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GotYR06
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This is going to be impossible for me! I need quick abs easy meals and I love bread and carbs! 🤦🏼♀️
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If you love bread and carbs why do keto? Why not track your calories, and continue to eat bread.17
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Eat bread and carbs then. Keto isn't a magic bullet.16
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Keto isn't necessary to lose weight. People can lose, maintain, or gain weight on keto. All you need to lose weight is a calorie deficit.
I'd rethink the "quick abs." No one needs quick abs.
Well, perhaps if you were a movie star and needed them for a role. But in that case you'd have a whole team helping you with that and wouldn't need to be asking for quick meals. But here's one anyway - rib-eye steak, spinach, and butter.11 -
I think OP meant to say "quick and easy" but I could be wrong!5
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kshama2001 wrote: »
well that's the dream isn't it!!10 -
probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.1
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xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Or keep the bread if it is something you enjoy and something you know you will crave if you don't have it. The best way of losing weight is the one that you can adhere to long term, well into maintenance. It isn't just about losing weight but how to keep that weight off indefinitely once you achieve your goal. Don't make changes that you know you won't stick with. This just leads to yoyo dieting for most.16 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Or keep the bread if it is something you enjoy and something you know you will crave if you don't have it. The best way of losing weight is the one that you can adhere to long term, well into maintenance. It isn't just about losing weight but how to keep that weight off indefinitely once you achieve your goal. Don't make changes that you know you won't stick with. This just leads to yoyo dieting for most.
by that way of thinking, why give up anything you crave if it's going to cause discomfort. and why even make changes to your diet or lifestyle at all.
there was once a time when i thought there were many foods i couldn't live without, including ice cream, starchy vegetables, pasta, and bread too. that was until i found out i could live without them.
of course it'll take time to overcome cravings, and instead follow your good sense, and choose nutritionally dense foods. it won't happen overnight. but replacing the junk with nutritionally dense lower carb food should still be a long term goal. and until that time happens portion control should be exercised.5 -
xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Or keep the bread if it is something you enjoy and something you know you will crave if you don't have it. The best way of losing weight is the one that you can adhere to long term, well into maintenance. It isn't just about losing weight but how to keep that weight off indefinitely once you achieve your goal. Don't make changes that you know you won't stick with. This just leads to yoyo dieting for most.
by that way of thinking, why give up anything you crave if it's going to cause discomfort. and why even make changes to your diet or lifestyle at all.
there was once a time when i thought there were many foods i couldn't live without, including ice cream, starchy vegetables, pasta, and bread too. that was until i found out i could live without them.
of course it'll take time to overcome cravings, and instead follow your good sense, and choose nutritionally dense foods. it won't happen overnight. but replacing the junk with nutritionally dense lower carb food should still be a long term goal. and until that time happens portion control should be exercised.
Exactly, why arbitrarily give up anything you crave if you feel better moderating it? That's how I lost the weight. I didn't give up anything, but I changed how much and/or how often I consume it. Some things felt better to lightly moderate, other things felt better to strictly moderate. If it causes less discomfort than the alternative but the end result is the same, why pick the harder route?
I mean, yes, anyone can give up anything they choose and get used to that, but the question is: do they need to? Does it make their life easier? Is the change sustainable? Will being exposed to these foods feel harder or easier when they give them up (like in the case of social eating, for example)? All of these questions are worth asking because the best change is the easiest change you can make to achieve your goal and sustain it.
Giving up bread and starchy carbs, in my case, would interfere with my goal of weight maintenance because they fill me up the most and I'm more likely to feel hungry without them.16 -
xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Limited nutritional value? Mine gives me 8g of protein and 6g of fibre among other things. Not to mention I love it, it gives me energy, keeps me full and is a great vehicle for my peanut butter and jam.18 -
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I didn't do keto. I just did healthy. Brought my diet back into balance. Less bread sugar processed foods. More fruits and fresh veg and monitor calories.7
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xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Limited nutritional value? Mine gives me 8g of protein and 6g of fibre among other things. Not to mention I love it, it gives me energy, keeps me full and is a great vehicle for my peanut butter and jam.
ok, now compare it to a half cup of cooked spinach or cruciferous vegetable, not to mention what it does to blood sugar levels.
bread is not compatible with a keto diet. one slice contains half a days carbo's allowed.2 -
xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Limited nutritional value? Mine gives me 8g of protein and 6g of fibre among other things. Not to mention I love it, it gives me energy, keeps me full and is a great vehicle for my peanut butter and jam.
ok, now compare it to a half cup of spinach or cruciferous vegetable, not to mention what it does to blood sugar levels.
bread is not compatible with a keto diet. one slice contains half a days carbo's allowed.
Carbs = energy source
Fat = energy source
Personally, I can't have more than 60g fat/day due to malabsorption issues (not worth the GI-Distress that causes). I can push it to 70g on a good day. But not 2-3 days in a row.
