Coronavirus prep
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10in30fitness wrote: »Last post ^ is sad
Sad--but true. So many people don't realize what can happen if they get the virus. They've been told "it's just the flu".11 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Ann - you might not be willing to, but non-dairy stuff lasts a lot longer in the fridge (like two months). More stuff in it, but it's not bad if you use it in coffee.
Sounds like an animal shelter, not what a hospital should have to ask for. Crazy times.
Thanks, Mike. I'm willing, but not wanting to. The skim milk in my coffee is an important contributor to my protein goal (I drink 2 cups of coffee, each with 3/4C hot skim milk!) at almost 5% of total, as well as my enjoyment, and I don't enjoy protein powder at all, so I don't want to go that route instead. In normal life, I'd buy more cartons of milk at a time (they keep a couple of months, usually, unopened, too . . . but I'm trying to stick to 2 at a time to be a non-hoarder).
Basically, I'm trapped in a conspiracy between my hedonism (like my milk!), and my community spirit (don't buy 4 or more cartons like I would in normal times (I hate to shop, always)!).
I just finished my 3 litres of frozen bagged milk, and it was fine! I went out shopping on Monday and bought another two bags, one for my fridge and one for the freezer. Mine never completely thawed in the fridge, so it cooled my coffee down faster than normal, but it just meant that I could drink it sooner.
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I've been stalking this thread for...ever. Just wanted to pop in and send lots of hugs to everyone.
I've been working from home for the last week or so, and am a little sad that we're likely to be stuck at home for the next month or longer. There are parts of my job I can't do from here, so at some point I may have to head into the office - which has had confirmed cases. I'm a little disturbed that the 'potential deaths' in the US has crept up overnight from possibly up to 200K to now possibly up to 240K (at the top end). My state went on a mandatory stay at home order earlier this week, but so many are in industries considered 'essential' that I wonder how much difference the order will make?
My spouse has been moved to swing shift to facilitate social distancing, but I worry for him every time he leaves the house. My youngest re-starts school today via online learning (he's in high school)... on April Fools day. Poor kid. And we've been doing lots of cycling and walking to keep from going too stir-crazy. Hubby and I went to Sam's club over the weekend to stock up on some essentials, and apparently toilet paper is still being hoarded around here. I was really hoping people would come to their senses there soon, but it's not looking like it. Sorry. Putting away my Eeyore hat now.
Anyway - on a positive note: EMTs from other states have headed to New York to attempt to help them out. And there are lots of news stories about people finding ways to come together while we have to stay apart: https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/englishwomans-virtual-pub-welcomes-14500-global-customers/
Thanks for all the news, and links, and chatting y'all.22 -
News from the epicenter of the USA.... I went to Costco yesterday in Queens, NY to do some much needed stocking. It looked like a warzone in the streets. It was so dirty and disposable gloves and masks littered everywhere.
I don't wear a mask or gloves nor do I clean my groceries after shopping. I have enough on my plate and don't need to make myself crazy.
We're setting up pop up hospitals and morgues where normally it would be parks and tennis. So sad.25 -
snowflake954 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »Found the full Washington Post story on the CDC considering changing guidance on masks for the general public
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/cdc-considering-recommending-general-public-wear-face-coverings-in-public/2020/03/30/6a3e495c-7280-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html
Read this--thanks for the link. I'm wearing a mask when I go out, and most people in Italy are. The discussion about the mask not protecting you from others, but wearing one will protect people you are in contact with if you are infected, is a no-brainer for me. If everyone wore one then you'd be protecting the rest of the populace. You can be infected and not know it for 2-3 weeks. That's why this virus is so hard to stop.
My mask is homemade. I sterilize it after every use and have a filtering material that I pin in the inner pocket. I throw the filter away after every use.
Another question, I've been told if we just let the mask sit for 3 days after we've used it, it's okay to use it again? I don't go outside the house very often so 3 days between usage is very doable.
My niece is having someone she knows make masks, with a pocket for the filter. If you have to throw the filter out after every use, where do you get more? Probably a dumb question.
And there again, if you just let it sit for 3 days, can you simply reuse it?
Thanks Snowflake. You've been on my mind. Wishing you and your family the very best.
Furnace filters can be used in the inside pockets. you can get it in H. Depot or hardware store.
Thank you for that information.
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snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give news from Italy.
