What nobody tells you about losing weight
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JessiBelleW wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »My clothing keeps getting longer. With less material being taken up by girth, one of my shirts is nearly long enough to wear as a (very short) skirt, and I am nearly tripping over the bottoms of my stretch pants. Almost time for new cloths.
Wheee, shopping!
I hate shopping. I'm hopping my pants will stay on until January. I might have to pull out a bungee cord to use as a belt.
Do it online! use the sizing chart and a tape measure to figure out what size you are and then order that and the next size down. Most places will throw in free delivery if you spend more than a certain amount (usually $50) and then you can shop from the comfort of your sofa and try everything on at your leisure. Whatever doesn't fit you can just send back!
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Not sure why y’all put all the woo’s on my post about autopaghy I posted on Nov 21st.
It sure beats the alternative of surgery to get rid of excess skin.
The 2016 Nobel prize in physiology (medicine) went to the Japanese Dr Yoshinori Ohsumi who has spent decades in this study. You can read this New York Times article which is credible in news like this. Medical journals and even Wikipedia explain it very well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/04/science/yoshinori-ohsumi-nobel-prize-medicine.html
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Dr. Jason Fung is a Canadian nephrologist and is one of the most renouned doctors promoting structured fasting. He runs an actual practice in a hospital in Toronto. He has had outstanding success treating disease caused by being over weight.
He’s a world-leading expert on intermittent fasting and low carb, especially for treating people with type 2 diabetes. He has written three best-selling health books and he co-founded the Intensive Dietary Management program.
A graduate from the University of Toronto who completed his residency at the University of California, Los Angeles. He lives and works in Toronto, Canada
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Dr Eric Berg, is a chiropractor who specializes in Health Ketosis™ and Intermittent Fasting. His clients have included senior officials in the U.S. government and the Justice Department, ambassadors, medical doctors, high-level executives of prominent corporations, scientists, engineers, professors, and other clients from all walks of life. Currently Dr. Berg no longer practices, but does full time education through social media, videos and conventions.
He is the author of The 7 Principles of Fat Burning, published by KB Publishing in January 2011 and the new edition called The New Body Type Guide in 2018. In addition, Eric Berg is widely published in trade magazines, including Chiropractic Today and The American Chiropractor, and in consumer publications such as First for Women, Men’s Exercise, New Beauty, Upscale and Let’s Live. Dr. Berg has trained chiropractors, physicians and allied healthcare practitioners in his methods, and to date he has trained over 2,500 healthcare professionals.
He has been an active member of the Endocrinology Society, on the advisory panel for the Health Science Institute, and has worked as a past part-time adjunct professor at Howard University. As a leader in natural health and food coaching, Eric Berg has appeared on many radio and television shows, including ABC, CBS, and as a monthly host on Channel 8’s Sports Talk. He has also had his own radio health show on WOL in 2005.
You will be hearing more about autophagy as more research becomes available in this exciting field.
It is awesome to see medical information become available so quickly today.
This is truly what ‘nobody tells you about losing weight’ because the medical field has promoted something different for the last 50 years and these 3 doctors discuss that aspect of medicine as well.
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Autophagy is certainly a thing but there's no evidence it has anything to do with loose skin after dieting. Fung is a well known quack and woo peddlar.14
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rheddmobile wrote: »Autophagy is certainly a thing but there's no evidence it has anything to do with loose skin after dieting. Fung is a well known quack and woo peddlar.
Dr Berg has also fallen into disrepute. As for our Nobel prize winner, his work is with yeast. The science is in it's infancy, and corrupted by people trying to sell stuff.8 -
This is one of the most inspiring threads I have read!
I gained a little over 20pounds 10_12kgs) last winter by eating a lot of junk food and being less active, even though I was in good shape. And being a shortie with a thyroid dysfunction really made the weight pop, I was like a moving meatball. Today, 3 months after signing up here I have lost 12 pounds for sure (havent stepped on a scale for two months' i think I may have lost some more). So this is what I feel..
-How exercise makes your body look awesome even though the scale disagrees
-How terrible I feel when I skip exercises (only did it once. I exercise everyday, even if its for 30 minutes)
-How my partner looked at me the first time I took off my clothes in front of him afyer working my butt off.
