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Are Processed Foods "Bad"?
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WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
My friuit cake contains only self ground almonds and raisins which currently I'm eating daily.
Both of which are processed...
...raw almonds are not processed...3 -
WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
My friuit cake contains only self ground almonds and raisins which currently I'm eating daily.
Both of which are processed...
...raw almonds are not processed...
I’m sure someone will claim that taking the shells off the almonds makes them processed!
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stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
Yeah. Cake is so processed that even its main ingredients are processed: Flour (usually enriched white flour at that), sugar, butter, vanilla extract, milk. And the baking powder: That stuff is in there just because it's chemikills!
That stuff will surely kill you! May I please have a slice?
whole fat butter is not processed
It comes right out of the cow in those cool, neatly wrapped cubes?
Learn something new every day.13 -
stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
use self rising flour, alternative sugars such as dates...
Self rising flour just has the baking powder already in it (plus salt), in addition to the fine-ground wheat (and maybe some "enriched" vitamin content). It's not "less processed"; it's "more processed". Date sugar has a whalloping lot of sucrose, just like table sugar (a.k.a. beet sugar, cane sugar).8 -
Next thing you’ll tell me is finely ground wheat berries aren’t processed either.8
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stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
Yeah. Cake is so processed that even its main ingredients are processed: Flour (usually enriched white flour at that), sugar, butter, vanilla extract, milk. And the baking powder: That stuff is in there just because it's chemikills!
That stuff will surely kill you! May I please have a slice?
whole fat butter is not processed
Yeah, it is. It's churned (in an industrial way) and usually salted. Processed. Butter doesn't come out of the cow in wax-paper-wrapped rectangular chunks. "Full fat butter" is just butter. "Low fat butter" is not butter at all: It's butter substitute. Butter is dairy fat.10 -
stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
Yeah. Cake is so processed that even its main ingredients are processed: Flour (usually enriched white flour at that), sugar, butter, vanilla extract, milk. And the baking powder: That stuff is in there just because it's chemikills!
That stuff will surely kill you! May I please have a slice?
whole fat butter is not processed
It comes right out of the cow in those cool, neatly wrapped cubes?
Learn something new every day.
it's great to learn something new everyday! Keeps you mentally healthy. Raw butter is unprocessed, unheated, unpasteurized and unhomogenised butter fat which comes from cream. This means that raw butter contains all of the necessary vitamins and minerals that nature intended it to contain.12 -
stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
Yeah. Cake is so processed that even its main ingredients are processed: Flour (usually enriched white flour at that), sugar, butter, vanilla extract, milk. And the baking powder: That stuff is in there just because it's chemikills!
That stuff will surely kill you! May I please have a slice?
whole fat butter is not processed
Yeah, it is. It's churned (in an industrial way) and usually salted. Processed. Butter doesn't come out of the cow in wax-paper-wrapped rectangular chunks. "Full fat butter" is just butter. "Low fat butter" is not butter at all: It's butter substitute. Butter is dairy fat.
Raw butter is unprocessed, unheated, unpasteurized and unhomogenised butter fat which comes from cream. This means that raw butter contains all of the necessary vitamins and minerals that nature intended it to contain.9 -
stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
use self rising flour, alternative sugars such as dates...
Self rising flour just has the baking powder already in it (plus salt), in addition to the fine-ground wheat (and maybe some "enriched" vitamin content). It's not "less processed"; it's "more processed". Date sugar has a whalloping lot of sucrose, just like table sugar (a.k.a. beet sugar, cane sugar).
does the sucrose make it processed? i think of processed differently. Basically all food we eat unless raw is considered process if you base it on your response. But when I think of processed I thing of "Industrial processing depending upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains."4 -
tennisdude2004 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
My friuit cake contains only self ground almonds and raisins which currently I'm eating daily.
Both of which are processed...
...raw almonds are not processed...
I’m sure someone will claim that taking the shells off the almonds makes them processed!
And this is where the ridiculousness about "processed foods" stems from, and why it's as crazy, nebulous and subjective to define as "clean eating". Did somebody pick those sealed, pre-weighed bags of raw almonds straight from a tree? Or were those almonds harvested, shelled, sorted, weighed and packaged in a factory? Who makes the determination as to whether that fits the definition of "processed" or not, and does that fact that they went through that processing automatically make them "bad for you"? Where, and by who, is a definitive line drawn where processing beyond some particular arbitrary point makes things "bad for you"?7 -
tennisdude2004 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
My friuit cake contains only self ground almonds and raisins which currently I'm eating daily.
Both of which are processed...
...raw almonds are not processed...
I’m sure someone will claim that taking the shells off the almonds makes them processed!
hahaha....everyone has their opinion, right? i was simply trying to make a point to the initial poster of thread: eat well -->nutrition dense food, eat cake once in awhile, & spread the love.3 -
tennisdude2004 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
My friuit cake contains only self ground almonds and raisins which currently I'm eating daily.
Both of which are processed...
...raw almonds are not processed...
I’m sure someone will claim that taking the shells off the almonds makes them processed!
Shelled, cleaned, pasteurized (even 'raw' ones). Sounds like processes to me.7 -
stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
Yeah. Cake is so processed that even its main ingredients are processed: Flour (usually enriched white flour at that), sugar, butter, vanilla extract, milk. And the baking powder: That stuff is in there just because it's chemikills!
