March 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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1st - v.easy 5km (43 mins)
4th - v.easy 5km (42 mins)
Trying to ease myself back in slowly. Running feels good so I'll slowly increase my pace over the next couple of weeks.
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Yikes.. I'm a bit behind on my reading here ... I'll try to catch up...
I just popped in to ask a diet/ running question. A friend of mine has recommended intermittent fasting to try to lose weight ... But I'm starting to work towards marathon training (32 weeks away yet!) So I'm tempted to try until I get nearer to the more intensive training.... So I'm wondering if anyone here has used IF while running? Was it help or a hinderance?2 -
Fellow runners of MFP, I’ve finally got a run on the board for March! Granted, it was a walk/run and probably the slowest I’ve ever run, and that’s including while I was going c25k, but I did it! The knee/hip issue has not really improved much, so I’m booking the PT appointment. It’s looking like I’m going to postpone my half marathon to either later in the spring or the fall, depending on what the verdict is on the hip and knee. I’m super bummed, but oh well. Until I’m specifically told not to run, I’m gonna carry on this slow run/walk thing I’ve got going for short distances(5k or less). Probably not the smartest idea, but I didnt run for a week and I’m not exaggerating when I say it was one of the worst weeks I’ve ever had. Running works wonders for my mental health issues(yay depression and anxiety). My knee and hip don’t hurt more when I am running, so I’m not super concerned about making it worse.
Also, getting rid of the 80 mile goal for March. If I have to put a number on it, I’d guess 20-30 miles as a goal for the month, but my real March goal is to keep my sanity(and my hip and knee) intact.
March running
3/6: 3.1 miles
Cumulative miles: 3.1/I have no idea miles16 -
So close to 50 for the month!! Had I known, I'd have tacked on an extra quarter mile at the track or something. Darn it!
Workout In The Wind Wednesday! It's pretty darn chilly here today (for Virginia). I headed out for my workout at 10:30 am and it was ~28F with a "real feel" of 17F thanks to 15-24 mph winds. Lucky me, I got to run a track workout which means running into a headwind for what felt like 75% of the time because wind is a fickle and petty enemy. I thought up my workout last night pondering what I haven't worked on in a while, and that would be fast-than-HM paces/leg turnover. I've been practicing my HM and marathon paces but neglecting the faster stuff. So I did 1.5 miles to warm up, then three sets of 800m HMP/800m 10k pace/800m 5k pace/800 marathon pace to recover. I thought I was just a bit off on all my sets, but reviewing my splits afterwards on Garmin and Strava, I nailed them. But it was super tough with the wind and the cold. I stopped after every split to breathe through my buff and warm my lungs back up.
All in all though, it was a fun workout. I struggled, per usual, to find my 10k pace but fell into the HMP, MP and 5k paces pretty easily. It was good to get my legs moving and my lungs burning. And tomorrow is a rest day, hooray!
March miles:
3/1: 10 miles
3/2: Rest day
3/3: 17 miles
3/4: 5 miles
3/5: 6.3 + 3.5 miles
3/6: 8 miles
March total: 49.8 miles
2019 Races
March 16: Four Courts Four Miler (Goal: Fun!)
March 24: Caesar Rodney Half Marathon (Goal: PR)
April 7: Cherry Blossom 10 Miler (Goal: Sub-75)
April 28: New Jersey Marathon (Goal: BQ)
July 6: Finger Lake Fifties 50k (Goal: Finish)
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@kristinegift I'm totally down for whiskey & girl scout cookies! At one time the On CloudVenture used to be my favorite trail running shoe. It felt like I was running in slippers with great traction. I'm not sure what happened but now I find them pretty spotty. Sometimes I enjoy the shoe, sometimes I feel the "pods" too much under the ball of my feet. I used to be all in on those but now I don't know that I'd buy another pair. Strange how it would change. Even when I loved the trail shoe though, I never liked their road shoe. I don't like how the pods feel on pavement.
