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paperpudding wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »This was Friday - entire aisle of toilet paper down to 4 small packets.
yesterday (coudn't be bothered taking another photo) - totally empty
Every supermarket in town is the same.
I think there is next to zero chance of any disruption to South Australia tap water supply and I have a rain water tank anyway - but I had no problem buying 60 bottles of bottled water for our sports club. (that is as usual, nothing to do with coronavirus)
For some bizarre reason, Australians have just gotten totally carried away on the toilet paper hoarding
I don't understand this water thing. If you rely on bottled water for your drinking water supply it makes sense to always have a few weeks supply in case of emergency and top this up as you go along. If you were really paranoid about losing your water supply (which is only really likely as a result of a natural disaster than a virus) then just make sure you have a couple of large containers filled with water from your tap instead.
Oh I agree.
My buying of 60 bottles of water had nothing to do with hoarding and is something I do every few weeks all year for our sports club to sell to people playing sport.
My point in saying that was just to show nothing else other than hand sanitiser ( somewhat understandable ) and toilet paper ( not understandable but totally bizarre) seems to have been mass bought by the Australian public.
I knew that this was a regular purchase for your sporting club and fully agree that the hand sanitizer is what makes the most sense. In saying that 1 large bottle should be well and truly enough for the average household as this will give a few months supply.1 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »This was Friday - entire aisle of toilet paper down to 4 small packets.
yesterday (coudn't be bothered taking another photo) - totally empty
Every supermarket in town is the same.
I think there is next to zero chance of any disruption to South Australia tap water supply and I have a rain water tank anyway - but I had no problem buying 60 bottles of bottled water for our sports club. (that is as usual, nothing to do with coronavirus)
For some bizarre reason, Australians have just gotten totally carried away on the toilet paper hoarding
I really wish we still had the 'awesome' button (though, obviously not awesome for people who actually need loo paper!).
If you hover over the hug button it says "awesome," so often when I click hug I really mean awesome, like for the Stephen King graphic above
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Love it! Found the twitter thread and found this there:
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kshama2001 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »This was Friday - entire aisle of toilet paper down to 4 small packets.
yesterday (coudn't be bothered taking another photo) - totally empty
Every supermarket in town is the same.
I think there is next to zero chance of any disruption to South Australia tap water supply and I have a rain water tank anyway - but I had no problem buying 60 bottles of bottled water for our sports club. (that is as usual, nothing to do with coronavirus)
For some bizarre reason, Australians have just gotten totally carried away on the toilet paper hoarding
I really wish we still had the 'awesome' button (though, obviously not awesome for people who actually need loo paper!).
If you hover over the hug button it says "awesome," so often when I click hug I really mean awesome, like for the Stephen King graphic above
Yeah, I like to just pretend any hugs I get are actually meant as awesomes 5 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »Exactly @missysippy930 Hand hygiene and cough etiquette is imperative! For people who may think they have the virus they aren’t leper’s, which in my line of work I have found people feel they are. I also do hope people who are worried and have travelled to high risk countries and are symptomatic think of others before running to supermarkets, going out and about, rocking up to a large doctors clinic without putting a mask on ect I’m a nurse and have found that unfortunately people DONT adhere to instructions from health departments and put public at risk by not following instructions. I definitely won’t start buying millions of rolls of toilet paper, but I will be conscious of clean hands and real news from reputable sources, not face book. Still, it’s scary times
I really wish that doctor's office waiting areas, wouldn't have toys because healthy children just there for their routine visit then play with the same toys, that the children that're there because they're sick then also play with.DecadeDuchess wrote: »Exactly @missysippy930 Hand hygiene and cough etiquette is imperative! For people who may think they have the virus they aren’t leper’s, which in my line of work I have found people feel they are. I also do hope people who are worried and have travelled to high risk countries and are symptomatic think of others before running to supermarkets, going out and about, rocking up to a large doctors clinic without putting a mask on ect I’m a nurse and have found that unfortunately people DONT adhere to instructions from health departments and put public at risk by not following instructions. I definitely won’t start buying millions of rolls of toilet paper, but I will be conscious of clean hands and real news from reputable sources, not face book. Still, it’s scary times
I really wish that doctor's office waiting areas, wouldn't have toys because healthy children just there for their routine visit then play with the same toys, that the children that're there because they're sick then also play with.
