water is the only drink our body NEEDS, everything else is just preference the sooner you tune into that the better. Sweeteners.. sugars.. it’s all refined rubbish in my opinion.. water FTW!
You do realize that most drinks are somewhere around 99% water, right? Soda, tea, coffee, etc. Even milk (which has lots of vital nutrients in it) is somewhere around 90% water.
Unfortunately drinks like soda, tea, and coffee have caffeine in them, which dehydrate you...water by itself hydrates you. Also water has 0 calories. Nothing wrong with drinking other beverages (as long as they fit your caloric goals), but you can't beat good old H20. I drink a gallon of water a day.
Well...
The level of fluid retention in sodas and tea will depend on the caffeine content, which is why you'll notice coffee is lower than water. Interesting chart though, thanks for sharing. Either way, as I said, I aim for 1 gallon water per day, which equates to over 10 cans of soda. Don't think there's anything wrong with a few cans of soda, etc. but for me to hit my gallon of water/day, I need to rely mostly on actual water.8 -
cthakkar1985 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »cthakkar1985 wrote: »Water is the only drink our body NEEDS, everything else is just preference the sooner you tune into that the better. Sweeteners.. sugars.. it’s all refined rubbish in my opinion.. water FTW!
You do realize that most drinks are somewhere around 99% water, right? Soda, tea, coffee, etc. Even milk (which has lots of vital nutrients in it) is somewhere around 90% water.
Unfortunately drinks like soda, tea, and coffee have caffeine in them, which dehydrate you...water by itself hydrates you. Also water has 0 calories. Nothing wrong with drinking other beverages (as long as they fit your caloric goals), but you can't beat good old H20. I drink a gallon of water a day.
Well...
The level of fluid retention in sodas and tea will depend on the caffeine content, which is why you'll notice coffee is lower than water. Interesting chart though, thanks for sharing. Either way, as I said, I aim for 1 gallon water per day, which equates to over 10 cans of soda. Don't think there's anything wrong with a few cans of soda, etc. but for me to hit my gallon of water/day, I need to rely mostly on actual water.
If it was dependent on caffeine, wouldn't water be higher than cola, diet cola, tea, and cold tea?12 -
As to the OP question, I've found too much aspertame gives me headaches so I try to limit it for that reason.0
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I have a black cherry citrus Fresca pretty much everyday with my lunch and I'm still alive and stuff...
It's also my go to vodka cocktail mixer.1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »cthakkar1985 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »cthakkar1985 wrote: »Water is the only drink our body NEEDS, everything else is just preference the sooner you tune into that the better. Sweeteners.. sugars.. it’s all refined rubbish in my opinion.. water FTW!
You do realize that most drinks are somewhere around 99% water, right? Soda, tea, coffee, etc. Even milk (which has lots of vital nutrients in it) is somewhere around 90% water.
Unfortunately drinks like soda, tea, and coffee have caffeine in them, which dehydrate you...water by itself hydrates you. Also water has 0 calories. Nothing wrong with drinking other beverages (as long as they fit your caloric goals), but you can't beat good old H20. I drink a gallon of water a day.
Well...
The level of fluid retention in sodas and tea will depend on the caffeine content, which is why you'll notice coffee is lower than water. Interesting chart though, thanks for sharing. Either way, as I said, I aim for 1 gallon water per day, which equates to over 10 cans of soda. Don't think there's anything wrong with a few cans of soda, etc. but for me to hit my gallon of water/day, I need to rely mostly on actual water.
If it was dependent on caffeine, wouldn't water be higher than cola, diet cola, tea, and cold tea?
Not just caffeine, but I think that's one of the driving factors. It depends on how much you drink too. In small doses, caffeine fine, but too much can have a diuretic affect. Coffee typically has more caffeine than tea/soda, so I believe that's why it's lower on the BHI.9 -
stevencloser wrote: »cthakkar1985 wrote: »Water is the only drink our body NEEDS, everything else is just preference the sooner you tune into that the better. Sweeteners.. sugars.. it’s all refined rubbish in my opinion.. water FTW!
You do realize that most drinks are somewhere around 99% water, right? Soda, tea, coffee, etc. Even milk (which has lots of vital nutrients in it) is somewhere around 90% water.
Unfortunately drinks like soda, tea, and coffee have caffeine in them, which dehydrate you...water by itself hydrates you. Also water has 0 calories. Nothing wrong with drinking other beverages (as long as they fit your caloric goals), but you can't beat good old H20. I drink a gallon of water a day.
Well...
Also, I bet this study was done with 1 serving. Try drinking 10 cups of tea with caffeine in them - I'm pretty sure you'll have a diuretic response and end up dehydrated.16 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »I am such a radical. I drink diet soda, artificially sweetened tea AND water.
I know. It's crazy.
You know what else? I don't consume any caffeine, so that's a weird argument about drinks that aren't water I don't completely understand.
You're a lunatic
It's so frustrating how even something as simple as hydration gets boxed into these strawman arguments of either you drink nothing but pure clear organic angel-kissed water or you are a dehydrated shell of a person desperately drinking pots of coffee and liters of diet soda.
