4 hour body /diet
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ACanadian22 wrote: »It is all good peeps. I don't see why everyone is attacking. I see plenty of beachbody, keto, etc. This is no different. Be nice. Welcome to MFP Sir!
People are pointing out that the claims made by this program are physically impossible, in the hopes that a person new to weight loss reading this thread will not waste their time and money on this woo.
So you had experimented with this and you already know that it's ok impossible to lose weight on it? Do you even know how this system work and what it entails?
Everyone can do whatever work for them.. but I see people here with very strong opinions about his system without even knowing much about it than just a few Google searches
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I understand your frustration with us but you haven't actually told us anything about what you actually did to lose the weight. Why don't you share some of this with us we really would be interested. But you can't expect us all to buy the book when we think it is a sham.3
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Based on the outlandish claims (physiologically impossible even), I'm not wasting my money on the book.
I would also be interested in hearing about the changes you've made.7 -
ACanadian22 wrote: »It is all good peeps. I don't see why everyone is attacking. I see plenty of beachbody, keto, etc. This is no different. Be nice. Welcome to MFP Sir!
People are pointing out that the claims made by this program are physically impossible, in the hopes that a person new to weight loss reading this thread will not waste their time and money on this woo.
So you had experimented with this and you already know that it's ok impossible to lose weight on it? Do you even know how this system work and what it entails?
Everyone can do whatever work for them.. but I see people here with very strong opinions about his system without even knowing much about it than just a few Google searches
Certainly it's possible to lose weight with this system, it's possible to lose weight with any system where you eat fewer calories than you expend. I'm looking at the list of benefits this program advertises - I don't need to read the book to know some are physically impossible, and others are just a little...odd.
You Will Learn
How to prevent fat gain while bingeing (X-mas, holidays, weekends)
Days eating excessive calories combined with days of severe calorie restriction = maintenance
How to increase fat-loss 300% with a few bags of ice
There are some legit studies out there that indicate we burn more calories in a cold environment. The increase is in fractions of a percent over normal room temp
How Tim gained 34 pounds of muscle in 28 days, without steroids, and in four hours of total gym time
This is physically impossible
How to sleep 2 hours per day and feel fully rested
Seriously?
How to produce 15-minute female orgasms
I'm pretending I don't even see this one
How to triple testosterone and double sperm count
Aaand...leaving this to the Guys of MFP to deal with
How to go from running 5 kilometers to 50 kilometers in 12 weeks
You can get training programs for free on YouTube
How to reverse “permanent” injuries
If it's a "permanent" injury, it's by definition irreversable
How to add 150+ pounds to your lifts in 6 months
I'll leave this one for the lifters6 -
manderson27 wrote: »I understand your frustration with us but you haven't actually told us anything about what you actually did to lose the weight. Why don't you share some of this with us we really would be interested. But you can't expect us all to buy the book when we think it is a sham.
I postes this forum with the intention that anyone else who follow this program or actually knew something about it could follow each other's and offer one another support.. instead everyone here is attacking just because someone follow a different method than their. It doesn't matter what method people follow as long as it works for them and it's not a health hazard to them. And people need to respect that.
The 4 hour body system is not just about weight lost. It have many different areas about personal wellness. The area follow from the book is the one related to weight lost. And that system is just basically the same as any other low carbs programs out there like the keto, South Beach , Atkins, etc. What's is difference about the 4 hours is that is focus on the maximum effect dosage. What I mean by that? If looks at the most effective weight to lose day and to gain muscles.. example someone can go to the gym and do 45 minutes on a treadmill to try to shred some weight, but is that the most effective way? No.. you can do 10 minutes of kettle bells swing and have the same or better effect. As far as eating.. this program exclude cheese , you can eat beans, green vegetables, and meat.. but what I like most is that you are allow to fall of the wagon and have a cheat day once a week.. you need to confuse your body cell so that you don't reach a plastous.. there is way more to this than just what I'm trying to explain .. and the reason why I'm telling people to read the book or do more research is not because I want people to change system or to advertise the 4 hours body but it is cuz I believe that before people have so strong opinions they need to know what they are taking about it.. At the end of the day it works for me and that's all it matter11 -
manderson27 wrote: »I understand your frustration with us but you haven't actually told us anything about what you actually did to lose the weight. Why don't you share some of this with us we really would be interested. But you can't expect us all to buy the book when we think it is a sham.
