May 2018 Running Challenge
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nice easy recovery run this am. 5 miles
@PastorVincent love the plan. We're all with you this weekend.
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5/1 - 2 miles
5/2 - 1.8 miles
5/3 - 1.85 (hey look, already getting faster in same workout as yesterday)
Total: 5.65 miles5 -
Goal: To reverse time with the speed of my feet. (AKA Superman II) AKA^2 The best superman.
Secondary Goal: Let everyone know I fight with depression and bi-polar disorder. Total High/Low personality.
My son s bipolar. He struggles with alcohol too. You know there's nothing but support and love in this group. *Sisu fist bump*4 -
@PastorVincent sounds like a great plan. I know you are chomping at the bit and feel like a caged animal right now, but try to relax and use that energy for the race. Really pulling for you for sub 4 (that is my ultimate goal for Houston in January). Best of luck!2
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PastorVincent wrote: »So three days out from marathon... in case there are any stalkers, my bib number is 53517 ( http://www.thepittsburghmarathon.com/runnertracking )
This will be my wife's first marathon and she is very much worried about completing it, but I think she will be fine. She will be running probably a 13 min pace. Her bib is : 53518
I think I have my sub-4 plan about worked out. I am going to steal a bicycle!
More seriously, I ordered one of those fancy Race Tattoos ( AMAZON LINK) for a 3:55 Marathon. That should solve one of my big problems. When I see a mile sign (like say 15) I have no idea what time I should see as I pass it (and I always lose track of the pacer). I have already proven I can not do math while running so figuring it out on my feet is a bad plan. This means I do not really know if I am behind or ahead no matter what the clock says. With this tattoo, I plan to just shoot to stay ahead of where it says I should be.
So I figure I will find the 3:50 pacer (8:50 min/mile) and stick with them for the start. With the new course, the first half is the flattest easiest section of the route. This worries me a little since it will make it really easy to start too fast. At around mile 13 there is a nasty hill that I was not ready for the last two marathons. I think I am ready for it this year.
My hope is that I will hit 20 miles by around 2:50 - 2:55. If I do, I should be able to hold that pace all the way to the finish. If not, there is a substantial downhill in the last section and I will push for negative splits.
Once across I will get food and drink, rest a little, then follow the course backward to find my wife. She will be a good 90-120 minutes behind me I figure. Once I meet up with her I will jog in with her. I have down this at every race where timing allowed for it, but this might be the hardest one ever to pull that off at.
I will carry with me Clifbok and water, plus take advantage of the Gatorade at rest stops. Right now it looks like temps will be in the low 50s with low humidity at race start but climb quickly. So hydration will be a big factor.
Anyways, it is a plan at least. Not sure if it is a good one, but it is a plan.
It is too late to edit the post, but I put the WRONG BIB numbers in there
Here is the right info in such a way as I can not typo it again 
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Race report copied from Garmin NATS HM GP County No 1. 2:39:21 27 minutes off my PB.
Trail HM in the Sand Dune Trails. Varied from starting on the Horse Race Track (soft machine tilled dirt), a bit of road to transfer into the trails, double and single track, sand and dirt/mud.
Due to flooding in parts of the course we did 2 loops of the 10km course plus a slight extension around the Horse racing track .
A Double Edge sword. As the sand got churned up it became loose and you lost traction.
As the Muddy spots got churned up they quickly dried out. So on the 1st loop the mud was brutal and the sand was solid. 2nd loop the sand was brutal and the mud was solid. High wind ~40km/h made for some tough Headwind sections, also if you caught up to people or were meeting it was getting throwen up by the shoes and creating a real Sand Blasting effect. Had sand in every thing. Mens AG 3rd. Knowing I was under trained I went out slow and tapered off to survive to the finish. I fun event. 5, 10, 21 & 42.
Final 42 finisher Mother & 12 yr old daughter 5:20:34.
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this whole not running is a struggle. 2 more days and i'll be running 13.1
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Crack me up. I was wondering who that sheep person is too!May...I'll be easy and say 150 miles. May 20 I'm starting a high mileage training plan for Last Chance BQ.2 in Geneva, Illinois. So I'll be up there with my mate Gary and that sheep person that runs in Boston (lol). MobyCarp drops an injured 41:30 at a 10k (aka my PR). Dear Lord let him be a horseman of the Apocalypse or give me swifter feet.
@Shanaber- Love your "7 reasons"!0 -
5/1-5 miles (3 @ tempo)
5/2-P90X3 Isometrix+1.3 miles with Stella
6.3/90
Quick run with Stella last night after doing a P90X3 workout. It was supposed to be a rest day but I feel like this plan has a bit too much taper in it. Temps were in the high 80s and I think it was a bit hot for the pup. She was dragging, so we cut it short.
