March 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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@quilteryoyo I'm glad your prognosis is positive. I have a counter-example to the horror stories.
The very first 5K I ran, I was 55 years old. I finished in 21 minutes even (20:59.9x), won my age group, and was ahead of everyone older than me . . . except some guy who was over 60?
Later, I learned that guy was a really good runner when he was in his prime, and had longstanding heart issues. At the time I started running, he had already had 2 heart surgeries, and came back strong enough to finish a 5K pretty fast.
Fast forward a few years, and I met him after he was coming back from his third heart surgery. At this point, he was something like 69 years old, and complaining that he felt like he was running threshold but cold barely manage an 8 minute per mile pace. We talked a bit about Boston, how many times he'd run. Told him what I needed to qualify at age 60. He was interested in what the standard was for a 70 year old.
Things didn't stand still. He's over 70 now, and went in for a fourth heart surgery. Came out, and now he's back to recovery and training. Last weekend, he ran a 5 mile race. It was slow, by his standards; something like an 11:50 per mile pace. But he was thrilled to be running again.
If I were a gambling man, I wouldn't bet against him going to Boston again some time, maybe over the age of 75.
So yeah, people do die from heart conditions. People also get heart conditions treated, sometimes with surgery, and come back to run again. The failures tell you that Bad Things could happen. But there are outstanding successes out there to tell you that Good Things could happen, too.13 -
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I am not a member so does not help me.1 -
This has been a rough week - physically and emotionally, hugely stressed. I am not where I should be in preparation for my half marathon, i am struggling to find motivation. Today is the first time I have run this week, a slow steady 5 miles on the treadmill. Not where I should be , but this week it was the best i could do. I have given up chocolate and alcohol for lent - good job as I could have seriously overindulged this week..13
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samthepanda wrote: »This has been a rough week - physically and emotionally, hugely stressed. I am not where I should be in preparation for my half marathon, i am struggling to find motivation. Today is the first time I have run this week, a slow steady 5 miles on the treadmill. Not where I should be , but this week it was the best i could do. I have given up chocolate and alcohol for lent - good job as I could have seriously overindulged this week..
Hang tough @samthepanda ! I gave up fast food for Lent, and it was basically all i had for two weeks- so way to go there!
The half... Eh... Ya know race day is exciting and ypu always can do more than you think you can, but ya might make a plan allowing yourself to incorporate structured walk breaks if needed. Is this your first half?
(I currently get winded standing in the kitchen- so you got me beat there too 😉).6 -
3/1 27.34 miles, 305 days on the run
3/2 37.59 miles
3/3 18.19 miles, crazy laps
3/4 19.57 miles
3/5 19.34 miles
3/6 19.23 miles, 310 days on the run
3/7 19.56 miles
3/8 19.49 miles
3/9 37.49 miles
3/10 14.58 miles
3/11 20.46 miles, 315 days on the run
3/12 15.35 miles
3/13 14.29 miles
3/14 3.57 miles, crazy laps
3/15 27.2 miles
3/16 27.8 miles, 320 days on the run
3/17 27.15 miles
3/18 15.11 miles
3/19 19.39 miles
3/20 15.52 miles
3/21 16.17 miles, 325 days on the run
3/22 28.23 miles8 -
3/1 = 10.5 miles (Friday morning trail run @ Brushy Creek: Deception Trail)
3/2 = 12 miles
3/3 = rest day
3/4 = 4 miles
3/5 = rest day
3/6 = 7.5 miles
3/7 = rest day
3/8 = 7.5 miles (Friday morning trail run @ McKinney Roughs Natural Area)
3/9 = 13 miles
3/10 = 10 miles
3/11 = rest day
3/12 = 3 miles
3/13 = family emergency
3/14 = family emergency
3/15 = 6.5 miles (Friday morning trail run @ Bastrop SP)
3/16 = 16 miles
3/17 = 16 miles
3/18 = rest day
3/19 = 6 miles
3/21 = walked my neurotic dog for 4.5 miles
3/20 = rest day
3/22 = 8.3 miles running Goodwater trail / 6.5 miles hiking Goodwater trail
Things I have learned from trail running Fridays:
1) Its harder and I am a really slow trail runner.