If I already have to restrict one energy source, why in the world would I severely restrict a second one just because someone thinks bread is some kind of evil? I want to lose weight, not end up malnourished.
Keto is not a universal truth. It doesn't suit everyone. Just because it suits your life, doesn't mean that it will suit everyone else.12 -
xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Limited nutritional value? Mine gives me 8g of protein and 6g of fibre among other things. Not to mention I love it, it gives me energy, keeps me full and is a great vehicle for my peanut butter and jam.
ok, now compare it to a half cup of spinach or cruciferous vegetable, not to mention what it does to blood sugar levels.
bread is not compatible with a keto diet. one slice contains half a days carbo's allowed.
Compare half a cup of spinach or cruciferous vegetables to a vitamin pill and a fiber supplement for fewer calories. Nutrition is only one part of a good diet, but it isn't the only part. Sometimes I want cruciferous vegetables (although half a cup would be too little for me, I usually have at least 2 cups - meaning I'm very likely to go over carbs on keto just through vegetables), but other times I want bread. Bread makes me happy and fills me up, so why on earth would I want to give it up? I love spinach and vegetables but they don't "stick". I'm hungry an hour later. My overall nutrition is balanced and I get enough of most nutrients. I'm not going to give up something that makes me happy just to brag about vitamin rich pee.
Bread is not compatible with keto diet, and it's one of the reasons (among many others) why it's not for me, and it doesn't have to be. Not everyone thrives on the same diet.14 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Or keep the bread if it is something you enjoy and something you know you will crave if you don't have it. The best way of losing weight is the one that you can adhere to long term, well into maintenance. It isn't just about losing weight but how to keep that weight off indefinitely once you achieve your goal. Don't make changes that you know you won't stick with. This just leads to yoyo dieting for most.
by that way of thinking, why give up anything you crave if it's going to cause discomfort. and why even make changes to your diet or lifestyle at all.
there was once a time when i thought there were many foods i couldn't live without, including ice cream, starchy vegetables, pasta, and bread too. that was until i found out i could live without them.
of course it'll take time to overcome cravings, and instead follow your good sense, and choose nutritionally dense foods. it won't happen overnight. but replacing the junk with nutritionally dense lower carb food should still be a long term goal. and until that time happens portion control should be exercised.
Exactly, why arbitrarily give up anything you crave if you feel better moderating it? That's how I lost the weight. I didn't give up anything, but I changed how much and/or how often I consume it. Some things felt better to lightly moderate, other things felt better to strictly moderate. If it causes less discomfort than the alternative but the end result is the same, why pick the harder route?
I mean, yes, anyone can give up anything they choose and get used to that, but the question is: do they need to? Does it make their life easier? Is the change sustainable? Will being exposed to these foods feel harder or easier when they give them up (like in the case of social eating, for example)? All of these questions are worth asking because the best change is the easiest change you can make to achieve your goal and sustain it.
Giving up bread and starchy carbs, in my case, would interfere with my goal of weight maintenance because they fill me up the most and I'm more likely to feel hungry without them.
i'm not saying you can't lose weight on other diets, but bread is simply not compatible with the op's keto diet or even low carb diet. it contains too many carbs.
i started out on a low calorie diet, low fat diet, and did lose weight, but my diet was lacking important nutrients, while consuming to much of the of the not so good nutrients like sodium and sugar, and i also felt like i was half starving myself all the time. once i changed to low carbohydrate and higher fat, i was able to eat a much higher quantity of food, enabling me to obtain high amounts of all the important nutrients, and never feel hungry. i completely lost every trace of my love handles, and have the body type of a fit 19 year old, and a bmi in the 19 range.
to maintain lean weight in a healthy way, you need to emphasize food quality first of all.
500 calories from bread and 500 calories from an avocado and a few eggs are entirely different. they have the same amount of energy, but the nutrients found in avocado and eggs far exceed the minuscule amount of nutrients that bread has. on keto, Meat Fish Dairy Eggs Vegetables Fruit (especially avocado, olives, berries) are acceptable.
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ladyreva78 wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Limited nutritional value? Mine gives me 8g of protein and 6g of fibre among other things. Not to mention I love it, it gives me energy, keeps me full and is a great vehicle for my peanut butter and jam.
ok, now compare it to a half cup of spinach or cruciferous vegetable, not to mention what it does to blood sugar levels.
bread is not compatible with a keto diet. one slice contains half a days carbo's allowed.
Carbs = energy source
Fat = energy source
Personally, I can't have more than 60g fat/day due to malabsorption issues (not worth the GI-Distress that causes). I can push it to 70g on a good day. But not 2-3 days in a row.
If I already have to restrict one energy source, why in the world would I severely restrict a second one just because someone thinks bread is some kind of evil? I want to lose weight, not end up malnourished.
