Do we go nowhere ?

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yep. I think being dead is just....nothingness. The same as before we're born.

to me the point of life is just to try to leave the world a little better off than you found it. and that can mean something different for everyone.

But what's the point if we all disappear? Why would a dead person care if the world is better?

Why would a soul in heaven or in hell care if the world is better than it was with them in it?

But it gives some meaning to the world, a reason to be here, a lesson to be learnt. Without pain there wouldn't be reliefe. Without hate their wouldn't be love. Opposites. Lessons to be learnt, choices to be made, roads to go down. Why don't you just go and become a drug addict and throw your life away ? Or become a thief and rob people? Maybe it wasn't your destiny or maybe, you just don't chose to go down that path but maybe, it was because your chose not to. Why did you chose not to ? Probably cos you know your a good person. Where does that goodness come from? We are in a world full of hate so where does that hate come from ?

Are you suggesting that pain, relief, love and hate only exist in gods world? That lessons can only be learned through god? These are not condescending or confrontational questions. Just as there are questions in your life that don’t have answers, you simply rely on blind faith and therefore you don't question them. There are questions in my life that I just don’t question. I respect your beliefs but I don’t necessarily feel as though your life is more valuable or has more meaning in it than mine.

You are misunderstanding me I never said my life has more value or meaning than yours. I am simply trying to understand yours.

We all live here, we all die here, we pay our taxes. I question if there is more to it than simply being born, paying taxes and dying.

Oh no, no, I wasn’t implying that you had suggested that, I was just saying I still feel like you and I, and every other person for that matter, are on the same level. I just meant that because I didn’t fall out of faith and instead was just not raised with it, I don’t feel like I’m missing out on something.

So really, you can't comment on something that you know nothing about.

How would I know nothing about it? I live it.

But what about ghosts?

Well it's not like she would actually talk about ghosts or the like since she doesn't believe in them. Oh wait. She has.

But she also thinks we just end up in jars, a little bit contradictory isn't it. She probably has an explanation...

I owe you an explanation for nothing but speaking of contradictions aren’t you planning on converting your boyfriends extra room into something else when you move in with him? Remember that thread you started where you got so hammered drunk that the only person who could tolerate interacting with you was sweet and patient barefoot? That was fun. What did god think about that?

No sorry i can't seem to remember as clearly as you, thanks for reminding me of that. I'm sure god will have that 1 at the top of his list as well.

What a silly woman you are.

You. Your special brand of judgment is precisely the reason that religious discussions are not permitted in the forums.

I was brought up in a religious household. Bible study nights Tuesday's and Thursday's. Church every Sunday. I'm one of those who has drifted and has just tried to live life. I was taught that there is no afterlife, once you die, you die. The way it was put to me is that it's falling asleep and never waking up. I would hate that. I honestly am not sure what I believe these days. I have read about many different versions of an afterlife. I know natives believe in an afterlife. That when a person passes, they pass into the "next life". I'm not sure exactly what that next life is but for them, it exists. I've had dreams of my father who passed, the dreams are not pleasant, for me. In my dreams he is in this world tree. It reaches into the heavens and when you walk its winding halls you can see the stars around you, it is absolutely beautiful. I found my father in a room in this tree, alive and at peace. I could not interact with him. I tried - he couldn't hear me. I've had many dreams such as this. In other dreams, he talks to me and asks about things in my life. I'd like to think he's still experiencing life somewhere, in another time line perhaps. Who knows.

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I’m a preachers kid.

I don’t believe due to the hatred and judgement set forth by religion.

The only the thing that’s killed more people than religion is f’n mosquitos.

Religion is a means of controlling people while making others rich.

Original sin? Really? What a neat little package. No matter what, you’re bound to hell without god.

So no matter how horrible the act, we just can’t understand God’s plan?

No one has EVER come back to say how great heaven is or terrible hell is.

I’ll say this, if there is a god, he’s too busy to care what we’re doing.

Religion/god has killed millions. Made men rich and others poor, turned man against man for eons.

I have zero use for it.

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When I was 12, I was realizing just how MANY religions there are.

I asked my mom.. ‘how do we know our religion is RIGHT? God wouldn’t let US be wrong, would he?’

Never an answer.

I have the answer to your question .
I heard a preacher say this and it made sense to me .
He said ...

Because Jesus is the only one who died and came back to life .
No other religion has done that .

Dose your family know you do not believe in God ?
If so how did they take it ?

No, this is not true, Christianity's story has been told by many religions before Jesus was around. Christianity has borrowed a lot to tell their story.