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missysippy930 wrote: »Some good, and not so good news.
Scary statistic, gun/ammo sales up 41% in the US in March.
The US will no longer ship medical devices/supplies for fighting Covid 19 to other countries, while the need here is so great (duh).
China sends 1,000,000 medical masks to US.
It only makes sense. I don’t know about other places, but police here are only responding to calls with injuries. Every day I get NextDoor alerts about cars being broken into, basement windows damaged, Ring photos, it’s crazy. What I’ve realized is that I’m completely alone for the duration of this mess. No one to hear me if I scream No one to back me up. No one to call for help if I can’t.
Damn straight I’m stocking self defense supplies every bit as mindfully as I am cleaning supplies and food.
Being home all day I've remarked to friends how often I see a cop car pass. I actually feel more protected than before.
Our first CPD officer death was reported yesterday, however.3 -
Thanks for this thread everyone 😊 I'm trying to limit my news exposure due to anxiety provoking click bait and I'm finding I can get all the information I need here along with thoughtful discussion and interesting articles to read.
So far no cases in my little San Francisco bay area city, but there are cases in the north end of the county heading relentlessly south, so it will get here soon. Most people seem to be taking the lockdown seriously so hopefully things won't be too bad when it hits. We don't have a lot of hospital beds.
I'm handling the lockdown fairly well but I'm having anxiety attacks because I need urgent surgery for a growth in my sinus at UCSF, and it's been delayed due to the virus. The surgery itself will be traumatic (removing a large chunk of my sinus with possibility that patching will fail). I've been in lockdown for over two weeks and am virus free, but will be exposed while in SF and will have to wait another two weeks during recovery to see if I got infected. I'm healthy but at 69 I'm more at risk. I'm trying to keep my mind busy but I'm not doing such a good job. 😔
I was looking for paper towels on Amazon yesterday and they're still out but plenty of third parties selling it for $29.99 for two rolls. I thought they were going through and eliminating gouging but it must be like playing whack-a-mole 😔16 -
missysippy930 wrote: »Some good, and not so good news.
Scary statistic, gun/ammo sales up 41% in the US in March.
The US will no longer ship medical devices/supplies for fighting Covid 19 to other countries, while the need here is so great (duh).
China sends 1,000,000 medical masks to US.
It only makes sense. I don’t know about other places, but police here are only responding to calls with injuries. Every day I get NextDoor alerts about cars being broken into, basement windows damaged, Ring photos, it’s crazy. What I’ve realized is that I’m completely alone for the duration of this mess. No one to hear me if I scream No one to back me up. No one to call for help if I can’t.
Damn straight I’m stocking self defense supplies every bit as mindfully as I am cleaning supplies and food.
Being home all day I've remarked to friends how often I see a cop car pass. I actually feel more protected than before.
Our first CPD officer death was reported yesterday, however.
It’s been just the opposite here. I live near a McDonald’s and as trite as it sounds, I used to see a lot of law enforcement traffic there—I mean, they DO have bathrooms and coffee there, lol. I see significantly fewer these days. Maybe they’re still cruising and I just don’t see them since the dining room at McDonald’s is closed, but I’m guessing not since graffiti and car window smashing is increasing.
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I can't give you cites because my source was listening to NPR and BBC on radio, but I believe there's a new study out in just the last few days showing potentially-infecting particles from coughs/sneezes traveling much farther than previously thought (like twice as far), plus some fairly new information about the nature of virus shedding by people who are still asymptomatic.
You are referring to this, I believe https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763852?appId=scweb
and this https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/31/824155179/cdc-director-on-models-for-the-months-to-come-this-virus-is-going-to-be-with-us
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Thank you. The JAMA paper sounds like it may be what I heard mentioned in passing, and while I don't think I heard the Redfield interview or a focused news item about it, that's consistent with what I did hear in the reports.
Normally, if I hear something on NPR/BBC/other audio source, I can find the story in a text or audio snip on their web sites, and would include it in a post. In this case, I hadn't zeroed in on the radio items for follow up when it occurred, had the radio on all day, had no idea what service/program mentioned it. Appreciate you being a better researcher! :flowerforyou:
Shifting gears:
Throughout all of this rapidly evolving public-policy response, I'm aware that we (including me) sometimes aren't able to acknowledge in our guts that scientists and public officials are human beings, who, like us, can be confused, communicate poorly, change their minds (and should, BTW), and generally make mistakes. Keeping that in mind is especially difficult in a context where some officials clearly are negligent, willfully ill-informed or self-dealing actors. (I won't go further than the generality, avoiding the politics prohibition here - and my intent is not partisan anyway, as IMO all large-scale groups include a segment of idiots and scoundrels.)
Of course, their mistakes are high-stakes and incredibly costly (in lives!) at a time like this. They've taken on the job (like doctors, or police, or others whose jobs routinely involve life and death matters), so we can hold them to high standards, but holding them to inhumanly high standards is just unrealistic. (Not saying we can't or shouldn't hold them accountable for even well-intended actions that turn out to have disastrous consequences. We can, and should. With some compassion, IMO. Any decent human who makes a deadly error, and realizes it, has a burden of conscience, as well, possibly life-long.)