Like Ann, I also went grocery shopping. I got there at 8:15--they open at 8:30. The line was only a fourth of a block long. New signs up on the grocery store windows. Only one person can do shopping (no couples, or taking kids along), everyone has to stay 5 ft apart in the store, and it is required to wear a mask to enter. The store was stocked as usual and several things useful for disinfecting were even on sale.
They say we've hit peak--Yay! However, still a lot of deaths everyday. We're over 100,000 cases and 12,000 deaths.
I e-mailed my family and called my mother (91, in Minnesota). My younger sister says my brothers are visiting and are too close to her. I told them this: (which I haven't shared earlier because there's a lot of anxiety already) if you are admitted to the hospital with COV19, you will not be allowed visiters. People that die from this in the hospitals, die without the comfort of family and friends. I told my siblings that I didn't want them to see our mother die that way. So recommended staying 6 ft away from her and wearing masks.
Your last paragraph makes me so sad. But it's very true. You see articles, videos, snapshots of people's lives now; they're having to say good-bye to their loved ones via Face Time, etc. Celebrating birthdays of their 90 yo relatives, from outside their windows. It's just not the way it should ever have had to be done.
In fact, a favorite child's book author of mine, Tomie dePaolo, just passed away at Dartmouth Hospital a couple days ago. Alone. 85 yo, spent his life making children and parents happier and he had to die alone; his pictures always showed a huge smile on his face. Loved the guy. My heart cannot grasp such a thing. 16 -
Heh yeh, April Fools Day. I was hoping when I saw the sky today, "April Fools" would be written in the clouds and we could all get back to our normal lives again. 11
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I had to venture out yesterday evening to take my truck to the autoparts store because the stupid maintenance light came on (figures; I just paid the sucker off). They couldn't read by order of the health department, but I was able to purchase a reader and get the code myself. Apparently it has a sensor going out....lovely.....
My mom went with me as she needed some things, too. After I picked up my pharmacy order through drive through, we ended up at Walmart. Despite how how traffic has been, I was pleasantly surprised to see how un-populated both Walmart and Lowes were! There was maybe 1/3 or less of the normal total number of people in there, and most were trying to practice the social distancing. I suppose the reality has taken hold over there since there are 2 confirmed cases now.
Some people are wearing masks and some aren't. Some are wearing gloves, and I've seen a few tossed on the ground.
The one thing that irritated me was while in Lowes, the sales associated we were talking to kept getting too close (mom needed a new stove; great time for hers to go out!) I'd keep backing up, and the next thing you knew, she was in too close again.10 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »I had to venture out yesterday evening to take my truck to the autoparts store because the stupid maintenance light came on (figures; I just paid the sucker off). They couldn't read by order of the health department, but I was able to purchase a reader and get the code myself. Apparently it has a sensor going out....lovely.....
My mom went with me as she needed some things, too. After I picked up my pharmacy order through drive through, we ended up at Walmart. Despite how how traffic has been, I was pleasantly surprised to see how un-populated both Walmart and Lowes were! There was maybe 1/3 or less of the normal total number of people in there, and most were trying to practice the social distancing. I suppose the reality has taken hold over there since there are 2 confirmed cases now.
Some people are wearing masks and some aren't. Some are wearing gloves, and I've seen a few tossed on the ground.
The one thing that irritated me was while in Lowes, the sales associated we were talking to kept getting too close (mom needed a new stove; great time for hers to go out!) I'd keep backing up, and the next thing you knew, she was in too close again.
Lowes here has put up plastic barriers between the cashier and the customers they're checking out, which surprised me this weekend. I didn't encounter any other employees.
The gloves on the ground outside stores really bothers me - there are trash cans right outside the store doors. Is it really so hard to get them into the trashcan?
If you're worried about getting your items to the car/cart put back before taking them off, fine, but it only takes an extra minute to walk back to the trashcan and then get back to your vehicle. 11 -
bmeadows, make sure if she buys a stove at Lowes, she uses it a LOT in the 1st couple of days, to make sure it works, not sure but I think their return window is 2 days(could be wrong). My sister bought a washing machine there, Whirlpool(good brand right??)and even from the beginning it didn't work right. She couldn't use her hot water cycles but let it go because she's got enough things to worry about and that was small potatoes, to her. Big mistake. Lowes refuses to return it after trying to get that cycle fixed, and then she's had nothing but multiple problems with it since. One technician who came to the house(some refuse to even come because of Covid-19), told her once you start replacing one part, it affects the whole computer system on it. She can get it to work sometimes, then other days she and her dh are washing clothes by hand. It's been about 6 weeks now and the dang thing still isn't fixed. 800 bucks, a huge learning curve.
