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Fat Shaming Plates or Political Correctness Run Amok?
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amusedmonkey wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »i think i would have less issues if it were equally marketed towards men as women, but it wasn't and there is where i have issue with - its potentially exploiting a vulnerabilty that many women have about body image to make a buck (FWIW - i eat about the same amount as mom jeans but def. don't need them)
It's part of a collection with the same design. There was another plate in the collection that had something about men in it.
then i have less issue with it - i still like the idea of my dad bod beer mug though1 -
Here's a novel idea: If you don't like something, don't buy it, don't listen to it, don't watch it.24
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It doesn't offend me, but it does annoy me. Purely because it's so facile and wrong. The style of jeans you can wear has very little to do with size, and a lot to do with shape.
Anyone trying to serve me off one of those plates would have to endure an hour-long rant about why I can never find jeans to fit, whatever the number my scales show.
This! My answer to the title of this thread is kind of "Why not both?"
The plates are dumb, and make a joke out of the idea that women who eat a big plate of food don't care about weight, appearance, or fashion. But to make a big deal out of it is silly, I seriously doubt a woman could manage to avoid that message in every other aspect of her life, and then finally succumb to it in the Housewares section of Macy's because of some plates
There's a "boy who cried wolf" thing going on, where people making big deals out of silly stuff like this make it harder to draw attention to legitimate areas where societal pressures, media, and government policies DO shame or discriminate. It just all gets dumped into "political correctness" and eyerolled. This one deserves the eyeroll, but yeah I'd lecture anyone I knew who bought it too10 -
Why is political correctness bad and what are you saying when you (general you) state that political correctness has gone too far?
I suppose the other question is what are you defining as "politically correctness"?10 -
I’m not offended - it’s just stupid and sexist9
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I don't find it "offensive", but I do think that it perpetuates misleading ideas about weight loss that are damaging, particularly that to lose weight you need to only eat a small amount. It's a novelty plate, I'm not about to storm their offices over it. But I do think it's in bad taste.13
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There are many great evils in the world; this ain't one of them.
That being said, they (Macy's or whomever it was) should be allowed to sell them if they like.
'Bad Taste' should also be protected speech.11 -
Motorsheen wrote: »There are many great evils in the world; this ain't one of them.
That being said, they (Macy's or whomever it was) should be allowed to sell them if they like.
'Bad Taste' should also be protected speech.4 -
It's not fat shaming, but it's not helpful, may be harmful to those already suffering disorders, and isn't even slightly funny.
I challenge even one person who said its "just a joke" to honestly say they even smiled at these things.
I also challenge stores to try harder.15 -
griffithsjackie283 wrote: »It's not offensive but it's not really correct......I know lots of moms who are smokin hot!!
Thank you! I am a 75 years old grandma wearing a size 2/4 jeans (depending on the brand), but I don't wear skinny jeans because I don't like them. Those plates are stupid and not realistic.1 -
Please do not look at this if you're easily offended
https://touch.adverts.ie/healthcare/world-slimming-novelty-portion-control-weight-loss-diet-plate-watcher/14448468
OMG I WANT ONE lol
(p.s. I am in the morbidly obese category and am not offended by a damn plate)7 -
I'm not offended...but I'm a dude that can eat a lot of food and still lose weight or maintain weight. I do find it in poor taste though, and even as a joke, can perpetuate the myth that women have to eat like a tiny little bird to lose or maintain weight.8
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deannalfisher wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »i think i would have less issues if it were equally marketed towards men as women, but it wasn't and there is where i have issue with - its potentially exploiting a vulnerabilty that many women have about body image to make a buck (FWIW - i eat about the same amount as mom jeans but def. don't need them)
It's part of a collection with the same design. There was another plate in the collection that had something about men in it.
then i have less issue with it - i still like the idea of my dad bod beer mug though
Make that a coffee mug and I'll buy one
I do think people are being too sensitive, but I also like the idea of the rings on the plate for portion control.
Some days I feel like I can't say "Good Morning" without being told what an insensitive jerk I am. Point being that cries of offense and indignation lose meaning after hearing 2-3 stories a day for years about yet another someone offended by something.
There's plenty to be pissed off about these days what ever a bodies world view is. This is just doesn't seem that important to me.5 -
Life's too short to hate plates.10
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It's not worth getting our collective panties in a bunch and demanding Macy's take them down. But it's also just not funny. It doesn't make sense. Since when were Mom Jeans related to how big your jeans are anyways? I always thought Mom Jeans was related to a particular style regardless of size. Skinny Jeans, Favourite jeans, and Leggings would have made more sense. And to me it would be a gauge of how full you will be. Not how fat you are.
If Macy's hadn't catered to the squeaky wheels of the internet, they would have sat in stores until they went zero value (what happens when no one buys the clearance stuff) and got sent back anyways.
Is it fat shaming? Only if you are looking to get offended I think. I feel like this nation could benefit from a healthy dose of ignore and move on with a lot of things. Most of this stuff isn't worth blasting others on the internet for.
ETA: What I picture as "mom jeans". I've never heard it referenced to how fat one is.
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I happened to see the first few tweets that started the recall effort. They did not mention the mom jeans portion size and had nothing to do with fat shaming. They were concerned with the skinny jeans portion size and how it could trigger or exacerbate eating disorders in young people. I'm just meh on the whole recall thing. These plates are meant to be silly and not taken seriously but I can also see how someone with a disorder could have trouble with it.11
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Please do not look at this if you're easily offended
https://touch.adverts.ie/healthcare/world-slimming-novelty-portion-control-weight-loss-diet-plate-watcher/14448468
This one I like.0 -
LJGettinSexy wrote: »Mom jeans come in all sizes and fit differently than skinny jeans, which comes in all sizes too, so this was an EPIC fail at humor and anything else.
This.
Also, the current fashion trend of "mom jeans" are the 80s/90s style jeans with very high yet small waists and look best on hip young ladies in their teens and twenties...I see them all the time wearing vintage Chic, Jordache, etc. It's a thing. That's what "mom jeans" actually means in our current culture, and not some kind of unappealing, wide, elastic waist situation, which is what they seem to be indicating.
Awkward at best.2 -
I see exactly nothing wrong nor offensive about it. At worst, it's over simplified/generalized, but to me it's no different than the idea of using smaller plates to help control your portions while putting up a post-it note on the fridge with as a reminder of your goals.
Looking at it a bit tongue-in-cheek, it gets a chuckle from me.6 -
Motorsheen wrote: »There are many great evils in the world; this ain't one of them.
That being said, they (Macy's or whomever it was) should be allowed to sell them if they like.
'Bad Taste' should also be protected speech.
Yeah, that's true. After I typed the post, I thought: This probably doesn't fall under Government protected free speech. ( I just got busy and didn't take the time to edit the post.)
As a liberal, I suppose that I am just a little paranoid about our liberties being eroded from any angle.
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