-How good it feels to check myself out. I stretched my arm yesterday in front of a mirror and I say muscles, sculpted and pronounced.
-How easier it gets to do those exercises and wanting to do more
-How I crave junk food but I really dont want them since everytime I try I feel bloated and my skin breaks out. ( the only thing I cant say no to is cinema popcorn- I just share a small one with my partner instead of eating a big bucket on my own)
-How great it feels to choose healthy food when eating out, because you genuinely enjoy them.
-Having to buy new pants every month
-How gaining muscle and building up your metabolism allows you to eat more! I now eat healthy almost every two hours instead of skipping unhealthy meals to avoid calories
Lastly.. The only way to lose the weight was to educate myself, understand what I am eating and putting my health first. Lifestyle change over calorie counting!
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Vonny198334 wrote: »Mexicangreensalsa wrote: »Vonny198334 wrote: »JessiBelleW wrote: »Vonny198334 wrote: »dhiammarath wrote: »No one told me that I would be afraid to go into stores. Afraid that the ladies would be side-eyeing me wonder if I really belonged in that store. No one told me that clothes shopping could be just as traumatic at a smaller size as it had at larger, only being mostly in my head. I'm sure no one is paying attention to me, but... BUT MAYBE THEY ARE.
No one told me I'd still encounter a store not having my size... except the other way around. Not enough smaller sizes and some of the things I wanted only came in a size that was too large.
I still can't bring myself to shop by myself like an adult because I'm afraid it will be an epic failure. I stare in stores like they are an impossibility. Someday, I hope to cross this mental hurdle.
Identify with this a fair bit!
Amazing how smaller sizes are sold out & when I shop for clothes I do think when I'm pulling out these items (that are less than half the size I used to need) that anyone nearby might be thinking "pffft, who's she trying to kid??" 😆
Do tend to feel like an imposter & even when the label says small or size 8/10/12 (pearshape!) I just tell myself it's vanity sizing.
My lovely hubs says "It probably IS vanity sizing...you should've just squished yourself into these clothes when you were a size 22, no need to have lost any weight cos...they aren't REALLY those sizes 😏"
Fair point babe...fair point 🤣
We'll both get there on our collective emotional rollercoasters...we always do in the end, right? ❤️Vonny198334 wrote: »dhiammarath wrote: »No one told me that I would be afraid to go into stores. Afraid that the ladies would be side-eyeing me wonder if I really belonged in that store. No one told me that clothes shopping could be just as traumatic at a smaller size as it had at larger, only being mostly in my head. I'm sure no one is paying attention to me, but... BUT MAYBE THEY ARE.
No one told me I'd still encounter a store not having my size... except the other way around. Not enough smaller sizes and some of the things I wanted only came in a size that was too large.
I still can't bring myself to shop by myself like an adult because I'm afraid it will be an epic failure. I stare in stores like they are an impossibility. Someday, I hope to cross this mental hurdle.
Identify with this a fair bit!
Amazing how smaller sizes are sold out & when I shop for clothes I do think when I'm pulling out these items (that are less than half the size I used to need) that anyone nearby might be thinking "pffft, who's she trying to kid??" 😆
Do tend to feel like an imposter & even when the label says small or size 8/10/12 (pearshape!) I just tell myself it's vanity sizing.
My lovely hubs says "It probably IS vanity sizing...you should've just squished yourself into these clothes when you were a size 22, no need to have lost any weight cos...they aren't REALLY those sizes 😏"
Fair point babe...fair point 🤣
We'll both get there on our collective emotional rollercoasters...we always do in the end, right? ❤️dhiammarath wrote: »No one told me that I would be afraid to go into stores. Afraid that the ladies would be side-eyeing me wonder if I really belonged in that store. No one told me that clothes shopping could be just as traumatic at a smaller size as it had at larger, only being mostly in my head. I'm sure no one is paying attention to me, but... BUT MAYBE THEY ARE.
No one told me I'd still encounter a store not having my size... except the other way around. Not enough smaller sizes and some of the things I wanted only came in a size that was too large.