Just sayin'.....they don't make things like they used to. 8 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »bmeadows380 wrote: »I had to venture out yesterday evening to take my truck to the autoparts store because the stupid maintenance light came on (figures; I just paid the sucker off). They couldn't read by order of the health department, but I was able to purchase a reader and get the code myself. Apparently it has a sensor going out....lovely.....
My mom went with me as she needed some things, too. After I picked up my pharmacy order through drive through, we ended up at Walmart. Despite how how traffic has been, I was pleasantly surprised to see how un-populated both Walmart and Lowes were! There was maybe 1/3 or less of the normal total number of people in there, and most were trying to practice the social distancing. I suppose the reality has taken hold over there since there are 2 confirmed cases now.
Some people are wearing masks and some aren't. Some are wearing gloves, and I've seen a few tossed on the ground.
The one thing that irritated me was while in Lowes, the sales associated we were talking to kept getting too close (mom needed a new stove; great time for hers to go out!) I'd keep backing up, and the next thing you knew, she was in too close again.
Lowes here has put up plastic barriers between the cashier and the customers they're checking out, which surprised me this weekend. I didn't encounter any other employees.
The gloves on the ground outside stores really bothers me - there are trash cans right outside the store doors. Is it really so hard to get them into the trashcan? If you're worried about getting your items to the car/cart put back before taking them off, fine, but it only takes an extra minute to walk back to the trashcan and then get back to your vehicle.
I noticed that here when I went to Costco and at Dunkin Donuts they put tables in front of the cashier to promote distance.4 -
bmeadows, make sure if she buys a stove at Lowes, she uses it a LOT in the 1st couple of days, to make sure it works, not sure but I think their return window is 2 days(could be wrong). My sister bought a washing machine there, Whirlpool(good brand right??)and even from the beginning it didn't work right. She couldn't use her hot water cycles but let it go because she's got enough things to worry about and that was small potatoes, to her. Big mistake. Lowes refuses to return it after trying to get that cycle fixed, and then she's had nothing but multiple problems with it since. One technician who came to the house(some refuse to even come because of Covid-19), told her once you start replacing one part, it affects the whole computer system on it. She can get it to work sometimes, then other days she and her dh are washing clothes by hand. It's been about 6 weeks now and the dang thing still isn't fixed. 800 bucks, a huge learning curve.
Just sayin'.....they don't make things like they used to.
Nope, they don't make things to last these days at all, nor do they make them to be repaired; its all throw-away. She actually bought the most basic stove you could get - has a control knob for the oven instead of a digital display; actually doesn't even have a clock on it! I bought most of my appliances at Lowe's and guess they're about as good as anything else I've bought elsewhere, but I"m like my mom and look for the most basic un-frilled items I can findChef_Barbell wrote: »
I noticed that here when I went to Costco and at Dunkin Donuts they put tables in front of the cashier to promote distance.
Lowes here also had the plastic barriers. The little Ace Hardware in my local town had the plastic barriers up and also was not allowing customers into the main store - you went to the checkout counter right inside the front door, told them what you wanted, and they sent an employee back to get it. I understand their thinking, but I wasn't seeing that as real efficient because sometimes you know what you want by sight but trying to get the employee to understand what you are looking for can be a challenge; plus, there might be other options to choose from, but the employee would just bring up the first thing they grabbed.
The Autozone had stacked crates or set tables in front of their checkouts.2 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »News from the epicenter of the USA.... I went to Costco yesterday in Queens, NY to do some much needed stocking. It looked like a warzone in the streets. It was so dirty and disposable gloves and masks littered everywhere.
I don't wear a mask or gloves nor do I clean my groceries after shopping. I have enough on my plate and don't need to make myself crazy.
We're setting up pop up hospitals and morgues where normally it would be parks and tennis. So sad.
There’s definitely a learning curve. NY is leading the way for many of us. In Minnesota, they’re out scouting buildings for remote hospitals in anticipation.
These posts are bringing tears to my eyes.
If you don’t have an essential job, please stay home for all but essential needs. Heartfelt thanks to those that are putting their health at risk, for us❤️ Stay safe!
Remind your loved ones how much you care.