@7lenny7 I am not a fan of the pods on pavement either. Though apparently they have hard pods and soft/responsive pods, and I'd like to try the latter as we only stock the former type in stores unfortunately. As for the changes to the trail shoes, I think since they're still a relatively new company, they're making significant changes with each update to their shoes, which makes it hard for customers to be sure each updated model will be a perfect fit. I'm trying to make my current pair of Ventures last until my 50k in July but eeeek.... we'll see if I manage that!!
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3-1 Rest
3-2 10.5k easy
3-3 11k slow
3-4 10.5k recovery
3-5 Rest
3-6 7k slow
March Total: 39k
March Goal: 175k
Next year when you pop in here claiming your December 2019 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
Run at least 4 5k races.
Get under 30:00 and a PR for 5k.
Average at least 135k per month, which would put me over 1,000 miles for the year.
Run the Year Team: Five for Nineteen
16 degrees F; another inch of fresh snow; variable winds; and an enthusiasm level at rock bottom. Slogged my way through, but didn't enjoy it.
2019 Races:
4-13 Shine the Light 5K
6-1 Freedom 5K
6-30 Strides for Starfish 5k9 -
3/3: 2.32
3/5: 1.68
3/6: 3.05
Total: 7.059 -
Yikes.. I'm a bit behind on my reading here ... I'll try to catch up...
I just popped in to ask a diet/ running question. A friend of mine has recommended intermittent fasting to try to lose weight ... But I'm starting to work towards marathon training (32 weeks away yet!) So I'm tempted to try until I get nearer to the more intensive training.... So I'm wondering if anyone here has used IF while running? Was it help or a hinderance?
Intermittent fasting isn't really consistent with regular substantial exercise. I cringe at the very thought of a fast day coinciding with a running day.
In training mode, I need to eat more often, not less often. The trick is to not eat a whole lot every time, so I can eat mid-morning instead of going into a slump, eat lunch, eat mid-afternoon instead of going into a physical slump, etc. Obviously, many of those times for eating are not full meals.
In marathon training, this gets even more pronounced. I eat for maintenance, add back some calories for running more than usual, and still end up losing a couple of pounds over the course of a marathon training cycle. To put this in perspective, I'm trying to make my weight trend sideways.
As far as managing the hunger . . . I know I need to eat enough protein, and eat enough fat. I don't pay much attention to carbs, they pretty much take care of themselves. And I need to distinguish real hunger from boredom, stress, and social eating, just like I needed to before I was a runner.
So to lose weight while running, what to do? Track what you eat. Limit calories to maintenance. Note what satisfies you, and what doesn't. I love pizza, but it's way too expensive in calories compared to satiety to eat regularly. Marathon training can make up for a lot of mistakes in my diet, but still . . . I can't out-run my fork.13 -
Yikes.. I'm a bit behind on my reading here ... I'll try to catch up...
I just popped in to ask a diet/ running question. A friend of mine has recommended intermittent fasting to try to lose weight ... But I'm starting to work towards marathon training (32 weeks away yet!) So I'm tempted to try until I get nearer to the more intensive training.... So I'm wondering if anyone here has used IF while running? Was it help or a hinderance?
I cant comment on IF because in my opinion its just a method to reduce calories, it is not a magic diet. And some people find IF doesn't work because they binge during their "window" which doesn't give a calorie deficit. It really depends what works for YOU. Personally I can't run on and empty stomach. I usually eat my last meal/snack what ever around 7pm (if I allow myself snacks after that, I find I'm just snacking out of habit, not actual hunger, but I'm asleep by 9pm most nights). I get up at 5:30am to run, and I need a banana or something in my stomach otherwise I just don't have the energy and feel like crap. I personally would never do IF, because I prefer to eat smaller snacks more frequently. Diets are a very personal thing. But at the end of the day, to lose weight, you simply need to eat fewer calories than you use. IF is one method to do that.
As far as losing weight and training, many of us train while in calorie deficit, though tend to go into maintenance about a month out from the event, and even allow extra in the week before because you need fuel for your body to do a marathon. So you need to stock up your glycogen stores. This causes a couple of kg weight gain right before the event but helps you get through. You have to decide what is more important, a race well run (which requires fuel to achieve) or just complete, even if you feel like crap.2 -
I am so far behind in this chat it's not even funny! Yikes it's a busy start!