I drink 2 or 3 cups of coffee or tea, a can of diet soda, some days a beer or glass of wine, and several glasses of water (sometimes with a squirt of 0 cal flavor) every day. My pee is the right color, I feel great, I'm a healthy weight. Draw whatever conclusions you'd like from that. I'm guessing the OP has long since gotten their answer!11 -
cthakkar1985 wrote: »
Also, I bet this study was done with 1 serving. Try drinking 10 cups of tea with caffeine in them - I'm pretty sure you'll have a diuretic response and end up dehydrated.
I dont think you understand what a diuretic is or how dehydration works. If you drank tea with caffeine in a desert would you die ?
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Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »cthakkar1985 wrote: »
Also, I bet this study was done with 1 serving. Try drinking 10 cups of tea with caffeine in them - I'm pretty sure you'll have a diuretic response and end up dehydrated.
I dont think you understand what a diuretic is or how dehydration works. If you drank tea with caffeine in a desert would you die ?
Never said drinking tea would kill you. I understand you could live off of it even if that was your only source of water.
My main point is that for someone trying to get a lot of water (1 gallon/day like I do), it's difficult to do it without actually drinking a ton of pure water. That's just my personal take. If others can get that much water by drinking other liquids/or even foods, more power to them.12 -
cthakkar1985 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »cthakkar1985 wrote: »
Also, I bet this study was done with 1 serving. Try drinking 10 cups of tea with caffeine in them - I'm pretty sure you'll have a diuretic response and end up dehydrated.
I dont think you understand what a diuretic is or how dehydration works. If you drank tea with caffeine in a desert would you die ?
Never said drinking tea would kill you. I understand you could live off of it even if that was your only source of water.
My main point is that for someone trying to get a lot of water (1 gallon/day like I do), it's difficult to do it without actually drinking a ton of pure water. That's just my personal take. If others can get that much water by drinking other liquids/or even foods, more power to them.
Then it is hydrating.
If you drank 1 gallon of tea your body would absorb 1 gallon of water. personal takes and opinions have nothing to do with it.10 -
The best teas are considered to be around 50-150 ppm of solids in water. That means that the tea itself is 999850/1000000 or 99.985% water.6
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Kazane you come on these boards asking basic basic questions but then you want to present the cold hard facts...nah
Yeah.. people know some things and don’t know other things you no, that’s the whole point of learning. Just because your learning the basics of one thing doesn’t mean you no nothing about anything else. I just thought I would let the OP know that if you just stick to water you shouldn’t have any problems to worry about that’s all. I didn’t mean for or want any hate to come from it as that wasn’t my intention.6 -
BusyRaeNOTBusty wrote: »
Noo I wouldn’t think so.. Unessercery maybe, but then as I said anything from there is just preference I guess.2 -
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janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »
Nooo I don’t lol, I try and stick to a whole foods diet mainly. Is the Doyle t diet an actual thing lol?
Soylent is a liquid diet meant to include 100% of everything our bodies need. I'm surprised you're a proponent of things your body doesn't need when it comes to food but not when it comes to drinks.
Sounds nice but our stomachs are built to break things down into liquid so it would suck to be drinking just liquid all the time and take that function away from our body’s still a good idea though.
Someone built your stomach?
Yep
Well, the rest of us were not constructed in that manner so your advice wouldn't be relevant for us.
We don't have to worry about what we were "built" to do, we don't have to limit our behaviors in an attempt to conform with what we imagine the intentions our builder had for each particular part of our body (or maybe the person who built your stomach also left you a set of detailed instructions, I'm not sure what the situation is exactly).
Your confusing, my main point I’m making is that water is good to drink and probably the most optimal thing for our body’s. Why you gotta go confuse everything and make such a big deal out of it.
I'm sorry that I'm confusing you. Yes, water is good to drink. It doesn't follow that other things are therefore bad to drink, especially when those things are also mostly water.
No need to apologise I’m not offended by your statements I’m just saying there a bit confusing as all. Yeah your right they might not be “bad” to drink but there surely not better I wouldn’t think..
So once again it then comes down to preference I would say..3 -
As I said water is the liquid our body NEEDS, everything else is just preference
This is a ridiculous, reductionist line of reasoning which makes no sense to me from the get-go.
There are many, many things in our lives that we don't NEED - but they make our lives more enjoyable and convenient. I mean, I don't NEED a nice, juicy ribeye steak - I suppose I could go hunt and kill a steer with my bare hands and kneel on the ground next to it to gnaw on the raw meat (because we don't NEED fire to survive either). But nah - I'd rather drive to the grocery store (in a car I don't NEED), buy the ribeye, cook it on my grill (which I don't NEED) and enjoy it with a nice glass of red (which I don't NEED) in the comfort of my home (which I don't NEED). And maybe even share a picture of my dinner on the internet (which I don't NEED) using my computer (which I don't NEED).
Extrapolating that argument into food/nutrition in general, there are a lot of things we eat that we don't NEED. We could survive on a small variety of raw vegetables and a bit of meat to get all the essential macro and micronutrients, but why would one want to intentionally have such a limited, monotonous diet?
If I wanted to live like a monk, I would have joined a monastery. But I somehow don't feel the need for asceticism as virtue signalling.
Thank you for listing your preferences and life chocies to me, but irrelevant but aye it’s a free world and all that..
But this was the exact point i was making”our body’s NEED water so why not stick with that anything from there is just preference”
Wheather he prefers aspartame cola or she prefers wine by the fire..or whatever.. my statement still stands.
I wasn’t trying to start hate on here that wasn’t my intention at all I was just trying to help someone out. That’s all.6
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