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Well they changed their minds about closing our parks due to folks gathering in large numbers,but we got a stern warning. I don’t think the warnings will work he should have just shut it down like he first said he was going to do.Oh well time will tell. Their saying closed Easter for parks but through the grape vine hearing it will probably be open. Hubby said No signs posted yet so will see. He’s hoping folks don’t flock to the parks for Easter since they have been going against social distancing making more work cops are having to give citations y warnings even at apartments for groups of people.
https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2020/03/30/mayor-nirenberg-to-san-antonio-stop-congregating-in-parks-during-outbreak-or-well-close-them
Time will tell.
I saw an article saying estimation of 1/3rd of USA could not pay their apartment rents for April. Hopefully they’ll work with people maybe a payment plan even.1 -
Diatonic12 wrote: »
Is this a current photo? Where? Terrible if so.
I'm pretty sure it's a stock photo from several years ago. I'm not sure what the point was to post it without comment.
Yeah. When I went to Yellowstone a few years back, there was still snow on the ground in late May/early June, and most people were wearing jackets. I'm guessing that's a photo from July or August.3 -
Supposed to rain on Easter here, so that should help with any potential outdoor gathering.
I know a few people who had Zoom seders for Passover, and I hope everyone who is feeling like they will miss their extended family Easter gatherings will do the same.
My city has released cases by zip code, and the area (pretty close to me) that has the highest number of identified cases to date is a neighborhood with a high Orthodox Jewish population, and apparently one of the explanations is that there were Purim gatherings (including one huge one with 500 people which is the suspected source for many cases) there for the holiday, just before everyone started to cancel everything and shut down (I recall everything started to get cancelled here on 3/11, and most everything was by 3/13, including the St Patrick's Day parades that would have been that weekend, although lots of people were packing the bars anyway -- they got shut down on 3/16, I think). So I really hope people don't feel a need to congregate on Easter.4 -
It looks like the day after Easter in the candy aisle. Not much to speak of at all. Not a jelly bean in sight.1
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I think the people who are faring the best mentally in isolation during this pandemic are military vets. We were built for this.
We can follow orders, even if we internally question them. We are used to operating according to a chain of command - the governor orders these safety protocols, and as long as they aren't extreme or unlawful, then we follow them.
We can endure the mundane. Have you ever:
Spent 4 hours digging a ditch?
Gone on a 20-mile road march just to go on a 20-mile road march?
Performed all night fireguard duty in the pre-cell phone era (I once read a phone book for several hours, just reading the ads and looking for silly names)?
Stood at attention during a really long ceremony?
Ate gross food in a chow hall three times per day, unable to talk to anyone else, or else you got your tray dumped immediately and kicked out?
Spent your birthday stripping, mopping, waxing and buffing an entire wing of your barracks?
Spent an hour each night shining boots, knowing that the next day they will be totally ruined?
Had nothing to look forward to tomorrow except the same mundane *kitten* you experienced today?
If so, nothing currently going on currently is especially disturbing. I have electricity, running water, a fridge and cupboards full of food, the internet, books, streaming TV channels, exercise equipment, and a backyard.16 -
Our city is closing down regiional park parking lots today through Sunday. The parks are still open to walk-ins and bikes, but there have been too many people and not enough physical distancing even without the expected holiday crowd. The notice started off "Nature's Not Going Anywhere!" 😊
I was worried about how sheltering in place with my husband 24/7 would affect our relationship. He is furloughed from his full time job in retail and of course we both have habits and tics that annoy the heck out of each other. But it turns out we've become more tolerant and kind over the last three weeks, and I'm grateful for that.13 -
I was feeling moderately safe(probably misguidedly so) in my small home town where 20 miles away in another small town right across the border, it's like a shopping mecca due to a WalMart going in many many years ago. But then I called the vet today about my dog and we got way off track. He enlightened me there are positive cases here, as well as they're shifting some of the lesser violent criminals out of our local correctional center to make room for Covid-19 positive prisoners from other facilities. And as he said, 'we' all know people who work there(including the guy who's installing our new furnace this summer).
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Our city is closing down regiional park parking lots today through Sunday. The parks are still open to walk-ins and bikes, but there have been too many people and not enough physical distancing even without the expected holiday crowd. The notice started off "Nature's Not Going Anywhere!" 😊
I was worried about how sheltering in place with my husband 24/7 would affect our relationship. He is furloughed from his full time job in retail and of course we both have habits and tics that annoy the heck out of each other. But it turns out we've become more tolerant and kind over the last three weeks, and I'm grateful for that.