I postes this forum with the intention that anyone else who follow this program or actually knew something about it could follow each other's and offer one another support.. instead everyone here is attacking just because someone follow a different method than their. It doesn't matter what method people follow as long as it works for them and it's not a health hazard to them. And people need to respect that.
The 4 hour body system is not just about weight lost. It have many different areas about personal wellness. The area follow from the book is the one related to weight lost. And that system is just basically the same as any other low carbs programs out there like the keto, South Beach , Atkins, etc. What's is difference about the 4 hours is that is focus on the maximum effect dosage. What I mean by that? If looks at the most effective weight to lose day and to gain muscles.. example someone can go to the gym and do 45 minutes on a treadmill to try to shred some weight, but is that the most effective way? No.. you can do 10 minutes of kettle bells swing and have the same or better effect. As far as eating.. this program exclude cheese , you can eat beans, green vegetables, and meat.. but what I like most is that you are allow to fall of the wagon and have a cheat day once a week.. you need to confuse your body cell so that you don't reach a plastous.. there is way more to this than just what I'm trying to explain .. and the reason why I'm telling people to read the book or do more research is not because I want people to change system or to advertise the 4 hours body but it is cuz I believe that before people have so strong opinions they need to know what they are taking about it.. At the end of the day it works for me and that's all it matter
No one is attacking you its simply being pointed out the program literally promises impossible things. Not sure why you want to let the blame fall on the program for the hard work YOU did. Somehow you came into a caloric deficit and that works for you. Cool. Good. However im super curious about every other part it "promises" You have only spoke of weight loss, And from what im seeing the program offers alot more. Thats why its a program. So im honestly curious why your so for it if your not seeing all the impossible things it promises happening- because...you know...impossible. please touch on this program and its effects on its other promises, From your experience5 -
Sometimes following a set program can be helpful, especially if you're new to diet/fitness.
I encourage you to hang around the forum and read lots of threads on various topics. You may realise that most of what the book mentions is unnecessary, and a lot of it is a load of bunk. The people questioning you are applying their understanding of diet and fitness accumulated over time and through their own trial and error.
Question everything you know, including what you believe in... It really is the only way to learn and develop your knowledge.6 -
I Googled. Woah:
Synopsis: "Do you want to lose fat, double testosterone, get the perfect posterior or give your partner a fifteen-minute female orgasm? Whatever your physical goal, The 4-Hour Body eclipses every other health manual by sharing the best kept secrets in the latest science and research to provide new strategies for redesigning the human body. And you don't need to exhaust yourself. International bestselling author, Timothy Ferriss, helps you reach your true genetic potential in 3-6 months with a commitment of less than four hours per week. You can pick and choose from a menu of options, from simple to extreme, for dramatic body changes."
Oh, that's so sad.
@Tuplatano I'm sorry you feel the need to fall for this sort of hype.
Losing weight is hard. There is no quick fix.
Luckily, you asked in here, and have access to the best information about weight loss online. Read the Helpful Posts at the top of this forum:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300319/most-helpful-posts-general-health-fitness-and-diet-must-reads
I been doing it for a while and I have very positive results.. you are basing your opinion on a 5 minutes reading you did on Google. It is more than that and it's not promotinga quick fix, you have to read the book to understand.
Before that "5 minute Google" I studied logic and critical thinking for 18 years.
I know hype when I see it.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10202381/weight-loss-scams-and-how-to-spot-them10 -
This program makes things like apple cider vinegar, detoxes, raspberry ketones and homeopathy look absolutely sane and reasonable by comparison.
Anybody who actually believes that you can put on 34 pounds of muscle in 28 days is skipping on fluffy white clouds in fantasyland. It doesn’t matter how many hours you spend in the gym, how elite your genetics are, or how many anabolic steroids you’re taking, that ain’t happening. Not for anybody, anytime, ever. And nobody is tripling testosterone without a needle and a vial.
It’s like Tim Ferriss decided to see how much BS and woo he could stir up in a pot, jam into a book and still have people buy it. The fact that it was promoted on the Dr. Oz show is just icing on the woo cake.