I understand where yr coming from, the same can be said for the magazines that are left for people to browse, especially sick adults who read them and don’t wash their hands. The toys at my clinic are wiped with antibacterial wipes at the end of the day and during lunch and some times the wait to see a dr, dependant on a patients needs, can be long so kids get really bored unfortunately and I guess that’s all clinics can do to help parents cope with bored kids. Teaching kids hand hygiene can help as far as playing with toys, there’s plenty of hand sanitizer at our clinic and we’ve put posters up reminding everyone to use it.
Of course, adults also. That definitely helps, to minimize exposure. I never thought to bring a toy via home, when I was a child but once school began, we brought our homework. My Nephew's Mother did take 1 of her children's toys, to the emergency room, they didn't share it with anyone there & we disinfected it, afterwards.3 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I went to a party last night. Everyone was avoiding shaking hands or cheek kisses doing friendly waves instead. It was kinda good. Also before grabbing pizza people were washing hands. It was great.
I r.e.a.l.l.y. hope this starts to end all the touching between people in general.
Enough with your hugging, virtual strangers. Ick and ugh.
I love that your ick reaction to hugging virtual strangers is eliciting virtual hugs from Internet strangers.
I totally set that one up, didn't I?
Stahhhp hugging me!!!
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cmriverside wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I went to a party last night. Everyone was avoiding shaking hands or cheek kisses doing friendly waves instead. It was kinda good. Also before grabbing pizza people were washing hands. It was great.
I r.e.a.l.l.y. hope this starts to end all the touching between people in general.
Enough with your hugging, virtual strangers. Ick and ugh.
I love that your ick reaction to hugging virtual strangers is eliciting virtual hugs from Internet strangers.
I totally set that one up, didn't I?
Stahhhp hugging me!!!
Hugged again, just to be sure you feel the love
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ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I went to a party last night. Everyone was avoiding shaking hands or cheek kisses doing friendly waves instead. It was kinda good. Also before grabbing pizza people were washing hands. It was great.
I r.e.a.l.l.y. hope this starts to end all the touching between people in general.
Enough with your hugging, virtual strangers. Ick and ugh.
I love that your ick reaction to hugging virtual strangers is eliciting virtual hugs from Internet strangers.
I totally set that one up, didn't I?
Stahhhp hugging me!!!
Hugged again, just to be sure you feel the love
The final straw for me with stranger-hugs was this guy I see at the beach all the time.
I generally steer clear of him because he has boundary issues, and this one time...
He stops me to chat and as I'm trying to walk away he hugs me from the side - I never even saw it coming - with his beachy suntan oil and sweaty naked underarms.
Just. No.
That was the last time I got within six feet of him.8 -
cmriverside wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I went to a party last night. Everyone was avoiding shaking hands or cheek kisses doing friendly waves instead. It was kinda good. Also before grabbing pizza people were washing hands. It was great.
I r.e.a.l.l.y. hope this starts to end all the touching between people in general.
Enough with your hugging, virtual strangers. Ick and ugh.
I love that your ick reaction to hugging virtual strangers is eliciting virtual hugs from Internet strangers.
I totally set that one up, didn't I?
Stahhhp hugging me!!!
Hugged again, just to be sure you feel the love
The final straw for me with stranger-hugs was this guy I see at the beach all the time.
I generally steer clear of him because he has boundary issues, and this one time...
He stops me to chat and as I'm trying to walk away he hugs me from the side - I never even saw it coming - with his beachy suntan oil and sweaty naked underarms.
Just. No.
That was the last time I got within six feet of him.
