May 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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lporter229 wrote: »@7Lenny7- Good luck to your daughter and your neighbor. Sounds like they had some good coaching, so they should both do great!
@PastorVincent - That statistic blows my mind! 20 percent??? I tend to wait until last minute to sign up for races because I worry about things that can happen in the meantime, but if I do sign up for a race, you better believe I am going to participate in it, even if I have to walk!
Yeah, I have DNS'd like 2 or 3 races ever. If I recall right they were all for unexpected health issues. Oh, one was for a car accident. But once I pay, I make a good effort to show.2 -
I wasn't able to get in to the doctor yesterday. I have an appointment on Monday at 9:30. I was told to rest and ice until then. She said I could wrap it if hurt when I walked and to stay off of it as much as I can. My ankle feels ok most of the time, but I do feel some tenderness when I put on certain shoes. I'm really disappointed about missing my long run this weekend, but I am trying to be smart. I'm also trying to not be too disappointed if I miss the Half on the 18th and I'm trying to prepare myself to accept that that is a strong possibility. I'm glad it isn't my first half. I think that would have been worse. But it is a really nice, well organized race and this would be my 3rd year running it. I ran the 5K in 2017, last year was the first time they added the HM.
All this talk of picking up packets and not racing has me thinking. I don't know if I want to pick up my packet if I'm unable to race. But I did pay for the race, so I should at least get a shirt. But would I want the shirt that would only remind me that I didn't get to race? Last year they had tech shirts which were nice because I can actually run in it, but the shirts also ran really big so I don't wear that shirt very often. I'm really going to need something to keep me busy this weekend and keep my mind from worrying about it. I have a baby quilt I need to finish tying and maybe I'll drag out some more of my kid's old t-shirts from high school and start another t-shirt quilt.10 -
@kgirlhart- Sorry to hear you are dealing with a bum ankle. If you are unable to run your half, can you defer to next year? That would take care of the packet pick-up dilemma. If not, maybe you could do the 5K or even just walk it? That way you wouldn't feel so bad about wearing the shirt.1
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DANG. Ed Whitlock has been killing it for over a decade.
Marathon Wold Records
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Newbie here to ... I always feel like I am about to die when I run... is that normal? So... I will start with 40miles... is there somewhere which explains how it all works.. I get nervous going for a run so want to get over that.8
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Newbie here to ... I always feel like I am about to die when I run... is that normal? So... I will start with 40miles... is there somewhere which explains how it all works.. I get nervous going for a run so want to get over that.
I highly suggest if you are just starting out you google "Couch to 5k" and start one of those programs. That is really the best way for most people to get started.3 -
@lporter Thanks. I hadn't even thought about that. I'm not sure if there is an option to defer or switch to the 5K, but I will look into it. My appointment on Monday is with a runner. She is running the HM on the 18th (she actually was the overall winner of it last year). I feel like she will be able to tell me if I should run or not, and if maybe doing the 5K is a better option. They don't allow only walking on the HM course, but they do allow run/walk so that might be an option too. I'm just trying to stay optimistic. I waver between thinking there is something seriously wrong, and there is nothing wrong at all and I'm skipping my long run for nothing. I do think that I'm in good enough shape that one missed long run isn't going to make that much of a difference. And I really want to be able to continue running so I don't want to make things worse if there is a problem.5
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Still doing the little taper for my first half marathon here, and I had planned 3 early morning short runs as part of that. Yesterday I decided that I didn’t want my last pre-race run to feel not great (I’m not a fan of running in the early morning yet), so I switched it to the afternoon and it was much nicer. Now to wait for Sunday! I’ll drive to Vancouver tomorrow morning to get to the Expo at a reasonable time, then have an early dinner with friends there planned. Still haven’t quite figured out the transportation logistics—my family was supposed to come but are bailing because of other commitments, so I’ll have to get myself around, but my hotel is reasonably close to the start line at least..
May goal: 70 mi
5/1 2 mi
5/2 2 mi
May total: 4 mi
2019 Races:
3/16 Kirkland Shamrock Run 5K
4/13 Mud & Chocolate 4.5 mi trail run
5/5 Vancouver BMO Half Marathon
5/12 The Color Run 5K
5/18 Your Canyon for a Day 35 mi Bike Tour, Yakima
6/16 Monroe Bubble Run 5K
7/21 Seafair Triathlon?