I still can't bring myself to shop by myself like an adult because I'm afraid it will be an epic failure. I stare in stores like they are an impossibility. Someday, I hope to cross this mental hurdle.
Maybe for now you can order off of the internet? Most places have free returns and if you use a tape measure to measure yourself you should be able to get pretty accurate wig sizes
Very much a fan of internet shopping!! Sometimes it's nice to go for a wee wander, see what's there & try things outside your usual style though. Clothes shopping is like a whole new world now 😮Mexicangreensalsa wrote: »Vonny198334 wrote: »dhiammarath wrote: »No one told me that I would be afraid to go into stores. Afraid that the ladies would be side-eyeing me wonder if I really belonged in that store. No one told me that clothes shopping could be just as traumatic at a smaller size as it had at larger, only being mostly in my head. I'm sure no one is paying attention to me, but... BUT MAYBE THEY ARE.
No one told me I'd still encounter a store not having my size... except the other way around. Not enough smaller sizes and some of the things I wanted only came in a size that was too large.
I still can't bring myself to shop by myself like an adult because I'm afraid it will be an epic failure. I stare in stores like they are an impossibility. Someday, I hope to cross this mental hurdle.
Identify with this a fair bit!
Amazing how smaller sizes are sold out & when I shop for clothes I do think when I'm pulling out these items (that are less than half the size I used to need) that anyone nearby might be thinking "pffft, who's she trying to kid??" 😆
Do tend to feel like an imposter & even when the label says small or size 8/10/12 (pearshape!) I just tell myself it's vanity sizing.
My lovely hubs says "It probably IS vanity sizing...you should've just squished yourself into these clothes when you were a size 22, no need to have lost any weight cos...they aren't REALLY those sizes 😏"
Fair point babe...fair point 🤣
We'll both get there on our collective emotional rollercoasters...we always do in the end, right? ❤️
To some extent, it is vanity sizing. I remember reading a lot of posts on here about how US size 00 is what used to be a US size 6-8 a few decades ago.
Absolutely, very similar here in the UK too for sure!
The hubs just meant vanity sizing or no, they are half the size of the clothes I used to have to buy. Even with vanity incorporated into that he meant...stop downplaying your success, no matter what the label SHOULD say size wise, it's still a massive amount of weight to have lost. He tries to drill it into me cos for some reason, I'm always of the opinion I'm not at goal & therefore not a "real" success yet... saying the labels aren't *really* whatever size is sort of part of that if it makes sense?...totally stupid, I know, but that's my brain for you! 😆
Ohhhh, I am sorry I misunderstood what you were getting at in the post! If that is you in your photo, you have surely made astounding change no matter what the clothing size is! To go from a 22 to a 8/10/12 is huge.
Haha, it's okay, I didn't explain it very well at all so it's my fault!
It is me...though the photo needs updating, which is crazy as it feels as if I only just took it! Thanks for your kind words, it's really difficult to accept myself how I am now I'm in a place I've never been before, even though there's so much "proof" of my loss so far.
Couple of weeks ago hubs & I took photos that both amazed & amused us no end! (so sorry to anyone who has seen this in the NSV thread already) Was a helpful step towards the neverending "acceptance" thing though...
This is both of us in a pair of jeans I used to wear up to August 2017. They are a UK size 22 so I think that makes them US 18/20? (The sizing conversions say different things!)
They've got no stretch in them at all & although slack on the waist there was a time they were uncomfortably tight on my thighs....now we both fit into them with the button & zip done up!! I've been obese nearly my entire life & the smallest I'd been was when I was 18...probably 2 sizes bigger than I am now so the whole thing takes SO much getting used to 😂...not sure I ever will 100%!