Yuck! People like that just weird me out (and usually end up with a bruise after having warned them to keep their limbs to themselves)
Worse even than the guy telling me to smile cause I'd be prettier at the exit to the grocery store after having braved hoards of zombies panic buying 6 months worth of food. All I needed was a bottle of shampoo, some vitamin d and dad's favorite bbq sauce... nope. Not feeling the need to smile...3 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I went to a party last night. Everyone was avoiding shaking hands or cheek kisses doing friendly waves instead. It was kinda good. Also before grabbing pizza people were washing hands. It was great.
I r.e.a.l.l.y. hope this starts to end all the touching between people in general.
Enough with your hugging, virtual strangers. Ick and ugh.
I love that your ick reaction to hugging virtual strangers is eliciting virtual hugs from Internet strangers.
I totally set that one up, didn't I?
Stahhhp hugging me!!!
Hugged again, just to be sure you feel the love
The final straw for me with stranger-hugs was this guy I see at the beach all the time.
I generally steer clear of him because he has boundary issues, and this one time...
He stops me to chat and as I'm trying to walk away he hugs me from the side - I never even saw it coming - with his beachy suntan oil and sweaty naked underarms.
Just. No.
That was the last time I got within six feet of him.
Yuck! People like that just weird me out (and usually end up with a bruise after having warned them to keep their limbs to themselves)
Worse even than the guy telling me to smile cause I'd be prettier at the exit to the grocery store after having braved hoards of zombies panic buying 6 months worth of food. All I needed was a bottle of shampoo, some vitamin d and dad's favorite bbq sauce... nope. Not feeling the need to smile...
I've been going to the store at 6AM when they first open. No one except shelf-stockers are there! It's pretty awesome.4 -
cmriverside wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I went to a party last night. Everyone was avoiding shaking hands or cheek kisses doing friendly waves instead. It was kinda good. Also before grabbing pizza people were washing hands. It was great.
I r.e.a.l.l.y. hope this starts to end all the touching between people in general.
Enough with your hugging, virtual strangers. Ick and ugh.
I love that your ick reaction to hugging virtual strangers is eliciting virtual hugs from Internet strangers.
I totally set that one up, didn't I?
Stahhhp hugging me!!!
Hugged again, just to be sure you feel the love
The final straw for me with stranger-hugs was this guy I see at the beach all the time.
I generally steer clear of him because he has boundary issues, and this one time...
He stops me to chat and as I'm trying to walk away he hugs me from the side - I never even saw it coming - with his beachy suntan oil and sweaty naked underarms.
Just. No.
That was the last time I got within six feet of him.
Yuck! People like that just weird me out (and usually end up with a bruise after having warned them to keep their limbs to themselves)
Worse even than the guy telling me to smile cause I'd be prettier at the exit to the grocery store after having braved hoards of zombies panic buying 6 months worth of food. All I needed was a bottle of shampoo, some vitamin d and dad's favorite bbq sauce... nope. Not feeling the need to smile...
I've been going to the store at 6AM when they first open. No one except shelf-stockers are there! It's pretty awesome.
Ours open at 7am here, and it is the greatest time to go shopping, even when there aren't angry mobs hoarding TP.
I haven't been out in this much, but decided to pick up some ibuprofen the other night just after 11pm on my way home from work. It was nice and quiet, and the store seemed to still have supplies (although I didn't check for TP or hand sanitizer). That was the evening of our first announced presumptive case. We shall see what happens in the coming days.3 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I went to a party last night. Everyone was avoiding shaking hands or cheek kisses doing friendly waves instead. It was kinda good. Also before grabbing pizza people were washing hands. It was great.
I r.e.a.l.l.y. hope this starts to end all the touching between people in general.
Enough with your hugging, virtual strangers. Ick and ugh.
I love that your ick reaction to hugging virtual strangers is eliciting virtual hugs from Internet strangers.
I totally set that one up, didn't I?
Stahhhp hugging me!!!
Hugged again, just to be sure you feel the love
The final straw for me with stranger-hugs was this guy I see at the beach all the time.
I generally steer clear of him because he has boundary issues, and this one time...
He stops me to chat and as I'm trying to walk away he hugs me from the side - I never even saw it coming - with his beachy suntan oil and sweaty naked underarms.
Just. No.
That was the last time I got within six feet of him.
