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Face mask or no face mask?

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  • mynameisnobody1990mynameisnobody1990 Member Posts: 71 Member Member Posts: 71 Member
    Without getting into super detail, let me just say I'm super compromised health wise. However, I consider my community. I wear a mask every time I'm indoors at shops, doctor's offices - anywhere indoors. My family does the same thing and they are more social than I. We feel it's just the proper and respectful thing to do.

    There's next to NO social distancing where I live even though it's recommended before one walks into an establishment!

    I've had no symptoms thus far. BUT!What if I'm one of the asymptomatic ones?? When I'm at the Doctor's office for my issues, I'm a little surprised people who have the same issues I have - do NOT wear masks. I just shake my head. There's no mandate for them yet here. I'm waiting on that. BIG time.
  • hist_dochist_doc Member Posts: 190 Member Member Posts: 190 Member
    amart4224 wrote: »
    Will you continue to wear your mask every year during flu season (which also kills hundreds of thousands of people each year), or do you only feel obligated to protect them from the "special" diseases?

    edited by a MFP moderator

    Hundreds of thousands of people do not die every year from the flu.

  • sijomialsijomial Member Posts: 16,967 Member Member Posts: 16,967 Member
    hist_doc wrote: »
    amart4224 wrote: »
    Will you continue to wear your mask every year during flu season (which also kills hundreds of thousands of people each year), or do you only feel obligated to protect them from the "special" diseases?

    edited by a MFP moderator

    Hundreds of thousands of people do not die every year from the flu.

    Worldwide deaths are certainly in that magnitude so are you talking about just one particular country?

    "Influenza remains one of the world’s greatest public health challenges. Every year across the globe, there are an estimated 1 billion cases, of which 3 to 5 million are severe cases, resulting in 290 000 to 650 000 influenza-related respiratory deaths"

    Source WHO - https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/11-03-2019-who-launches-new-global-influenza-strategy
    edited August 2
  • ReenieHJReenieHJ Member Posts: 2,246 Member Member Posts: 2,246 Member
    Again, I'll say it. All those signs and mandates are great but what good are they if no one is going to do anything about them when people enter the establishment, ignoring it all?
    You'd think, in a country as intelligent and advanced as America, there'd be a way. :(
  • mockchocmockchoc Member Posts: 6,409 Member Member Posts: 6,409 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Again, I'll say it. All those signs and mandates are great but what good are they if no one is going to do anything about them when people enter the establishment, ignoring it all?
    You'd think, in a country as intelligent and advanced as America, there'd be a way. :(

    Shame they can't build just build more jails for those that don't care about killing others.
  • stargirlhorsestargirlhorse Member Posts: 45 Member Member Posts: 45 Member
    Wear a mask when you're with someone you don't live with. Period. I don't wear them in the car with my family, but I do wear them into restaurants. And I don't take them off until the food arrives at the table AND the server left.
  • lynn_glenmontlynn_glenmont Member Posts: 8,214 Member Member Posts: 8,214 Member
    mockchoc wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Again, I'll say it. All those signs and mandates are great but what good are they if no one is going to do anything about them when people enter the establishment, ignoring it all?
    You'd think, in a country as intelligent and advanced as America, there'd be a way. :(

    Shame they can't build just build more jails for those that don't care about killing others.

    Don't give them any ideas. Once the pandemic is over they'd have all this empty jail space, and institutional thinking being what it is, they would just lower the bar even more for incarceration, or criminalize more behavior, just so they could fill them.

    If you want jail space for people who won't obey social distancing and masking orders, let out some of the people who are there for non-violent offenses.

    But I doubt that will matter. I heard a report on the local TV news this evening of a would-be customer who entered a restaurant without a mask, in violation of a state-wide mandate, and when an employee asked him to put on a mask, he spat on the employee. Police arrived but would not arrest him. The police just told him he couldn't come back to that restaurant for a year (which is really weird -- it seems outside the police powers to unilaterally issue what amounts to a restraining order, as opposed to having a judge do it). That doesn't seem like much of a deterrent for the next person who wants to come along and do his best to infect an employee.
  • mockchocmockchoc Member Posts: 6,409 Member Member Posts: 6,409 Member
    mockchoc wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Again, I'll say it. All those signs and mandates are great but what good are they if no one is going to do anything about them when people enter the establishment, ignoring it all?
    You'd think, in a country as intelligent and advanced as America, there'd be a way. :(

    Shame they can't build just build more jails for those that don't care about killing others.

    Don't give them any ideas. Once the pandemic is over they'd have all this empty jail space, and institutional thinking being what it is, they would just lower the bar even more for incarceration, or criminalize more behavior, just so they could fill them.

    If you want jail space for people who won't obey social distancing and masking orders, let out some of the people who are there for non-violent offenses.

    But I doubt that will matter. I heard a report on the local TV news this evening of a would-be customer who entered a restaurant without a mask, in violation of a state-wide mandate, and when an employee asked him to put on a mask, he spat on the employee. Police arrived but would not arrest him. The police just told him he couldn't come back to that restaurant for a year (which is really weird -- it seems outside the police powers to unilaterally issue what amounts to a restraining order, as opposed to having a judge do it). That doesn't seem like much of a deterrent for the next person who wants to come along and do his best to infect an employee.