Sure this is something so many of us struggle with & I'm sure folk who have had less weight to lose could easily feel the same way too. Always amazes me how much of a rollercoaster it can be on the emotions & how I've never personally met anyone outside of MFP who understands that... absolutely love reading these forums ...so comforting to know you're far from alone in discovering things noone told you about!❤️
I just want to see the video of you two getting in these LMAO!13 -
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but again...how VERY good it feels to come outta one's shell and quite frankly LIVE again. I'm smiling and laughing so much more now that I'm slimmer and trimmer (and looking and feeling so much better inside and out) and it feel GREAT!!!! When I was obese and overweight, I tended to be more of a "stick in the mud", if you will--far more, ummmm....mean/impatience and just hardhearted then I am now. I'm much more "chill" and eager (as opposed to being a "Debbie downer" and not wanting to hang out and get out of the house hardly any and no longer "scared/fearful/irritated to have fun and get involved in more things that I used to avoid (like shopping, sight-seeing, being more active in general being slimmer, than when I was obese and overweight--when I was obese/overweight, I just wanted to "bum around" in the house all the time, almost totally avoiding getting ooout and a booot big time--NO MORE.
It feels soooooooooooooo GOOD to no longer be the "fat" friend or family member--so GOOD!!!!!!!32 -
rheddmobile wrote: »Autophagy is certainly a thing but there's no evidence it has anything to do with loose skin after dieting. Fung is a well known quack and woo peddlar.nutmegoreo wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »Autophagy is certainly a thing but there's no evidence it has anything to do with loose skin after dieting. Fung is a well known quack and woo peddlar.
Dr Berg has also fallen into disrepute. As for our Nobel prize winner, his work is with yeast. The science is in it's infancy, and corrupted by people trying to sell stuff.
Serious?
Cells work the same in every organism. It’s basic structure. Basic science.
They teach Bio101 using yeast cells to explain what’s happening in the body to every student in high school and college.
The corruption is in all the fads over the last 50 years.
There is no money in fasting. No product to sell.
So whatever your bias stems from, it needs to adjust away from the bad science we have been fed, things like the common misconception that minor fasting will eat muscle... not even close.
I think I will listen to these people who have been studying this for decades even down to the cellular level and the most renouned people in the world giving this Nobel prize to actually create this valid field (which by the way is just the science behind our internal natural selection process and how our bodies handle a lack of resources).
It is common sense and the next generation will think everyone was so ignorant not to see it plain as day... kind of like we think about the flat earth beliefs centuries ago.
And if you think men with this amount of professional credentials in their bios are quacks, I challenge you to put up yours against theirs.
It must be an incredible resume’
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How wonderful your skin and hair looks with the right nutrients.13
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You won't have to fold in the waistband of your skirts to fit them on the hanger any more (ok, technically I knew that, having been this size before but had forgotten how nice that small thing is) 16
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You won't have to fold in the waistband of your skirts to fit them on the hanger any more (ok, technically I knew that, having been this size before but had forgotten how nice that small thing is)
I'm with you! I have those hangers with clips for my skirts and leggings and recently noticed the same thing. Shocking to be able to stop abusing the clips by forcing them to open so wide 8 -
I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned before, so I can't really say nobody has told me, but I just now realized ...
I've lost about 18 so far (from 95 to 76.9 kg), with about 2-4 kg to go. At 73 kg I would be at the same weight I was when I was 23. So far, the bulk of the weight has come from my upper body, even though the fat used to be contributed pretty evenly. Not being 23 anymore - I'm almost 51 now - it just hit me, that my body will not look the same at 51 as it did at 23, even if I have the same weight. I highly, highly doubt that the last few kg will solely come from my bottom half, even though I dearly wish they would, as they would have to, to make my body look like 23 year old me (well, plus the cellulite and wrinkles). Kinda sucks, but I guess I'll have to learn to live with it (and it certainly beats being 95 kg!).23 -
Went from around 89kg down to 75kg and felt great. A few folk said I looked 'gaunt'. However the negatives were outnumbered by the positive comments.14
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Sometimes people just blurt out that you've lost so much weight and you don't know how to react lol20
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Bus seats get bigger!14
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Bus seats get bigger!
I sat my purse in the seat beside me in the doctor's waiting room today and had room to spare.
I'll bet airplane seats are still tiny, though
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Not there yet, I’m a newby but I can’t wait to feel all of the above!6
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Your bed feels bigger.10
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Wow, today as I was going to my apartment gym one of the staff members said that I was inspiring. She wants to be consistent like me. I just about did a double take to look for who she was talking to. Who me?24
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