can I get opinions on the keto diet vs. just counting calories and staying under 1200?
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nighthawk584 wrote: »3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »so when a fat person wants to lose 30 pounds it's cool, people want to help. but when I ask simple questions it's "seek help" 😂😂😂😂
The problem is, you will not take any critique at all from experienced people on this forum... This and another recent post of yours looks like you are seeking some quick fix non- sustainable and dangerous diets. What do you expect us to assume? We aren't going to cheer lead something like this! Good luck!
"quick fix, non-sustainable diets" um. no. im asking general questions about things I have heard about. yes im trying to quickly lose weight but after I lose at least half of it I was gonna take it more slow... I can't even go home for Christmas because my whole family relentless talks about my weight the whole time and ruins everything. I recently got married and not even 5 minutes before, my dad told me I gained so much weight and how awful I look. I need to lose the weight before Christmas or at the very least 10 pounds of it. you probably don't know what it's like to have to literally hide yourself from your family because of your weight but it's awful, I've missed last Christmas, birthdays, Thanksgiving, etc and I can't keep on this way. no one will ever understand. I just wanted to advice and now I see that literally no one wants to help and it's cool. like I said I'll figure it out on my own. or either spend another holiday without going to see my family bc I just can't handle it. like thanks for making me feel even worse it's sure did help alot ..13 -
3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »nighthawk584 wrote: »3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »so when a fat person wants to lose 30 pounds it's cool, people want to help. but when I ask simple questions it's "seek help" 😂😂😂😂
The problem is, you will not take any critique at all from experienced people on this forum... This and another recent post of yours looks like you are seeking some quick fix non- sustainable and dangerous diets. What do you expect us to assume? We aren't going to cheer lead something like this! Good luck!
"quick fix, non-sustainable diets" um. no. im asking general questions about things I have heard about. yes im trying to quickly lose weight but after I lose at least half of it I was gonna take it more slow... I can't even go home for Christmas because my whole family relentless talks about my weight the whole time and ruins everything. I recently got married and not even 5 minutes before, my dad told me I gained so much weight and how awful I look. I need to lose the weight before Christmas or at the very least 10 pounds of it. you probably don't know what it's like to have to literally hide yourself from your family because of your weight but it's awful, I've missed last Christmas, birthdays, Thanksgiving, etc and I can't keep on this way. no one will ever understand. I just wanted to advice and now I see that literally no one wants to help and it's cool. like I said I'll figure it out on my own. or either spend another holiday without going to see my family bc I just can't handle it. like thanks for making me feel even worse it's sure did help alot ..
I am truly sorry to hear that your own family treats you like this. That is terrible! But losing that much weight (10lbs or more) in 2 weeks time is really only safe for an obese person to do. I know, because I was OBESE! and losing 30 from your weight right now puts you at an unhealthy bmi.
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3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »kshama2001, im about 5'4, 130lbs and I don't exercise except at work I basically walk or stand for 8 hours out of the day. is 1200 not good for me do you think? I never put much thought into that. im trying to lose 30 pounds, I've gained a lot of weight this year and have no clothes that fit
3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »nighthawk584 wrote: »3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »so when a fat person wants to lose 30 pounds it's cool, people want to help. but when I ask simple questions it's "seek help" 😂😂😂😂
The problem is, you will not take any critique at all from experienced people on this forum... This and another recent post of yours looks like you are seeking some quick fix non- sustainable and dangerous diets. What do you expect us to assume? We aren't going to cheer lead something like this! Good luck!
"quick fix, non-sustainable diets" um. no. im asking general questions about things I have heard about. yes im trying to quickly lose weight but after I lose at least half of it I was gonna take it more slow... I can't even go home for Christmas because my whole family relentless talks about my weight the whole time and ruins everything. I recently got married and not even 5 minutes before, my dad told me I gained so much weight and how awful I look. I need to lose the weight before Christmas or at the very least 10 pounds of it. you probably don't know what it's like to have to literally hide yourself from your family because of your weight but it's awful, I've missed last Christmas, birthdays, Thanksgiving, etc and I can't keep on this way. no one will ever understand. I just wanted to advice and now I see that literally no one wants to help and it's cool. like I said I'll figure it out on my own. or either spend another holiday without going to see my family bc I just can't handle it. like thanks for making me feel even worse it's sure did help alot ..
If your family thinks you’re fat at 5’4”, 130 pounds, they have a problem.39 -
missysippy930 wrote: »Choose whatever works best for you. No matter which plan you choose, the only way to lose weight is to consume less calories than your body burns.
Do you have your own woo crew as well?2 -
I'm sorry to hear that your family makes inappropriate comments about your weight. That is not okay - but it is a reflection of issues that they have. I had to learn this when I dealt with people like this. Don't let people like that bring you down, including anyone on here.