    That's not a bad idea really, anyone that spits at someone right now should be locked up for sure. Some police officers in Victoria had a woman spit on them and release her dogs on them when they came to her home for some reason and then informed them she is waiting on Covid test results. Poor cops.
  • ReenieHJReenieHJ Member Posts: 2,246 Member Member Posts: 2,246 Member
    Maybe they need to slap a heavy fine on people who refuse to mask up in public areas? Not a puny 9 bucks, that's laughable. And for anybody who spits(wth is wrong with people these days???) slap a really heavy fine. If they don't pay it, throw them in jail with Covid positive inmates. I'm sorry but people, come on. Whatever happened to the word civilize in civilization??? I had a 4 yo daycare boy spit at me before and that was bad enough. Do some people not grow up at all??? If people are going to act like that, they need to be treated like the child they are.
    Heavy fines can buy metal detectors for the establishments' doorways to protect the workers from weapons entering the building. THEN enforce your signage.
    edited August 3
  • LockdownLoser23LockdownLoser23 Member, Premium Posts: 93 Member Member, Premium Posts: 93 Member
    I wear a mask solely because it is mandated, even though it has been stated repeatedly that it isn't effective.
    I am in the high risk category, as I have breast cancer. While I was in treatment for 3 weeks, I had multiple discussions with my oncologist. He always wore a mask and repeatedly stated that he hated them. He said they gave people a false sense of security. They aren't effective, and took his off when it was just the two of us talking. He said the only effective way to stop the spread of the virus is social distancing. He said to imagine the 6 liters of air expelled from the lungs as an aerosol, potentially containing a virus, hanging in the air like smoke. If smoke can get around the mask, the virus can.

    Because oncology is the study of airborne disease and the spread of it...

    Sure about that? Oncology is study of tumors - Virology is study of diseases
    edited August 3
  • will_it_go_round_in_circleswill_it_go_round_in_circles Member Posts: 578 Member Member Posts: 578 Member


    I wear a mask solely because it is mandated, even though it has been stated repeatedly that it isn't effective.
    I am in the high risk category, as I have breast cancer. While I was in treatment for 3 weeks, I had multiple discussions with my oncologist. He always wore a mask and repeatedly stated that he hated them. He said they gave people a false sense of security. They aren't effective, and took his off when it was just the two of us talking. He said the only effective way to stop the spread of the virus is social distancing. He said to imagine the 6 liters of air expelled from the lungs as an aerosol, potentially containing a virus, hanging in the air like smoke. If smoke can get around the mask, the virus can.

    Because oncology is the study of airborne disease and the spread of it...

    Sure about that? Oncology is study of tumors - Virology is study of diseases



    My point exactly
    edited August 3
  • 4legsRbetterthan24legsRbetterthan2 Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 18,150 MFP Moderator Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 18,150 MFP Moderator
    I wear a mask solely because it is mandated, even though it has been stated repeatedly that it isn't effective.
    I am in the high risk category, as I have breast cancer. While I was in treatment for 3 weeks, I had multiple discussions with my oncologist. He always wore a mask and repeatedly stated that he hated them. He said they gave people a false sense of security. They aren't effective, and took his off when it was just the two of us talking. He said the only effective way to stop the spread of the virus is social distancing. He said to imagine the 6 liters of air expelled from the lungs as an aerosol, potentially containing a virus, hanging in the air like smoke. If smoke can get around the mask, the virus can.

    Because oncology is the study of airborne disease and the spread of it...

    Sure about that? Oncology is study of tumors - Virology is study of diseases

    actually, virology is the study of viruses. Disease can be caused by bacteria (bacteriology), genetic disorders, and a whole host of other things.
  • will_it_go_round_in_circleswill_it_go_round_in_circles Member Posts: 578 Member Member Posts: 578 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    I wear a mask solely because it is mandated, even though it has been stated repeatedly that it isn't effective.
    I am in the high risk category, as I have breast cancer. While I was in treatment for 3 weeks, I had multiple discussions with my oncologist. He always wore a mask and repeatedly stated that he hated them. He said they gave people a false sense of security. They aren't effective, and took his off when it was just the two of us talking. He said the only effective way to stop the spread of the virus is social distancing. He said to imagine the 6 liters of air expelled from the lungs as an aerosol, potentially containing a virus, hanging in the air like smoke. If smoke can get around the mask, the virus can.

    Because oncology is the study of airborne disease and the spread of it...

    Sure about that? Oncology is study of tumors - Virology is study of diseases

    Pretty sure that was sarcasm - said because the PP was taking virology advice from an oncologist.

    Correct, thank you.
  • Diatonic12Diatonic12 Member Posts: 6,454 Member Member Posts: 6,454 Member
    Smoke knows no boundaries. Remember those old imaginary no smoking areas in restaurants and hotel lobbies.
    'Rona is similar. Everyone pitched a wild-eyed fit when No Smoking became the norm but eventually that's just the way we all roll now. We are creatures of habit.
  • TonyB0588TonyB0588 Member Posts: 9,044 Member Member Posts: 9,044 Member
    ShredWeek1 wrote: »
    I wear a face mask just the same way I would put on a seat belt when I get in a car...probably I won't get in an accident, but if I do I want to know that I took every precaution.

    The virus is an airborne virus. It travels in the air, it lands on surfaces. We don't know exactly how far it travels, how long it lingers on surfaces.

    Given that we know so little, I'm taking every precaution that I can.




    Not disagreeing with you, but apart from face masks we need to remember a lot more about touching those surfaces the virus lands on. Constant hand washing was taught to me as a child growing up, but I'm seeing lots of people who don't wash their hands even after using the washroom/toilet/loo/lavatory!!
  • pandry15pandry15 Member, Premium Posts: 11 Member Member, Premium Posts: 11 Member
    Read an article today that said COVID might be able to enter the ear canal. Shall we include ear muffs in this discussion or should I create another thread?
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