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JustSomeEm wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Our city is closing down regiional park parking lots today through Sunday. The parks are still open to walk-ins and bikes, but there have been too many people and not enough physical distancing even without the expected holiday crowd. The notice started off "Nature's Not Going Anywhere!" 😊
I was worried about how sheltering in place with my husband 24/7 would affect our relationship. He is furloughed from his full time job in retail and of course we both have habits and tics that annoy the heck out of each other. But it turns out we've become more tolerant and kind over the last three weeks, and I'm grateful for that.
This has been a bright spot for me as well. My husband and I can both be somewhat . . . challenging to live with sometimes and I was worried about what it would be like for us once I began working from home. We've both become more considerate and flexible. Compared to some of the stuff I've seen on reddit about issues couples have been having in isolation, I'm living in a Disney movie.
*Note to self: Check out Reddit to pass the time...
There are so many petty spouse/sibling fights going on right now. It's really making me feel lucky that the worst thing happening in this house is that I'm terrible at loading the dishwasher and my husband sometimes misses sweeping up some hair after giving himself a trim.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »People are starting to feel it here. A substantial subset of workers are daily workers who earn per job/project/day of work and are not salaried, so no works means no money. Salaried workers are fine because they're being paid even if they aren't working from home and companies are not allowed to arbitrarily lay off employees.
They're planning to gradually open some sectors, starting with factories. For now, they're only allowing foreign workers who live in factory compounds to work at 40% capacity. Things have been going well so far, but I hope it won't get worse when more sectors start operating and more actively social people start working. Many people don't care to keep a safe distance.
This may be different from country to country. Here in the U.S., we salaried employees can still be laid off temporarily and not paid. Where I work, there are many in that category next week. We make parts for cars, and since auto manufacturers (our customers) are shut down, so are we. The plant I used to work at (same company, different division) makes auto parts also, but a different type of product. Unlike my current plant, their parts are also used in equipment of all kinds. They had a sudden business increase because one of their parts is used to make a ventilator.
Fortunately I am still WFH next week (all of us salary employees had a temporary pay cut, though), but much of the administrative staff even is laid off for the next week.3 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »People are starting to feel it here. A substantial subset of workers are daily workers who earn per job/project/day of work and are not salaried, so no works means no money. Salaried workers are fine because they're being paid even if they aren't working from home and companies are not allowed to arbitrarily lay off employees.
They're planning to gradually open some sectors, starting with factories. For now, they're only allowing foreign workers who live in factory compounds to work at 40% capacity. Things have been going well so far, but I hope it won't get worse when more sectors start operating and more actively social people start working. Many people don't care to keep a safe distance.
This may be different from country to country. Here in the U.S., we salaried employees can still be laid off temporarily and not paid. Where I work, there are many in that category next week. We make parts for cars, and since auto manufacturers (our customers) are shut down, so are we. The plant I used to work at (same company, different division) makes auto parts also, but a different type of product. Unlike my current plant, their parts are also used in equipment of all kinds. They had a sudden business increase because one of their parts is used to make a ventilator.
Fortunately I am still WFH next week (all of us salary employees had a temporary pay cut, though), but much of the administrative staff even is laid off for the next week.
The country is currently operating under defense law, so all the usual laws and rules are subject to temporary change if needed and new ones can be created on the fly. Companies tried to lay off employees to avoid paying, so they came up with a new rule that nullified all suspension or termination of employment and mandated choosing between paying salaries or registering as frozen if a company can't pay salaries (which means they will not be able to operate in any capacity while frozen).6 -
Some WI state parks were closed by the governor's order this week due to "crowding, vandalism, and littering." What does that tell you? Our county parks and dog parks are still open. And it is cold today and supposed to snow on Sunday, so maybe folks will stay in for Easter. I noticed considerably more traffic on the roads when I went to the dog park this evening--same time I've been going for a month now. A lot more traffic. If people are traveling for Easter, then we will see another spike, I suspect. Very frustrating for those of us who have been trying to follow the orders.