If you’re unable to see them in person, call or text to let them know!6 -
Just heard from my son in NYC - lower Manhattan. He said the Radisson next door to his building has been converted to a field hospital. He joked that if he had had the virus more seriously he could have just waltzed right next door.
He started symptoms on 3/20 and felt crappy until Thursday March 26th. Never had breathing issues but more of a tickle in his chest, terrible aches and headache and fever. Didn't bother asking to be tested because well you know.....I sent him a thermometer and he has been taking it to keep track. Problem is it keeps coming in at 97.3 or 97 or today 96.8! WTAF? I know that 98.6 is not necessarily the avg anymore. I took mine with the one I bought - different brand but similar. Mine came back 97.0 Maybe we are just cold hearted people.....
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Just heard from my son in NYC - lower Manhattan. He said the Radisson next door to his building has been converted to a field hospital. He joked that if he had had the virus more seriously he could have just waltzed right next door.
He started symptoms on 3/20 and felt crappy until Thursday March 26th. Never had breathing issues but more of a tickle in his chest, terrible aches and headache and fever. Didn't bother asking to be tested because well you know.....I sent him a thermometer and he has been taking it to keep track. Problem is it keeps coming in at 97.3 or 97 or today 96.8! WTAF? I know that 98.6 is not necessarily the avg anymore. I took mine with the one I bought - different brand but similar. Mine came back 97.0 Maybe we are just cold hearted people.....
We've been talking about this here lately. I recently read somewhere that the 'average' temperature has been declining. I'll have to see if I can find the article. Anyway - you're not cold hearted... if you are, then so am I - mine typically runs below 97. Average means some are above and some below, anyway. 7 -
Latest on the location of known cases in the Chicago area and IL. Chicago itself, and then Cook is still the hotspot within the state, of course -- but testing is much higher here too. Chicago, city only, has 45% of cases but 26% of deaths, although this early that could be distorted too. I do think it is suggesting there's relatively more testing here, but there are other possible factors. The reporting and stats also indicate that within the Cook County suburbs the numbers also may be distorted by who has access to easier testing (what communities have major hospital resources and are more affluent), as well as who might have been traveling more: https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-cases-counties-cook-dupage-lake-20200401-d2dytx6zgjhldo245un7donpvu-story.html
Chicago itself (city only) has (as of yesterday, the numbers are going up fast daily) 2693 cases, and the stats relating to those cases are perhaps of interest:
*Of 26 deaths, 19 were in people 60+
*21 of the deaths were men, 5 women
*although 60% of people known positive were never hospitalized, 40% were hospitalized -- note, this shows clearly that testing is still biased toward those with serious symptoms, and many with it are not getting tested, and our testing is much greater than most other states last I looked, we just still have a shortage of tests, as do most
*Of those hospitalized, 49% are 18-59, 51% are 60+, (0.2% under 18) -- again indicating this is NOT no big deal for the non elderly
*Of those hospitalized, 53% men, 47% women
https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/sites/covid-19/home/latest-data.html
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JustSomeEm wrote: »Just heard from my son in NYC - lower Manhattan. He said the Radisson next door to his building has been converted to a field hospital. He joked that if he had had the virus more seriously he could have just waltzed right next door.
He started symptoms on 3/20 and felt crappy until Thursday March 26th. Never had breathing issues but more of a tickle in his chest, terrible aches and headache and fever. Didn't bother asking to be tested because well you know.....I sent him a thermometer and he has been taking it to keep track. Problem is it keeps coming in at 97.3 or 97 or today 96.8! WTAF? I know that 98.6 is not necessarily the avg anymore. I took mine with the one I bought - different brand but similar. Mine came back 97.0 Maybe we are just cold hearted people.....
We've been talking about this here lately. I recently read somewhere that the 'average' temperature has been declining. I'll have to see if I can find the article. Anyway - you're not cold hearted... if you are, then so am I - mine typically runs below 97. Average means some are above and some below, anyway.
Here's the article: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/if-youre-taking-your-temperature-because-of-the-coronavirus-98-6-isnt-the-normal-body-temperature-anymore/
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Howard County bars sales of nonessential items at essential businesses
https://www.kokomotribune.com/news/local_news/howard-county-bars-sales-of-nonessential-items-at-essential-businesses/article_6d0c2798-7074-11ea-9136-538d5d848958.html
Howard County has banned the sale of these items in local stores during its stay-at-home order:
Banned purchases
Jewelry.
Furniture.
Home and lawn decor.
Toys and games.
Carpets.
Rugs and flooring.
