Anyone cutting after a bulk?
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@sardelsa starting my cut now. Curious what you've been doing since your post and what your feedback on it is.
I've ended my bulk 4 weeks ago (did nothing but IIFYM during that period and did oddly well).
I added time restricted eating and fasted am cardio 4 weeks ago. I also keep carbs minimum on my first breakfast to benefit from afterburn effect. And I will gradually lower the eating window down to an 8 h window (12pm - 8pm) with the passing weeks while simultanously, slowly lowering my caloric intake. I will also shift my macro distribution from some of my fat % to carbs during the cut since it is easier for me to burn carbs.
I already find that I keep more lean mass, since I see visual fat loss but my overall weight has changed little. Last year I did more aggressive caloric deficits and saw great results in losing fat, but I also lost moderate amounts of muscle mass despite a high protein diet.
Cheers
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Hey @Georgboernicke thanks for tagging me, I haven't really kept up with this thread. I am actually 24wks pregnant so definitely not cutting at the moment! Still lifting though (with modifications).
How do know you lost muscle last time? Just based on body composition, mirror, lifting performance? I would imagine if you cut too hard too fast, that could be the result. If that kind of eating schedule you are on now is working for you, great, just don't have to unnecessarily overcomplicate this process... it's really quite simple.. eat in a not too aggressive deficit, get adequate protein, keep up your lifting performance, and eat in a way that allows you to adhere and boosts your workout performance (which will vary depending on the individual) for some people that is IF, low carb, high protein, calorie cycling etc.
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Still on this "recomp". Maintaining between 205-210. I have abs - but they always show up around 15% (I got lucky with that lottery). I've been discussing it with my workout buddy who has also been on a recomp - him because he doesn't care to get bigger/stronger and is happy where he's at and just likes to lift. We've come to the conclusion that at least for anybody with goals that involve adding any real lean mass this is not the way to go. It's also probably not the best method if you have a goal of getting significantly stronger. I *am* getting stronger but it's at a literal snails pace and at this rate my 3 plate bench is going happen sometime around 2025... and I'm so close. Anyhow, I've actually picked a date to start logging/bulking again and I still have my fat pants laying around.
Oh, Congratulations! @sardelsa
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Hey @Georgboernicke thanks for tagging me, I haven't really kept up with this thread. I am actually 24wks pregnant so definitely not cutting at the moment! Still lifting though (with modifications).
How do know you lost muscle last time? Just based on body composition, mirror, lifting performance? I would imagine if you cut too hard too fast, that could be the result. If that kind of eating schedule you are on now is working for you, great, just don't have to unnecessarily overcomplicate this process... it's really quite simple.. eat in a not too aggressive deficit, get adequate protein, keep up your lifting performance, and eat in a way that allows you to adhere and boosts your workout performance (which will vary depending on the individual) for some people that is IF, low carb, high protein, calorie cycling etc.
Good luck!
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I'm mithering about body fat percentage, I'm now around 22% as a female, 123lbs and 160cms. I've now been cutting for nearly 16 weeks, 0.5lb loss per week.
I stalled for 1 month recently, that didn't sit well with me, especially at 1500 calories a day more on lifting days.
I was told recently to forget scales, rely on the mirror and I get it. It's the 18 year old mummy pooch that destroys me, it bloats then I look 'fat' even though my arms are lean. It skews my body image perception.
It's might fault for not concentrating on abs more to tighten things up, I had IBS at the time a year 1/2 ago when I started this journey and didn't want to put stress in that area.
I'm now desperate to bulk back up to put my 'second layer' of muscle on so that my next cut looks like I've actually been lifting.
This photo makes me want to cry, it's got scars, a dodgy ex piercing and faded tattoo, it's grown a baby but it's what I have.
I'm no longer a young woman, I'm 44 this year and all the people on YouTube I follow look nothing like I do despite the hard work.
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At 177.0 today (started at 184). I seem to be done with travel for awhile, so hopefully i can mentally commit. At this point. Taking things one week at a time to make some progress.
Moved onto my summer lifting routine. Pretty much hit the big lifts and bro out with accessory moves. It is a great mental break from a pure structured routine. Also, i generally do this so i have time to fit in some tennis for cardio.
Hit 175.4 this morning, although its going to be water/glycogen depletion since i am trying a 30-day ketogenic challenge for myself. Seeing if a very restrictive diet helps with compliance. So far, its working really well. Also, been discovering some need and good foods.