8/11 Lake Union 10K?7 -
Newbie here to ... I always feel like I am about to die when I run... is that normal? So... I will start with 40miles... is there somewhere which explains how it all works.. I get nervous going for a run so want to get over that.
The main thing that stopped me from feeling like I was about to die when I was a new runner was running much more slowly! Good luck.. if you haven’t tried something like couch to 5K, you might consider it. People seem to find it really helpful!
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@PastorVincent I have used these things called Bib Boards and you can find them at most of the expos. Usually at a stand that carries lots of different accessories, they don't typically have a booth just for them. They work ok but I am not convinced that they are really any better than safety pins. They are cute and have cute sayings though. I also have the SPI belt that @mobycarp mentioned. I can wear it alone for the bibs and have a pouch for my phone or add on water bottles. I don't use it much any more as I am not fond of having to have something around my waist.
@kgirlhart - I hope your ankle feels better!! Link @lporter229 said I would try to defer. I was able to do that with the Surf City HM this year when I had the stress fracture and couldn't run.
And @PastorVincent, 20% DNS sounds incredibly high! I am surprised that is the industry standard - wow! I know the only way I have DNS'd was when I absolutely couldn't run because of injury. For Surf City I waited until the last minute to defer hoping the fracture in my foot would miraculously mend and I would be able to run/walk it somehow. I hate leaving that kind of money on the table! Too expensive for a shirt! Reading the article on the Pittsburgh races now makes me want to make it a destination HM. My husband will love it since his family is from around there - actually mine was too a couple of generations ago.
@Shepeess - If you feel like you are about to die when you run you are trying to go to fast. Seriously slow down until you feel like you could have a conversation or sing a song without being out of breath or huffing and puffing. The first page of the monthly discussion has information on how the challenge works. There is also a link to a whole bunch of articles on running if you want to take a look at those. Alternatively or additionally you are welcome to ask questions here. We have runners of all levels who can help! Also don't be nervous - we all had to start at some point even if it was just slowly running to the next street light
You'll get there! Oh and the C25K (Couch to 5K) program is great even if you never want to run a 5k and just use it to get started running.
I am hoping to get out for a run here in a bit. I am having an eye problem and have an appointment with the ophthalmologist later this afternoon. Trying to decide if I should run or not. I was going to run my longer run today and a short run tomorrow and then taper next week up to my HM on the 11th.4 -
And @PastorVincent, 20% DNS sounds incredibly high! I am surprised that is the industry standard - wow! I know the only way I have DNS'd was when I absolutely couldn't run because of injury. For Surf City I waited until the last minute to defer hoping the fracture in my foot would miraculously mend and I would be able to run/walk it somehow. I hate leaving that kind of money on the table! Too expensive for a shirt! Reading the article on the Pittsburgh races now makes me want to make it a destination HM. My husband will love it since his family is from around there - actually mine was too a couple of generations ago.
It is a great race. Lots of energy and you can even run with the greyhounds (retired racing dogs) at mile 18 if you like and decide to do the full instead of the half.
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@Avidkeo congrats on the job! I tend to be skeptic too. I want science & studies, not anecdotes and promises. I want to understand the physiological reasons it works. On the other had, when I started taking glucosamine for my knee it was not backed by studies, but through personal testing over a long time, I've come to believe it helps. I agree that benefits could be the result of the placebo affect, or massaging for topicals. After my 50K on the 18th of May, assuming equal pain in my quads, I plan on rubbing CBD cream on one quad and regular cream on the other to see if I notice a difference. While it is unregulated, reputable manufacturers do submit their products for independent testing.
@katharmonic I love the Spartan photos! Such a badass!
@PastorVincent good luck to you and your wife on your races!
@kgirlhart I hope you get your ankle sorted out soon!
@Shepeess try running slower. Much slower. You'll be able to run longer and more comfortably.
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PastorVincent wrote: »Tonight is the expo for the Pittsburgh Marathon. Are any MFP'ers going to be there? I know a couple of you are running. My wife and I are planning to be there around 5pm. Might drag my 15 year old along. He is over 6 foot now so he is good for looking over people and finding things.
I am hoping to find those thingies that let you wear a bib without pins. Do not know what they are called or who makes them so it probably is a futile hope, but without hope, what do you have?
