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Ok, so disincentives to testing, like cost or difficulty getting there or not meeting 'sick enough' criteria is going to lead to under reporting and obviously to more spread.12
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Absolutely. You've hit the nail right on the head.2
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paperpudding wrote: »Ok, so disincentives to testing, like cost or difficulty getting there or not meeting 'sick enough' criteria is going to lead to under reporting and obviously to more spread.
Just to be clear, this varies a lot by state. Here anyone who wants can get tested, and it's free and there are tons of locations. We are currently testing around 40K per day.3 -
paperpudding wrote: »Ok, so disincentives to testing, like cost or difficulty getting there or not meeting 'sick enough' criteria is going to lead to under reporting and obviously to more spread.
Just to be clear, this varies a lot by state. Here anyone who wants can get tested, and it's free and there are tons of locations. We are currently testing around 40K per day.
Do you know how long results are taking? Here it's two to over seven days depending on if the tests are sent out of state.0 -
my workplace is being super careful and if you are ill, you self quarantine. period. Regardless of test or not and they do the contact tracing immediately regardless of test or not. We lost our first co worker to this disease last week. So far we have not had any community spread internally but Tx is such a hot spot it's difficult for us to not know anyone at this point. The return to work criteria changes almost weekly and it's a complex flowchart of things but mostly it is 7 days starting the 3rd day after any symptoms are gone. So 10 days post symptom. And no longer is a Dr release required because I don't think Drs want to take the risk and they are pretty busy these days.
Again things continue to change rapidly but mostly as we learn more and deal with more I think.6 -
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200710212247.htm
Study links abnormally high blood sugar with higher risk of death in COVID-19 patients not previously diagnosed with diabetes
Date:
July 10, 2020
https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/26227/20200626/high-blood-sugar-levels-detected-coronavirus-patients-suggesting-covid-19.htm
High Blood Sugar Levels Detected in Coronavirus Patients, Suggesting COVID-19 Triggers Diabetes
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Diatonic12 wrote: »https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200710212247.htm
Study links abnormally high blood sugar with higher risk of death in COVID-19 patients not previously diagnosed with diabetes
Date:
July 10, 2020
https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/26227/20200626/high-blood-sugar-levels-detected-coronavirus-patients-suggesting-covid-19.htm
High Blood Sugar Levels Detected in Coronavirus Patients, Suggesting COVID-19 Triggers Diabetes
So many weird symptoms and effects. Very scary disease this thing. Hope all it’s little legs crack off and it dries up in the dust.8 -
paperpudding wrote: »Ok, so disincentives to testing, like cost or difficulty getting there or not meeting 'sick enough' criteria is going to lead to under reporting and obviously to more spread.
Just to be clear, this varies a lot by state. Here anyone who wants can get tested, and it's free and there are tons of locations. We are currently testing around 40K per day.
Do you know how long results are taking? Here it's two to over seven days depending on if the tests are sent out of state.
In New Mexico anyone who wants to get tested can get tested, symptoms or not, known exposure or not. This was a huge priority for our governor. We have a number of drive up testing sites that are operated by the DOH and by Presbyterian Hospital. Results are typically 1-3 days. Unfortunately, people are having to wait in line for about 4-6 hours to get the test and many people go at night and camp in their cars to get in line. They only have so many tests on hand, so a lot of people at the back of the line end up getting turned away later in the day. They're working to resolve this, but the only way I see that happening is if they only test those who are symptomatic or have had known contact that can be verified...IDK...we'll see.
You can also get tested at private facilities like our urgent care facilities and our CVS Pharmacy clinics...From what I understand though is that you have to have symptoms to be tested at these facilities. There are no long lines, but testing results are long...they were averaging 6-10 days about a month ago and now it's 15-30. DOH and PH have their own lab capabilities...the private entities have to send their samples out to the labs they contract with and I guess they're pretty overwhelmed as these labs are taking in samples from all over the country, or at least the southwestern region of the US.3 -
Transmission
The onset and duration of viral shedding and the period of infectiousness for COVID-19 are not yet known with certainty. Based on current evidence, scientists believe that persons with mild to moderate COVID-19 may shed replication-competent SARS-CoV-2 for up to 10 days following symptom onset, while a small fraction of persons with severe COVID-19, including immunocompromised persons, may shed replication-competent virus for up to 20 days. It is possible that SARS-CoV-2 RNA may be detectable in the upper or lower respiratory tract for weeks after illness onset, similar to infections with MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV. However, detection of viral RNA does not necessarily mean that infectious virus is present. Based on existing literature, the incubation period (the time from exposure to development of symptoms) of SARS-CoV-2 and other coronaviruses (e.g., MERS-CoV, SARS-CoV) ranges from 2–14 days.
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paperpudding wrote: »Ok, so disincentives to testing, like cost or difficulty getting there or not meeting 'sick enough' criteria is going to lead to under reporting and obviously to more spread.
There are also such long waits for results in many cases that testing is useless for identifying presymptomatic cases and preventing spread (unless people are quarantining while waiting for results, and you could achieve the same results with a mandatory lockdown -- or even a partial lockdown by lottery -- without testing, and without being any more arbitrary).
I feel like the only thing large-scale testing is good for in areas that don't have the infrastructure to process results quickly is to collect public health data that can be used to inform decisions about closing or opening businesses, schools, etc., mandating masks, etc.0 -
@paperpudding The test was $250.00, the same price it was months ago. We don't have any free tests.1
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Diatonic12 wrote: »@paperpudding The test was $250.00, the same price it was months ago. We don't have any free tests.
Could you clarify where you are please - as this seems to be varying within states of US ?? - if I have understood posters replies correctly
Doesnt take a genius to figure you are going to be under reporting of true state of affairs (and therefore not reducing spread) if individuals have to pay $250 to get tested
I know all countries systems are different - but I just find that situation so hard to get my head around.