A side note, i am finding that I'm much more vascular with this diet. I suspect its due to the increase in FFAs. But that would be just a guess.
Even though tomorrow is my official weigh in day, i hit 173.5 today. 173 was my low weight after my 50lb loss 7 years ago and my lowest weight since middle school (i was 175 and lean as *kitten* all through highschool).
I do know a bulk is in my future but it seems as keto is a good cutting option for me. But no way am i doing this *kitten* long term. I miss oats and fruit.
Weight is up this week at 174.5 but i feel much leaner. I did have more carbs which is probably why. I was craving berries. Net carbs where still sub 50. This week is going to be interesting. I have work travel tomorrow thru Wednesday and then vacation on Friday for the weekend. Goal is maintain thru the week. Not even sure how much exercise I will get in.0 -
At 177.0 today (started at 184). I seem to be done with travel for awhile, so hopefully i can mentally commit. At this point. Taking things one week at a time to make some progress.
Moved onto my summer lifting routine. Pretty much hit the big lifts and bro out with accessory moves. It is a great mental break from a pure structured routine. Also, i generally do this so i have time to fit in some tennis for cardio.
Hit 175.4 this morning, although its going to be water/glycogen depletion since i am trying a 30-day ketogenic challenge for myself. Seeing if a very restrictive diet helps with compliance. So far, its working really well. Also, been discovering some need and good foods.
A side note, i am finding that I'm much more vascular with this diet. I suspect its due to the increase in FFAs. But that would be just a guess.
Even though tomorrow is my official weigh in day, i hit 173.5 today. 173 was my low weight after my 50lb loss 7 years ago and my lowest weight since middle school (i was 175 and lean as *kitten* all through highschool).
I do know a bulk is in my future but it seems as keto is a good cutting option for me. But no way am i doing this *kitten* long term. I miss oats and fruit.
Weight is up this week at 174.5 but i feel much leaner. I did have more carbs which is probably why. I was craving berries. Net carbs where still sub 50. This week is going to be interesting. I have work travel tomorrow thru Wednesday and then vacation on Friday for the weekend. Goal is maintain thru the week. Not even sure how much exercise I will get in.
Update: hit an all time low of 172.8 this morning. Had a few weeks without loss due to travel and life being crazy. Got back on board this week, while still doing keto.
Have been finding some really goof recipes which will be even better once i incorporate some carbs back (i.e., Big Mac replica).3 -
At 177.0 today (started at 184). I seem to be done with travel for awhile, so hopefully i can mentally commit. At this point. Taking things one week at a time to make some progress.
Moved onto my summer lifting routine. Pretty much hit the big lifts and bro out with accessory moves. It is a great mental break from a pure structured routine. Also, i generally do this so i have time to fit in some tennis for cardio.
Hit 175.4 this morning, although its going to be water/glycogen depletion since i am trying a 30-day ketogenic challenge for myself. Seeing if a very restrictive diet helps with compliance. So far, its working really well. Also, been discovering some need and good foods.
A side note, i am finding that I'm much more vascular with this diet. I suspect its due to the increase in FFAs. But that would be just a guess.
Even though tomorrow is my official weigh in day, i hit 173.5 today. 173 was my low weight after my 50lb loss 7 years ago and my lowest weight since middle school (i was 175 and lean as *kitten* all through highschool).
I do know a bulk is in my future but it seems as keto is a good cutting option for me. But no way am i doing this *kitten* long term. I miss oats and fruit.
Weight is up this week at 174.5 but i feel much leaner. I did have more carbs which is probably why. I was craving berries. Net carbs where still sub 50. This week is going to be interesting. I have work travel tomorrow thru Wednesday and then vacation on Friday for the weekend. Goal is maintain thru the week. Not even sure how much exercise I will get in.
Update: hit an all time low of 172.8 this morning. Had a few weeks without loss due to travel and life being crazy. Got back on board this week, while still doing keto.
Have been finding some really goof recipes which will be even better once i incorporate some carbs back (i.e., Big Mac replica).
Hilarious typo. Would you care to elaborate on these "goof recipes"? :laugh:2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »At 177.0 today (started at 184). I seem to be done with travel for awhile, so hopefully i can mentally commit. At this point. Taking things one week at a time to make some progress.
Moved onto my summer lifting routine. Pretty much hit the big lifts and bro out with accessory moves. It is a great mental break from a pure structured routine. Also, i generally do this so i have time to fit in some tennis for cardio.