Keto is not a universal truth. It doesn't suit everyone. Just because it suits your life, doesn't mean that it will suit everyone else.
the op made no mention of having malabsorption issues, nor did i say a keto or low carb diet is for everyone. this thread relates to the op, who title the thread, keto. if you wish to discuss your personal issues, and keto, maybe start a thread on it.2 -
xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Or keep the bread if it is something you enjoy and something you know you will crave if you don't have it. The best way of losing weight is the one that you can adhere to long term, well into maintenance. It isn't just about losing weight but how to keep that weight off indefinitely once you achieve your goal. Don't make changes that you know you won't stick with. This just leads to yoyo dieting for most.
by that way of thinking, why give up anything you crave if it's going to cause discomfort. and why even make changes to your diet or lifestyle at all.
there was once a time when i thought there were many foods i couldn't live without, including ice cream, starchy vegetables, pasta, and bread too. that was until i found out i could live without them.
of course it'll take time to overcome cravings, and instead follow your good sense, and choose nutritionally dense foods. it won't happen overnight. but replacing the junk with nutritionally dense lower carb food should still be a long term goal. and until that time happens portion control should be exercised.
Exactly, why arbitrarily give up anything you crave if you feel better moderating it? That's how I lost the weight. I didn't give up anything, but I changed how much and/or how often I consume it. Some things felt better to lightly moderate, other things felt better to strictly moderate. If it causes less discomfort than the alternative but the end result is the same, why pick the harder route?
I mean, yes, anyone can give up anything they choose and get used to that, but the question is: do they need to? Does it make their life easier? Is the change sustainable? Will being exposed to these foods feel harder or easier when they give them up (like in the case of social eating, for example)? All of these questions are worth asking because the best change is the easiest change you can make to achieve your goal and sustain it.
Giving up bread and starchy carbs, in my case, would interfere with my goal of weight maintenance because they fill me up the most and I'm more likely to feel hungry without them.
i'm not saying you can't lose weight on other diets, but bread is simply not compatible with the op's keto diet or even low carb diet. it contains too many carbs.
i started out on a low calorie diet, low fat diet, and did lose weight, but my diet was lacking important nutrients, while consuming to much of the of the not so good nutrients like sodium and sugar, and i also felt like i was half starving myself all the time. once i changed to low carbohydrate and higher fat, i was able to eat a much higher quantity of food, enabling me to obtain high amounts of all the important nutrients, and never feel hungry. i completely lost every trace of my love handles, and have the body type of a fit 19 year old, and a bmi in the 19 range.
to maintain lean weight in a healthy way, you need to emphasize food quality first of all.
500 calories from bread and 500 calories from an avocado and a few eggs are entirely different. they have the same amount of energy, but the nutrients found in avocado and eggs far exceed the minuscule amount of nutrients that bread has. on keto, Meat Fish Dairy Eggs Vegetables Fruit (especially avocado, olives, berries) are acceptable.
To have a healthy diet you need to have a good balance of nutrients. This can be achieved with or without keto. Your experience is important because it's yours. It simply means you do better eating a keto diet. Not everyone shares your experience. I was starving all the time on keto when I tried it.
You can't really compare individual foods because most people's diets are made up of several foods. The comparison is also highly skewed to show the benefits of a certain eating philosophy. Why aren't you comparing 500 calories of bread (which does have a variety of nutrients) to 500 calories of oil or butter (which have a poor variety of nutrients but are compatible with keto)? Why aren't you comparing 500 calories of beans (which are highly nutritious but not compatible with keto) to 500 calories of bacon grease?15 -
xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »xxxpopeyexxx wrote: »probably should go low carb, @100 grams/day, but still lose the bread. it's of limited nutritional value. vegetables are quick and easy. just needs proper dressing and/or seasoning. as are nuts, legumes and dairy.
Limited nutritional value? Mine gives me 8g of protein and 6g of fibre among other things. Not to mention I love it, it gives me energy, keeps me full and is a great vehicle for my peanut butter and jam.
ok, now compare it to a half cup of spinach or cruciferous vegetable, not to mention what it does to blood sugar levels.
bread is not compatible with a keto diet. one slice contains half a days carbo's allowed.
Carbs = energy source
Fat = energy source
Personally, I can't have more than 60g fat/day due to malabsorption issues (not worth the GI-Distress that causes). I can push it to 70g on a good day. But not 2-3 days in a row.
If I already have to restrict one energy source, why in the world would I severely restrict a second one just because someone thinks bread is some kind of evil? I want to lose weight, not end up malnourished.
Keto is not a universal truth. It doesn't suit everyone. Just because it suits your life, doesn't mean that it will suit everyone else.
the op made no mention of having malabsorption issues, nor did i say a keto or low carb diet is for everyone. this thread relates to the op, who title the thread, keto. if you wish to discuss your personal issues, and keto, maybe start a thread on it.
No. OP did not mention malabsorption issues. Only that keto seems impossible to her.
Why insist on something that seems impossible to someone when there's other alternatives?
My point was to illustrate that keto isn't for everyone and isn't necessary...13
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