Somebody lectured me about Splenda today

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  • smantha32
    smantha32 Posts: 6,990 Member
    Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »
    nickssweetheart wrote: »
    ruqayyahsmum wrote: »
    My friend offerred a "homeless" guy complete with a begging sign a sandwich, crisps and a drink, he told her to *kitten* off..... 8 hours later on her way home from work she saw the same guy getting into a bow parked down a side street

    Frankly, this sounds like the sort of thing that gets posted to Facebook as always having happened to someone's "friend" and is really just spewing misinformation about people that are already marginalized in our society so that the rest of us can feel better about social inequality.

    There are several professional beggers in Toronto who when exposed at the time several years ago owned homes,cars and considerable savings. It was a big story for quite some time tgat identified the specific people.. they were pretty pissed and some moved to different cities so they could keep begging.

    Now obviously this isnt a reality for all. But it does exist.

    There's a known family who does it in my area. Two parents and 3 adolescent kids. None work and they make an obscene amount of money begging. Large house, multiple cars.. occasionally they get busted for it, but it's a fine or misdemeanor and they just pay it and go about their business.

  • rowlandsw
    rowlandsw Posts: 1,166 Member
    I had no problem with splenda but my mom noticed that even though doctors say it is better for folks with diabetes it sent her blood sugar all over the place compared to just using sugar in stuff.
  • CSARdiver
    CSARdiver Posts: 6,252 Member
    mph323 wrote: »
    At Starbucks (!) I was standing at the bar with her - she reached across me for truvia, I reached across her for splenda. We smiled at each other. And she says out of the blue "You shouldn't use that stuff, you know. It's worse than sugar." I did my tight, inappropriate stranger smile and finished stirring my coffee - and she keeps on lecturing! "You really need to stop using that, it's nothing but chemicals. It's really a terrible thing to do to your body..." and on and on as she's walking out the door. I half-expected her to hand me a pamphlet directing me to some kind of artificial sweetener support group. It was kind of surreal - and I wish I hadn't been so stunned that I had absolutely nothing to say :(

    I've read here about strangers making inappropriate comments in general about people's food choices, but usually not direct evangalizing to their faces - it's certainly a first for me! Does this sort of thing happen often, and am I just oblivious? Does anyone want to share a story?

    And of course, now I'm thinking of all the things I could have said if I was just a little bit quicker on my feet - did anyone actually think fast enough to make a good comeback?

    Is an open hand slap acceptable?

    If not we need to bring it back.
  • Ruatine
    Ruatine Posts: 3,424 Member
    I was buying a Monster Zero Ultra in my office building's cafe once and had a stranger say, "Did you see the article on Facebook about those?" I just glanced at her, said, "Nope!," and continued on about my business ignoring her. She didn't pursue the conversation, for which I was very grateful. I have no time for busybodies, especially ones who get their information from their Facebook feed. :neutral:

    I :heart: Splenda. It's my go-to sweetener. I use 4 g in my standard cup of coffee (and, yes, I log those 13 calories). (Also, just to point out, I saw Splenda conflated with aspartame earlier in this thread. They are not the same thing. Splenda is not made with two amino acids. Splenda is made by combining dextrose, maltodextrin and sucralose [sucrose that has been altered to contain three chlorine atoms].) I like that I can easily cook/bake with Splenda too - easier than Equal/NutraSweet or Stevia. I find that Stevia leaves me with a bitter aftertaste like no other sweetener I've used and Equal/NutraSweet requires too many alterations to a recipe to make the flavor come out right.
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    Ruatine wrote: »
    I was buying a Monster Zero Ultra in my office building's cafe once and had a stranger say, "Did you see the article on Facebook about those?" I just glanced at her, said, "Nope!," and continued on about my business ignoring her. She didn't pursue the conversation, for which I was very grateful. I have no time for busybodies, especially ones who get their information from their Facebook feed. :neutral:

    I :heart: Splenda. It's my go-to sweetener. I use 4 g in my standard cup of coffee (and, yes, I log those 13 calories). (Also, just to point out, I saw Splenda conflated with aspartame earlier in this thread. They are not the same thing. Splenda is not made with two amino acids. Splenda is made by combining dextrose, maltodextrin and sucralose [sucrose that has been altered to contain three chlorine atoms].) I like that I can easily cook/bake with Splenda too - easier than Equal/NutraSweet or Stevia. I find that Stevia leaves me with a bitter aftertaste like no other sweetener I've used and Equal/NutraSweet requires too many alterations to a recipe to make the flavor come out right.

    Yup. That's what I get for posting when I'm on the run! Aspartame is the two amino acids.

    You can get liquid sucralose which doesn't have dextrose or maltodextrin, though.
  • ConnieT1030
    ConnieT1030 Posts: 894 Member
    midwesterner85 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »

    A couple summers ago I was leaving a fancy pizza restaurant in Santa Barbara with some leftovers, and we passed a guy on the street with a sign that said “homeless and hungry please help”. I offered him the pizza leftovers and he said “no thanks, I don’t eat dairy”. Maybe it was the same guy!