2) running down hills on trails is terrifying!!!
3) I need to bring a lot more water. I think I need a bladder running thingy?
4) The trail today cut the soles of my running shoes up. They are trashed. It was nothing but cacti and jagged limestone. I think I need trail shoes if I am going to keep doing this Friday trail run stuff.
Group question: Best trail shoe brands? Best hydration bladder thingys?
March Goal Miles 150 (& add in trail runs on Friday mornings)/ Miles to Date = 114.5 miles
Upcoming Races:
4/6 = Wanderlust Half
5/4 = Wisconsin Marathon (Mittens Challenge Part 1)
5/5 = Kalamazoo Marathon (Mittens Challenge Part 2)
6/15 = Fit Foodie 5k11 -
@amymoreorless yay! Another trail runner! For trail shoes, I think so far Mizunos are my favorite . You can see they are fairly inexpensive. I also have some others around here... @shanaber has them too.. more of a minimal drop shoe. What brand do you usually wear? Do they have a trail shoe? What kind of shoes are you looking for? @juliet3455 is a trail runner too with good shoe experience.
I haven’t heard a bad review in any hydration pack. I like orange mud, Nathan’s are good, @PastorVincent has one he loves,... just don’t buy a cheap one and I think you are good there.3 -
1st - v.easy 5km (43 mins)
4th - v.easy 5km (42 mins)
8th - v.easy 5km
11th - easy 5km (37 mins)
16th - easy 5km (36 mins)
18th - 5k (38 mins hard work)
22nd - 5k (36 mins) - knee pain for first 2k but then subsided. Need to do some more leg strengthening exercises.
Total 35 km
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amymoreorless wrote: »Things I have learned from trail running Fridays:
1) Its harder and I am a really slow trail runner.
2) running down hills on trails is terrifying!!!
3) I need to bring a lot more water. I think I need a bladder running thingy?
4) The trail today cut the soles of my running shoes up. They are trashed. It was nothing but cacti and jagged limestone. I think I need trail shoes if I am going to keep doing this Friday trail run stuff.
Group question: Best trail shoe brands? Best hydration bladder thingys?
Everyone is slower on trail, but trail is better on your body.
As for the best hydration bladder - buy far the best I have found is the Wunjo line, which is really cheap. Their most expensive model is only $60 and it comes with the bladder. PLUS we have @JessicaMcb 's discount code (she is sponsored by them)
Check them out:
https://wunjosports.com
discount code: WUNJOWOMAN183 -
No run today. Tomorrow I have 26 miles planned, then 10 or so more on Sunday but have to watch the weather and see what happens. Today was miserable and I was really glad I was not running in it. Sleet, freezing rain, well below freezing, and wind. I know someone like @7lenny7 might run it, and if I was only running for an hour, I might have attempted it, but 26? No thanks.
Hopefully, the weather is good tomorrow. I have not yet looked at the weather prediction. It is probably wrong so can not plan based on it anyways.4 -
@Elise4247 I used to run in Mizuno’s but they got too expensive. The soles wear out WAY too fast and the last time I tried to order shoes from their website I had a nightmare customer service experience. I tried to go back to New Balence but I think I kind-of hate their new Fresh Foam line... These were all road running shoes.
I bought a pair of $30 Saucony trail shoes at Academy a few months ago but they feel too wide. That’s what I wore today. They are now trashed. Sigh.... My feet are so persnickety!
@PastorVincent Thanks for the hydration bladder discount code! The ones I have been looking at are so expensive. I bought a $26 one on Amazon and used it today. The hydration thingy AND shoes are terrible now... 🙄3 -
March Running Totals (miles)
3/1 – rest day
3/2 – 20.05 paced run + solo miles
3/3 – 8.28 easy
3/4 – rest day
3/5 – 10.27 warmup, speed work, cool down
3/6 – 8.75 easy
3/7 – 8.41 warmup, MP run, cool down
3/8 – rest day
3/9 – 15.59 Around the Bay (Irondequoit)
3/10 – 12.47 easy shading to MP
3/11 – rest day
3/12 – 15.01 long intervals
3/13 – 7.31 easy
3/14 – 5.05 before dusk
3/15 – rest day
3/16 – 7.53 commute, warmup, 8K race
3/17 – 15.40 commute/warmup, half marathon, commute/cool down
3/18 – rest day
3/19 – 8.18 easy with a few strides
3/20 – 8.08 easy and MP
3/21 – 9.34 warmup, MP, cool down
3/22 – rest day
March running total to date – 159.72
Nominal March mileage goal: 200 miles
Real Goals: Train well toward Boston. Cut back before St. Patrick’s Day weekend, run the 8K hard, use the half as a training race. Remain uninjured, even if it means cutting back on planned mileage.