Today I get my Remicade, which should leave me in good shape for my marathon on Sunday. I am supposed to run 4 miles today. I like the neighborhood around my doc's office and was planning on running there after my appointment, but I realized that I forgot my shoes at home. So now I have to decide if I want to run in the shoes I am wearing (I originally bought them to be running shoes but did not like them so they became everyday wear to work shoes) or wait until I get home. I will probably play it safe and wait. No sense risking injury by running in faulty shoes this close to my race.
I've been stalking the weather forecast for Sunday. So far it looks to be pretty good. Low 50s at the start then warming up to the high 70s, but hopefully I will be done before then. There is a chance of thunderstorms later in the day which worries me because out weather people often miss the timing on those kinds of things. Oh well, I will be running either way. Can hardly complain after what @MobyCarp dealt with in Boston and @MNLittleFinn and @7Lenny7 at Zumbro, right?6 -
So I have a fun dilemma. Wear a device on each wrist or retire my Fitbit that I've only had since August?
Retire the fitbit. Once you go Garmin, you won't go back.
Also, seriously, it's nice to have all of your exercise/fitness information in one place.
A very easy 4 miles this morning though it was supposed to be a rest day. The weather was just too nice to resist. Potential rain this weekend so maybe I'll skip my long run.
5/1: 5.4 miles easy
5/2: 6.2 miles speed (10K PR!)
5/3: 4.5 miles easy
Total May: 16 out of 100
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5/1 - 5 mile group speed/track workout, then upper body weights / abs.
5/2 - Overslept...unplanned rest day.
5/3 - 4 treadmill miles. Trek Class.
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lporter229 wrote: »I've been stalking the weather forecast for Sunday. So far it looks to be pretty good. Low 50s at the start then warming up to the high 70s, but hopefully I will be done before then. There is a chance of thunderstorms later in the day which worries me because out weather people often miss the timing on those kinds of things. Oh well, I will be running either way. Can hardly complain after what @MobyCarp dealt with in Boston and @MNLittleFinn and @7Lenny7 at Zumbro, right?
Another runner told me the weather is a neutral factor. On race day, everyone gets the same weather. I maintain that runners who trained in the weather that shows up on race day have an advantage. The more extreme the weather is, the greater the advantage for having trained in it.
At Boston, I had a HUGE advantage over everyone who let rain drive them indoors to run on a dreadmill. Among other things, I knew precisely what I wanted to wear in that weather. No floppy plastic bags for me.8 -
@shanaber Nope, apparently tea doesn't start smelling like tea until it's dried and heated. On trees, they smell like trees.
5.3-10.3k, total-13.3k, May goal 100k
Had a strange run. Started out slow, like uncomprehensibly slow. And for some reason kept speeding up, even though I *felt* like I was on the same effort level.
Was going to pull the plug at 7k and take a bus home, but lo and behold I'd just missed the last bus. So trotted the 3k back, making a little over 10k.6 -
lporter229 wrote: »I've been stalking the weather forecast for Sunday. So far it looks to be pretty good. Low 50s at the start then warming up to the high 70s, but hopefully I will be done before then. There is a chance of thunderstorms later in the day which worries me because out weather people often miss the timing on those kinds of things. Oh well, I will be running either way. Can hardly complain after what @MobyCarp dealt with in Boston and @MNLittleFinn and @7Lenny7 at Zumbro, right?
Another runner told me the weather is a neutral factor. On race day, everyone gets the same weather. I maintain that runners who trained in the weather that shows up on race day have an advantage. The more extreme the weather is, the greater the advantage for having trained in it.
At Boston, I had a HUGE advantage over everyone who let rain drive them indoors to run on a dreadmill. Among other things, I knew precisely what I wanted to wear in that weather. No floppy plastic bags for me.
Exactly. The importance of this cannot be overstated, particularly at the extremes. If you only run when it's comfortable to do so, you'll have a tough time on race day when it's not comfortable conditions. Seek out the hot, cold, rain and snow (but maybe avoid lightning, tornadoes and hurricanes) and you'll be a better, tougher runner.
At Zumbro many saw the weather as a negative but I loved, loved, LOVED it! Except for that extreme wind, which really only affected a small part of the course, the weather was damn near perfect for me because I trained in similar weather all winter. I would be ecstatic to be able to run in those same conditions again, yet a fair amount of the racers would probably stay home. I can point to several reasons for my DNF, but the weather was not one of them, at least not directly.