As for using height and weight to determine a healthy BMI, that is a very oversimplified method of determining health and one that I wouldn't use. I would add some exercise to your daily habits and make healthier food choices to get started. Check out some of the groups here - I joined one for women over 200 lbs and it is a fabulous and very supportive group.
Good luck and big hugs to you!
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3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »nighthawk584 wrote: »3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »so when a fat person wants to lose 30 pounds it's cool, people want to help. but when I ask simple questions it's "seek help" 😂😂😂😂
The problem is, you will not take any critique at all from experienced people on this forum... This and another recent post of yours looks like you are seeking some quick fix non- sustainable and dangerous diets. What do you expect us to assume? We aren't going to cheer lead something like this! Good luck!
"quick fix, non-sustainable diets" um. no. im asking general questions about things I have heard about. yes im trying to quickly lose weight but after I lose at least half of it I was gonna take it more slow... I can't even go home for Christmas because my whole family relentless talks about my weight the whole time and ruins everything. I recently got married and not even 5 minutes before, my dad told me I gained so much weight and how awful I look. I need to lose the weight before Christmas or at the very least 10 pounds of it. you probably don't know what it's like to have to literally hide yourself from your family because of your weight but it's awful, I've missed last Christmas, birthdays, Thanksgiving, etc and I can't keep on this way. no one will ever understand. I just wanted to advice and now I see that literally no one wants to help and it's cool. like I said I'll figure it out on my own. or either spend another holiday without going to see my family bc I just can't handle it. like thanks for making me feel even worse it's sure did help alot ..
Your family’s a bunch of crap heads if they’re going to push such dangerous ideas about your body on you, and frankly you’re better off without them. 100lbs is NOT healthy for a woman your size. As others have mentioned you are exactly where you should be weight-wise, and you are NOT overweight. If shape is an issue, you want to focus on recomposition (swapping out fat for muscle). This can be done using a variety of ways from aerobics & calisthenics videos at home, to going all out with a personal trainer at a gym, depending on your time & budget.
Bear in mind this is coming from someone who has watched several loved ones develop or succumb to eat disorders. Your posts here are a mirror image of the attitudes they developed, including the hyperdefensiveness against legitimate concern for your wellbeing (undoubtedly a result of the mental and emotional abuse your “family” has been inflicting on you). When the folks here say you need help, they aren’t doing it because it’s fun. They are doing it because you are presenting as a textbook example of someone who develops an eating disorder and they want you to have the knowledge and tools to be healthy & happy.25 -
psychod787 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Choose whatever works best for you. No matter which plan you choose, the only way to lose weight is to consume less calories than your body burns.
Do you have your own woo crew as well?
There's definitely something going around. The most innocuous comments are getting it!8 -
psychod787 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Choose whatever works best for you. No matter which plan you choose, the only way to lose weight is to consume less calories than your body burns.
Do you have your own woo crew as well?
So it appears, but it doesn’t bother me. I’ve gotten really thick skin since I’ve been on MFP😁6 -
@MelanieCN77 @missysippy930 Ya'll are nice! I mean I'm kinda an @ hole, so I understand my crew.....13
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None of us are qualified to offer advice about moving from a healthy weight range to an underweight range via pretty intense calorie restriction. Someone in this thread already ran the numbers for you, and I ran them again, and right now your BMI is normal and your goal BMI would be underweight. People have tried to talk to you about recomp as an alternative, but that's not something you want. If you still feel that your weight numbers are bad, that we aren't understanding, you should talk to a doctor about your concerns.3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »so when a fat person wants to lose 30 pounds it's cool, people want to help. but when I ask simple questions it's "seek help" 😂😂😂😂
edit: And I just saw your post about your family.
If your family is being abusive to you about your weight, pushing yourself into the underweight category is just going to put your health at risk. Your family is acting as abusers, not as accurate representatives of a weight that is healthy for you. Your family should not be abusive to you no matter what weight you are at. They shouldn't abuse you if you were morbidly obese and the fact that they are abusing you while you are in the normal BMI range only drives home how completely this type of abuse isn't about weight at all. Their being abusive isn't a result of your weight, it's a result of their being abusive. This isn't your fault and it's not a result of what you are doing. I'm sorry if you need to stay away from them because of their abuse, but you aren't the problem in any way. My heart is with you.20 -
3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »nighthawk584 wrote: »3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »so when a fat person wants to lose 30 pounds it's cool, people want to help. but when I ask simple questions it's "seek help" 😂😂😂😂
The problem is, you will not take any critique at all from experienced people on this forum... This and another recent post of yours looks like you are seeking some quick fix non- sustainable and dangerous diets. What do you expect us to assume? We aren't going to cheer lead something like this! Good luck!