Today's notes – Rest day today, and just getting around to posting about yesterday's run.
Went to club practice yesterday evening. Did my warmup, talked to Coach about where I was. The plan had me down for a 15 mile workout that I did 9 days earlier. I want to get my last 20 mile run before Boston in on Saturday (tomorrow, now.) Coach asked a female member what her target was for Boston; she said 3:16. Close enough, he told us to go run 5 to 6 miles at marathon pace. I'm targeting 7:20, she's targeting 7:30, we ran twice around the big block with up and down messing with any plan to hold a stead pace. Averaged something like 7:28 for 5.7 miles, but parts of it were closer to 7:00 than I should be in the first 20 miles of Boston.
I was more wiped out than I should be by a 6 mile run at marathon pace. Some of that is that I over-reacted to underdressing for Wednesday's run, and overdressed a bit yesterday. But I think most of it is the accumulation of getting beat up by marathon training. So on my rest day today, I'm making no effort to get 10,000 steps. Tomorrow I'll set out to run 20 miles. We may have some fresh snow, though the snow today has been melting when it hits pavement.
Then next week I start easing back on the mileage, before the serious taper begins the week after that.
24 days till Boston. The mental games are starting.
2019 Races:
January 1, 2019 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY) finished in 50:55
January 5, 2019 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:48
January 12, 2019 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds 5 Mile) (Spencerport, NY) finished in 33:10
January 26, 2019 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY) 4.9 miles, finished in 32:28
February 2, 2019 USATF XC Championship, Masters 8K (Tallahassee, FL) finished in 32:53
February 9, 2019 Freezeroo #5 (Tom Brannon 8 mile) (Greece, NY) finished in 55:55
February 23, 2019 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) finished in 28:34
March 16, 2019 USATF Masters 8K Championship (Shamrock 8K) (Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 32:02
March 17, 2019 Shamrock Half Marathon (Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 1:34:21
April 13, 2019 BAA 5K (Boston, MA)
April 15, 2019 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA to Boston, MA)
April 28, 2019 USATF Masters 10K (James Joyce Ramble) (Dedham, MA)
May 19, 2019 Lilac Run 5K (Rochester, NY)
May 19, 2019 Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY)
May 25, 2019 Sunset House 5K (Rochester, NY)
June 7, 2019 Charlie McMullen Mile (Pittsford, NY)
June 16, 2019 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY)
June 29, 2019 A Country Mile at Ganondagan (5-ish mile trail) (Victor, NY)
November 3, 2019 TCS New York City Marathon (New York, NY)10 -
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
03/01/19 :::: 2.9 :::: 2.9
03/02/19 :::: 5.5 :::: 8.4
03/03/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 8.4
03/04/19 :::: 3.1 :::: 11.4
03/05/19 :::: 2.0 :::: 13.5
03/06/19 :::: 3.3 :::: 16.8
03/07/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 16.8
03/08/19 :::: 3.1 :::: 19.9
03/09/19 :::: 4.1 :::: 24.0
03/10/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 24.0
03/11/19 :::: 4.3 :::: 28.3
03/12/19 :::: 2.3 :::: 30.6
03/13/19 :::: 3.0 :::: 33.6
03/14/19 :::: 3.9 :::: 37.5
03/15/19 :::: 3.1 :::: 40.6
03/16/19 :::: 5.0 :::: 45.6
03/17/19 :::: 3.1 :::: 48.7
03/18/19 :::: 3.5 :::: 52.1
03/19/19 :::: 2.5 :::: 54.7
03/20/19 :::: 3.2 :::: 57.9
03/21/19 :::: 3.8 :::: 61.6
03/22/19 :::: 3.0 :::: 64.7
The snow in the forecast has not yet materialized but it's been cold and rainy all day. Not that I was outside much. Treadmill run this morning before circuit training - I meant to get there super early and only made it early enough to do 3 miles. But those 3 miles felt better than treadmill miles I've done recently so I felt positive about that. Still way slower than outside though.