I am also one who is quite content to be on my own, as I have said before. I've had two friends who have really struggled with it and while we practice social distancing, we do meet at the dog park (only one of them at a time, not both). Compared to most other non-family groups, we are being very responsible. Today, a group of 5 walked abreast down the trail, leaving no room for me to pass, and keeping only 2-3 feet at most between them--even a 12-15 foot wide path isn't enough for that. I was a little steamed but didn't say anything. Fortunately it's around an open field and I could move well off the path, risking only the mud and maybe something a bit worse on my shoes (I got lucky and didn't step in anything). I wanted to extend my arm holding the "FetchIt" stick and say, "Give me my six feet, please." Maybe next time.9 -
JustSomeEM- We has to put in place a fesh start rule. We realize we’re getting on each other nerves saying what we don’t mean we look at each other say Restart Button. Lol our code word for pretend the last hours didn’t happen. It works for us we have a similar personality tho. We turn on Netflix a silly movie eat in the living room just chill out say nice things to each other. When we first started was hard not to dwell but now We forget what we’re arguing about like a light switch got flipped when our code word is spoken. Daughter loves the code word thing she only gets 1-2week shore leave so no time to argue. Think it’s easier cause we raised so many kids separately y together that we’re too old to want to argue anymore lol. Told him we can save it up y argue again in the nursing home some day lol 😆.Hubby says it will be about
You are my last pudding! No I did not I don’t like your pudding it’s not chocolate! Lol 6 -
Here in Italy 3 weeks of lockdown and it's been extended to May 3rd. The government keeps pushing opening back, saying "Just a little more". I think it's because they don't know what to do. Many businesses will have to stay closed for a longer time, including hairdressers, gyms
, and coffee bars. These are places with close personal contact.
There is a need to know who has antibodies and is no longer contagious. It was asked why it takes so long for the results of the test. Because it takes 2 weeks after being cured to do the test, then wait another 2 weeks to retake it because many in that time frame test positive again. So it takes a month or more.
Our new cases here are in decline, which is good news. Fewer patients are in intensive care. For the Easter weekend there is a crackdown on movement. Roadblocks are everywhere but especially on roads leading out of the city. No transfering to second homes in the country or beach. Helicopters will be checking for large groups on the roofs of buildings.11 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Here in Italy 3 weeks of lockdown and it's been extended to May 3rd. The government keeps pushing opening back, saying "Just a little more". I think it's because they don't know what to do. Many businesses will have to stay closed for a longer time, including hairdressers, gyms , and coffee bars. These are places with close personal contact.
There is a need to know who has antibodies and is no longer contagious. It was asked why it takes so long for the results of the test. Because it takes 2 weeks after being cured to do the test, then wait another 2 weeks to retake it because many in that time frame test positive again. So it takes a month or more.
Our new cases here are in decline, which is good news. Fewer patients are in intensive care. For the Easter weekend there is a crackdown on movement. Roadblocks are everywhere but especially on roads leading out of the city. No transfering to second homes in the country or beach. Helicopters will be checking for large groups on the roofs of buildings.
Even though New Zealand is tracking really well, I won't be at all surprised if we stay in lockdown past the initial four week period, just because they want to be sure it's well enough under control that we're not just going it end up going into lockdown again, and that there are no unknown pockets where it's quietly bubbling away.3 -
Well jhu is showing over 103k deaths worldwide and over 500k cases here in USA.
I am more and more concerned regarding nursing homes.6 -
just_Tomek wrote: »Ok am I the only one who is perfectly happy being home alone? Maybe because I have been single for a long time and very very independent that the self isolation is like nothing to me? I know for a fact if I had someone else in here, by now, we would have been separated anyways lol
I’m perfectly happy being alone most of the time, but my problem with quarantine is that I am NEVER alone. I have 4 decidedly non introverted boys, who can all at times be pretty loud. Between fun playing, fighting, 2 practicing piano and one clarinet, it can be so so many layers of noise going on in here that my head wants to explode. My favorite music is silence. Add that husband’s hours are cut, so he’s home 3 full days plus leaves later/gets home earlier, so add another practicing piano and asking me questions. I’ve taken to running a few days a week to get some quiet. I hate running.
I used to count on 1-2 hrs a day of alone time lifting at the gym. And my youngest, loudest, and most likely to fight with others went to preschool 3x a week so we could homeschool in quiet. Big boys had 1 day/wk of enrichment classes, and a morning for music/choir. And we had/have 2 in competitive soccer and 2 in rec baseball, so even though we were at games or practices at least once a day, they were all occupied and playing, so I could zone out a bit or walk around the field. They do play outside a lot, now that the weather is warming up, so that will be a sanity saver.