"quick fix, non-sustainable diets" um. no. im asking general questions about things I have heard about. yes im trying to quickly lose weight but after I lose at least half of it I was gonna take it more slow... I can't even go home for Christmas because my whole family relentless talks about my weight the whole time and ruins everything. I recently got married and not even 5 minutes before, my dad told me I gained so much weight and how awful I look. I need to lose the weight before Christmas or at the very least 10 pounds of it. you probably don't know what it's like to have to literally hide yourself from your family because of your weight but it's awful, I've missed last Christmas, birthdays, Thanksgiving, etc and I can't keep on this way. no one will ever understand. I just wanted to advice and now I see that literally no one wants to help and it's cool. like I said I'll figure it out on my own. or either spend another holiday without going to see my family bc I just can't handle it. like thanks for making me feel even worse it's sure did help alot ..
I do understand. I had an abusive family as well. The problem is not your weight, it’s your family. Just because they want you to become unhealthy doesn’t mean you have to do it. Look your dad in his eyes and say, “I’m sorry you would say such a thing to me, it really hurts my feelings. I’m not fat, I’m normal weight, and I don’t appreciate you pushing me to become anorexic. If you can’t treat me with respect I won’t be able to visit you anymore.”
You’re a grownup married lady now, and now is the time to make changes in how your family treats you. You are not the baby to be pushed around!
I know this isn’t easy at all, believe me. But I’m not kidding. Look yourself in the mirror and practice saying what you want to say. Rehearse when you want to say it. You have a spouse, which means you have a partner to back you up. Get your spouse to help you.
Did you know that being underweight is associated with an even higher rate of mortality than being overweight? You have to become morbidly obese - 100 lbs or so overweight - before you see a rate of mortality equal to that of being underweight. Being underweight is really not good for you. Losing weight in an unhealthy fashion, which you would have to do to quickly lose 30 lbs and get to a BMI of 17, is something that kills people, every day, all over the world. They literally DIE because of it, usually because of heart problems. That’s why people are telling you to seek help. It’s not because they don’t understand, it’s because they do understand.20 -
3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »so when a fat person wants to lose 30 pounds it's cool, people want to help. but when I ask simple questions it's "seek help" 😂😂😂😂
Um, yeah, when a fat person wants to lose weight it is cool, when a normal person wants to lose weight it’s potentially deadly. Like, actual death. You do get that, right? Your former weight wasn’t healthy for you. That you want to be unhealthy is a good reason to seek help. Also, you should seek help because your family is toxic and no one deserves to deal with a toxic family alone.21 -
3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »im asking general questions about things I have heard about. yes im trying to quickly lose weight but after I lose at least half of it I was gonna take it more slow... I can't even go home for Christmas because my whole family relentless talks about my weight the whole time and ruins everything. I recently got married and not even 5 minutes before, my dad told me I gained so much weight and how awful I look. I need to lose the weight before Christmas or at the very least 10 pounds of it. you probably don't know what it's like to have to literally hide yourself from your family because of your weight but it's awful, I've missed last Christmas, birthdays, Thanksgiving, etc and I can't keep on this way. no one will ever understand. I just wanted to advice and now I see that literally no one wants to help and it's cool. like I said I'll figure it out on my own. or either spend another holiday without going to see my family bc I just can't handle it. like thanks for making me feel even worse it's sure did help alot ..
Christmas is in 10 days. You are not going to lose 10 pounds of fat by Christmas, period, end of story. Doesn't matter whether you post here or not, starve yourself, work out all day, there is literally nothing you can do to lose 10 pounds of fat in 10 days. So, you have set yourself a goal that cannot be met, no matter what you do. I suggest you rethink that.
I think you would be very surprised to learn what others have been through in terms of hiding from family, doctors, high school reunions, whatever, due to weight. For me, it was running into some coworkers from way back in my up-and-coming mgmt/executive days in my 20's at an outdoor event some 20 years later - last time they'd seen me I was 5'11" and around 205 lbs and wearing svelte suits with a 36" waist; when I ran into them I was 330 lbs in size 50 jeans and my 3x shirt, or maybe it was a 4x. The experience was completely humiliating and I didn't want to go outdoors or see anyone from my past again for a very long time. I've done doctor avoidance and such, too. Everyone's got their stories and issues. Don't know if that makes you feel better or worse, but for better or worse, you don't own the shame and humiliation of obesity -- there's a lot of stockholders in that.19 -
Your family sounds toxic, unfortunately.
Did you add some weight recently because of non typical, for you, type of eating? I don't doubt you did. And I don't doubt that there might be some legitimate component to a slight correction to that, which is NOT what you're proposing.
You're angry because you're not receiving unconditional support in doing yourself additional harm.