This has been a bright spot for me as well. My husband and I can both be somewhat . . . challenging to live with sometimes and I was worried about what it would be like for us once I began working from home. We've both become more considerate and flexible. Compared to some of the stuff I've seen on reddit about issues couples have been having in isolation, I'm living in a Disney movie.
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janejellyroll wrote: »Our city is closing down regiional park parking lots today through Sunday. The parks are still open to walk-ins and bikes, but there have been too many people and not enough physical distancing even without the expected holiday crowd. The notice started off "Nature's Not Going Anywhere!" 😊
I was worried about how sheltering in place with my husband 24/7 would affect our relationship. He is furloughed from his full time job in retail and of course we both have habits and tics that annoy the heck out of each other. But it turns out we've become more tolerant and kind over the last three weeks, and I'm grateful for that.
This has been a bright spot for me as well. My husband and I can both be somewhat . . . challenging to live with sometimes and I was worried about what it would be like for us once I began working from home. We've both become more considerate and flexible. Compared to some of the stuff I've seen on reddit about issues couples have been having in isolation, I'm living in a Disney movie.
*Note to self: Check out Reddit to pass the time...
ETA: Hubby and I plus two teenagers have been home working/learning here for the past few weeks. I've come to the conclusion that we are all tough to live with, but we have also been trying really hard to remember our manners and civility. I've read a few articles about domestic violence increasing with all the folks home together, which is super-sad. I wonder what the divorce rate is going to look like once things return to semi-normal (and no, I'm not planning to visit a lawyer.., Hubby is stuck with me).12 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Our city is closing down regiional park parking lots today through Sunday. The parks are still open to walk-ins and bikes, but there have been too many people and not enough physical distancing even without the expected holiday crowd. The notice started off "Nature's Not Going Anywhere!" 😊
I was worried about how sheltering in place with my husband 24/7 would affect our relationship. He is furloughed from his full time job in retail and of course we both have habits and tics that annoy the heck out of each other. But it turns out we've become more tolerant and kind over the last three weeks, and I'm grateful for that.
This has been a bright spot for me as well. My husband and I can both be somewhat . . . challenging to live with sometimes and I was worried about what it would be like for us once I began working from home. We've both become more considerate and flexible. Compared to some of the stuff I've seen on reddit about issues couples have been having in isolation, I'm living in a Disney movie.
*Note to self: Check out Reddit to pass the time...
There are so many petty spouse/sibling fights going on right now. It's really making me feel lucky that the worst thing happening in this house is that I'm terrible at loading the dishwasher and my husband sometimes misses sweeping up some hair after giving himself a trim.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »People are starting to feel it here. A substantial subset of workers are daily workers who earn per job/project/day of work and are not salaried, so no works means no money. Salaried workers are fine because they're being paid even if they aren't working from home and companies are not allowed to arbitrarily lay off employees.
They're planning to gradually open some sectors, starting with factories. For now, they're only allowing foreign workers who live in factory compounds to work at 40% capacity. Things have been going well so far, but I hope it won't get worse when more sectors start operating and more actively social people start working. Many people don't care to keep a safe distance.
This may be different from country to country. Here in the U.S., we salaried employees can still be laid off temporarily and not paid. Where I work, there are many in that category next week. We make parts for cars, and since auto manufacturers (our customers) are shut down, so are we. The plant I used to work at (same company, different division) makes auto parts also, but a different type of product. Unlike my current plant, their parts are also used in equipment of all kinds. They had a sudden business increase because one of their parts is used to make a ventilator.
Fortunately I am still WFH next week (all of us salary employees had a temporary pay cut, though), but much of the administrative staff even is laid off for the next week.3 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »People are starting to feel it here. A substantial subset of workers are daily workers who earn per job/project/day of work and are not salaried, so no works means no money. Salaried workers are fine because they're being paid even if they aren't working from home and companies are not allowed to arbitrarily lay off employees.
They're planning to gradually open some sectors, starting with factories. For now, they're only allowing foreign workers who live in factory compounds to work at 40% capacity. Things have been going well so far, but I hope it won't get worse when more sectors start operating and more actively social people start working. Many people don't care to keep a safe distance.
This may be different from country to country. Here in the U.S., we salaried employees can still be laid off temporarily and not paid. Where I work, there are many in that category next week. We make parts for cars, and since auto manufacturers (our customers) are shut down, so are we. The plant I used to work at (same company, different division) makes auto parts also, but a different type of product. Unlike my current plant, their parts are also used in equipment of all kinds. They had a sudden business increase because one of their parts is used to make a ventilator.