I do miss my weekly small group meeting and the weekly playgroup I host. I know the kids miss that too—we looked forward to seeing our best friends on the regular.
However, even with all the noise, I feel very lucky that we’re coping pretty easily. We homeschool, so there’s no real interruption to that, and they’re used to playing together, and we rarely watch tv or use electronics, so they can entertain themselves. The main thing that’s up here is audiobook listening and board game playing. And maybe wine consumption.8 -
To deal with family tension in a fun, light way (my son just went back to San Diego), the four of us -- my wife and two adult children and myself -- were having weekly Survivor votes. Who would get voted off the island if we could get rid of them! My son's dog is Floyd. The one day my daughter and I stuffed the voting box with a vote for Evan, my son, made in dog paws, like Floyd had cast it. We even had tiki torches set up to extinguish the torch!14
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gradchica27 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »Ok am I the only one who is perfectly happy being home alone? Maybe because I have been single for a long time and very very independent that the self isolation is like nothing to me? I know for a fact if I had someone else in here, by now, we would have been separated anyways lol
I’m perfectly happy being alone most of the time, but my problem with quarantine is that I am NEVER alone.
This. A zillion times, this. Luckily, my kids are both older teens (one is an adult, the other is [was?] in high school). When I need alone time, I hang out in my office with the door shut. Not quite the same as the solo commute I used to have, or going for a nice long run or bike ride, but it works for now when I can't get out. The sudden need to be home together has been quite an adjustment.MikePfirrman wrote: »To deal with family tension in a fun, light way (my son just went back to San Diego), the four of us -- my wife and two adult children and myself -- were having weekly Survivor votes. Who would get voted off the island if we could get rid of them! My son's dog is Floyd. The one day my daughter and I stuffed the voting box with a vote for Evan, my son, made in dog paws, like Floyd had cast it. We even had tiki torches set up to extinguish the torch!
I have an Evan too... And I love this idea! Tonight we've decided we're all going to put up tents in our back yard and camp out. Ok, *I* decided I was camping out, and the men in my house all jumped on board. But I'm really looking forward to "something different". I think the sudden shift to a very monotonous routine is getting to me.
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This street usually has very high traffic, even traffic jams at times. Seeing it like this is kinda eery.
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There's a music video posted in the meme thread with photos of empty (normally busy) areas of Chicago and NYC and (perhaps, I don't recall?) elsewhere that's really striking.4
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I had to get my boys out yesterday...they haven't been out of the neighborhood in a month and were starting to lose it. We went up to the mountains to do some hiking. They usually complain about going hiking, but they were just excited to go anywhere. It was a total of about 3 hours in the car for a couple hours worth of hiking, but totally worth it.
I'm cleaning up the camping trailer this weekend and de-winterizing...going to find a nice long weekend in May to go out and do some dispersed camping. Camping may be all we get this year in terms of "vacation" and getting away.10 -
There's a music video posted in the meme thread with photos of empty (normally busy) areas of Chicago and NYC and (perhaps, I don't recall?) elsewhere that's really striking.
It looks like one of those apocalypse movies.
Edit: some good news. They may close off the south (no confirmed cases there) and gradually return to normal there.6 -
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I had to get my boys out yesterday...they haven't been out of the neighborhood in a month and were starting to lose it. We went up to the mountains to do some hiking. They usually complain about going hiking, but they were just excited to go anywhere. It was a total of about 3 hours in the car for a couple hours worth of hiking, but totally worth it.
I'm cleaning up the camping trailer this weekend and de-winterizing...going to find a nice long weekend in May to go out and do some dispersed camping. Camping may be all we get this year in terms of "vacation" and getting away.
Camping has always been our get away of choice for vacations at our state parks. They currently are closed for camping until May 4th, and could be extended, depending on the next few weeks😢1 -
missysippy930 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I had to get my boys out yesterday...they haven't been out of the neighborhood in a month and were starting to lose it. We went up to the mountains to do some hiking. They usually complain about going hiking, but they were just excited to go anywhere. It was a total of about 3 hours in the car for a couple hours worth of hiking, but totally worth it.