Circuit training was another good session working on lots of upper arms - particularly pulling. While I managed 0 unassisted pull-ups, I did get over 24 using a light resistance band. I also did dead hangs and scap-ups. I wore my gloves this time and I think I'm fully convinced my plan to just "toughen up" did not work and it's much nicer to not tear my hands up every time. I think my pull-up plan is back on track - maybe a little more realistically this time and without a definite deadline (except maybe another Spartan race at the end of April, which I'm NOT committed to yet).
I think it might be a rare non-running Saturday tomorrow, or at the most a short one. The weather sounds crappy and I have a billion things to do so will swap for Sunday as my long(er) run. I am going to an indoor rock climbing expo class tomorrow though so I'm really excited to try that.
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amymoreorless wrote: »@Elise4247 I used to run in Mizuno’s but they got too expensive. The soles wear out WAY too fast and the last time I tried to order shoes from their website I had a nightmare customer service experience. I tried to go back to New Balence but I think I kind-of hate their new Fresh Foam line... These were all road running shoes.
I bought a pair of $30 Saucony trail shoes at Academy a few months ago but they feel too wide. That’s what I wore today. They are now trashed. Sigh.... My feet are so persnickety!
@PastorVincent Thanks for the hydration bladder discount code! The ones I have been looking at are so expensive. I bought a $26 one on Amazon and used it today. The hydration thingy AND shoes are terrible now... 🙄
Yeah, I was shocked at how well price the Wunjo's were. My wife and I both use the X5 Ultra. I think @MobyCarp uses the X1 or something. I forget now.
For trail shoes, I like my Altra Lone Peak 3.5 but they are NOT cheap.3 -
amymoreorless wrote: »@Elise4247 I used to run in Mizuno’s but they got too expensive. The soles wear out WAY too fast and the last time I tried to order shoes from their website I had a nightmare customer service experience. I tried to go back to New Balence but I think I kind-of hate their new Fresh Foam line... These were all road running shoes.
I bought a pair of $30 Saucony trail shoes at Academy a few months ago but they feel too wide. That’s what I wore today. They are now trashed. Sigh.... My feet are so persnickety!
@ PastorVincent Thanks for the hydration bladder discount code! The ones I have been looking at are so expensive. I bought a $26 one on Amazon and used it today. The hydration thingy AND shoes are terrible now... 🙄
Aw that’s too bad. We usually use a shoe company, roadrunner sports for shoes. They have great customer service. We do have the membership and I think even with out it they have a great return policy-can’t beat that if your shopping online. Who was in the saloman’s? Was it @rheddmobile or @katharmonic ?
Brooks is okay, they have a few trail shoes. I like the ravena and the cascadia was ok. Topo is the shoe I was trying to remember, I like them. Avoid the On clouds. They say trail, but maybe only if it’s dirt. I disliked how rocks and sticks get stuck in the pods. Annoying.
I have a few Merrill ‘s. They are alright- find I can do with a bit more cushion, but I really liked them- very light. I tried Scott -felt promising but rubbed hot spots. Let us know what you go with! Ooo shoes!3 -
11 miles 5his evening. Supposed to rain ALL DAY Saturday, so decided to get out for a few tonight, and maybe do a few more miles Sunday. Was a nice easy run, and a couple sprints crossing busy streets was kinda fun. Hit 5:14/mi.
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amymoreorless wrote: »@Elise4247 I used to run in Mizuno’s but they got too expensive. The soles wear out WAY too fast and the last time I tried to order shoes from their website I had a nightmare customer service experience. I tried to go back to New Balence but I think I kind-of hate their new Fresh Foam line... These were all road running shoes.