Fortunately I am still WFH next week (all of us salary employees had a temporary pay cut, though), but much of the administrative staff even is laid off for the next week.
The country is currently operating under defense law, so all the usual laws and rules are subject to temporary change if needed and new ones can be created on the fly. Companies tried to lay off employees to avoid paying, so they came up with a new rule that nullified all suspension or termination of employment and mandated choosing between paying salaries or registering as frozen if a company can't pay salaries (which means they will not be able to operate in any capacity while frozen).6 -
Some WI state parks were closed by the governor's order this week due to "crowding, vandalism, and littering." What does that tell you? Our county parks and dog parks are still open. And it is cold today and supposed to snow on Sunday, so maybe folks will stay in for Easter. I noticed considerably more traffic on the roads when I went to the dog park this evening--same time I've been going for a month now. A lot more traffic. If people are traveling for Easter, then we will see another spike, I suspect. Very frustrating for those of us who have been trying to follow the orders.
I am also one who is quite content to be on my own, as I have said before. I've had two friends who have really struggled with it and while we practice social distancing, we do meet at the dog park (only one of them at a time, not both). Compared to most other non-family groups, we are being very responsible. Today, a group of 5 walked abreast down the trail, leaving no room for me to pass, and keeping only 2-3 feet at most between them--even a 12-15 foot wide path isn't enough for that. I was a little steamed but didn't say anything. Fortunately it's around an open field and I could move well off the path, risking only the mud and maybe something a bit worse on my shoes (I got lucky and didn't step in anything). I wanted to extend my arm holding the "FetchIt" stick and say, "Give me my six feet, please." Maybe next time.9 -
JustSomeEM- We has to put in place a fesh start rule. We realize we’re getting on each other nerves saying what we don’t mean we look at each other say Restart Button. Lol our code word for pretend the last hours didn’t happen. It works for us we have a similar personality tho. We turn on Netflix a silly movie eat in the living room just chill out say nice things to each other. When we first started was hard not to dwell but now We forget what we’re arguing about like a light switch got flipped when our code word is spoken. Daughter loves the code word thing she only gets 1-2week shore leave so no time to argue. Think it’s easier cause we raised so many kids separately y together that we’re too old to want to argue anymore lol. Told him we can save it up y argue again in the nursing home some day lol 😆.Hubby says it will be about
You are my last pudding! No I did not I don’t like your pudding it’s not chocolate! Lol 6 -
Here in Italy 3 weeks of lockdown and it's been extended to May 3rd. The government keeps pushing opening back, saying "Just a little more". I think it's because they don't know what to do. Many businesses will have to stay closed for a longer time, including hairdressers, gyms
, and coffee bars. These are places with close personal contact.
There is a need to know who has antibodies and is no longer contagious. It was asked why it takes so long for the results of the test. Because it takes 2 weeks after being cured to do the test, then wait another 2 weeks to retake it because many in that time frame test positive again. So it takes a month or more.
Our new cases here are in decline, which is good news. Fewer patients are in intensive care. For the Easter weekend there is a crackdown on movement. Roadblocks are everywhere but especially on roads leading out of the city. No transfering to second homes in the country or beach. Helicopters will be checking for large groups on the roofs of buildings.11 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Here in Italy 3 weeks of lockdown and it's been extended to May 3rd. The government keeps pushing opening back, saying "Just a little more". I think it's because they don't know what to do. Many businesses will have to stay closed for a longer time, including hairdressers, gyms , and coffee bars. These are places with close personal contact.
There is a need to know who has antibodies and is no longer contagious. It was asked why it takes so long for the results of the test. Because it takes 2 weeks after being cured to do the test, then wait another 2 weeks to retake it because many in that time frame test positive again. So it takes a month or more.
Our new cases here are in decline, which is good news. Fewer patients are in intensive care. For the Easter weekend there is a crackdown on movement. Roadblocks are everywhere but especially on roads leading out of the city. No transfering to second homes in the country or beach. Helicopters will be checking for large groups on the roofs of buildings.
Even though New Zealand is tracking really well, I won't be at all surprised if we stay in lockdown past the initial four week period, just because they want to be sure it's well enough under control that we're not just going it end up going into lockdown again, and that there are no unknown pockets where it's quietly bubbling away.3 -
Well jhu is showing over 103k deaths worldwide and over 500k cases here in USA.