The ones I use are called Bib ups. I like them because you can slide them around a little after getting them in place, and they don’t leave marks on clothing, unlike the ones with the little locking divot shape. They are much easier to get on with a second person helping. They stay on well UNLESS you bend over a car or another large metal object to do something, in which case the top will stick to the car and the bottom will fall off.2 -
Newbie here to ... I always feel like I am about to die when I run... is that normal? So... I will start with 40miles... is there somewhere which explains how it all works.. I get nervous going for a run so want to get over that.
The main thing that stopped me from feeling like I was about to die when I was a new runner was running much more slowly! Good luck.. if you haven’t tried something like couch to 5K, you might consider it. People seem to find it really helpful!
Same. It took too long to realize that "run" and "sprint" are different... To sprint is to run, but most runs are not sprints. I went all out at first and had nothing left after about 30 seconds.4 -
May Running
5/01: 4.01 mile easy run
5/02: 3.65 mile easy run
5/03: 1.43 mile run commute
5/03: 5.80 miles - 2x600 + 3x400 + 4x200
Total: 14.89 miles
I'm starting to freak out a bit because I only have 3 more weeks until I move! I've lived in Chicago for 10 years now so it is going to be a BIG change. Excited to have new running routes to explore though! I discovered that the NIH is only 5 miles from my new apartment via a running trail, so I'm planning to run commute to work 2-3 times a week. So I've started practicing with the running backpack to get used to it. For today's runs I ran from home to the gym with my backpack fully loaded (clothes, jacket, flats, towel, shampoo, deodorant, brush, lock, phone- 4.9 lbs in all), which was just shy of 1.5 miles. Left everything in a locker there, and then ran to the lake front for this week's workout run- 2x600/400 + 3x400/400 + 4x200/200 plus a mile each warm up and cool down. Finished at the gym then showered and changed and walked the ~half mile to my current lab. Overall, I'm very pleased with how comfortable the running backpack was, even when loaded with so much stuff! No chafing or rubbing, and it hardly bounced around at all. Definitely worth the $90 I spent on it! Can't wait to enjoy more run commuting in the near future
ETA: The pack I have is the Osprey Dyna 15, the largest women's running pack they currently sell. The size is great- I had everything I needed in there and there was still room to spare- and it is very comfortable. You can tell it was definitely designed by a runner because every little detail is so thought out and perfect! Cannot recommend it enough (or the Duro for the guys)7 -
Newbie here to ... I always feel like I am about to die when I run... is that normal? So... I will start with 40miles... is there somewhere which explains how it all works.. I get nervous going for a run so want to get over that.
Whether you do a couch to 5k or not, it definitely sounds like you're pushing too hard. When I started running a couple of years ago I did 10-15 minutes of running one block, walking one block (or until I recovered) for a while. I had to learn to run slower, too, more than once in fact! Good luck!0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »And @PastorVincent, 20% DNS sounds incredibly high! I am surprised that is the industry standard - wow! I know the only way I have DNS'd was when I absolutely couldn't run because of injury. For Surf City I waited until the last minute to defer hoping the fracture in my foot would miraculously mend and I would be able to run/walk it somehow. I hate leaving that kind of money on the table! Too expensive for a shirt! Reading the article on the Pittsburgh races now makes me want to make it a destination HM. My husband will love it since his family is from around there - actually mine was too a couple of generations ago.
It is a great race. Lots of energy and you can even run with the greyhounds (retired racing dogs) at mile 18 if you like and decide to do the full instead of the half.
When we did the Flying Fur (2 mile dog race for Flying Pig weekend) there were a group of Greyhounds there. Most of them even had little booties on some, but not all, of their feet. My friend made the comment, "Damn, the Kenyans are here", which cracked me up.
I am hoping to run Pittsburgh next year (ahem, @shanaber, now you are on the hook). It is my hometown and my mother keeps asking me when I am going to run it. It is always the same weekend as the Flying Pig, so, for various reasons, it hasn't yet worked out for me to make it.2 -
Newbie here to ... I always feel like I am about to die when I run... is that normal? So... I will start with 40miles... is there somewhere which explains how it all works.. I get nervous going for a run so want to get over that.
The main thing that stopped me from feeling like I was about to die when I was a new runner was running much more slowly! Good luck.. if you haven’t tried something like couch to 5K, you might consider it. People seem to find it really helpful!