Just my dumb opinions, as usual.4 -
missysippy930 wrote: »Some good, and not so good news.
Scary statistic, gun/ammo sales up 41% in the US in March.
The US will no longer ship medical devices/supplies for fighting Covid 19 to other countries, while the need here is so great (duh).
China sends 1,000,000 medical masks to US.
I have had 3 guns on consignment for 5 months. All 3 sold last week at my full asking price. I still have more if someone comes looking for my supply of hand sanitizer.
Was that year over year or Feb. vs March? If the latter some of that bump may just be the weather warming.3 -
missysippy930 wrote: »Some good, and not so good news.
Scary statistic, gun/ammo sales up 41% in the US in March.
The US will no longer ship medical devices/supplies for fighting Covid 19 to other countries, while the need here is so great (duh).
China sends 1,000,000 medical masks to US.
It only makes sense. I don’t know about other places, but police here are only responding to calls with injuries. Every day I get NextDoor alerts about cars being broken into, basement windows damaged, Ring photos, it’s crazy. What I’ve realized is that I’m completely alone for the duration of this mess. No one to hear me if I scream No one to back me up. No one to call for help if I can’t.
Damn straight I’m stocking self defense supplies every bit as mindfully as I am cleaning supplies and food.
The NextDoor alerts here have been about bike and package thefts. I'm glad we live in a condo complex and the delivery folks bring packages right to our door (an inside-the-building corridor) and then knock or ring the doorbell (we're always home these days). My husband keeps his bike in our unit, not in the garage.1 -
Indiana has just called for all schools to be remote through the end of the school year. The State Board of Education said schools must complete 160 total instructional days or at least 20 more days of remote learning from April 2 until the end of the school year.3
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MikePfirrman wrote: »I see attitudes changing in AZ rapidly. Many thought it was a joke at first and media hype (and some still do, unfortunately), but that nursing home that has 20 plus cases changed minds. We also have some friends nearby that the wife has parents down South of the city in the oldest demographic 55 and over active community. They seem to be seeing the first cases there. That particular community, 3000 homes, has an average age of around 75. Some of these AZ communities will be just devastated if this picks up any more steam.
Our governor, in his infinite wisdom, has us allegedly on "lockdown" but nail salons and golf courses are open. Giving something to the old men and older women to keep votes. Just sickening. Nail salons. I kid you not. We will find out soon if the heat slows it here as next week it will hit 90 already here.
It probably will because people will prefer to stay indoors with the AC on, sort of a forced social distancing. Which is OK unless they invite family and friends.
I live in the California desert with temps similar to AZ and many snow birds are staying put instead of going out of state (Canadians are the exception). They are already dreading the high summer hit and the electrical bills.3 -
Here in NYC....
Playgrounds are now closed.
Spring Break for K-12 is canceled.
Every store now has a line outside just to get inside. Limit 2-5 people let in at a time.
It took me an extra 2 hours to shop today. It's exhausting.12 -
Indiana has just called for all schools to be remote through the end of the school year. The State Board of Education said schools must complete 160 total instructional days or at least 20 more days of remote learning from April 2 until the end of the school year.
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
I had to run out because of a maintenance light on my truck (which the mechanics were not able figure out, so it was a waste of $100
) and stopped at Walmart because I was running low on bread and cat food. I saw several people, including some cashiers, wearing masks, but social distancing was hit or miss. It was really hard to keep back from people who were taking up the middle of the aisle I needed 
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bmeadows380 wrote: »Indiana has just called for all schools to be remote through the end of the school year. The State Board of Education said schools must complete 160 total instructional days or at least 20 more days of remote learning from April 2 until the end of the school year.
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
I had to run out because of a maintenance light on my truck (which the mechanics were not able figure out, so it was a waste of $100 ) and stopped at Walmart because I was running low on bread and cat food. I saw several people, including some cashiers, wearing masks, but social distancing was hit or miss. It was really hard to keep back from people who were taking up the middle of the aisle I needed
Last weekend I saw a guy at the Target with the freezer case open talking with someone on the phone going over all of the ice cream options they had in stock, of course picking up each one he was telling the person on the other end about.
Standing there, handling, talking and breathing all over everything in the freezer, and blocking the aisle he was in. Completely oblivious.9 -
https://evonomics.com/how-bronze-age-rulers-simply-canceled-debts/
What’s needed worldwide to prevent an economic disaster or something similar so no one from the poorest to richest is effected by this new environment3 -
JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »https://evonomics.com/how-bronze-age-rulers-simply-canceled-debts/
What’s needed worldwide to prevent an economic disaster or something similar so no one from the poorest to richest is effected by this new environment
good luck with that. No way Uncle Sam is going to just cancel what we owe him, let alone the big banks. And even if Uncle Sam canceled our debts to him, then reimbursed the banks for canceling our debts to them, we'd still pay in the end in the form of higher taxes4 -
Had to venture out, just to Dollar General in search of something to use for ties on masks for my husband’s employees (hoping cheap clothesline will work - it would be puny to use as intended, but for ties hopefully it will work). Overheard a lady loudly (and grumpily) comment “... because it’s not airborne!” Oi... not sure the context, but you could tel she was annoyed for some reason or another. I had a headband/gaiter pulled over my nose and mouth, only saw a couple other people with masks.3
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missysippy930 wrote: »Some good, and not so good news.
