Anyone cutting after a bulk?
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longhorns34112 wrote: »Sard don't eat less ear more! Fire up that metabolism eating more often, greens and fruits for that shredded physique
I eat more to gain weight and put on muscle. That is how it works. My metabolism is just perfect thanks . And I'm already as shredded/lean as I want to be. I got there with hard work.7 -
longhorns34112 wrote: »I think your needing to go to the gym so often quickslyv is because your eating the extra sodium and not going hard enough in the 1.5 am session just my opinion
She trains as a powerlifter and has a coach. Her goals are not “general” fitness or getting ripped... she trains to pick up heavy assed *kitten*.
What do you train for and what are your goals? I’m a bodybuilder and I guarantee that I can cut just fine with zero fasting and zero cardio. If you find peddling your stationary bike helps you - great... but I’m a bit confused by your seeming obsession with sodium. Do you confuse water retention with fat loss?6 -
Lol ok ill just go it's obvious your getting mad thinking I'm trying to tell you what to do when I was just giving advice you said you eat more to gain weight but right before that said you don't eat to lose weight so it's pretty obvious you don't even know what you want thanks for the convo I guess enjoy life7
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longhorns34112 wrote: »Lol ok ill just go it's obvious your getting mad thinking I'm trying to tell you what to do when I was just giving advice you said you eat more to gain weight but right before that said you don't eat to lose weight so it's pretty obvious you don't even know what you want thanks for the convo I guess enjoy life
I said I eat less over time to lose and eat more over time to gain (when I'm bulking).
I'm not getting mad, but I know what I am doing. I started this thread in April and have since cut down to the best physique of my life.
Nothing wrong with giving input on what you do to cut, but you are giving people advice that aren't asking for it without even knowing their goals.7 -
longhorns34112 wrote: »I think your needing to go to the gym so often quickslyv is because your eating the extra sodium and not going hard enough in the 1.5 am session just my opinion
Bwahahahahaaa!!!6 -
jseams1234 wrote: »longhorns34112 wrote: »I think your needing to go to the gym so often quickslyv is because your eating the extra sodium and not going hard enough in the 1.5 am session just my opinion
She trains as a powerlifter and has a coach. Her goals are not “general” fitness or getting ripped... she trains to pick up heavy assed *kitten*.
What do you train for and what are your goals? I’m a bodybuilder and I guarantee that I can cut just fine with zero fasting and zero cardio. If you find peddling your stationary bike helps you - great... but I’m a bit confused by your seeming obsession with sodium. Do you confuse water retention with fat loss?
Thanks for having my back while I was gone, @jseams1234!6 -
Read this comment in a different thread and thought it timely.wilson10102018 wrote: »Salt is your electrolyte. Without it really bad things happen. Like kidney failure.
Too much salt can cause water retention. If your shoes won't fit, you might want to cut back. Big deal. Also, if you are a cardiac event recovery patient, there is some evidence that lower sodium is a good thing. Other than that, all the hoopla about salt and sodium is just CLICK BAIT!6 -
And, just for fun, Brad Schoenfeld's scientific study on fasted cardio. May want to read through this, @longhorns34112.
https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-014-0054-75 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »And, just for fun, Brad Schoenfeld's scientific study on fasted cardio. May want to read through this, @longhorns34112.
https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-014-0054-7
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quiksylver296 wrote: »And, just for fun, Brad Schoenfeld's scientific study on fasted cardio. May want to read through this, @longhorns34112.
https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-014-0054-7
Ahhhh yes this is great, thanks. I've tried fasted cardio but it just doesn't work for me. The most I can do is 3 hours after eating, and even that is pushing it!3 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »And, just for fun, Brad Schoenfeld's scientific study on fasted cardio. May want to read through this, @longhorns34112.
https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-014-0054-7
Ahhhh yes this is great, thanks. I've tried fasted cardio but it just doesn't work for me. The most I can do is 3 hours after eating, and even that is pushing it!