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manderson27 wrote: »I understand your frustration with us but you haven't actually told us anything about what you actually did to lose the weight. Why don't you share some of this with us we really would be interested. But you can't expect us all to buy the book when we think it is a sham.
I postes this forum with the intention that anyone else who follow this program or actually knew something about it could follow each other's and offer one another support.. instead everyone here is attacking just because someone follow a different method than their. It doesn't matter what method people follow as long as it works for them and it's not a health hazard to them. And people need to respect that.
The 4 hour body system is not just about weight lost. It have many different areas about personal wellness. The area follow from the book is the one related to weight lost. And that system is just basically the same as any other low carbs programs out there like the keto, South Beach , Atkins, etc. What's is difference about the 4 hours is that is focus on the maximum effect dosage. What I mean by that? If looks at the most effective weight to lose day and to gain muscles.. example someone can go to the gym and do 45 minutes on a treadmill to try to shred some weight, but is that the most effective way? No.. you can do 10 minutes of kettle bells swing and have the same or better effect. As far as eating.. this program exclude cheese , you can eat beans, green vegetables, and meat.. but what I like most is that you are allow to fall of the wagon and have a cheat day once a week.. you need to confuse your body cell so that you don't reach a plastous.. there is way more to this than just what I'm trying to explain .. and the reason why I'm telling people to read the book or do more research is not because I want people to change system or to advertise the 4 hours body but it is cuz I believe that before people have so strong opinions they need to know what they are taking about it.. At the end of the day it works for me and that's all it matter
the thing is many people have already researched claims like these from other diets,books,etc. many of them who have done this research have backgrounds in science,physiology, molecular science and so on. so they know how the body works and what is and isnt impossibile. and yes on any diet you can have a cheat day as long as it doesnt wipe out your deficit the rest of the week. its very hard to gain muscle in a deficit of calories and it also takes time to build in a surplus of calories because your body can only do so much at a time and building muscle means it has to be broken down and it has to heal and grow to become bigger. that takes time.To grow aprreciable amounts of muscle it takes a surplus of calories and again its not going to be fast like the book claims ,its scientifically impossible even probably with steroids. Dr oz has also been proven a quack. hes a heart surgeon at best. he has been asked by the FDA and the US senate to stop pushing the claims he makes and prmoting fad diets.
believing dr oz is like getting diet info from a podiatrist. no one is attacking you or anyone else. kettle bell swings arent as wonderful as it used to be promoted as. before it used to be a big rage. you dont hear much about it anymore. as for confusing your body, your body works a certain way, you cant confuse it by eating different or working out differently. thats an old myth. reaching a plateau is normal because weight fluctuates often. a plateau(which is defined as 6-8 weeks with no loss of weight or could be gain for those trying to gain). is normal and happens but for those who hit one and cant lose for the time frame above or longer it usually is because they are eating more than they think. many are eating maintenance calories as dont realize it. I have had that experience before and once I started using a food scale I started losing again.
also not getting enough sleep can be disastorous in more ways than one and it can be hazardous to your health. since your body burns fat mainly at rest and repairs to your muscles happen at rest if you arent giving your body enough time to rest you are asking for injuries and illness as well.7 -
I Googled. Woah:
Synopsis: "Do you want to lose fat, double testosterone, get the perfect posterior or give your partner a fifteen-minute female orgasm? Whatever your physical goal, The 4-Hour Body eclipses every other health manual by sharing the best kept secrets in the latest science and research to provide new strategies for redesigning the human body. And you don't need to exhaust yourself. International bestselling author, Timothy Ferriss, helps you reach your true genetic potential in 3-6 months with a commitment of less than four hours per week. You can pick and choose from a menu of options, from simple to extreme, for dramatic body changes."
Oh, that's so sad.
@Tuplatano I'm sorry you feel the need to fall for this sort of hype.
Losing weight is hard. There is no quick fix.
Luckily, you asked in here, and have access to the best information about weight loss online. Read the Helpful Posts at the top of this forum:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300319/most-helpful-posts-general-health-fitness-and-diet-must-reads
I been doing it for a while and I have very positive results.. you are basing your opinion on a 5 minutes reading you did on Google. It is more than that and it's not promotinga quick fix, you have to read the book to understand.