Non-emergency appliances.
Music.
Books and magazines.
Craft and art supplies.
Paint.
Entertainment electronics.
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We ordered grocery delivery from Instacart yesterday. The service had 7-8 local grocery stores to choose from and we ordered from 3. They just drop it off on your porch, no interaction. We wiped down the stuff that needed to be refrigerated/frozen and put it in the garage refrigerator where it will sit for a few days - we put the rest aside in the garage to quarantine for a few days. People from restaurants, gas stations, and grocery stores keep coming up positive, we aren't taking any chances.11
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Women’s body temperature can also vary depending on where they are in their cycle - I actually dipped down into the upper 95’s one time (sadly it was then that I realized I was losing an early pregnancy). I usually stay mid to upper 96’s (maybe because of my hysterectomy changing my hormones?). As a teen I was usually in the 97’s. A “normal” temp is definitely a fever for me...9
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My niece lives in Maine. She was talking with her mom(my sister) this a.m. and said the governor has shut the borders for travel; if you're caught traveling outside the state it's $1000 fine. She can't come visit her parents and hasn't seen them in almost a month.(:4
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My niece lives in Maine. She was talking with her mom(my sister) this a.m. and said the governor has shut the borers for travel; if you're caught traveling outside the state it's $1000 fine. She can't come visit her parents and hasn't seen them in almost a month.(:
Are you referring to international travel? The Canadian-US border is closed in Maine, I believe. As of yesterday, the governor of Maine has made it clear that she doesn't thinks she has the authority to close the borders of Maine when it comes to other states. Their stay-at-home order does impact non-essential travel (as do those of many states), but it isn't border-specific. The governor has asked people not to come to Maine to try to escape more crowded areas and they're asking people visiting from other states to self-quarantine for two weeks.
https://www.pressherald.com/2020/03/31/answers-to-questions-about-governor-mills-stay-at-home-order/
Regardless of legalities, the most caring thing we can do for our parents right now is to not visit them (barring special circumstances). If her understanding of the law is keeping her from her parents, it's probably for the best.5 -
More on Chicago and Illinois cases.
Currently, "COVID-19 patients are occupying 35% of the state’s intensive care beds and that 24% of ventilators are being used by such patients." That's with just under 6000 diagnosed cases in the state currently.
One current projection by Rush is that Illinois could have 19,000 diagnosed cases as of 4/9 (based on current rates of increase, although there's a lot of uncertainty, and there are a variety of different models), and that if they had continued going up as they were initially (with no stay at home order), the projection for 4/9 was more like 145,000 cases, and we'd be out of hospital beds and ventilators by now, of course.
Currently they are predicting the peak to hit IL around 4/16.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-forecasts-hospitals-rush-20200331-v5vcjb3kyvdtjme32of6tt2j64-story.html1 -
This really bugging me, I've been staying home and when I did go to the store 2 weeks ago I wiped down everything and stayed away from people, I'm also in a higher risk category. My microwave broke the first day of this and my brother came over to fix it yesterday. I kept away from him and wiped everything down with Clorox when he left. He thinks I'm overdoing it, he's going to the store a couple times a week and the kids are still having play dates with some friends by meeting at the park. He said the adults are staying away from each other but not the kids. I'm really surprised, my SIL is a kindergarten teacher and normally very responsible, I'd think she'd be more careful. My understanding is because kids aren't getting it like adults he's not concerned about my nephews or himself and my SIL.10
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@JustSomeEm Thanks - I will read this! Good to know that this pandemic has not ruined by usual sweet demeanor
@moonangel12 Interesting - that ship has sailed so to speak, but that does not surprise me at all.
@NewLIFEstyle4ME I understand that people need to stay home but if a store is deemed essential, why shouldn't they be allowed to sell this stuff....I get things like carpet, flooring, lawn decor but not music, crafts, books....they need to stay in business. Just my 2 cents. Thanks god booze is not on that list.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »
I assume that when you say it is not an airborne virus you mean that it is not aerosolized and sinks to surfaces very quickly, but without that explanation, I think saying it is not airborne can be misleading, ...
I would think people would know the difference. I'm not remotely a health care professional and I know the difference.
I have an MA in English, and I work adjacent to public safety. Before this pandemic, I was not aware of this distinction between airborne and aerosolized in the context of contagions.