Hit 175.4 this morning, although its going to be water/glycogen depletion since i am trying a 30-day ketogenic challenge for myself. Seeing if a very restrictive diet helps with compliance. So far, its working really well. Also, been discovering some need and good foods.
A side note, i am finding that I'm much more vascular with this diet. I suspect its due to the increase in FFAs. But that would be just a guess.
Even though tomorrow is my official weigh in day, i hit 173.5 today. 173 was my low weight after my 50lb loss 7 years ago and my lowest weight since middle school (i was 175 and lean as *kitten* all through highschool).
I do know a bulk is in my future but it seems as keto is a good cutting option for me. But no way am i doing this *kitten* long term. I miss oats and fruit.
Weight is up this week at 174.5 but i feel much leaner. I did have more carbs which is probably why. I was craving berries. Net carbs where still sub 50. This week is going to be interesting. I have work travel tomorrow thru Wednesday and then vacation on Friday for the weekend. Goal is maintain thru the week. Not even sure how much exercise I will get in.
Update: hit an all time low of 172.8 this morning. Had a few weeks without loss due to travel and life being crazy. Got back on board this week, while still doing keto.
Have been finding some really goof recipes which will be even better once i incorporate some carbs back (i.e., Big Mac replica).
Hilarious typo. Would you care to elaborate on these "goof recipes"? :laugh:quiksylver296 wrote: »At 177.0 today (started at 184). I seem to be done with travel for awhile, so hopefully i can mentally commit. At this point. Taking things one week at a time to make some progress.
Moved onto my summer lifting routine. Pretty much hit the big lifts and bro out with accessory moves. It is a great mental break from a pure structured routine. Also, i generally do this so i have time to fit in some tennis for cardio.
Hit 175.4 this morning, although its going to be water/glycogen depletion since i am trying a 30-day ketogenic challenge for myself. Seeing if a very restrictive diet helps with compliance. So far, its working really well. Also, been discovering some need and good foods.
A side note, i am finding that I'm much more vascular with this diet. I suspect its due to the increase in FFAs. But that would be just a guess.
Even though tomorrow is my official weigh in day, i hit 173.5 today. 173 was my low weight after my 50lb loss 7 years ago and my lowest weight since middle school (i was 175 and lean as *kitten* all through highschool).
I do know a bulk is in my future but it seems as keto is a good cutting option for me. But no way am i doing this *kitten* long term. I miss oats and fruit.
Weight is up this week at 174.5 but i feel much leaner. I did have more carbs which is probably why. I was craving berries. Net carbs where still sub 50. This week is going to be interesting. I have work travel tomorrow thru Wednesday and then vacation on Friday for the weekend. Goal is maintain thru the week. Not even sure how much exercise I will get in.
Update: hit an all time low of 172.8 this morning. Had a few weeks without loss due to travel and life being crazy. Got back on board this week, while still doing keto.
Have been finding some really goof recipes which will be even better once i incorporate some carbs back (i.e., Big Mac replica).
Hilarious typo. Would you care to elaborate on these "goof recipes"? :laugh:
Its goofy to have a hamburger without a bun lol.1 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »At 177.0 today (started at 184). I seem to be done with travel for awhile, so hopefully i can mentally commit. At this point. Taking things one week at a time to make some progress.
Moved onto my summer lifting routine. Pretty much hit the big lifts and bro out with accessory moves. It is a great mental break from a pure structured routine. Also, i generally do this so i have time to fit in some tennis for cardio.
Hit 175.4 this morning, although its going to be water/glycogen depletion since i am trying a 30-day ketogenic challenge for myself. Seeing if a very restrictive diet helps with compliance. So far, its working really well. Also, been discovering some need and good foods.
A side note, i am finding that I'm much more vascular with this diet. I suspect its due to the increase in FFAs. But that would be just a guess.
Even though tomorrow is my official weigh in day, i hit 173.5 today. 173 was my low weight after my 50lb loss 7 years ago and my lowest weight since middle school (i was 175 and lean as *kitten* all through highschool).
I do know a bulk is in my future but it seems as keto is a good cutting option for me. But no way am i doing this *kitten* long term. I miss oats and fruit.
Weight is up this week at 174.5 but i feel much leaner. I did have more carbs which is probably why. I was craving berries. Net carbs where still sub 50. This week is going to be interesting. I have work travel tomorrow thru Wednesday and then vacation on Friday for the weekend. Goal is maintain thru the week. Not even sure how much exercise I will get in.