Before that "5 minute Google" I studied logic and critical thinking for 18 years.
I know hype when I see it.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10202381/weight-loss-scams-and-how-to-spot-them
Congratulations5 -
manderson27 wrote: »This is what I found with my google search
You Will Learn
How to prevent fat gain while bingeing (X-mas, holidays, weekends)
How to increase fat-loss 300% with a few bags of ice
How Tim gained 34 pounds of muscle in 28 days, without steroids, and in four hours of total gym time
How to sleep 2 hours per day and feel fully rested
How to produce 15-minute female orgasms
How to triple testosterone and double sperm count
How to go from running 5 kilometers to 50 kilometers in 12 weeks
How to reverse “permanent” injuries
How to add 150+ pounds to your lifts in 6 months
This is one of the craziest things I have read recently.
34 pounds of muscle in 28 day and only four hours total gym time? Seriously?
Did this happen to you?
I will stick to my pregnant yak urine shakes thank you. (Joke) I just eat normal food.
This thing work.. you are judging something without trying it and just base on a small reading. You have to read the book and there is a reason why his books was in the number one best seller, there is also a reason why it he was on Dr Oz ... Don't judge a book by it cover
As if I didn't need any more convincing that it was utter woo -- being featured on Dr Oz is proof positive5 -
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Krachbummente2049 wrote: »I Googled. Woah:
Synopsis: "Do you want to lose fat, double testosterone, get the perfect posterior or give your partner a fifteen-minute female orgasm? Whatever your physical goal, The 4-Hour Body eclipses every other health manual by sharing the best kept secrets in the latest science and research to provide new strategies for redesigning the human body. And you don't need to exhaust yourself. International bestselling author, Timothy Ferriss, helps you reach your true genetic potential in 3-6 months with a commitment of less than four hours per week. You can pick and choose from a menu of options, from simple to extreme, for dramatic body changes."
Oh, that's so sad.
@Tuplatano I'm sorry you feel the need to fall for this sort of hype.
Losing weight is hard. There is no quick fix.
Luckily, you asked in here, and have access to the best information about weight loss online. Read the Helpful Posts at the top of this forum:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300319/most-helpful-posts-general-health-fitness-and-diet-must-reads
I been doing it for a while and I have very positive results.. you are basing your opinion on a 5 minutes reading you did on Google. It is more than that and it's not promotinga quick fix, you have to read the book to understand.
Hi, I'm basically just starting out myself but from every reputable source I've seen, you should stay faaar away from anything that promises you to be completely "done" and at the best possible goal you could dream of in such a short time, it's a scam. Nothing short of illegal drugs can get you something like that.
What is Short? Just because the name says 4 hour diet , it doesn't meant that you eat good for 4 hours a day though3 -
Krachbummente2049 wrote: »I Googled. Woah:
Synopsis: "Do you want to lose fat, double testosterone, get the perfect posterior or give your partner a fifteen-minute female orgasm? Whatever your physical goal, The 4-Hour Body eclipses every other health manual by sharing the best kept secrets in the latest science and research to provide new strategies for redesigning the human body. And you don't need to exhaust yourself. International bestselling author, Timothy Ferriss, helps you reach your true genetic potential in 3-6 months with a commitment of less than four hours per week. You can pick and choose from a menu of options, from simple to extreme, for dramatic body changes."
Oh, that's so sad.
@Tuplatano I'm sorry you feel the need to fall for this sort of hype.
Losing weight is hard. There is no quick fix.
Luckily, you asked in here, and have access to the best information about weight loss online. Read the Helpful Posts at the top of this forum:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300319/most-helpful-posts-general-health-fitness-and-diet-must-reads
I been doing it for a while and I have very positive results.. you are basing your opinion on a 5 minutes reading you did on Google. It is more than that and it's not promotinga quick fix, you have to read the book to understand.
Hi, I'm basically just starting out myself but from every reputable source I've seen, you should stay faaar away from anything that promises you to be completely "done" and at the best possible goal you could dream of in such a short time, it's a scam. Nothing short of illegal drugs can get you something like that.
What is Short? Just because the name says 4 hour diet , it doesn't meant that you eat good for 4 hours a day though
A month.... Training for a month is short. You'd have minimal gains in optimal conditions in that time.3
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