I'm funny. I work out fasted every morning and never have an issue. But on my afternoon workouts, if I don't have some food relatively close to the time I work out, I bonk hard.0 -
edickson76 wrote: »Her last name is Buttermore.
Talk about a Freudian slip4 -
Starting 184.8
Week 1 - 182.36 -
Almost done with my cut! Yay me5
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quiksylver296 wrote: »All right. It's the first Monday of the new year. This is the day I get serious! 193.0 this morning. Under 185 by Feb 16 is goal.
Today's food is pre-logged and calories and macros are on point. Now to just stick to it!
Wooshed off my weekend excess. 191.2 this morning. At least 6.2 pounds to go in 39 days. A 556 calorie per day deficit, so about 1800-1900 calories per day is goal.5 -
I've bounced between 191.2/191.4 all week. Being a female sucks sometimes. Hopefully I'll whoosh again after I cycle.2
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Almost 3 months into this lean bulk. I’m up to about 210 but still have abs in the morning before the bloat monster ravages me.
Still a bit dubious about bulking this slow but I’ve broken a couple of sticky plateaus so I’m sticking with it. Average intake on workout days is about 3800 and a little less on rest days. Zero cardio.2 -
jseams1234 wrote: »Almost 3 months into this lean bulk. I’m up to about 210 but still have abs in the morning before the bloat monster ravages me.
Still a bit dubious about bulking this slow but I’ve broken a couple of sticky plateaus so I’m sticking with it. Average intake on workout days is about 3800 and a little less on rest days. Zero cardio.
Do you know how that 3800 compares to your TDEE? What kind of scale change/week are you targeting?0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »I've bounced between 191.2/191.4 all week. Being a female sucks sometimes. Hopefully I'll whoosh again after I cycle.
Yep, same issue.1 -
MommyLifts3 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »I've bounced between 191.2/191.4 all week. Being a female sucks sometimes. Hopefully I'll whoosh again after I cycle.
Yep, same issue.
I can only blame my stagnant weight on the calories I keep stuffing into my facehole. Despite averaging right about maintainence since 1/1 the scale has jumped up from 175 to 179 as of this morning. Highly encouraging...2 -
jseams1234 wrote: »Almost 3 months into this lean bulk. I’m up to about 210 but still have abs in the morning before the bloat monster ravages me.
Still a bit dubious about bulking this slow but I’ve broken a couple of sticky plateaus so I’m sticking with it. Average intake on workout days is about 3800 and a little less on rest days. Zero cardio.
Do you know how that 3800 compares to your TDEE? What kind of scale change/week are you targeting?
Seems to be about 2-300 above. I’m targeting about .5 a week. Some weeks no movement and some it jumps. It certainly hasn’t been steady like a normal bulk for me. I’ve actually averaged about .7 a week but that’s mostly because of the holiday excess most of us had to deal with... I put on a few extra over Christmas.
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MommyLifts3 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »I've bounced between 191.2/191.4 all week. Being a female sucks sometimes. Hopefully I'll whoosh again after I cycle.
Yep, same issue.
I can only blame my stagnant weight on the calories I keep stuffing into my facehole. Despite averaging right about maintainence since 1/1 the scale has jumped up from 175 to 179 as of this morning. Highly encouraging...
Yeah. I've been weighing and logging. It's not the facehole issue. :laugh:1 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »MommyLifts3 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »I've bounced between 191.2/191.4 all week. Being a female sucks sometimes. Hopefully I'll whoosh again after I cycle.
Yep, same issue.
I can only blame my stagnant weight on the calories I keep stuffing into my facehole. Despite averaging right about maintainence since 1/1 the scale has jumped up from 175 to 179 as of this morning. Highly encouraging...
Yeah. I've been weighing and logging. It's not the facehole issue. :laugh:
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm weighing and logging, just too much.1 -
jseams1234 wrote: »jseams1234 wrote: »Almost 3 months into this lean bulk. I’m up to about 210 but still have abs in the morning before the bloat monster ravages me.