Thanks to the 100mile challenge I did in Feb I am now firmly in the habit of getting up early to get a run in! It's great... I actually feel brilliant and even the down days are not half as bad! I missed Monday morning as it decided to snow on Sunday night so it would have been a little icy on Monday morning... So training for the Dublin city marathon started on Tuesday!
01/03 - rest (finished the 100 mile challenge yesterday and my ankle is not happy with me so taking a bit of a rest)
02/03 - was meant to go spinning but ended up doing a load of chores instead!
03/03 - again, should have been spinning but instead ended up rearranging a few rooms and tidying the attic
04/03 - snowed last night so bit icy out!
05/03 - 3.87km/96.13km FINALLY! i honestly didn't see me getting a run in any time soon
06/03 - 4.23km/91.90km was actually nice and mild out this morning, hard to believe there were patches of ice on the pavement yesterday!
So myself and a friend have decided to join a 1000km in 2019 challenge now! So I guess given there's 10 months left I'll have to average 100km a month for the rest of the year!
Have decided that I will start training towards a marathon in October! They release more spots in July so I'm thinking I'll just start working towards it and see where I'm at by the end of June. If all is going well I'll sign up!
So, long story short, I'm in for 100km
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Morning all.
5k run this morning. Leg feels the same, no better no worse. The massage and stretches are definitely helping short term, and its less sore than a week ago, but about the same as a few days ago. Its doing my head in deciding whats up.
the strange thing, or maybe this is normal, is it feels way better AFTER my run than before. From what I've read, if it were shoes, it would feel worse after a run? I really honestly think its tight calf muscles from ramping up too fast. Or am I just trying to convince myself that? And the ache is the same no matter what shoes I wear - regular walking shoes for work, or bare feet on the beach. Actually I went for a walk last night on the beach in bare feet and that really caused it to hurt.
I think one of the reasons I'm frustrated is I really want to buy myself a new stand mixer. I do cakes as a side business from home. My current stand mixer was a cheap k-mart one that doesn't keep its speed. I currently have enough money from a couple of commissions to afford a really good, near top of the range stand mixer that should last me the rest of my life, and has good features without being over the top (basically all the things I would use, and nothing I wouldn't). BUT if my shoes are the cause, then I'll need to use some of the money toward the shoes, and get the next model down. Which is a great basic model, but doesn't have a couple of things I would really like. I don't NEED those features, I can do what I do without them, but they really make life a lot easier (scraper paddle being one of them). So because I'm an adult, I have to try and decide, more expensive mixer and wait a couple of months till I've saved enough again for new shoes and persevere with current pain levels when it may or may not be shoes causing the issues. Or be a sensible person, get the more basic model and get new shoes. I have till Tuesday to make up my mind, because the sale on the mixers ($200 off each one - best price ever on these mixers, I've checked) ends then...
Basically internet, help me adult please!4 -
I am so far behind in this chat it's not even funny! Yikes it's a busy start!
Thanks to the 100mile challenge I did in Feb I am now firmly in the habit of getting up early to get a run in! It's great... I actually feel brilliant and even the down days are not half as bad! I missed Monday morning as it decided to snow on Sunday night so it would have been a little icy on Monday morning... So training for the Dublin city marathon started on Tuesday!
01/03 - rest (finished the 100 mile challenge yesterday and my ankle is not happy with me so taking a bit of a rest)
02/03 - was meant to go spinning but ended up doing a load of chores instead!
03/03 - again, should have been spinning but instead ended up rearranging a few rooms and tidying the attic
04/03 - snowed last night so bit icy out!
05/03 - 3.87km/96.13km FINALLY! i honestly didn't see me getting a run in any time soon
06/03 - 4.23km/91.90km was actually nice and mild out this morning, hard to believe there were patches of ice on the pavement yesterday!
So myself and a friend have decided to join a 1000km in 2019 challenge now! So I guess given there's 10 months left I'll have to average 100km a month for the rest of the year!