I am more and more concerned regarding nursing homes.6 -
just_Tomek wrote: »Ok am I the only one who is perfectly happy being home alone? Maybe because I have been single for a long time and very very independent that the self isolation is like nothing to me? I know for a fact if I had someone else in here, by now, we would have been separated anyways lol
I’m perfectly happy being alone most of the time, but my problem with quarantine is that I am NEVER alone. I have 4 decidedly non introverted boys, who can all at times be pretty loud. Between fun playing, fighting, 2 practicing piano and one clarinet, it can be so so many layers of noise going on in here that my head wants to explode. My favorite music is silence. Add that husband’s hours are cut, so he’s home 3 full days plus leaves later/gets home earlier, so add another practicing piano and asking me questions. I’ve taken to running a few days a week to get some quiet. I hate running.
I used to count on 1-2 hrs a day of alone time lifting at the gym. And my youngest, loudest, and most likely to fight with others went to preschool 3x a week so we could homeschool in quiet. Big boys had 1 day/wk of enrichment classes, and a morning for music/choir. And we had/have 2 in competitive soccer and 2 in rec baseball, so even though we were at games or practices at least once a day, they were all occupied and playing, so I could zone out a bit or walk around the field. They do play outside a lot, now that the weather is warming up, so that will be a sanity saver.
I do miss my weekly small group meeting and the weekly playgroup I host. I know the kids miss that too—we looked forward to seeing our best friends on the regular.
However, even with all the noise, I feel very lucky that we’re coping pretty easily. We homeschool, so there’s no real interruption to that, and they’re used to playing together, and we rarely watch tv or use electronics, so they can entertain themselves. The main thing that’s up here is audiobook listening and board game playing. And maybe wine consumption.8 -
To deal with family tension in a fun, light way (my son just went back to San Diego), the four of us -- my wife and two adult children and myself -- were having weekly Survivor votes. Who would get voted off the island if we could get rid of them! My son's dog is Floyd. The one day my daughter and I stuffed the voting box with a vote for Evan, my son, made in dog paws, like Floyd had cast it. We even had tiki torches set up to extinguish the torch!14
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gradchica27 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »Ok am I the only one who is perfectly happy being home alone? Maybe because I have been single for a long time and very very independent that the self isolation is like nothing to me? I know for a fact if I had someone else in here, by now, we would have been separated anyways lol
I’m perfectly happy being alone most of the time, but my problem with quarantine is that I am NEVER alone.
This. A zillion times, this. Luckily, my kids are both older teens (one is an adult, the other is [was?] in high school). When I need alone time, I hang out in my office with the door shut. Not quite the same as the solo commute I used to have, or going for a nice long run or bike ride, but it works for now when I can't get out. The sudden need to be home together has been quite an adjustment.MikePfirrman wrote: »To deal with family tension in a fun, light way (my son just went back to San Diego), the four of us -- my wife and two adult children and myself -- were having weekly Survivor votes. Who would get voted off the island if we could get rid of them! My son's dog is Floyd. The one day my daughter and I stuffed the voting box with a vote for Evan, my son, made in dog paws, like Floyd had cast it. We even had tiki torches set up to extinguish the torch!
I have an Evan too... And I love this idea! Tonight we've decided we're all going to put up tents in our back yard and camp out. Ok, *I* decided I was camping out, and the men in my house all jumped on board. But I'm really looking forward to "something different". I think the sudden shift to a very monotonous routine is getting to me.
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This street usually has very high traffic, even traffic jams at times. Seeing it like this is kinda eery.
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There's a music video posted in the meme thread with photos of empty (normally busy) areas of Chicago and NYC and (perhaps, I don't recall?) elsewhere that's really striking.4
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I had to get my boys out yesterday...they haven't been out of the neighborhood in a month and were starting to lose it. We went up to the mountains to do some hiking. They usually complain about going hiking, but they were just excited to go anywhere. It was a total of about 3 hours in the car for a couple hours worth of hiking, but totally worth it.
I'm cleaning up the camping trailer this weekend and de-winterizing...going to find a nice long weekend in May to go out and do some dispersed camping. Camping may be all we get this year in terms of "vacation" and getting away.10 -
There's a music video posted in the meme thread with photos of empty (normally busy) areas of Chicago and NYC and (perhaps, I don't recall?) elsewhere that's really striking.
It looks like one of those apocalypse movies.
Edit: some good news. They may close off the south (no confirmed cases there) and gradually return to normal there.6 -
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I had to get my boys out yesterday...they haven't been out of the neighborhood in a month and were starting to lose it. We went up to the mountains to do some hiking. They usually complain about going hiking, but they were just excited to go anywhere. It was a total of about 3 hours in the car for a couple hours worth of hiking, but totally worth it.