Scary statistic, gun/ammo sales up 41% in the US in March.
The US will no longer ship medical devices/supplies for fighting Covid 19 to other countries, while the need here is so great (duh).
China sends 1,000,000 medical masks to US.
It only makes sense. I don’t know about other places, but police here are only responding to calls with injuries. Every day I get NextDoor alerts about cars being broken into, basement windows damaged, Ring photos, it’s crazy. What I’ve realized is that I’m completely alone for the duration of this mess. No one to hear me if I scream No one to back me up. No one to call for help if I can’t.
Damn straight I’m stocking self defense supplies every bit as mindfully as I am cleaning supplies and food.
The NextDoor alerts here have been about bike and package thefts. I'm glad we live in a condo complex and the delivery folks bring packages right to our door (an inside-the-building corridor) and then knock or ring the doorbell (we're always home these days). My husband keeps his bike in our unit, not in the garage.
We have had fewer ND stuff about thefts (one about a catalytic converter theft but that was normal before), I'm surprised nothing about package thefts as that was an issue people were talking about at Christmas. I can pretty much hear when someone drops something on my porch whether they ring or not and they usually ring and leave anyway. In the past they could have probably come after the UPS guy/UPSP guy/FedEX guy did and go to all the houses on the block. I am lucky that even so no one has every taken anything here. I did have a stolen package at my old condo.3 -
My emotions are so on edge these days. I saw on Facebook that a childhood friend's father passed away from COVID-19. I didn't know her father, and I'm not all that close to her anymore, but I started crying when I read it.
Poor lady was diagnosed with PPMS 6 months ago and now had her father die. Crappity crap crap. Between that and ridiculous work stress this week, all I want to do is drink and play video games. 23 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »Indiana has just called for all schools to be remote through the end of the school year. The State Board of Education said schools must complete 160 total instructional days or at least 20 more days of remote learning from April 2 until the end of the school year.
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
I had to run out because of a maintenance light on my truck (which the mechanics were not able figure out, so it was a waste of $100 ) and stopped at Walmart because I was running low on bread and cat food. I saw several people, including some cashiers, wearing masks, but social distancing was hit or miss. It was really hard to keep back from people who were taking up the middle of the aisle I needed
Last weekend I saw a guy at the Target with the freezer case open talking with someone on the phone going over all of the ice cream options they had in stock, of course picking up each one he was telling the person on the other end about.
Standing there, handling, talking and breathing all over everything in the freezer, and blocking the aisle he was in. Completely oblivious.
Someone told me in the local TJ's employees were telling people to not touch merchandise if it wasn't necessary.5 -
Meadows- Since this is effecting the whole world all the leaders need to get together discuss a world wide plan like this until this is over. Their predictions is this will be going on even in November.
Problem is instead of humanity the natural human greed will stop it from happening.The homeless rate after this will be huge
Australia Shutdown announced it will be for 6 more months 5minutes ago was posted
https://youtu.be/Yy7Nz2jUQtI 1 -
While her phrasing was unfortunate, it not being the 60s, not all women are at leisure to spend all day with their children. Many have essential jobs, and some still have full time jobs working at home. Not to mention, not everyone is skilled at teaching, or up to date in all subjects being taught. Most teachers in my city are required to have master’s degrees, which presumably they got for a reason.bmeadows380 wrote: »Indiana has just called for all schools to be remote through the end of the school year. The State Board of Education said schools must complete 160 total instructional days or at least 20 more days of remote learning from April 2 until the end of the school year.
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
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rheddmobile wrote: »
While her phrasing was unfortunate, it not being the 60s, not all women are at leisure to spend all day with their children. Many have essential jobs, and some still have full time jobs working at home. Not to mention, not everyone is skilled at teaching, or up to date in all subjects being taught. Most teachers in my city are required to have master’s degrees, which presumably they got for a reason.bmeadows380 wrote: »Indiana has just called for all schools to be remote through the end of the school year. The State Board of Education said schools must complete 160 total instructional days or at least 20 more days of remote learning from April 2 until the end of the school year.
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
true. But we aren't talking about homeschooling here. We're talking about making sure the kids do the work packets. No different than making sure they do their homework. Doesn't require a college education to do that. and we are also talking about a situation where many parents are home themselves because of this. I think if you're desperate to keep your kids occupied, that making them do their homework should be one option.
And there are thousands of people who homeschool their children in this country, parents who don't have college degrees, and do just fine with it.
Besides which, WV is about 50 years behind the times in many parts of the state; you would be surprised at the number of stay at home mothers or mothers who only work part time jobs here. Not to mention the ones who don't work at all because they don't want to jeopardize those welfare checks......and the ones who make their side money selling drugs.....3
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