Have decided that I will start training towards a marathon in October! They release more spots in July so I'm thinking I'll just start working towards it and see where I'm at by the end of June. If all is going well I'll sign up!
So, long story short, I'm in for 100km
@Sparx_81 remind me again, if you don't mind sharing, where about's in the world are you? ETA d'oh never mind. Ireland bahaha
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March Running Totals (miles)
3/1 – rest day
3/2 – 20.05 paced run + solo miles
3/3 – 8.28 easy
3/4 – rest day
3/5 – 10.27 warmup, speed work, cool down
3/6 – 8.75 easy
March running total to date – 47.35
Nominal March mileage goal: 200 miles
Real Goals: Train well toward Boston. Cut back before St. Patrick’s Day weekend, run the 8K hard, use the half as a training race. Remain uninjured, even if it means cutting back on planned mileage.
Today's notes – We continue to have beautiful weather, for January. I got out to run about 11 AM in the heat of the day: 18° F (-8° C) with 17 mph WSW wind and very light snow falling. The roads seemed okay, so I wore road shoes and planned to finish the run before enough snow accumulated to make that an issue.
Ran a familiar route, with 1.4 miles into the teeth of the wind early on, then a residential section that was fairly sheltered, then back on major roads with a crosswind or tailwind. Late in the run, the snow picked up. That sent me out of the residential area where I wanted to finish, back into the teeth of the wind for about 500m. Then crosswind for another 400m to my driveway, and the footing was getting iffy enough that it was time to stop.
Later, the sun came back out. The snow on my driveway is melting where the sun hits it, and I don't think I'll bother with the rest. It's March. It will go away soon enough, right? Right?
For those with an interest in meteorology, light snow with a strong WSW wind means this is lake effect snow off Lake Erie. A northwest wind would mean lake effect snow off Lake Ontario. This is an important distinction, as lake effect from Ontario can be substantial, but I'm far enough from Lake Erie that any of its snow that gets this far won't accumulate much.
In related news, my daughter had told me that if I took used hand warmers, put them in a baggie and squeezed all the air out, I could get a second use out of them. I tried it today, with hand warmers that I had used Sunday. It worked, and my hands stayed warm enough that I was willing to pull out the phone for a post-run selfie. You wouldn't think this was a picture from March 6, but it is:
No issues with cold hands post-run, so either the hand warmers and 3 days off caffeine worked, or today's run wasn't long enough to create a problem. I think I'll stay off the caffeine anyway; perhaps today's run would have been long enough to create a problem, absent the other stuff I did.
2019 Races:
January 1, 2019 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY) finished in 50:55
January 5, 2019 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:48
January 12, 2019 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds 5 Mile) (Spencerport, NY) finished in 33:10
January 26, 2019 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY) 4.9 miles, finished in 32:28
February 2, 2019 USATF XC Championship, Masters 8K (Tallahassee, FL) finished in 32:53
February 9, 2019 Freezeroo #5 (Tom Brannon 8 mile) (Greece, NY) finished in 55:55
February 23, 2019 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) finished in 28:34
March 16, 2019 USATF Masters 8K Championship (Shamrock 8K) (Virginia Beach, VA)
March 17, 2019 Shamrock Half Marathon (Virginia Beach, VA)
April 13, 2019 BAA 5K (Boston, MA)
April 15, 2019 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA to Boston, MA)
April 28, 2019 USATF Masters 10K (James Joyce Ramble) (Dedham, MA)
May 19, 2019 Lilac Run 5K (Rochester, NY)
May 19, 2019 Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY)
May 25, 2019 Sunset House 5K (Rochester, NY)
November 3, 2019 TCS New York City Marathon (New York, NY)
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3/3: 3.1Km
4/3: 12.2Km
6/3: 4.0Km
Total: 19.3Km
Total to go: 48.7Km3 -
Morning all.