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We had thunderstorms this morning so no run for me. I just did a little extra yoga instead. Now I have to decide if I want to do today's run this afternoon after work when it is supposed to be 90F or do it tomorrow after work when it is supposed to be 74F. There is supposed to be rain again in the morning. At least my shoes finally came in!
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lporter229 wrote: »I've been stalking the weather forecast for Sunday. So far it looks to be pretty good. Low 50s at the start then warming up to the high 70s, but hopefully I will be done before then. There is a chance of thunderstorms later in the day which worries me because out weather people often miss the timing on those kinds of things. Oh well, I will be running either way. Can hardly complain after what @MobyCarp dealt with in Boston and @MNLittleFinn and @7Lenny7 at Zumbro, right?
Another runner told me the weather is a neutral factor. On race day, everyone gets the same weather. I maintain that runners who trained in the weather that shows up on race day have an advantage. The more extreme the weather is, the greater the advantage for having trained in it.
At Boston, I had a HUGE advantage over everyone who let rain drive them indoors to run on a dreadmill. Among other things, I knew precisely what I wanted to wear in that weather. No floppy plastic bags for me.
Of course this only matters if you are competing with the other runners. I have no delusions of placing in my age group in this large race, so my only goal is to have fun running it. It's likely to be a lot more fun if it's not thunder storming.
But to your point, I totally agree. Although it wasn't very extreme, I know the heat at Boston affected some runners last year (2017). I had made a point of doing some of my training runs in the mid afternoon because I hadn't been acclimated to the heat after training through the winter. I am pretty sure that was a wise move because, even though I wasn't running for a PR and was nearly 15 minutes slower than my qualifying time, I still finished over 6000 spots ahead of where I started.2 -
@PastorVincent it sounds like you have a great plan for race day!
@juliet3455 I think sand is my least favorite surface to run on. Mud I like, loose sand I despise. It sounds like you did a great job executing on race day, given your undertraining. Congrats on the AG finish!
@lporter229 have a great race on Sunday!3 -
I maintain that runners who trained in the weather that shows up on race day have an advantage. The more extreme the weather is, the greater the advantage for having trained in it.
Truth. I ran my first HM the day before Boston and we got the same weather including the ridiculous wind. We ran dead into the teeth of a steady 20 mph wind with much stronger gusts for the closing 7 miles.
I trained in cold and rain and wasn't bothered by them. Wind, however, is my nemesis. I never do anything in the wind and hate it with a passion. Safe to say that it totally killed my race. I didn't prepare properly (I wore baggier rain gear, etc.) and had no idea how to adapt to the environment (didn't even think of a drafting strategy, nor had any clue how to adjust my pacing to account for the tail/head winds out and back).
I hated every minute into the headwind on the return and stopped trying/caring by mile 10. I only finished the race because I had to get back to my car anyway!2 -
lporter229 wrote: »lporter229 wrote: »I've been stalking the weather forecast for Sunday. So far it looks to be pretty good. Low 50s at the start then warming up to the high 70s, but hopefully I will be done before then. There is a chance of thunderstorms later in the day which worries me because out weather people often miss the timing on those kinds of things. Oh well, I will be running either way. Can hardly complain after what @MobyCarp dealt with in Boston and @MNLittleFinn and @7Lenny7 at Zumbro, right?
Another runner told me the weather is a neutral factor. On race day, everyone gets the same weather. I maintain that runners who trained in the weather that shows up on race day have an advantage. The more extreme the weather is, the greater the advantage for having trained in it.
At Boston, I had a HUGE advantage over everyone who let rain drive them indoors to run on a dreadmill. Among other things, I knew precisely what I wanted to wear in that weather. No floppy plastic bags for me.
Of course this only matters if you are competing with the other runners. I have no delusions of placing in my age group in this large race, so my only goal is to have fun running it. It's likely to be a lot more fun if it's not thunder storming.
But to your point, I totally agree. Although it wasn't very extreme, I know the heat at Boston affected some runners last year (2017). I had made a point of doing some of my training runs in the mid afternoon because I hadn't been acclimated to the heat after training through the winter. I am pretty sure that was a wise move because, even though I wasn't running for a PR and was nearly 15 minutes slower than my qualifying time, I still finished over 6000 spots ahead of where I started.
I think it matters even if you're not competing with others. Attitude is everything and if you've trained in the same terrible conditions as race day, then you can draw on that experience, be confident in your ability to perform, and go about the race with a better attitude.
Now if you try to train in terrible conditions but quit halfway through the run and go home, that of course wouldn't be a confidence booster.2
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