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Hand sanitizer: If you have a local craft distillery - one that usually makes vodka, whiskey, gin, etc. - check their FB/web page, or call to see if they have hand sanitizer. My local sells it in gallons, or 2oz, at about cost to make. I've read about places in other parts of the country doing similar things. Helps a local business, helps you.7
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Hand sanitizer: If you have a local craft distillery - one that usually makes vodka, whiskey, gin, etc. - check their FB/web page, or call to see if they have hand sanitizer. My local sells it in gallons, or 2oz, at about cost to make. I've read about places in other parts of the country doing similar things. Helps a local business, helps you.
Yes! There is a place nearby that changed from making whiskey to hand sanitizer. I heard they sell the bottle (32 oz., I think? I don't drink whiskey, so not exactly sure what the bottle size is) for $35. That may be a little expensive for that size of container, but not terrible. Also, they are new to making it and I'm sure materials went up in cost too... so probably is about right. They were supplying the nearest hospital as well and not sure if they were charging or how much. If not, that explains part of the cost too. Either way, $35 for about a liter isn't bad.2 -
TP seems to have reappeared here as suddenly as it disappeared.
Stock has never been terrible, have managed to get some all along if I go as soon as shops open - but on weekend there was shelves full at both supermarkets on Sat afternoon.
Went to shops again Sun, just to get the weekend newspaper, still plenty on shelves Sun afternoon.
This would be unheard of a mere week ago.
( still one pack per customer)3 -
I'm a little concerned about food.
I've heard that meat processing plants are having a really hard time keeping up production, because of course they are. I can go without meat, but if meat processing plants are having a hard time, I imagine all food production is having a hard time, and I'm worried. I don't know what if anything I can do, besides try to garden, but even then, I definitely can't produce enough to feed my family.
I guess we'll just have to see what happens.4 -
Yeh, predicting what is or isn't available for each week has become sort of a mind game. Plenty of toilet paper and paper towels now, lots of bread, eggs are dwindling, I still find no hand sanitizer or disinfectant wipes, few bottles of bleach now, but no mushrooms, no spinach or lettuce type products? The ups and downs of product availability is strange and doesn't jive with my weekly shopping list. Lol
Not only that, they recommend you only visit the store once a week to keep exposure down but how can you do that if you can't find half of what you're looking for? I know some things I can substitute but I'm a spoiled brat who wants what I want. When there are very few greens and no mushrooms..........:/ Subbing ice cream hasn't helped.4 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Hand sanitizer: If you have a local craft distillery - one that usually makes vodka, whiskey, gin, etc. - check their FB/web page, or call to see if they have hand sanitizer. My local sells it in gallons, or 2oz, at about cost to make. I've read about places in other parts of the country doing similar things. Helps a local business, helps you.
Yes! There is a place nearby that changed from making whiskey to hand sanitizer. I heard they sell the bottle (32 oz., I think? I don't drink whiskey, so not exactly sure what the bottle size is) for $35. That may be a little expensive for that size of container, but not terrible. Also, they are new to making it and I'm sure materials went up in cost too... so probably is about right. They were supplying the nearest hospital as well and not sure if they were charging or how much. If not, that explains part of the cost too. Either way, $35 for about a liter isn't bad.
Local central IL distillery is selling hand sanitizer for $56.65 a gallon. Don't know where you're at but sounds high.0 -
Still very little TP or Bleach in this area, though I hit walmart yesterday at mid-day, and they had store-brand bleach and were restocking a limited supply of TP. One of the local grocery stores was selling single rolls - which I actually think is brilliant. It seems that folks are not as likely to make the effort to hoard single rolls, so maybe that will help stop hoarding and make sure folks who actually need it can get some. And it made me feel better to know that when I run out, I can at least go buy a roll or two at that store.
Today, I'm grateful for the ability to work from home and continue to provide for my family. I'm grateful for the knowledge of how to make many of my own things. I'm grateful for the ability to take mid-day work-break walks with my boys and pups. I'm grateful that my sons can do schooling online. I'm grateful.
Anyway, in case anyone needs it, PSA:7 -
CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »I'm a little concerned about food.
I've heard that meat processing plants are having a really hard time keeping up production, because of course they are. I can go without meat, but if meat processing plants are having a hard time, I imagine all food production is having a hard time, and I'm worried. I don't know what if anything I can do, besides try to garden, but even then, I definitely can't produce enough to feed my family.
I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
The issue with meat right now is that the major processing facilities are dealing with outbreaks. I believe the affect on food production will depend on how centralized the production of each item is, where those facilities are located, and how proactive the company is about safeguarding their workers and how crowded with employees those facilities typically are.
Unfortunately it seems commercial meat production in the US is quite centralized and required a lot of people in those buildings. So a couple of facilities go down and everyone feels it.4 -
CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »I'm a little concerned about food.
I've heard that meat processing plants are having a really hard time keeping up production, because of course they are. I can go without meat, but if meat processing plants are having a hard time, I imagine all food production is having a hard time, and I'm worried. I don't know what if anything I can do, besides try to garden, but even then, I definitely can't produce enough to feed my family.
I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
The issue with meat right now is that the major processing facilities are dealing with outbreaks. I believe the affect on food production will depend on how centralized the production of each item is, where those facilities are located, and how proactive the company is about safeguarding their workers and how crowded with employees those facilities typically are.
Unfortunately it seems commercial meat production in the US is quite centralized and required a lot of people in those buildings. So a couple of facilities go down and everyone feels it.