5k run this morning. Leg feels the same, no better no worse. The massage and stretches are definitely helping short term, and its less sore than a week ago, but about the same as a few days ago. Its doing my head in deciding whats up.
the strange thing, or maybe this is normal, is it feels way better AFTER my run than before. From what I've read, if it were shoes, it would feel worse after a run? I really honestly think its tight calf muscles from ramping up too fast. Or am I just trying to convince myself that? And the ache is the same no matter what shoes I wear - regular walking shoes for work, or bare feet on the beach. Actually I went for a walk last night on the beach in bare feet and that really caused it to hurt.
I think one of the reasons I'm frustrated is I really want to buy myself a new stand mixer. I do cakes as a side business from home. My current stand mixer was a cheap k-mart one that doesn't keep its speed. I currently have enough money from a couple of commissions to afford a really good, near top of the range stand mixer that should last me the rest of my life, and has good features without being over the top (basically all the things I would use, and nothing I wouldn't). BUT if my shoes are the cause, then I'll need to use some of the money toward the shoes, and get the next model down. Which is a great basic model, but doesn't have a couple of things I would really like. I don't NEED those features, I can do what I do without them, but they really make life a lot easier (scraper paddle being one of them). So because I'm an adult, I have to try and decide, more expensive mixer and wait a couple of months till I've saved enough again for new shoes and persevere with current pain levels when it may or may not be shoes causing the issues. Or be a sensible person, get the more basic model and get new shoes. I have till Tuesday to make up my mind, because the sale on the mixers ($200 off each one - best price ever on these mixers, I've checked) ends then...
Basically internet, help me adult please!
Get the better mixer that will last. The shoes are a question mark, but if you are investing in one-in-a-lifetime professional equipment, don't go for the lesser model if you don't have to. You said the nicer model has all the things you would use and nothing you wouldn't. I say that's the sensible option, not the step-down that you might end up wanting to upgrade the next time you have the cash.
ETA: I missed the bit about the mixers being on sale. Not even a question for me - buy the mixer!9 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »Morning all.
5k run this morning. Leg feels the same, no better no worse. The massage and stretches are definitely helping short term, and its less sore than a week ago, but about the same as a few days ago. Its doing my head in deciding whats up.
the strange thing, or maybe this is normal, is it feels way better AFTER my run than before. From what I've read, if it were shoes, it would feel worse after a run? I really honestly think its tight calf muscles from ramping up too fast. Or am I just trying to convince myself that? And the ache is the same no matter what shoes I wear - regular walking shoes for work, or bare feet on the beach. Actually I went for a walk last night on the beach in bare feet and that really caused it to hurt.
I think one of the reasons I'm frustrated is I really want to buy myself a new stand mixer. I do cakes as a side business from home. My current stand mixer was a cheap k-mart one that doesn't keep its speed. I currently have enough money from a couple of commissions to afford a really good, near top of the range stand mixer that should last me the rest of my life, and has good features without being over the top (basically all the things I would use, and nothing I wouldn't). BUT if my shoes are the cause, then I'll need to use some of the money toward the shoes, and get the next model down. Which is a great basic model, but doesn't have a couple of things I would really like. I don't NEED those features, I can do what I do without them, but they really make life a lot easier (scraper paddle being one of them). So because I'm an adult, I have to try and decide, more expensive mixer and wait a couple of months till I've saved enough again for new shoes and persevere with current pain levels when it may or may not be shoes causing the issues. Or be a sensible person, get the more basic model and get new shoes. I have till Tuesday to make up my mind, because the sale on the mixers ($200 off each one - best price ever on these mixers, I've checked) ends then...
Basically internet, help me adult please!
Get the better mixer that will last. The shoes are a question mark, but if you are investing in one-in-a-lifetime equipment, don't go for the lesser model if you don't have to. You said the nicer model has all the things you would use and nothing you wouldn't. I say that's the sensible option, not the step-down that you might end up wanting to upgrade the next time you have the cash.
I second this. You're not entirely sure the shoes are the issue and from what you've said (and my own experience) I would lean far more towards the cause being tight muscles and ramping up too fast. Plus, I vaguely remember these are shoes you've worn before, albeit a new 'edition' of them? Not entirely new brand or model or anything? So I would have thought it would be strange for them to cause such big issues.
Plus you know you will regret not getting the mixer you really want in the long run.
