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AnnPT77, THANKYOU for your post, VERY much appreciated (bold words not shouted, just stressing x)....may you PLEASE be so kind as to elaborate on the following because I'm finding it hard to grasp unfortunately...
"At least 0.6-0.8g protein per pound of healthy goal weight (approximately equivalent to 0.8-1g per pound of lean body mass). More is fine, within reason.
- At least 0.35-0.45g fat per pound of healthy goal weight, as much of it as possible from healthy sources like olive oil, avocados, nuts, etc. More is fine, within reason."
I mean you say max of 0.8g protein of healthy goal weight. Lets say I'm aiming to be 140lbs at my goal so to round it off lets say no more then 1g per lb - are you saying 140g of protein is allowed daily??? Or more specifically 140 x .6 = 84g to (140 x .8
112g of protein?
Thankyou for any help re this matter from anyone really who can answer this.
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AnnPT77, THANKYOU for your post, VERY much appreciated (bold words not shouted, just stressing x)....may you PLEASE be so kind as to elaborate on the following because I'm finding it hard to grasp unfortunately...
"At least 0.6-0.8g protein per pound of healthy goal weight (approximately equivalent to 0.8-1g per pound of lean body mass). More is fine, within reason.
- At least 0.35-0.45g fat per pound of healthy goal weight, as much of it as possible from healthy sources like olive oil, avocados, nuts, etc. More is fine, within reason."
I mean you say max of 0.8g protein of healthy goal weight. Lets say I'm aiming to be 140lbs at my goal so to round it off lets say no more then 1g per lb - are you saying 140g of protein is allowed daily??? Or more specifically 140 x .6 = 84g to (140 x .8 112g of protein?
Thankyou for any help re this matter from anyone really who can answer this.
She is saying, if you aim for 140, get between 84g to 112g. 140g is overkill and likely unnecessary, but probably won't hurt if you like that much protein. (the .8 to 1 g applies to lean body mass, ie, without fat).1 -
French_Peasant wrote: »
She is saying, if you aim for 140, get between 84g to 112g. 140g is overkill and likely unnecessary, but probably won't hurt if you like that much protein. (the .8 to 1 g applies to lean body mass, ie, without fat).
Exactly.
Protein and fat are best thought of as minimums. More is fine, as long as it doesn't drive out other necessary nutrition.
And you don't need to hit numbers exactly. A little over some days, a little under others - just fine. The calories determine weight loss. Nutrients are about health, satiety, body composition, energy level, and that sort of thing.
I'd also underscore that the suggested amounts are just my opinion about what to target for best health maintenance odds while losing weight, and possibly also exercising. They're not unusual recommendations around here, but some people have different opinions.
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First, thanks for your original post. I do have a question of clarity -- it's pretty straight forward, but I just want ot be sure I understand.
"At least 0.6-0.8g protein per pound of healthy goal weight...."
By that statement simply multiplying the protein per pound by my desired "healthy goal weight", even if I'm 60 lbs above right now. I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but I want to be certain.
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donnainhouston wrote: »First, thanks for your original post. I do have a question of clarity -- it's pretty straight forward, but I just want ot be sure I understand.
"At least 0.6-0.8g protein per pound of healthy goal weight...."
By that statement simply multiplying the protein per pound by my desired "healthy goal weight", even if I'm 60 lbs above right now. I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but I want to be certain.
Thanks!
Yes. It's actually 0.6 to 0.8 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass, but it's difficult to know what someone's lean body mass is (all the rest of your body minus fat). So it's easier to go with goal weight.1 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »
Yes. It's actually 0.6 to 0.8 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass, but it's difficult to know what someone's lean body mass is (all the rest of your body minus fat). So it's easier to go with goal weight.
FWIW, at the risk of making it more complicated, I'd say it's really (just my opinion!
) 0.8-1g per pound of lean body mass, but 0.6-0.8g with an assumption cooked in that most people will have roughly around 20% body fat +/- at "healthy goal weight".
Many people will actually have a few percent more or less body fat (BF) than that, but (1) the BF% difference doesn't really make a huge difference in the protein goal numbers if one does the arithmetic, and (2) most people whose goal weight/BF% is very unusual are slightly more likely to realize that (expecially those with a relatively low BF% goal who are focused on muscle mass/body comp . . . some of whom will choose a more aggressive protein goal than 1g per pound of LBM).
But that's all just minor quibbles.
Yes, @donnainhouston, bottom line is to just multiply your healthy goal weight by 0.6-08, and eat that number of protein grams daily as a minimum, is the advice I was suggesting. There's quite a range of opinions on the "proper" numbers, especially for protein.