This is definitely the best advice you are going to get. Most new runners are surprised to learn that experienced runners almost never run as fast as they are capable of. Most of my runs are done at an easy pace up to a minute per mile slower than the pace I would run a marathon and 2 or more minutes per mile slower than the pace I would run for a 5K. It's definitely not about speed, it's about distance, particularly when you are working on building an aerobic base.3 -
lporter229 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »And @PastorVincent, 20% DNS sounds incredibly high! I am surprised that is the industry standard - wow! I know the only way I have DNS'd was when I absolutely couldn't run because of injury. For Surf City I waited until the last minute to defer hoping the fracture in my foot would miraculously mend and I would be able to run/walk it somehow. I hate leaving that kind of money on the table! Too expensive for a shirt! Reading the article on the Pittsburgh races now makes me want to make it a destination HM. My husband will love it since his family is from around there - actually mine was too a couple of generations ago.
It is a great race. Lots of energy and you can even run with the greyhounds (retired racing dogs) at mile 18 if you like and decide to do the full instead of the half.
When we did the Flying Fur (2 mile dog race for Flying Pig weekend) there were a group of Greyhounds there. Most of them even had little booties on some, but not all, of their feet. My friend made the comment, "Damn, the Kenyans are here", which cracked me up.
I am hoping to run Pittsburgh next year (ahem, @shanaber, now you are on the hook). It is my hometown and my mother keeps asking me when I am going to run it. It is always the same weekend as the Flying Pig, so, for various reasons, it hasn't yet worked out for me to make it.
I am expecting to run it every year right now. If you register way too early it is pretty cheap.0 -
lporter229 wrote: »Newbie here to ... I always feel like I am about to die when I run... is that normal? So... I will start with 40miles... is there somewhere which explains how it all works.. I get nervous going for a run so want to get over that.
The main thing that stopped me from feeling like I was about to die when I was a new runner was running much more slowly! Good luck.. if you haven’t tried something like couch to 5K, you might consider it. People seem to find it really helpful!
This is definitely the best advice you are going to get. Most new runners are surprised to learn that experienced runners almost never run as fast as they are capable of. Most of my runs are done at an easy pace up to a minute per mile slower than the pace I would run a marathon and 2 or more minutes per mile slower than the pace I would run for a 5K. It's definitely not about speed, it's about distance, particularly when you are working on building an aerobic base.
Definitely this ^^^^. Sounds easy to implement, but after 7 years, I still find it difficult to run slow enough to not feel like I am almost about to die at the end. Getting better, but still not there.3 -
PastorVincent wrote: »Tonight is the expo for the Pittsburgh Marathon. Are any MFP'ers going to be there? I know a couple of you are running. My wife and I are planning to be there around 5pm. Might drag my 15 year old along. He is over 6 foot now so he is good for looking over people and finding things.
I am hoping to find those thingies that let you wear a bib without pins. Do not know what they are called or who makes them so it probably is a futile hope, but without hope, what do you have?
@PastorVincent
The magnets are called bib dots, or something like that. I don't know anyone who uses them, a couple runners said they can fall off.
I use a bib belt, which works well for races short enough that I don't also need a hydration belt. Mine is made by Nathan, but I've also seen a guy who has a combination SPI belt/bib belt. IIRC, mine cost something like $8 or $10 a couple years ago.
I have a similar belt but with elastic loops for gels. It's great 0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »DANG. Ed Whitlock has been killing it for over a decade.
Marathon Wold Records
I heard several podcasts with (and about) him. Very unconventional training, excellent work. I think it was Marathon Talk that interviewed him, but I could be wrong. He passed away in 2017.
ETA: Found it.
https://marathontalk.com/shows/episode-72-ed-whitlock/
https://marathontalk.com/shows/episode-375-rip-ed-whitlock/2 -
Thank you for your words of encouragement ... I am going to do the park run tomorrow... 5km... feels nice, relaxed and friendly. I can run 5km really slooowwwwlllyyyy. But would rather be slow and feel good than not do it at all.10
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Thank you for your words of encouragement ... I am going to do the park run tomorrow... 5km... feels nice, relaxed and friendly. I can run 5km really slooowwwwlllyyyy. But would rather be slow and feel good than not do it at all.
@Shepeess the great thing about running slowly is that since it allows you to run longer, and with less stress on your body, it's actually a great way to build up speed in the long run. All the adaptations your body needs to make you a better runner and get faster at running happen when you run slowly so don't think you're doomed to always run slow, it's just that it's a great way to get your body used to, and get better at, running.5 -
Today I got to run 2.32 miles to the gym. It was a bit of a rough one - my calves and hamstrings felt tight, and my left knee started talking to me a little over halfway, something that hasn’t happened in a while. The tightness in my left calf stuck around a bit, too, which was weird. My right hip was acting up too, though not as bad.