Agreed, my brother works in fruit processing and they are crazy strict right now because one outbreak could take out the whole plant, and that would impact a lot of packaged goods, like baked goods and frozen fruit, way up the chain. Fortunately, they are legit in the middle of nowhere, very rural, so COVID-19 hasn't really been able to take hold in the community in any major fashion due to more natural social distancing.6 -
I'm pretty concerned about this whole food chain thing - and not just meat. I would say to everyone, stock up on protein powder, pasta or wheat, nuts, beans, whatever protein sources you see at the store. Canned vegetables and fruits, etc.
I guess the government *could* deploy the National Guard or military to run the factories if it comes to that. Let's pray it doesn't.3 -
The only chronic shortage I am seeing here is powdered milk. My local Pig has received exactly one shipment of it in the last 2 months. I don't normally use it but have been keeping a sourdough starter and want to make English muffins. All recipes I have call for powdered milk. Both regular and evaporated add too much moisture to the dough. I have buttermilk powder but think it might be too rich.
This is especially ironic since area farmers are dumping milk because the demand has gone way down with institutions like schools and restaurants closed. The powdered milk manufacturers cannot keep up with demand but they don't have the facilities to cope with excess supply.1 -
earlnabby, can you use whey protein powder? I would think it would work.0
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The food supply hiccups are what prompted my kick in the rear to get my garden going this year! Lettuce is finally getting some real leaves on it, Swiss chard is getting bigger, might be a good strawberry crop with the growth off of last year’s plants, seeds started for several other things. Will it be enough to fully supply my family? No, but hopefully the farm down the road will continue to stay in operation so I can stock up once a week on seasonal produce from there as well. Our freezer is full of beef, we get 4 eggs a day from my old hens, with 9 new chicks in preparation for the next year or two of egg production (my current hens are going on 3 years old so they are slowing down).5
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One option I've been using is buying direct from farmers. I haven't needed meat yet, but they are selling that too. The website for my favorite farmers market has contact information for those participating.3
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cmriverside wrote: »I'm pretty concerned about this whole food chain thing - and not just meat. I would say to everyone, stock up on protein powder, pasta or wheat, nuts, beans, whatever protein sources you see at the store. Canned vegetables and fruits, etc.
I guess the government *could* deploy the National Guard or military to run the factories if it comes to that. Let's pray it doesn't.
What's the difference between stocking up and hording.
The national guard, etc can not run slaughter houses. Farmers have started killing pigs at birth, crushing fertilized eggs and dumping milk in some areas.5 -
One option I've been using is buying direct from farmers. I haven't needed meat yet, but they are selling that too. The website for my favorite farmers market has contact information for those participating.
That's great advice. A lot of small farmers who are used to selling at farmers markets are really struggling with so many markets closed.
If your market website doesn't have information, you could try something like the Weston A. Price Foundation and contact the local chapter leader for a list of local farms.
And if you're bored out of your mind staying home, a drive to a local farm might be fun.2 -
fitlulu4150 wrote: »We drove out to Lake Elsinore yesterday in hopes of seeing the poppies blooming and drove along the lake. Only sporadic small groups of people there but Riverside County is much more strict than OC and we have to wear masks when we go out. BTW, the poppies are still about a week I think from the best view of the fields. They still haven't really opened up yet so we're driving by next weekend again. You can't stop there though or walk through there.
Stay safe where you are!
A few months ago I had tentatively planned to go see the poppies in Antelope Valley this year and was talking with some neighbors about it last week. I decided not to go. They've asked us not to and while I'm more a proponent of opening things than keeping them closed, I am trying to abide by the guidelines, mandated and suggested. Apparently, they've set up cameras so we can see the poppies from the comfort of our living rooms (not the same thing at all!), and there are road blocks and police patrols to keep us out. I do have some in bloom in the neighborhood to look at. I guess I'll have to pretend.
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@whoami67, we're fortunate here, we can see them quite well from the freeway so we don't actually have to stop. It was so crowded last year that we couldn't find a place to park anyway and I saw a lot of people off trails and traipsing through the poppies. I wasn't happy about that at all. If we go next weekend I'll post a couple of photos for you..............1
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One option I've been using is buying direct from farmers. I haven't needed meat yet, but they are selling that too. The website for my favorite farmers market has contact information for those participating.
I'd also encourage folks to think about how shoestring operations (like some small farmers markets here) use social media. My favorite inner-city market doesn't have a lot of web site updates, but they've shared out farmer contact info on Facebook. Others may use Twitter or IG or others for mini updates - depends on who's running their social.
Also, if I search "Farm (mycityname)" on Facebook, I get some red herrings and regular stores, but the first dozen hits also include a couple of the farms that are selling right out of their farm/greenhouse. You may have to search a little (and the suggestion in this paragraph may not work for truly large cities - my metro is a few hundred thousand, with rural close . . . though some of these (mini-)farms are actually in the city.)
If I pretend I'm in Detroit (big metro, virus hotspot, about 90 minutes away), and Google "Detroit farms produce buying coronavirus", I immediately get recent news stories in my first 5 hits that include lists of local places to join CSAs, get produce boxes, buy meat/dairy/eggs, etc.
Five or ten minutes spent doing some creative searching may get you options in your area.
Yeah, it takes time to find them, at first. But some of the locals are doing a service that's quick on the other end, once you find it: Select items on line, pay online, go to the farm/greenhouse, they put your box in your car trunk, drive home. Easy. Some even deliver, or connect with delivery services.8 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I'm pretty concerned about this whole food chain thing - and not just meat. I would say to everyone, stock up on protein powder, pasta or wheat, nuts, beans, whatever protein sources you see at the store. Canned vegetables and fruits, etc.
I guess the government *could* deploy the National Guard or military to run the factories if it comes to that. Let's pray it doesn't.
What's the difference between stocking up and hording.
The national guard, etc can not run slaughter houses. Farmers have started killing pigs at birth, crushing fertilized eggs and dumping milk in some areas.
One starts with an "s", the other starts with an "h".?6
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