I bought a pair of $30 Saucony trail shoes at Academy a few months ago but they feel too wide. That’s what I wore today. They are now trashed. Sigh.... My feet are so persnickety!
@ PastorVincent Thanks for the hydration bladder discount code! The ones I have been looking at are so expensive. I bought a $26 one on Amazon and used it today. The hydration thingy AND shoes are terrible now... 🙄
Aw that’s too bad. We usually use a shoe company, roadrunner sports for shoes. They have great customer service. We do have the membership and I think even with out it they have a great return policy-can’t beat that if your shopping online. Who was in the saloman’s? Was it @rheddmobile or @katharmonic ?
Brooks is okay, they have a few trail shoes. I like the ravena and the cascadia was ok. Topo is the shoe I was trying to remember, I like them. Avoid the On clouds. They say trail, but maybe only if it’s dirt. I disliked how rocks and sticks get stuck in the pods. Annoying.
I have a few Merrill ‘s. They are alright- find I can do with a bit more cushion, but I really liked them- very light. I tried Scott -felt promising but rubbed hot spots. Let us know what you go with! Ooo shoes!
@amymoreorless and @elise4270 Thanks for the trail shoes conversation! I also want to try out some trail running shoes, and this gives me some good directions.3 -
Who was in the saloman’s? Was it @rheddmobile or @katharmonic ?
I'm not a trail runner (yet) but I just got Salomon Speedcross4 before my Spartan race. I have only worn them 4 or 5 times now and most of that hiking in the snow rather than running, but I really like them so far. I'm really interested in trying them for more trail running and hiking this spring and summer. The traction seems fantastic. There was discussion in this thread previously that they are a narrow shoe and they definitely have a narrower toe box than my Brooks or Saucony shoes but again, so far so good for me.1 -
amymoreorless wrote: »@Elise4247 I used to run in Mizuno’s but they got too expensive. The soles wear out WAY too fast and the last time I tried to order shoes from their website I had a nightmare customer service experience. I tried to go back to New Balence but I think I kind-of hate their new Fresh Foam line... These were all road running shoes.
I bought a pair of $30 Saucony trail shoes at Academy a few months ago but they feel too wide. That’s what I wore today. They are now trashed. Sigh.... My feet are so persnickety!
@ PastorVincent Thanks for the hydration bladder discount code! The ones I have been looking at are so expensive. I bought a $26 one on Amazon and used it today. The hydration thingy AND shoes are terrible now... 🙄
Aw that’s too bad. We usually use a shoe company, roadrunner sports for shoes. They have great customer service. We do have the membership and I think even with out it they have a great return policy-can’t beat that if your shopping online. Who was in the saloman’s? Was it @rheddmobile or @katharmonic ?
Brooks is okay, they have a few trail shoes. I like the ravena and the cascadia was ok. Topo is the shoe I was trying to remember, I like them. Avoid the On clouds. They say trail, but maybe only if it’s dirt. I disliked how rocks and sticks get stuck in the pods. Annoying.
I have a few Merrill ‘s. They are alright- find I can do with a bit more cushion, but I really liked them- very light. I tried Scott -felt promising but rubbed hot spots. Let us know what you go with! Ooo shoes!
@amymoreorless and @elise4270 Thanks for the trail shoes conversation! I also want to try out some trail running shoes, and this gives me some good directions.
Let us know what you get and how you like them. I have that 40$ off UA if I spend 100. I thought about some shoes. No idea if they have trail shoes...
Wonder if I buy shoes, I can run? (Build it and they will come? Wear them and you can run? No?) I tried.
Thanks again @katharmonic ! I like thought of a the slightly narrower toe box.
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Meant to do a longer run today but I was feeling real lazy 🤷♀️
March running
3/6: 3.1 miles
3/8: 3.1 miles
3/10: 3.8 miles
3/11: 1 mile
3/12: 1 mile
3/13: 1 mile
3/14: 2.4 miles
3/15: 1.2 miles
3/17: 3.6 miles
3/19: 1.3 miles
3/20: 1.5 miles
3/22: 2 miles
Cumulative miles: 25 miles/I have no idea miles2
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