Yuck! People like that just weird me out (and usually end up with a bruise after having warned them to keep their limbs to themselves)
Worse even than the guy telling me to smile cause I'd be prettier at the exit to the grocery store after having braved hoards of zombies panic buying 6 months worth of food. All I needed was a bottle of shampoo, some vitamin d and dad's favorite bbq sauce... nope. Not feeling the need to smile...
Next time say, "Kicking you in the gonads would give me a reason to smile." 2 -
I'm musing about what fraction of of the public panic may be related to reading comprehension and numerical skills (or their lack).
Even in this thread, there's been some small tendency to mistake minor quibbles for major claims, well-marked joking comments for serious points (at least I thought they were well-marked
), observations of public fact for signs the poster was fostering or feeling panic, etc.
For sure, poor grasp of science is part of the reason public panic happens, and also part of the reason (alongside, perhaps, self-centeredness) that some argue that no public policy action whatsoever is necessary anywhere ever, and that we should just let the whole thing run an unfettered natural course.10 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I went to a party last night. Everyone was avoiding shaking hands or cheek kisses doing friendly waves instead. It was kinda good. Also before grabbing pizza people were washing hands. It was great.
I r.e.a.l.l.y. hope this starts to end all the touching between people in general.
Enough with your hugging, virtual strangers. Ick and ugh.
I love that your ick reaction to hugging virtual strangers is eliciting virtual hugs from Internet strangers.
I totally set that one up, didn't I?
Stahhhp hugging me!!!
Hugged again, just to be sure you feel the love
The final straw for me with stranger-hugs was this guy I see at the beach all the time.
I generally steer clear of him because he has boundary issues, and this one time...
He stops me to chat and as I'm trying to walk away he hugs me from the side - I never even saw it coming - with his beachy suntan oil and sweaty naked underarms.
Just. No.
That was the last time I got within six feet of him.
Yuck! People like that just weird me out (and usually end up with a bruise after having warned them to keep their limbs to themselves)
Worse even than the guy telling me to smile cause I'd be prettier at the exit to the grocery store after having braved hoards of zombies panic buying 6 months worth of food. All I needed was a bottle of shampoo, some vitamin d and dad's favorite bbq sauce... nope. Not feeling the need to smile...
UGH. I used to get that a lot when I was waitressing in the 80s. Not now that I'm older, rounder, and do not serve the public.1 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I went to a party last night. Everyone was avoiding shaking hands or cheek kisses doing friendly waves instead. It was kinda good. Also before grabbing pizza people were washing hands. It was great.
I r.e.a.l.l.y. hope this starts to end all the touching between people in general.
Enough with your hugging, virtual strangers. Ick and ugh.
I love that your ick reaction to hugging virtual strangers is eliciting virtual hugs from Internet strangers.
I totally set that one up, didn't I?
Stahhhp hugging me!!!
Hugged again, just to be sure you feel the love
The final straw for me with stranger-hugs was this guy I see at the beach all the time.
I generally steer clear of him because he has boundary issues, and this one time...
He stops me to chat and as I'm trying to walk away he hugs me from the side - I never even saw it coming - with his beachy suntan oil and sweaty naked underarms.
Just. No.
That was the last time I got within six feet of him.
Yuck! People like that just weird me out (and usually end up with a bruise after having warned them to keep their limbs to themselves)
Worse even than the guy telling me to smile cause I'd be prettier at the exit to the grocery store after having braved hoards of zombies panic buying 6 months worth of food. All I needed was a bottle of shampoo, some vitamin d and dad's favorite bbq sauce... nope. Not feeling the need to smile...
Next time say, "Kicking you in the gonads would give me a reason to smile."
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kshama2001 wrote: »
Love it! Found the twitter thread and found this there:
I can attest that 20 minutes does NOT work after cutting a pint of jalapenos for home canned salsa, even soaking in vinegar afterwards does not work. Yes, it helps a little when taking them out but they absorb enough of the oil that it takes a week of soaking them while changing the solution 2x a day to make them wearable again. These days I wouldn't bother but back in the late 80's when special high power toric lenses cost $180 a pair you bet I made the effort.