Strength class started off okay but maybe 40 minutes in my glutes and hamstrings were complaining enough that I cut out early and took the bus instead of walking home (sorry for the stink, fellow passengers). I think there’s going to be some ice and yoga in my future. And maybe no long run again this weekend. Definitely not tomorrow.
I’m not sure what all happened today, but I’m taking it as time to retire my Ghost 10s and switch to the 11s full time. 560 miles on those 10s, which is really hard for me to comprehend some days.
5/1 Ran 2.31 miles, strength class
5/2 Rest
5/3 Ran 2.31 miles, strength class
May Total: 4.62 miles
May Goals: 50 miles run (70 miles stretch goal), lift 3x/week, 30 minutes/day of moderate cardio and 15 minutes/day of mobility.
2019 Races! (bold registered)
January 26: Securian 10K, St. Paul, MN Chip time: 1:05:07
February 16: Half Fast 10K DNS
March 23: Hot Dash 5K, Mpls, MN Chip time: 0:28:39 (*PR!)
May: PHRC Pensieve 10K (virtual)
May 19: Women Run the Cities 10K, Mpls, MN
June 12: ESTRS French 5K, Plymouth, MN
June 29 Lift Bridge 10Mi, Bayport MN
August 3: Beat the Blerch Half Marathon, Carnation, WA
September 2: MDRA Victory Labor Day 5 or 10K, Mpls, MN
September 8: Sioux Falls Half Marathon, Sioux Falls, SD
October 5: TCM 10K, St. Paul, MN
October 6: TCM 10Mi, Minneapolis to St. Paul, MN
October 12: Bemidji Blue Ox 26K, Bemidji, MN
November 28: Turkey Trot St. Paul 10K, St. Paul, MN
December 14: Reindeer Run 10K, Mpls, MN5 -
@Avidkeo congrats on the job! I tend to be skeptic too. I want science & studies, not anecdotes and promises. I want to understand the physiological reasons it works. On the other had, when I started taking glucosamine for my knee it was not backed by studies, but through personal testing over a long time, I've come to believe it helps. I agree that benefits could be the result of the placebo affect, or massaging for topicals. After my 50K on the 18th of May, assuming equal pain in my quads, I plan on rubbing CBD cream on one quad and regular cream on the other to see if I notice a difference. While it is unregulated, reputable manufacturers do submit their products for independent testing.
Oh let me know how it goes - for science! I think one reason I'm a skeptic about it working is that the chances of the oil oenetrating the layers of the skin, to get deep enough to the muscle to work... That's not how skin works. So I'm very curious how it goes. Eta did a bit of reading and from what I can see most of the CBD creams also have a lot of menthol so have the same effect as non CBD creams designed for sore muscles. Does this one have menthol or similar? Either way hope it works!3 -
So, today was pt visit. It went well. She was pretty optimistic. She has been a runner, and I know her husband is usually on the office treadmill either before or after me. She took in the whole sordid story, and listened to what I had been doing to try to avoid needing an appointment with her. She agreed I was doing all the right things, but I should have started doing them sooner, which I couldn’t disagree with. She tweaked some form things on my single leg things like RDLs, which of course, made them even harder. Ugh. And wants me to spend more time with a foam roller. She did some manual manipulation, and some graston (that will be pretty colors tomorrow), and threatened to poke me with needles next time. But... all that to get to the most important bit... she didn’t limit my running!!! At all!!! So, when my appointment was done, I turned around and got on their dreadmill (still was half expecting her to shut me down still, but she didn’t.).
Today’s run felt better both ankle wise and spirit wise than any bit of Wednesday’s did. So, whatever all she did seems to have done some good, which is encouraging. 3.1 today = 7.4/5010 -
Started HM training today. Decided to skip the one in Wellington, it's going to be too much of a challenge to get to now. There is one that will be local to our new town, on the 14th July, so I'm going to sign up for that one. Will be nice to have local events! I wore my sleeves today for the first time - it's definitely getting colder. They were great! I'm going to have to get gloves.
Went out for an 8k run this morning, enjoying my current running path while I can. The countdown is on! Told a lot of my workmates about the move. Going to be a challenging few weeks.
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