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eleanorhawkins wrote: »MegaMooseEsq wrote: »Morning all.
5k run this morning. Leg feels the same, no better no worse. The massage and stretches are definitely helping short term, and its less sore than a week ago, but about the same as a few days ago. Its doing my head in deciding whats up.
the strange thing, or maybe this is normal, is it feels way better AFTER my run than before. From what I've read, if it were shoes, it would feel worse after a run? I really honestly think its tight calf muscles from ramping up too fast. Or am I just trying to convince myself that? And the ache is the same no matter what shoes I wear - regular walking shoes for work, or bare feet on the beach. Actually I went for a walk last night on the beach in bare feet and that really caused it to hurt.
I think one of the reasons I'm frustrated is I really want to buy myself a new stand mixer. I do cakes as a side business from home. My current stand mixer was a cheap k-mart one that doesn't keep its speed. I currently have enough money from a couple of commissions to afford a really good, near top of the range stand mixer that should last me the rest of my life, and has good features without being over the top (basically all the things I would use, and nothing I wouldn't). BUT if my shoes are the cause, then I'll need to use some of the money toward the shoes, and get the next model down. Which is a great basic model, but doesn't have a couple of things I would really like. I don't NEED those features, I can do what I do without them, but they really make life a lot easier (scraper paddle being one of them). So because I'm an adult, I have to try and decide, more expensive mixer and wait a couple of months till I've saved enough again for new shoes and persevere with current pain levels when it may or may not be shoes causing the issues. Or be a sensible person, get the more basic model and get new shoes. I have till Tuesday to make up my mind, because the sale on the mixers ($200 off each one - best price ever on these mixers, I've checked) ends then...
Basically internet, help me adult please!
Get the better mixer that will last. The shoes are a question mark, but if you are investing in one-in-a-lifetime equipment, don't go for the lesser model if you don't have to. You said the nicer model has all the things you would use and nothing you wouldn't. I say that's the sensible option, not the step-down that you might end up wanting to upgrade the next time you have the cash.
I second this. You're not entirely sure the shoes are the issue and from what you've said (and my own experience) I would lean far more towards the cause being tight muscles and ramping up too fast. Plus, I vaguely remember these are shoes you've worn before, albeit a new 'edition' of them? Not entirely new brand or model or anything? So I would have thought it would be strange for them to cause such big issues.
Plus you know you will regret not getting the mixer you really want in the long run.
I third this.
You'll go through plenty of pairs of shoes.
Your top of the line mixer will last you a lifetime.4 -
@Avidkeo Yes! Get the mixer!
March goals: Run 100+ miles, stay healthy & keep up with marathon training plan
3/4 - dirt track 7k run
3/5 - 14.6 km run
3/6 - 32k long run
Yesterday I was questioning if I even wanted to continue marathon training. I got some encouragement from a friend, and today got up, had some coffee (I'm NOT a coffee drinker) and good breakfast, loaded up my hydration pack with snacks & drink and took off, slowly. One or more of those things worked, as it went fine... overall a steady pace, even though it was slow and included walk breaks if I noticed my HR had crossed into the watch's "red zone". Mostly I was observing to make sure I didn't get out of breath or feel like I was pushing the pace at any time, but rather aimed for a pace I felt I could maintain for hours - and I did. I guess I'll keep going.
But I'm readjusting my plan because I underestimated the route and ended up with 20 miles instead of 19. Next week will be a shorter long run, then I'll give myself leeway to shorten either the 1st or 2nd of the three 20-milers that the plan actually calls for. I don't want to overdo it and am probably very close to that line. And 4 hours is a long time for me for a training run - some would actually advise against going past certain time periods during training as there may be a rule of diminishing returns when you go too long. So I really need to take recovery seriously!
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@Avidkeo Get the good mixer! It's more sensible and adult to buy one thing that you need than a cheaper thing that isn't right and needs replaced.
Also, since you say your calves feel better after running, I have to ask: how much pain are we talking? Because some soreness after doing new work is normal. DOMS can be really uncomfortable, but it's not an injury.2
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