Not only additional; but actually worse harm than either of the easily available options such as not losing weight, or not visiting your family if the visit causes such stress.
Self preservation comes before societal acceptance.
There will be a Christmas next year that you can approach with a healthy mind set if you choose to work hard to find and take advantage of any help you can get to sort out the toxic from the non toxic in your life.
Given the family situation you describe needing help is... human!
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So yeah, it looks like the OP went through and hit disagree on everyone telling her being underweight is still not okay and her family is not cool. I’m sorry but not surprised.
OP, if you ever get to a place where you want real help to become healthy and fit, not just thin (it’s My Fitness Pal not My Lose weight at any cost Pal) and maybe want some support making real, healthy changes in your life, we will be here for you.
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3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »nighthawk584 wrote: »3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »so when a fat person wants to lose 30 pounds it's cool, people want to help. but when I ask simple questions it's "seek help" 😂😂😂😂
The problem is, you will not take any critique at all from experienced people on this forum... This and another recent post of yours looks like you are seeking some quick fix non- sustainable and dangerous diets. What do you expect us to assume? We aren't going to cheer lead something like this! Good luck!
"quick fix, non-sustainable diets" um. no. im asking general questions about things I have heard about. yes im trying to quickly lose weight but after I lose at least half of it I was gonna take it more slow... I can't even go home for Christmas because my whole family relentless talks about my weight the whole time and ruins everything. I recently got married and not even 5 minutes before, my dad told me I gained so much weight and how awful I look. I need to lose the weight before Christmas or at the very least 10 pounds of it. you probably don't know what it's like to have to literally hide yourself from your family because of your weight but it's awful, I've missed last Christmas, birthdays, Thanksgiving, etc and I can't keep on this way. no one will ever understand. I just wanted to advice and now I see that literally no one wants to help and it's cool. like I said I'll figure it out on my own. or either spend another holiday without going to see my family bc I just can't handle it. like thanks for making me feel even worse it's sure did help alot ..
Talking specifically to the bold statement.
What most often happens is that you never get to the 'slowly' phase because the 'quickly' phase is so unsustainable that it fails before it completes. The value of a weight loss approach isn't measured in lbs or speed, but in ease and longevity. The slow, easy, effortless program that you can stick with long term is a billion times more effective than the fast method that only lasts a week, a month or even a year.10 -
3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »nighthawk584 wrote: »3v0l1s0m1283 wrote: »so when a fat person wants to lose 30 pounds it's cool, people want to help. but when I ask simple questions it's "seek help" 😂😂😂😂
The problem is, you will not take any critique at all from experienced people on this forum... This and another recent post of yours looks like you are seeking some quick fix non- sustainable and dangerous diets. What do you expect us to assume? We aren't going to cheer lead something like this! Good luck!
"quick fix, non-sustainable diets" um. no. im asking general questions about things I have heard about. yes im trying to quickly lose weight but after I lose at least half of it I was gonna take it more slow... I can'just t even go home for Christmas because my whole family relentless talks about my weight the whole time and ruins everything. I recently got married and not even 5 minutes before, my dad told me I gained so much weight and how awful I look. I need to lose the weight before Christmas or at the very least 10 pounds of it. you probably don't know what it's like to have to literally hide yourself from your family because of your weight but it's awful, I've missed last Christmas, birthdays, Thanksgiving, etc and I can't keep on this way. no one will ever understand. I just wanted to advice and now I see that literally no one wants to help and it's cool. like I said I'll figure it out on my own. or either spend another holiday without going to see my family bc I just can't handle it. like thanks for making me feel even worse it's sure did help alot ..
That's awful. But the problem isn't your weight. Your problem is a lack of boundaries. It's highly unlikely your family will start respecting you or your boundaries just because you lose weight. If they treat you like that, why do you feel you're "missing" time spent with them?12 -
I am in the calorie counting camp... But, it must be acknowledged that it doesn't tell you what nor how to eat. It just says "stop" at this point. I think more people like keto, because it has guidelines around "what" to eat instead of just when to stop eating (e.g. a calorie limit).4
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Keto has been amazing for me so far. There are so many things that have improved for me. It calmed down my anxiety, improved my sleep, improved my depression, helped me take control of my food addiction, put me completely in control of my actions and delivered amazing weight loss on top of it all. I feel a deep clarity. I was definitely eating too many carbs.4
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Also, as far as the drama in the thread goes, I don't understand why people are trying to stop you from losing weight or saying you NEED to eat at least 1200 calories. You're 130 lbs which means you got a little bit to lose for sure based on your own description of your weight gain, but 100 lbs sounds extreme to me. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, I can't tell, but I'm leaning towards too extreme. I say the best way to judge what you should be losing truly is by your body fat %. BMI isn't 100% accurate, everyone is different.2
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