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My brother is totally opposite me on the political spectrum and occasionally falls for doomsday woo. A couple of years ago he bought tubs of food for a family of 4 for 2 months (his family was 2 at the time. He has since added a wife but his daughter is attending college out of state so he is basically 2 with a maybe 3rd). The stuff is supposed to be good for 20 years.
I have been teasing him about it ever since. I am hoping I won't have to eat my words.
I actually ordered free samples from the company thinking it might not be a bad idea to get a 1 person, 1 month tub since I do live in an area that occasionally gets tornadoes and blizzards. I was also thinking the food would be handy for camping and/or backpacking. The stuff was so salty it made my mouth hurt so no thanks.2 -
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Just caught up on this thread. I'll give you news from Rome. We're pretty much in quarantine. Closings: Gyms, pools, health centers, pubs, museums, archeological sites, masses (churches will be open for personal prayer only), restaurants and coffee bars will be closing at 6 in the evening, tours of any kind, marathons, sporting events, schools, universities, ...... the list is very long. I'm enjoying your comments, because that's what I thought a week or two ago. Things have changed radically. This is very serious--no joke. China did not build a huge new hospital in 10 days because of propaganda. Flights are not being cancelled on a whim. Northern Italy does not have enough hospital beds or equipment, or personal to handle this. An older immunologist said he had never seen anything like it. Am I panicking? No, we're in the soup now and will see it through. I got in a nice long swim this morning and it will be the last one for quite a while.
My advice. Panicking causes lots of problems. So don't do it. Follow the indications given by your government. This is not going to be over soon. We are assured that grocery stores will be replenished. Old and the infirm are asked to stay home as much as possible. There's nowhere to go right now anyway. Anyone with a fever and or cough is to call their doctor and not to go to the emergency room. Will keep you abreast of happenings in Italy. Is the economy going to hell--oh yes. Sigh. It wasn't that great to begin with.39 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Just caught up on this thread. I'll give you news from Rome. We're pretty much in quarantine. Closings: Gyms, pools, health centers, pubs, museums, archeological sites, masses (churches will be open for personal prayer only), restaurants and coffee bars will be closing at 6 in the evening, tours of any kind, marathons, sporting events, schools, universities, ...... the list is very long. I'm enjoying your comments, because that's what I thought a week or two ago. Things have changed radically. This is very serious--no joke. China did not build a huge new hospital in 10 days because of propaganda. Flights are not being cancelled on a whim. Northern Italy does not have enough hospital beds or equipment, or personal to handle this. An older immunologist said he had never seen anything like it. Am I panicking? No, we're in the soup now and will see it through. I got in a nice long swim this morning and it will be the last one for quite a while.
My advice. Panicking causes lots of problems. So don't do it. Follow the indications given by your government. This is not going to be over soon. We are assured that grocery stores will be replenished. Old and the infirm are asked to stay home as much as possible. There's nowhere to go right now anyway. Anyone with a fever and or cough is to call their doctor and not to go to the emergency room. Will keep you abreast of happenings in Italy. Is the economy going to hell--oh yes. Sigh. It wasn't that great to begin with.
Thank you for sharing this. I hope you able to stay safe and well.5 -
cmriverside wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I went to a party last night. Everyone was avoiding shaking hands or cheek kisses doing friendly waves instead. It was kinda good. Also before grabbing pizza people were washing hands. It was great.
I r.e.a.l.l.y. hope this starts to end all the touching between people in general.
Enough with your hugging, virtual strangers. Ick and ugh.
I love that your ick reaction to hugging virtual strangers is eliciting virtual hugs from Internet strangers.
I totally set that one up, didn't I?
Stahhhp hugging me!!!