I'm cleaning up the camping trailer this weekend and de-winterizing...going to find a nice long weekend in May to go out and do some dispersed camping. Camping may be all we get this year in terms of "vacation" and getting away.
Camping has always been our get away of choice for vacations at our state parks. They currently are closed for camping until May 4th, and could be extended, depending on the next few weeks😢
All of our state parks are closed as are NFS campgrounds, but you can still do dispersed camping and I don't see that changing. Basically just going up to the mountains and finding a fire road or forest road and roll until you find a nice spot to set up. I actually prefer this most of the time anyway as your rarely come across other people, and when you do, they're camped out a half mile from you.1 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »We just got some extra dry beans, rice, and gallon jugs of water. We aren't really afraid of the virus, but more of the panicked shoppers that might clear the shelves, lol.
I’m glad I bought rice and beans and lots of water last week. I had no idea I was supposed to.
I was out of rice, beans were on sale, and someone suggested electrolyte water or Gatorade for my leg cramps. I hate Gatorade, so I bought a couple of bottles of every other kind of electrolyte drinks, as well as water.
I guess that means I’m good to go?
I'm in Ecuador in the city of Guayaquil. At first when I saw people overstocking food in the supermarket I thought they were crazy but couple of days laters we were all in quarantine and with mobility restrictions. We can go out maybe once a week to buy groceries and when you get to the supermarket it takes about 3 hours or 4 until you get in the supermarket. So it was not such a bad idea to overstock from the beginning 🤦. How is it here in Guayaquil? Terrible people are dying of all ages, they have to wait several days to get the body of your dead relatives in hospitals. And if they die at home it take several days till they authorities pick them up. Is really catastrophic and the worst nightmare. Soy if you can buy food for several weeks or a month so you don't have to go out just do it.23 -
I just walked over to a local cafe to get a coffee and some pastries for today and for Easter. On the walk home, I passed a couple men eating out of trash cans. So heartbreaking, but especially now when so many of the churches are closed and not feeding them their regular lunch. I know they have shelter options if they want them, but it still hurts to see the choice they've made. And as dangerous as eating half consumed burgers from a trash can normally is, I was just horrified at the thought of the virus germs they might be ingesting.
I need to go back and get more pastries this afternoon.4 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »We just got some extra dry beans, rice, and gallon jugs of water. We aren't really afraid of the virus, but more of the panicked shoppers that might clear the shelves, lol.
I’m glad I bought rice and beans and lots of water last week. I had no idea I was supposed to.
I was out of rice, beans were on sale, and someone suggested electrolyte water or Gatorade for my leg cramps. I hate Gatorade, so I bought a couple of bottles of every other kind of electrolyte drinks, as well as water.
I guess that means I’m good to go?
I'm in Ecuador in the city of Guayaquil. At first when I saw people overstocking food in the supermarket I thought they were crazy but couple of days laters we were all in quarantine and with mobility restrictions. We can go out maybe once a week to buy groceries and when you get to the supermarket it takes about 3 hours or 4 until you get in the supermarket. So it was not such a bad idea to overstock from the beginning 🤦. How is it here in Guayaquil? Terrible people are dying of all ages, they have to wait several days to get the body of your dead relatives in hospitals. And if they die at home it take several days till they authorities pick them up. Is really catastrophic and the worst nightmare. Soy if you can buy food for several weeks or a month so you don't have to go out just do it.
@verocpaz thanks for your update from Ecuador that confirms what I have been reading about how COVID-19 is impacting your country very badly. The only time lines I have read from those in the healthcare industry of this pandemic to pass is 6-18 months. We know lock down orders are just being rolled forward a few weeks or months at a time to help reduce panic. I do hope things start looking up in Ecuador and the rest of the world.5 -
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Thank u very much. I guess we are safe as long as we stay inside. Hopefully this ends soon.3
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Thank u very much. I guess we are safe as long as we stay inside. Hopefully this ends soon.