Here, anyone with insisest symptom or remotest contact history can get tested, you just get a referral from your doctor.
The doctors surgery I work at - patient would get a phone consult with Dr the same day as anyone with any undiagnosed cold/flu symptoms not allowed on the premises (doesnt have to be their regular doctor any of the practice doctors can organise it), the form gets faxed to the drive thru Covid testing clinic at the local hospital, the patient drives or gets taken there, swab gets done, patient self isolates till next day, rings Dr, results are back.
Cost to patient_ Nil.
Location_ regional South Australia.
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Diatonic12 wrote: »@paperpudding The test was $250.00, the same price it was months ago. We don't have any free tests.
Cant you get free testing through telehealth?0 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Diatonic12 wrote: »@paperpudding The test was $250.00, the same price it was months ago. We don't have any free tests.
Cant you get free testing through telehealth?
Probably not. I had a list of symptoms in April and I called. No fever or cough. When they concluded they didn't think it was Coronavirus they weren't interested in what was wrong with me, at all. They hung up on me.
They diagnosed it as "Adjustment Insomnia." Yes, I was having trouble sleeping, but I couldn't confirm that sleep difficulty was connected to the other symptoms, since I do experience patches of difficulty sleeping. That one was not as bad as some others have been. I said so. I don't think she was listening any more by then.
I was also pretty dehydrated, but since I was having trouble thinking (my main concern, actually) it kept slipping my mind to drink more water once I got home. I wasn't drinking much water at work because I was trying to do masks correctly. I was still under the impression that if you couldn't wash your hands before and after touching the mask (to get the water into the mouth!) that you should just keep the damn mask on at all times. AT ALL TIMES!!! I also had joint and muscle pains that did, at least, decrease once I got the hydration back up. I don't still have the list, but when I put all the symptoms into WebMD, the most likely diagnosis from them was Covid. When I told the Teledoc, she mocked me for trying to self-diagnose. But it's not like she actually helped, so whatever.
My insurance is excellent. It doesn't improve my health care.4 -
I can’t give out my gps coordinates. Six degrees of separation is more like one degree here.🌎 There is no help for anyone with co19. You will have to drive yourself to a neighboring state if you need to be admitted in for emergency care.4
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I had a covid test this morning prior to hospital admission for minor surgery next week. It's pretty unpleasant. The swab goes 4 inches up your nostril and 6 inches down your throat. What surprises me is they can't seem to organize this at a local hospital so I had to travel an hour and a half each way on public transport to a hospital on the other side of London. I mean the test took maybe a minute: a swab up the nose and down the throat, stick the swab in a sterile container and send it to the lab.11
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We don’t have any room at the ‘inn’ or the adequate ventilation system to protect other patients. You are on your own or you will travel 3 hours one way to the hospital. I can only imagine that their locals are weary with us for taking up space in their hospital.4
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Ran into this story yesterday. https://www.newser.com/story/294058/hospital-must-turn-away-sickest-covid-patients.html
"The lone hospital in one Texas county is so swamped with coronavirus patients that it will start sending home patients who are deemed to be the most likely to die..."
This is what I'm afraid is going to happen here in Northeast TN if people don't stop with the mask-rebellion. It may already be too late. We're at over 80% capacity. There are over 2,000 tests backlogged in the state, per the TN Dept of Health, which means they can't contact trace those folk, I don't think. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) Plus, Bristol had that race, which means all 20k-30k people came in and went to all the restaurants and stores before Walmart and others made the "no mask, no service." I expect we'll see the results of that soon. Will they send folk to other regions or do what the hospital in the article may decide to do?
Not encouraging.10 -
Diatonic12 wrote: »I can’t give out my gps coordinates. Six degrees of separation is more like one degree here.🌎 There is no help for anyone with co19. You will have to drive yourself to a neighboring state if you need to be admitted in for emergency care.
Sounds like Wyoming...🐎2 -
baconslave wrote: »Ran into this story yesterday. https://www.newser.com/story/294058/hospital-must-turn-away-sickest-covid-patients.html
"The lone hospital in one Texas county is so swamped with coronavirus patients that it will start sending home patients who are deemed to be the most likely to die..."
This is what I'm afraid is going to happen here in Northeast TN if people don't stop with the mask-rebellion. It may already be too late. We're at over 80% capacity. There are over 2,000 tests backlogged in the state, per the TN Dept of Health, which means they can't contact trace those folk, I don't think. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) Plus, Bristol had that race, which means all 20k-30k people came in and went to all the restaurants and stores before Walmart and others made the "no mask, no service." I expect we'll see the results of that soon. Will they send folk to other regions or do what the hospital in the article may decide to do?
Not encouraging.
This can happen here (NW Tennessee) too. My county has a mask mandate now. It applies to businesses inside and outside when within 6 feet of others. So far today, with Sat. errands:
Grocery store gas station (entirely outside) - Nobody wore a mask. I only was just outside my car and mostly was more than 6 feet or had a fuel pump between me and others until the employee came over to change the receipt paper roll while I was still standing there.
Car dealership for oil change/tire rotation: signs on door about mask requirement. This is required of businesses in accordance with the ordinance. Employees and customers mostly wearing masks, exception was 1 employee (but outside) and a couple of customers.
Gas station / convenience store - went in for drinks. No signs at door as required. I was the only person with a mask - even the employee didn't have a mask.
Laundromat - No signs at door as required. Employee / manager is here, but not wearing a mask. One other customer was wearing a mask besides me, she had out if state plates (TX, so not a nearby state). I live near the borders with MO, AR, and KY, but assume she is actually traveling. So... around a dozen people not wearing masks.
Clearly this mask ordinance is being ignored and basically considered a joke.14
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