That stuff will surely kill you! May I please have a slice?
whole fat butter is not processed
Yeah, it is. It's churned (in an industrial way) and usually salted. Processed. Butter doesn't come out of the cow in wax-paper-wrapped rectangular chunks. "Full fat butter" is just butter. "Low fat butter" is not butter at all: It's butter substitute. Butter is dairy fat.
Raw butter is unprocessed, unheated, unpasteurized and unhomogenised butter fat which comes from cream. This means that raw butter contains all of the necessary vitamins and minerals that nature intended it to contain.
The cream is churned to encourage the butterfat to separate from the milk. The butterfat is then pressed to remove the rest of the liquid. Processed.
More processed than finely ground raw wheatberries. Also known as flour.
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stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
Yeah. Cake is so processed that even its main ingredients are processed: Flour (usually enriched white flour at that), sugar, butter, vanilla extract, milk. And the baking powder: That stuff is in there just because it's chemikills!
That stuff will surely kill you! May I please have a slice?
whole fat butter is not processed
Yeah, it is. It's churned (in an industrial way) and usually salted. Processed. Butter doesn't come out of the cow in wax-paper-wrapped rectangular chunks. "Full fat butter" is just butter. "Low fat butter" is not butter at all: It's butter substitute. Butter is dairy fat.
Raw butter is unprocessed, unheated, unpasteurized and unhomogenised butter fat which comes from cream. This means that raw butter contains all of the necessary vitamins and minerals that nature intended it to contain.
It comes from cream by . . . magic? I would've thought it was processing.
Does self-rising flour also contain all the necessary vitamins and minerals that nature intended it to contain?
Look, I prefer butter to margarine or imitation butter or whatever, because humans have been eating it and thriving for millennia. But it's processed. "Processed" is not evil. It's just transformed in some way. Some processing removes nutrients, some adds nutrients, some is nutrient neutral. Some processing introduces undesirable qualities (hydrogenation of fats, for one). Other processing enhances desirable qualities (freezing, in some scenarios). When it comes to making food choices, whether it is "processed" is a pretty faulty way to distinguish between reasonable choices and risky ones.8 -
stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
use self rising flour, alternative sugars such as dates...
Self rising flour just has the baking powder already in it (plus salt), in addition to the fine-ground wheat (and maybe some "enriched" vitamin content). It's not "less processed"; it's "more processed". Date sugar has a whalloping lot of sucrose, just like table sugar (a.k.a. beet sugar, cane sugar).
does the sucrose make it processed? i think of processed differently. Basically all food we eat unless raw is considered process if you base it on your response. But when I think of processed I thing of "Industrial processing depending upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains."
No, but the sucrose means the date sugar is utilized by your body in essentially the same way as table sugar. In the amount of either sugar that's part of a well-balanced diet, the additional nutrients in date sugar are negligible.5 -
stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
Yeah. Cake is so processed that even its main ingredients are processed: Flour (usually enriched white flour at that), sugar, butter, vanilla extract, milk. And the baking powder: That stuff is in there just because it's chemikills!
That stuff will surely kill you! May I please have a slice?
whole fat butter is not processed
It comes right out of the cow in those cool, neatly wrapped cubes?
Learn something new every day.
it's great to learn something new everyday! Keeps you mentally healthy. Raw butter is unprocessed, unheated, unpasteurized and unhomogenised butter fat which comes from cream. This means that raw butter contains all of the necessary vitamins and minerals that nature intended it to contain.
@dra760 as a kid my mom and I made butter by hand so technically it is mechanically produced to be in an edible form. No it was not chemically produced like artificial butter.4 -
tennisdude2004 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Some processed foods are great. Some are pretty calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Can't make a blanket statement
I don't usually see people who claim to avoid processed foods to distinguish between the ones that are "great" and the one that are calorie heavy and nutrient poor.
Besides, what's wrong with a delicious piece of cake on occasion esp if it's within the context of an overall balanced diet?
You can have cake and not have it be processed. i think it's about the ingredients. to me processed food contains chemicals (such as preservatives) that does not occur naturally in food. i personally avoid processed food such as margarine and stick with foods if they are boxed and canned that do not have preservatives. Sometimes this is hard such as coconut milk because it contains guar but I still eat it. Just keep in mind avoiding food that never goes bad.
Explanation of processed food based on Weston A. Price:
Unfortunately, in modern times, we have substituted local artisanal processing with factory and industrial processing, which actually diminishes the quality of the food, rather than making it more nutritious and digestible. Industrial processing depends upon sugar, white flour, processed and hydrogenated oils, synthetic food additives and vitamins, heat treatment and the extrusion of grains.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-foods/dirty-secrets-of-the-food-processing-industry/
Can you show me the nearest cake tree? There's nothing about cake that is not processed.
My friuit cake contains only self ground almonds and raisins which currently I'm eating daily.
Both of which are processed...
...raw almonds are not processed...
I’m sure someone will claim that taking the shells off the almonds makes them processed!
That's the problem with the term....it isn't really defined. I th I'll no one could easily claim almonds you buy in a store are processed simply because they have been heavily modified from their natural counterpart in order to be made edible. Natural almonds are quite poisonous....a handful would likely kill you.
Which brings us to the other term that gets thrown around a lot....natural.5 -
Wootrition and empty calories.0
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My Fisher whole natural almonds state almonds as the only ingredient for example. The backside reads Live Life UNSHELLED.2
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