I'm cleaning up the camping trailer this weekend and de-winterizing...going to find a nice long weekend in May to go out and do some dispersed camping. Camping may be all we get this year in terms of "vacation" and getting away.
Camping has always been our get away of choice for vacations at our state parks. They currently are closed for camping until May 4th, and could be extended, depending on the next few weeks😢1 -
missysippy930 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I had to get my boys out yesterday...they haven't been out of the neighborhood in a month and were starting to lose it. We went up to the mountains to do some hiking. They usually complain about going hiking, but they were just excited to go anywhere. It was a total of about 3 hours in the car for a couple hours worth of hiking, but totally worth it.
I'm cleaning up the camping trailer this weekend and de-winterizing...going to find a nice long weekend in May to go out and do some dispersed camping. Camping may be all we get this year in terms of "vacation" and getting away.
Camping has always been our get away of choice for vacations at our state parks. They currently are closed for camping until May 4th, and could be extended, depending on the next few weeks😢
All of our state parks are closed as are NFS campgrounds, but you can still do dispersed camping and I don't see that changing. Basically just going up to the mountains and finding a fire road or forest road and roll until you find a nice spot to set up. I actually prefer this most of the time anyway as your rarely come across other people, and when you do, they're camped out a half mile from you.1 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »We just got some extra dry beans, rice, and gallon jugs of water. We aren't really afraid of the virus, but more of the panicked shoppers that might clear the shelves, lol.
I’m glad I bought rice and beans and lots of water last week. I had no idea I was supposed to.
I was out of rice, beans were on sale, and someone suggested electrolyte water or Gatorade for my leg cramps. I hate Gatorade, so I bought a couple of bottles of every other kind of electrolyte drinks, as well as water.
I guess that means I’m good to go?
I'm in Ecuador in the city of Guayaquil. At first when I saw people overstocking food in the supermarket I thought they were crazy but couple of days laters we were all in quarantine and with mobility restrictions. We can go out maybe once a week to buy groceries and when you get to the supermarket it takes about 3 hours or 4 until you get in the supermarket. So it was not such a bad idea to overstock from the beginning 🤦. How is it here in Guayaquil? Terrible people are dying of all ages, they have to wait several days to get the body of your dead relatives in hospitals. And if they die at home it take several days till they authorities pick them up. Is really catastrophic and the worst nightmare. Soy if you can buy food for several weeks or a month so you don't have to go out just do it.23 -
I just walked over to a local cafe to get a coffee and some pastries for today and for Easter. On the walk home, I passed a couple men eating out of trash cans. So heartbreaking, but especially now when so many of the churches are closed and not feeding them their regular lunch. I know they have shelter options if they want them, but it still hurts to see the choice they've made. And as dangerous as eating half consumed burgers from a trash can normally is, I was just horrified at the thought of the virus germs they might be ingesting.
I need to go back and get more pastries this afternoon.4 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »We just got some extra dry beans, rice, and gallon jugs of water. We aren't really afraid of the virus, but more of the panicked shoppers that might clear the shelves, lol.
I’m glad I bought rice and beans and lots of water last week. I had no idea I was supposed to.
I was out of rice, beans were on sale, and someone suggested electrolyte water or Gatorade for my leg cramps. I hate Gatorade, so I bought a couple of bottles of every other kind of electrolyte drinks, as well as water.
I guess that means I’m good to go?
I'm in Ecuador in the city of Guayaquil. At first when I saw people overstocking food in the supermarket I thought they were crazy but couple of days laters we were all in quarantine and with mobility restrictions. We can go out maybe once a week to buy groceries and when you get to the supermarket it takes about 3 hours or 4 until you get in the supermarket. So it was not such a bad idea to overstock from the beginning 🤦. How is it here in Guayaquil? Terrible people are dying of all ages, they have to wait several days to get the body of your dead relatives in hospitals. And if they die at home it take several days till they authorities pick them up. Is really catastrophic and the worst nightmare. Soy if you can buy food for several weeks or a month so you don't have to go out just do it.
@verocpaz thanks for your update from Ecuador that confirms what I have been reading about how COVID-19 is impacting your country very badly. The only time lines I have read from those in the healthcare industry of this pandemic to pass is 6-18 months. We know lock down orders are just being rolled forward a few weeks or months at a time to help reduce panic. I do hope things start looking up in Ecuador and the rest of the world.5
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