Update: hit an all time low of 172.8 this morning. Had a few weeks without loss due to travel and life being crazy. Got back on board this week, while still doing keto.
Have been finding some really goof recipes which will be even better once i incorporate some carbs back (i.e., Big Mac replica).
Hilarious typo. Would you care to elaborate on these "goof recipes"? :laugh:quiksylver296 wrote: »At 177.0 today (started at 184). I seem to be done with travel for awhile, so hopefully i can mentally commit. At this point. Taking things one week at a time to make some progress.
Moved onto my summer lifting routine. Pretty much hit the big lifts and bro out with accessory moves. It is a great mental break from a pure structured routine. Also, i generally do this so i have time to fit in some tennis for cardio.
Hit 175.4 this morning, although its going to be water/glycogen depletion since i am trying a 30-day ketogenic challenge for myself. Seeing if a very restrictive diet helps with compliance. So far, its working really well. Also, been discovering some need and good foods.
A side note, i am finding that I'm much more vascular with this diet. I suspect its due to the increase in FFAs. But that would be just a guess.
Even though tomorrow is my official weigh in day, i hit 173.5 today. 173 was my low weight after my 50lb loss 7 years ago and my lowest weight since middle school (i was 175 and lean as *kitten* all through highschool).
I do know a bulk is in my future but it seems as keto is a good cutting option for me. But no way am i doing this *kitten* long term. I miss oats and fruit.
Weight is up this week at 174.5 but i feel much leaner. I did have more carbs which is probably why. I was craving berries. Net carbs where still sub 50. This week is going to be interesting. I have work travel tomorrow thru Wednesday and then vacation on Friday for the weekend. Goal is maintain thru the week. Not even sure how much exercise I will get in.
Update: hit an all time low of 172.8 this morning. Had a few weeks without loss due to travel and life being crazy. Got back on board this week, while still doing keto.
Have been finding some really goof recipes which will be even better once i incorporate some carbs back (i.e., Big Mac replica).
Hilarious typo. Would you care to elaborate on these "goof recipes"? :laugh:
Its goofy to have a hamburger without a bun lol.
I like your definition! Agreed!0 -
So am down to 171 but I am struggling energy wise and have been severely hungry. Think I am going to incorporate periodic refeeds to see if it mitigates some of these symptoms.
Oh, and I am totally using Mike N Ike's to refeed.1 -
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quiksylver296 wrote: »
Yeah, "refeed" is what I've been doing... that's what I'll call it. Went to a 2-day conference and ate like an unsupervised escapee from fat camp.3 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »
Yeah, "refeed" is what I've been doing... that's what I'll call it. Went to a 2-day conference and ate like an unsupervised escapee from fat camp.
I just call it #bulking. LOL1 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
Yeah, "refeed" is what I've been doing... that's what I'll call it. Went to a 2-day conference and ate like an unsupervised escapee from fat camp.
I just call it #bulking. LOL
I'd love to but there's no excuse for 4200+ calories at my size (yesterday's ballpark total). 1 year+ and 47 pages of this thread later and I still don't feel like I'm lean enough to justify bulking, either.1 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
Yeah, "refeed" is what I've been doing... that's what I'll call it. Went to a 2-day conference and ate like an unsupervised escapee from fat camp.
I just call it #bulking. LOL
I'd love to but there's no excuse for 4200+ calories at my size (yesterday's ballpark total). 1 year+ and 47 pages of this thread later and I still don't feel like I'm lean enough to justify bulking, either.
Me, either. Doesn't stop me! 2 -
Up 4.5 lbs today
. Today is the last day of my refeed. Back to keto tomorrow. 2 -
Been quiet here since June; I hope all are doing well. Since I last posted I've actually seen some decent improvement dropping almost 5 lbs by trend weight since 6/29. At this point I'm planning to stay the course through 9/15, reverse diet that week leading to an event that weekend of 9/20.5
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I'm still cutting since March and down 15 lbs. I'm continuing since my left glute pain is temporarily preventing heavy squats and deadlifts but it seems to be getting better. If I can't get strong, at least I can get lean in preparation of my next bulk.2
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My cutting phase starts today. I’ve been in recomp for 8 months now. Wish me luck!3
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Been quiet here since June; I hope all are doing well. Since I last posted I've actually seen some decent improvement dropping almost 5 lbs by trend weight since 6/29. At this point I'm planning to stay the course through 9/15, reverse diet that week leading to an event that weekend of 9/20.