Not 100%. There is a woman in NC who got it after staying inside for 3 weeks. She caught it from someone who delivered food (or some kind of essential delivery). But every time you wash your hands and every trip you avoid to the store, etc. makes your chances of getting sick a little bit less. Every little bit that is possible helps. I'm sure this woman would not have been any better off if she had stopped eating, so some risks have to be taken anyway. It's just about trying to minimize risk knowing that it will never be quite zero.4 -
Went to do our big Costco run today...finally found TP after a month. We were getting a bit nervous as we were down to our last few rolls and they were cheap single ply stuff my wife found a month ago when this all started.9
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I drove over to HomeDepot this morning thinking I might try to get seeds, but there was a line -- not too long and going reasonably rapidly, but still -- so I decided I would live without them, as that indicated it was more crowded inside than I really wanted to deal with. Driving back I noticed that there are again tons of people out, because it's nice. From what I saw it was mostly family groups together, not congregating in larger groups, and in one of the parks (I passed 3 of the biggest ones in my general area), I saw a police car driving through slowly, keeping an eye on things. Tennis courts were full, but again seemed to be separate family groups, and they are spaced far enough apart.
My neighbors' kids (2 boys) are outside in their backyard all the time playing with this new basketball hoop they got a few weeks ago, but of course being the city plenty of people with kids don't necessarily have a yard, so that's tough. I'm going to go outside and work on my garden some more in a bit, it's a good way to enjoy the weather without feeling like I have to dodge people.
I was on a Zoom call (not work related) a couple of days ago and one of the participants had, as her false background, this photo of huge stacks of TP. Someone made a tongue-in-cheek comment about buying TP from her before she explained (it was obvious when you looked at it for a while, but at first it looked very real). She said her daughter put it on as a joke and she couldn't figure out how to get rid of it.6 -
Piece on what runners are doing during coronavirus with races cancelled and popular trails closed: https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-coronavirus-chicago-running-20200411-zznd5xjxpfah3czhgeqgkeupyi-story.html
I never run on the most popular (and closed) trails anymore anyway, but had been planning to do spring races (and summer ones, which will also likely be cancelled). In my last place, the lakefront trail was exactly 1 mile from my house (more like 2 now), along the route I usually took, and it's marked, so was a great way to train, but parts of it are not shaded (not a big deal this time of year, but can be in the summer), and it is always crowded during decent weather and got boring, so a couple of years ago I started planning longer runs as a tour of neighborhoods or an opportunity to try out new trails, and even my shorter runs were usually through neighborhoods (you can gauge distance easily by blocks here too, although I'd have my Runkeeper too). I'd often choose direction by which light was green when I had to cross busier streets, and one reason I discovered my current neighborhood is because it was part of one of my running loops. Anyway, my training has not been good over the past few weeks although I've done short runs every other day, so I need to think through ways to get back into it. I'm trying out a virtual training session on Monday to get more interesting ideas about what to do with my inadequate set of not very heavy dumbbells. I know there's lots of bodyweight stuff that is great but I've always like barbells and dumbbells so much more.2 -
Today in Rome helicopters flying overhead to make sure people are not having group barbecues up on the terraces and roofs of buildings. They'll be flying tomorrow too. There are roadblocks everywhere. The fines are stiff for people who want to get out of the city and go to the beaches or mountains. To make things worse the weather is gorgeous.15
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corinasue1143 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »Ok am I the only one who is perfectly happy being home alone? Maybe because I have been single for a long time and very very independent that the self isolation is like nothing to me? I know for a fact if I had someone else in here, by now, we would have been separated anyways lol
My son-in-law said “don’t tell anyone I said this, but isn’t this lockdown just life? Nothing in my life has changed much except taking the kids to school and picking them up.” They are 14 & 15.
I thought about it. This is pretty much my life, except for the gym. I do miss runs to 7-11, and I am still putting off an oil change.
Yes SAME!!! I thought I was crazy, but I haven't really changed much. I guess I prefer to do things myself or just with my bf. I am very happy being on my own and doing my own things. I never get bored or stir crazy for parties/events/people lol.7 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Today in Rome helicopters flying overhead to make sure people are not having group barbecues up on the terraces and roofs of buildings. They'll be flying tomorrow too. There are roadblocks everywhere. The fines are stiff for people who want to get out of the city and go to the beaches or mountains. To make things worse the weather is gorgeous.
I'm curious, why? If a family is quarantined together, does it really make a difference for them to have a barbecue on the terrace? It's been raining a lot lately, but I can see people doing all kinds of activities in their yards or on the terrace once it clears up.4
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