Still a bit dubious about bulking this slow but I’ve broken a couple of sticky plateaus so I’m sticking with it. Average intake on workout days is about 3800 and a little less on rest days. Zero cardio.
Do you know how that 3800 compares to your TDEE? What kind of scale change/week are you targeting?
Seems to be about 2-300 above. I’m targeting about .5 a week. Some weeks no movement and some it jumps. It certainly hasn’t been steady like a normal bulk for me. I’ve actually averaged about .7 a week but that’s mostly because of the holiday excess most of us had to deal with... I put on a few extra over Christmas.
Holy smokes, how tall are you? I know you're a quite a bit bigger than I am but your TDEE is +1000.0 -
jseams1234 wrote: »jseams1234 wrote: »Almost 3 months into this lean bulk. I’m up to about 210 but still have abs in the morning before the bloat monster ravages me.
Still a bit dubious about bulking this slow but I’ve broken a couple of sticky plateaus so I’m sticking with it. Average intake on workout days is about 3800 and a little less on rest days. Zero cardio.
Do you know how that 3800 compares to your TDEE? What kind of scale change/week are you targeting?
Seems to be about 2-300 above. I’m targeting about .5 a week. Some weeks no movement and some it jumps. It certainly hasn’t been steady like a normal bulk for me. I’ve actually averaged about .7 a week but that’s mostly because of the holiday excess most of us had to deal with... I put on a few extra over Christmas.
Holy smokes, how tall are you? I know you're a quite a bit bigger than I am but your TDEE is +1000.
I’m 6’1. Yeah, it doesn’t really make sense to me either. I don’t weigh everything when I bulk but I certainly do when I cut. I don’t think it’s a logging issue. I am a huge fidgeter and my wife says I’m a furnace... or maybe there is truth regarding that tapeworm I’ve been accused of carrying my entire life. It’s annoying to me primarily because my requirements far exceed my actual appetite. I use a lot of liquid calories.0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »MommyLifts3 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »I've bounced between 191.2/191.4 all week. Being a female sucks sometimes. Hopefully I'll whoosh again after I cycle.
Yep, same issue.
I can only blame my stagnant weight on the calories I keep stuffing into my facehole. Despite averaging right about maintainence since 1/1 the scale has jumped up from 175 to 179 as of this morning. Highly encouraging...
Yeah. I've been weighing and logging. It's not the facehole issue. :laugh:
Same here. I'm trying to remind myself to look at the trend over a few weeks and not a few days.1 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »I've bounced between 191.2/191.4 all week. Being a female sucks sometimes. Hopefully I'll whoosh again after I cycle.
Official weigh-in this morning, 189.6. Five pounds in four weeks. Do-able.
But as my coach was so kind to point out, I'll be right at TOM for the competition and will have to plan for water weight. Ugh.3 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »I've bounced between 191.2/191.4 all week. Being a female sucks sometimes. Hopefully I'll whoosh again after I cycle.
Official weigh-in this morning, 189.6. Five pounds in four weeks. Do-able.
But as my coach was so kind to point out, I'll be right at TOM for the competition and will have to plan for water weight. Ugh.
Do you get a rebound from raising carbs? I always regain about 5 pounds the first week as I restore glycogen.
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jseams1234 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »I've bounced between 191.2/191.4 all week. Being a female sucks sometimes. Hopefully I'll whoosh again after I cycle.
Official weigh-in this morning, 189.6. Five pounds in four weeks. Do-able.
But as my coach was so kind to point out, I'll be right at TOM for the competition and will have to plan for water weight. Ugh.
Do you get a rebound from raising carbs? I always regain about 5 pounds the first week as I restore glycogen.
I'm gonna find out...
I cycle carbs anyway. Currently six days at 180 and one at 280 per week. Hopefully that keeps the rebound from being too crazy.1
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