If you want more info, I think this article is informative, reasonably neutral, and science-based: https://examine.com/nutrition/how-much-protein-do-you-need/
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What percentages for daily macros do you suggest I enter?0
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HappyFeetXOXO wrote: »What percentages for daily macros do you suggest I enter?
The MFP default percents are a decent start for most people.
If you want to do something more customized, at some point after your calorie level is working well for you, it makes the most sense (to me) to start macro estimates by looking at your size, rather than at your calorie goal (percents do the latter). Exactly where to go from there is a matter of opinion (different experts say somewhat different things), so everything after this is just my opinion, based on sources I trust. (I am not personally a nutrition expert.)
Start with your healthy goal weight (HGW). If you're not sure, use the middle of the BMI range for your height as an approximation. (A rough guess will work fine.)
Multiply your HGW by 0.6, then multiply your HGW by 0.8. That will give a lower and upper value for the number of grams of protein I think it would be reasonable for you to eat daily. Tweak your MFP protein percent to put grams somewhere in that range.
Now multiply your HGW by 0.35 and 0.45. That will give a lower and upper value for the number of grams of fats I think it would be reasonable for you to eat daily. Tweak your MFP fat percent to put grams somewhere in that range.
Finally, tweak your MFP carb percent so the macronutrient percents add up to 100.
Again, this is just my opinion. And macros really don't matter for weight loss, except in how they might affect your satiation, satisfaction, and energy level. If the above ideas screw up your satiation, satisfaction, or energy level to the point where it's annoyingly difficult for you to lose weight, do something different (within reason) that is more workable for you.
Macros are for nutrition, energy level, and health. The first best thing you can do for your health is to lose weight. There's no value in making that more difficult than necessary!
Finally, once you have your macros set somewhere, don't obsess about them. Close is good enough, day to day, especially if it's over some days, under others. Gradually working your way to where you want them, by gradually adjusting what you eat, is fine: It doesn't have to be instantly spot on. Keep the process manageable. Try to hit your protein (as a minimum) most days, but it's fine to go over. Fats are second to try to hit - again, OK to go over. Carbs can be anywhere, really, but if eating more of them spikes your appetite, then eat fewer of them. If eating too few of them tanks your energy level, then eat more of them.
Some of this is personal: It can take a little experimenting to see where your satiation and energy level come out best. You don't have to get it exactly right on day one. You can take your time, and make gradual, manageable changes to what you eat. Humans are very adaptable omnivores. Assuming you're already generally healthy, not massively deficient in some nutrient (i.e., medically diagnosed as such), then improving your nutrition can be a slow, gradual process of improvement.
Best wishes!
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WOWZA! Best "diet recommendation" post I've seen on MFP!3
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Self-bumping this again, because so many relevant threads lately. Maybe I should've given it a fancy name, or had a marketing plan, or promised miracles. . . ? Nah. 5
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Your Self-Bumping is the bomb! Great, informative post! Glad I found it. Thank you
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U forgot a couple of extras
*These are all appropriate for people not under direct doctor supervision. If under direct supervision then follow doctor's orders assuming you've done your due diligence to ensure they are appropriate to your conditions (second opinions etc)
Spot on with this.
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Capyboppy2017 wrote: »
Spot on with this.
Absolutely. I agreed with PAV back on page 1 when he first said this (plus some other good stuff), and welcome corrections* and amplifications from anyone. :flowerforyou:
* I reserve the right to argue with any reply advancing a "correction" that I personally believe to be incorrect, or think is entirely a matter of personal and individual preference. I encourage anyone with entirely different views of the matter to start their own thread. :drinker: 5 -
I have linked this thread many times but never actually read it. I have always just assumed I followed a similar thought process to get where I am.3
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I have linked this thread many times but never actually read it. I have always just assumed I followed a similar thought process to get where I am.
LOL! (I'm not sure whether I should feel complimented (because cited), or insulted (because unread).)
But, based on what I've read from you in other threads, I'd say we're probably close. I may be a little more of a science fair nerd about nutrition, with a junior-high level understanding of nutritional science to match. 6 -
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Too read later.. thank you @AnnPT77!1
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A pre-holiday gift: bumping a solid post.3
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Hope you'll forgive me for a pre-New Year anticipatory bump of my own thread . . . . 5
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@AnnPT77 ... what? Free? Are you sure it's not C.O.D. ?🤔4
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Bump... I think I’ve been over thinking everything..... my husband tells me that a lot...and I do believe the Light Bulb has come on. Thank you sooo much. 🌺4
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