The hugging will continue until morale improves.6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Just caught up on this thread. I'll give you news from Rome. We're pretty much in quarantine. Closings: Gyms, pools, health centers, pubs, museums, archeological sites, masses (churches will be open for personal prayer only), restaurants and coffee bars will be closing at 6 in the evening, tours of any kind, marathons, sporting events, schools, universities, ...... the list is very long. I'm enjoying your comments, because that's what I thought a week or two ago. Things have changed radically. This is very serious--no joke. China did not build a huge new hospital in 10 days because of propaganda. Flights are not being cancelled on a whim. Northern Italy does not have enough hospital beds or equipment, or personal to handle this. An older immunologist said he had never seen anything like it. Am I panicking? No, we're in the soup now and will see it through. I got in a nice long swim this morning and it will be the last one for quite a while.
My advice. Panicking causes lots of problems. So don't do it. Follow the indications given by your government. This is not going to be over soon. We are assured that grocery stores will be replenished. Old and the infirm are asked to stay home as much as possible. There's nowhere to go right now anyway. Anyone with a fever and or cough is to call their doctor and not to go to the emergency room. Will keep you abreast of happenings in Italy. Is the economy going to hell--oh yes. Sigh. It wasn't that great to begin with.
Hugs and well wishes from a northern neighbor (Switzerland)! We're waiting and hoping, but also knowing that the disease is already here and will probably soon become intractable.6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Just caught up on this thread. I'll give you news from Rome. We're pretty much in quarantine. Closings: Gyms, pools, health centers, pubs, museums, archeological sites, masses (churches will be open for personal prayer only), restaurants and coffee bars will be closing at 6 in the evening, tours of any kind, marathons, sporting events, schools, universities, ...... the list is very long. I'm enjoying your comments, because that's what I thought a week or two ago. Things have changed radically. This is very serious--no joke. China did not build a huge new hospital in 10 days because of propaganda. Flights are not being cancelled on a whim. Northern Italy does not have enough hospital beds or equipment, or personal to handle this. An older immunologist said he had never seen anything like it. Am I panicking? No, we're in the soup now and will see it through. I got in a nice long swim this morning and it will be the last one for quite a while.
My advice. Panicking causes lots of problems. So don't do it. Follow the indications given by your government. This is not going to be over soon. We are assured that grocery stores will be replenished. Old and the infirm are asked to stay home as much as possible. There's nowhere to go right now anyway. Anyone with a fever and or cough is to call their doctor and not to go to the emergency room. Will keep you abreast of happenings in Italy. Is the economy going to hell--oh yes. Sigh. It wasn't that great to begin with.
Thanks for the report. Virtual hugs.6 -
After seeing the drama over hand sanitizer I started going through the house collecting all the little bottles I've bought and forgot about over the years, and let me tell you I could make a fortune on Ebay if I wasn't hoarding them for myself
Me too! I found them in old travel carryons, under bathroom sinks, under car seats. Yay! Found several in my grown kids rooms since they never would use it!6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Just caught up on this thread. I'll give you news from Rome. We're pretty much in quarantine. Closings: Gyms, pools, health centers, pubs, museums, archeological sites, masses (churches will be open for personal prayer only), restaurants and coffee bars will be closing at 6 in the evening, tours of any kind, marathons, sporting events, schools, universities, ...... the list is very long. I'm enjoying your comments, because that's what I thought a week or two ago. Things have changed radically. This is very serious--no joke. China did not build a huge new hospital in 10 days because of propaganda. Flights are not being cancelled on a whim. Northern Italy does not have enough hospital beds or equipment, or personal to handle this. An older immunologist said he had never seen anything like it. Am I panicking? No, we're in the soup now and will see it through. I got in a nice long swim this morning and it will be the last one for quite a while.
My advice. Panicking causes lots of problems. So don't do it. Follow the indications given by your government. This is not going to be over soon. We are assured that grocery stores will be replenished. Old and the infirm are asked to stay home as much as possible. There's nowhere to go right now anyway. Anyone with a fever and or cough is to call their doctor and not to go to the emergency room. Will keep you abreast of happenings in Italy. Is the economy going to hell--oh yes. Sigh. It wasn't that great to begin with.
Stay safe and thanks for updating us. I agree with everything you said except the follow my govt. part. That will get me killed. I will try to find viable sites such as WHO and local health advisors. etc that might be more accurate.