Still around and still recomping. I don't know why but I just don't have the stomach (lol) for a bulk right now. I'm hovering between 210-215 and still lean enough to have abs if I flex but fat enough that if I don't I got a bit of a pooch.
Lifts have pretty much stagnated. I was finally able to add about 5 pounds to bench but still about 35 off that 3 plate I've been chasing. I'm changing things up a little now as I think there may have been a bit too much volume. I honestly don't see much of a difference in body composition - I've never been a fan of the idea of "recomposition" and this experience is just reinforcing how incredibly slow the process is... although I do like that I can basically eat how I like and I'm not having to log anything. I've been able to maintain +/- 5 pounds just eating intuitively.
Current level of chub...
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Right now I’m cutting, at the final stage (then I’ll bulk). What I do specifically is eat and train how I want without Sabotaging Results. I also teach people how to do this so they can lose weight too while enjoying the foods that they love.
Cutting is pretty simple to me and comes naturally because I’ve spent many years perfecting my skill of losing weight. But pretty much what I do depends on how far along I go on a bulk. I usually go up to 13%-15% Bodyfat then drop down to 7-10% Bodyfat and repeat the process until I’m satisfied/reach a goal.
I mostly focus on nutrition since it is a huge chunk of how you lose weight.
If you want to know more about this, then message me or reply back on here.
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My coach told me this morning that he's going to have me bulk 30ish pounds after Nationals. That's gonna put me around 215 lbs! I'm not sure I can mentally handle it!5
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quiksylver296 wrote: »My coach told me this morning that he's going to have me bulk 30ish pounds after Nationals. That's gonna put me around 215 lbs! I'm not sure I can mentally handle it!
Wow, over what time frame?0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »My coach told me this morning that he's going to have me bulk 30ish pounds after Nationals. That's gonna put me around 215 lbs! I'm not sure I can mentally handle it!
Wow, over what time frame?
Allegedly October through May-ish.0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »My coach told me this morning that he's going to have me bulk 30ish pounds after Nationals. That's gonna put me around 215 lbs! I'm not sure I can mentally handle it!
Wow, over what time frame?
Allegedly October through May-ish.
So around 1lb/week. Interesting. Bulking like that during the holidays would be fun.2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »My coach told me this morning that he's going to have me bulk 30ish pounds after Nationals. That's gonna put me around 215 lbs! I'm not sure I can mentally handle it!
Wow, over what time frame?
Allegedly October through May-ish.
So around 1lb/week. Interesting. Bulking like that during the holidays would be fun.
I'm hoping he's just hyping me up to get my mind wrapped around it, and then we work a bit slower bulk. I've been chasing a 400 lb deadlift for almost 2 years now, and he's hoping more muscle mass will get me there.
But, yeah, the holidays will be easy peasy.1 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »My coach told me this morning that he's going to have me bulk 30ish pounds after Nationals. That's gonna put me around 215 lbs! I'm not sure I can mentally handle it!
Wow, over what time frame?
Allegedly October through May-ish.
So around 1lb/week. Interesting. Bulking like that during the holidays would be fun.
I'm hoping he's just hyping me up to get my mind wrapped around it, and then we work a bit slower bulk. I've been chasing a 400 lb deadlift for almost 2 years now, and he's hoping more muscle mass will get me there.
But, yeah, the holidays will be easy peasy.
I don't know the details on the federation you're competing with, what ramifications could that have on your weight class?0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »My coach told me this morning that he's going to have me bulk 30ish pounds after Nationals. That's gonna put me around 215 lbs! I'm not sure I can mentally handle it!
Wow, over what time frame?
Allegedly October through May-ish.
So around 1lb/week. Interesting. Bulking like that during the holidays would be fun.
I'm hoping he's just hyping me up to get my mind wrapped around it, and then we work a bit slower bulk. I've been chasing a 400 lb deadlift for almost 2 years now, and he's hoping more muscle mass will get me there.
But, yeah, the holidays will be easy peasy.
I don't know the details on the federation you're competing with, what ramifications could that have on your weight class?
It's a bulk and cut plan, so I'll stay in the same weight class. USAPL. I'm currently 84 kg, and I don't want to compete against the 84+ gals. They are BEASTS!1
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