    I suppose I could understand if there were a dairy intolerance. I've offered food to homeless people and have never been turned down. But I would understand if I tried to give a bag of peanuts to someone and they declined because of an allergy.
    I started thinking the same, better have an allergy!
    Maybe if it was a one-ingredient food, but when I read this to my husband he said, if he was hungry and couldnt eat cheese, he would just pull off the cheese and eat the bread & tomato sauce!
    Clearly these people have never actually been hungry, they just want cash for whatever reason(s).
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,238 Member
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3982014/

    Sucralose (Fig. 1c) was discovered in 1976. This non-nutritive sweetener is made from sucrose by a process that substitutes 3 chloride atoms for 3 hydroxyl groups on the sucrose molecule (FDA 2006). Sucralose is 450–650 times sweeter than sucrose, has a pleasant sweet taste and its quality and time intensity profile is very close to that of sucrose (Arora et al. 2009). It has a moderate synergy with other nutritive and non-nutritive sweeteners. (Beyts et al. 1995).

    It is very much soluble in water and is stable over a wide range of pH and temperature. It does liberate HCl when stored at high temperature and produce some kind of discoloration (Beyts et al. 1995).

    The synthesis of sucralose involves a series of selective protection and deprotection steps so that the 4-hydroxyl group can be converted to a chloro atom with inversion of configuration. Treatment of the free hydroxyl groups with sulfuryl chloride produce trichlorodisaccharide which is then deprotected to give the sucralose (Ager et al. 1998). The use of enzymes or microbial cultures to augment synthetic organic chemistry and carry our selected functionalization of complex molecule has been widely documented in the growing field of biocatalysis (Wong and Whitesides 1994).

    Although sucralose is made from sugar, the human body does not recognize it as a sugar and does not metabolize it therefore it provides no calories. The bulk of sucralose ingested does not leave the gastrointestinal tract and is directly excreted in the feces while 11–27% of it is absorbed (Knight 1993). The amount that is absorbed from the gastro intestinal tract is largely removed from the blood stream by the kidneys and eliminated in the urine. As it is an organo chloride and some of which are known to have significant toxicity (Patel et al. 2006) but sucralose is not known to be toxic. In addition sucralose does not breakdown or dechlorinate. In determining the safety of sucralose, the FDA reviewed data from more than 110 studies in human and animals. Many of the studies were designed to identify possible toxic effects including carcinogenic reproductive and neurological effects but no such effects were found. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval is based on the findings that sucralose is safe for human consumption. U.S. Food and Drug Administration (USFDA) approved sucralose as a general-purpose sweetener. The acceptable daily intake (ADI) for sucralose in US is 5mg/kg body weight/day. The estimated daily intake for percentile consumers as calculated by USFDA is 1.6mg/kg body weight/day (USFDA 1999).
  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,565 Member
    ultra_violets wrote: »
    I was at Wendy's a few months ago and decided to treat myself to some cheese fries, one of my favorite treat meals. The man standing beside me at the counter glanced down at my tray and said pointedly, "I wonder how many calories that has." I looked him in the eye and said "None of your effing business. That's how many." He took a seat at the table behind mine and stared a hole through me the entire time I was eating.

    That's not just inappropriate, that's actually creepy. I would peg that episode as an attempt to intimidate rather than educate. Hugs!
  • Breeticus87
    Breeticus87 Posts: 114 Member
    I haven't had anything like all of that, but what I can't stand is when I tell people about my eating habits now that I have changed the way I eat, and they all have something to say about it. "You know you should try the low carb diet, if you cut carbs you lose a lot of weight" "Hey do you still eat dairy, you should cut that out, you know humans are the only animal that consumes the milk of another animal?" "Are you sure you are consuming enough calories? You are losing a lot of weight really fast and thats not healthy!"

    I have retorts for all of them, "Yes low carb is a fast and healthy way to lose weight quickly, but there are good carbs, and you need a little, so don't lecture me on how many to cut" "Yea well cheese is delicious, so is cereal, I am not lactose intolerant so I enjoy milk :)" "I may be losing weight really fast because my body is used to eating McDonalds everyday and I don't consume my body weight in beer every night, so yes I am losing weight quickly because I am eating clean and cutting back on my drinking" but I think I have just come to the conclusion that no matter what you do in life there is always going to be someone there to try and ruin it for you.

    I just say the best thing to do is do whats best for you, to hell with nay sayers. 9 times out of 10 the only reason they feel the need to bring these things up is because they are unhappy with their own decisions, and the only pleasure they get out of it is in these small moments where they get to be elitists and say "Look at me, this is what I do and you should consider it too" trust me it has nothing to do with you, its so that later when they are hanging around their other elitist friends they can say "Guess what I told a perfect stranger today, even though it was reallyy none of my business" lol
  • soufauxgirl
    soufauxgirl Posts: 392 Member
    vingogly wrote: »
    "That's bad for you!"
    "That's not what nunya says."
    "Who?"
    "Nunya business."

    FOR THE WIN

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