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I wrote the part about the government because they're trying to contain the northern outbreak by extending the quarantine. People found out about it late at night and those that live in the rest of Italy, especially college students, quickly packed up and flooded the train stations in the middle of the night and left Milan. They can be contagious and may spread the virus far and wide. Italians are used to doing what they want--the rules are for others, so now to see what happens.9
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It’s in Memphis now, they announced a case earlier today. They are treating the case at Baptist hospital. My concern is that I’ve had many relatives in and out of Baptist and been in myself so I know they are just downright slap-happy about contagion - my dad got MRSA there, my mom kept getting urinary tract infections while recovering from major surgery, I constantly had to ask people to put on gloves before handling various lines and usually got an eye-roll in response.
I did witness a lady yesterday cough into her elbow, for the first time ever. Not that she had sense enough not to go out to eat even though she had a constant dry cough, but this is literally the first time I’ve ever seen a local person make a real effort to cover a cough. So... progress?
Also, washing my hands in the restroom next to two other ladies and handwashing has become sincere instead of a performative act. Both ladies were cursing the sinks at Shelby Farms which are made so it’s almost impossible to wash your hands properly. You bonk the top of the faucet and it comes on for about five seconds in a tiny dribble, then automatically shuts off. Also the faucet is so short that you have to bend your wrists and try really hard not to touch the side of the sink while holding your hands under the water. And there are never paper towels in the ladies’. As someone who washes hands I have known this for a while but it was new to everyone else who was just doing the “token finger dip” previously.
There’s a permanent professional sign next to the sinks bragging about how they are brand new and water efficient. “How are we supposed to get our hands clean if we keep having to touch this thing?” one lady complained. “If we’re supposed to wash for 20 seconds, why doesn’t the faucet stay on for that long?”
It is a mystery, dear lady. Truly a mystery.11 -
People here in the Seattle area may find ourselves in the same situation in a couple weeks.
I hope that the Italian travel quarantine and other measures can help slow it down for you, snowflake. I mean, everyone is doing the best they can and missteps ARE going to happen. Everyone is on edge.4 -
rheddmobile wrote: »It’s in Memphis now, they announced a case earlier today. They are treating the case at Baptist hospital. My concern is that I’ve had many relatives in and out of Baptist and been in myself so I know they are just downright slap-happy about contagion - my dad got MRSA there, my mom kept getting urinary tract infections while recovering from major surgery, I constantly had to ask people to put on gloves before handling various lines and usually got an eye-roll in response.
I did witness a lady yesterday cough into her elbow, for the first time ever. Not that she had sense enough not to go out to eat even though she had a constant dry cough, but this is literally the first time I’ve ever seen a local person make a real effort to cover a cough. So... progress?
Also, washing my hands in the restroom next to two other ladies and handwashing has become sincere instead of a performative act. Both ladies were cursing the sinks at Shelby Farms which are made so it’s almost impossible to wash your hands properly. You bonk the top of the faucet and it comes on for about five seconds in a tiny dribble, then automatically shuts off. Also the faucet is so short that you have to bend your wrists and try really hard not to touch the side of the sink while holding your hands under the water. And there are never paper towels in the ladies’. As someone who washes hands I have known this for a while but it was new to everyone else who was just doing the “token finger dip” previously.
There’s a permanent professional sign next to the sinks bragging about how they are brand new and water efficient. “How are we supposed to get our hands clean if we keep having to touch this thing?” one lady complained. “If we’re supposed to wash for 20 seconds, why doesn’t the faucet stay on for that long?”
It is a mystery, dear lady. Truly a mystery.
It's the soaping/scrubbing part that needs to be 20 seconds, not having your hands under water.
1) wet hands (turn tap off after to conserve water)
2) apply soap
3) soap/rub hands whilst singing your favourite hand washing tune (my personal favs are the choruses to Raspberry Beret, Jolene, Africa, and Never Gonna Give You Up)
4) rinse off soap under running water
5) dry hands thoroughly
It does sound like those taps are a pain for the rinsing part, though!6 -
I really hate those sinks where the water stops so quickly.6
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