M-W's definition of airborne is
1. done or being in the air : being off the ground: such as
a: carried through the air (as by an aircraft)
b: supported especially by aerodynamic forces or propelled through the air by force
(a plane becoming airborne)
c: transported or carried by the air
(airborne allergens)
Given that, I would simply have assumed aerosolized to be a synonym of airborne. Or, possibly, aerosolization is the process by which something becomes airborne.
I queried a few of my smart friends; they didn't know the difference either.
So I'm going to side with lynn_glenmont and say that this is confusing for many, if not most.
so when I say it's not airborne you then conclude that getting sneezed on or coughed on would not be a concern? because that was what he was insinuating if you read his comment. I'm pretty sure people aren't that stupid...but I could be wrong. I don't think you need to know the difference between airborne and aerosolized to understand that getting directly coughed or sneezed is an issue, which is more of the point I was trying to make.
ETA: for clarification, aerosolized would be "airborne" ...meaning a virus is suspended in the air in a liquid or solid form for a substantial amount of time...think measles...that virus could be suspended in air (aerosolized) for hours before dropping to the ground. This coronavirus only has limited ability to be aerosolized...largely in hospital settings and it isn't the primary transmission method. When someone coughs or sneezes, it is airborne only for a short time and can travel only a short distance before falling to the ground...this is why social distancing of 6 ft apart is important as is sneezing or coughing into your elbow.6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give news from Italy.
Like Ann, I also went grocery shopping. I got there at 8:15--they open at 8:30. The line was only a fourth of a block long. New signs up on the grocery store windows. Only one person can do shopping (no couples, or taking kids along), everyone has to stay 5 ft apart in the store, and it is required to wear a mask to enter. The store was stocked as usual and several things useful for disinfecting were even on sale.
They say we've hit peak--Yay! However, still a lot of deaths everyday. We're over 100,000 cases and 12,000 deaths.
I e-mailed my family and called my mother (91, in Minnesota). My younger sister says my brothers are visiting and are too close to her. I told them this: (which I haven't shared earlier because there's a lot of anxiety already) if you are admitted to the hospital with COV19, you will not be allowed visiters. People that die from this in the hospitals, die without the comfort of family and friends. I told my siblings that I didn't want them to see our mother die that way. So recommended staying 6 ft away from her and wearing masks.
Hospitals are not allowing visitors for anyone, and that is understandable. My grandpa had been in the hospital since 3/20 (died yesterday) with pneumonia initially. After testing negative for Coronavirus, he was transferred out of the isolation area and to a different part of the hospital. But nobody visited for the last week since they shut down visitation in all areas. I would not have gone to visit anyway (would be a long way to travel), but my uncle was going everyday until they stopped allowing it. I understand and agree with not having any extra people. It may suck, but a small sacrifice to avoid infection of high risk people.19 -
@T1DCarnivoreRunner I'm so sorry to hear about your grandfather.
My mom is an NP who does ongoing patient care at a hospital and they're not even letting *her* visit her patients with CV since she isn't part of their direct care for that situation. Everyone who is in that area of her hospital has to have a pressing need to be there.3 -
NewLIFEstyle4ME wrote: »
Howard County bars sales of nonessential items at essential businesses
https://www.kokomotribune.com/news/local_news/howard-county-bars-sales-of-nonessential-items-at-essential-businesses/article_6d0c2798-7074-11ea-9136-538d5d848958.html
Howard County has banned the sale of these items in local stores during its stay-at-home order:
Banned purchases
Jewelry.
Furniture.
Home and lawn decor.
Toys and games.
Carpets.
Rugs and flooring.
Non-emergency appliances.
Music.
Books and magazines.
Craft and art supplies.
Paint.
Entertainment electronics.
Staying entertained during a long quarantine seems to me to be pretty essential. Not everyone spends all day watching TV. Books, art supplies, music, etc. and even home repair or decorating seem to me to be a very valid way of enduring the long quarantine.15 -
Went to the grocery store this morning. Most people are being very aware of giving each other enough space. MOST. There were two ladies shopping together that got very offended because I moved to give them extra space to pass.
One commented loudly to the other, "People are being crazy stupid...they are acting like we're going to kill them." I probably shouldn't have said anything, but I turned around and responded, "Well, you just might."
To which the woman said, "If you're that scared, you should stay home. Just don't leave your house then."
I saw the same two women in the checkout lanes being extremely annoyed when the cashier asked them to stay back until she was finished wiping down the counter after the previous customer.
What is wrong with people? Entitlement, denial, or what?20
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