Coronavirus prep

Anyone in Illinois....there are vaccine appointments available at the mass vaccination site being set up at the United Center in Chicago. From today until Sunday, they are ONLY taking appointments for people 65+ (no essential workers, teachers, etc.) They open on March 9.

My understanding is they are initially giving the two-dose Pfizer vaccine. This site is being run by FEMA, and they expect to do 6,000 shots a day for 100 days. Pass along to any seniors you may know in northern Illinois.

33gail33 wrote: »

Re vaccination anecdotes: my young and perfectly healthy DIL (27) developed shingles one week after her first dose. I (55) got my first shot yesterday - no issues as of yet.

I would see that as coincidence - can't see how there could be any connection.

paperpudding wrote: »

33gail33 wrote: »

Re vaccination anecdotes: my young and perfectly healthy DIL (27) developed shingles one week after her first dose. I (55) got my first shot yesterday - no issues as of yet.

I would see that as coincidence - can't see how there could be any connection.

I think there is definitely a connection. The shingles virus is kept in check by your immune system and stresses on your immune system cause it to flare up. There has been a documented rise in shingles cases during the pandemic, and anecdotal reports of it after the vaccine. The info I read on it stated that there would be a certain number of cases to be expected in the vaccinated population after the shot because they are over 50 and prone to it anyway- and that they “should have” had their shingles vaccine. Well a 27 yo isn’t even close to that risk group and wouldn’t even be on the radar for a shingles vaccine. At any rate she got some meds from her doctor and is doing OK and is still planning on getting her second shot. I’m not anti vaccine by any means but just discounting it as a coincidence and brushing people off who have reactions after a brand new vaccine seems ill advised to me.
There is also some evidence of shingles erupting after non symptomatic covid - and it being a warning sign that someone has been infected and doesn’t know it.

missysippy930 wrote: »

My husband was picking up a prescription from the pharmacist yesterday. He asked the pharmacist about getting his second shingles shot. The pharmacist asked him if he got vaccinated for covid yet. No he hasn’t. The pharmacist told him that he can’t have the second shingles shot until he’s had been vaccinated for covid. I guess you’re not supposed to have other vaccines with in a certain amount of time of each other.

Some vaccines- correct.

My understanding is that covid vaccine should not be given within 2 weeks of other vaccines.

Which is going to be problematic here in Australia where covid vaccine is becoming available just when annual flu vaccines commence.

paperpudding wrote: »

27 is too young for shingles vaccine - but it isn't too young to get shingles.

Which, yes, can happen more when your immune system is under stress from any cause.

Still a coincidence not a direct cause and effect result.

Nobody is brushing people off who have adverse reactions to any vaccine - but everything that happens to occur a fortnight after having a vaccine is not an adverse reaction.
Some things are unrelated.

It's interesting that you say it can happen if your immune system is "under stress from any cause" - but that it can't be an effect of the vaccine putting your immune system under stress? Shingles can literally be triggered from emotional stress, viral illnesses, underlying health conditions - but it can't happen because of a vaccine?

I mean obviously we don't know for sure but it certainly seems plausible that a vaccine could put your immune system under enough stress to trigger it.

I don't know what a fortnight is - but this occurred 6 days after the vaccine. Her doctor advised that while it isn't a "known side effect" she can't discount that it was a vaccine reaction because we don't know enough about the vaccine yet. She reported it to Pfizer and the health department.

I guess we will see in time whether more cases like this appear or if there is any pattern. I will certainly be following any news on this.

Still a coincidence not a direct cause and effect result. I'm curious as to how you are confident enough of this to make such a definitive statement. Do you work in a related field? I'm not being facetious if you have some knowledge of it that would help me understand I am interested to hear it - I am not in the medical field I am just going on general knowledge and the research I have done.

33gail33 wrote: »

33gail33 wrote: »

missysippy930 wrote: »

33gail33 wrote: »

Re vaccination anecdotes: my young and perfectly healthy DIL (27) developed shingles one week after her first dose. I (55) got my first shot yesterday - no issues as of yet.

I’m just wondering if your DIL had the chicken pox vaccine.

I'm not sure - I just assumed she had chicken pox. My son is her same age and he didn't have the vaccine I don't think it was around back then? Or maybe it came out after he already had chicken pox he was very young when he got it.

Edit: no vaccine, she had chicken pox as a kid. The vaccine wasn't licensed in Canada until 1998 and the vaccine programs started in 2000.

Is it just me, or do others seem to have someone who disagrees with literally every post they write? Idk it just seems odd that someone would disagree with the above statements of fact. Like do they disagree that my son had chicken pox as a very young child? Or that the chicken pox vaccine was licensed in Canada in 1998? It doesn't really matter - it just really confuses me.

I feel like maybe someone has a problem with me and just disagrees with everything I post.

Go back a few pages and you'll see that other people get disagrees too. Some people are very sensitive to disagrees and may have to decide not to post if it really bothers them.

33gail33 wrote: »

33gail33 wrote: »

missysippy930 wrote: »

33gail33 wrote: »

Re vaccination anecdotes: my young and perfectly healthy DIL (27) developed shingles one week after her first dose. I (55) got my first shot yesterday - no issues as of yet.

I’m just wondering if your DIL had the chicken pox vaccine.

I'm not sure - I just assumed she had chicken pox. My son is her same age and he didn't have the vaccine I don't think it was around back then? Or maybe it came out after he already had chicken pox he was very young when he got it.

Edit: no vaccine, she had chicken pox as a kid. The vaccine wasn't licensed in Canada until 1998 and the vaccine programs started in 2000.

Is it just me, or do others seem to have someone who disagrees with literally every post they write? Idk it just seems odd that someone would disagree with the above statements of fact. Like do they disagree that my son had chicken pox as a very young child? Or that the chicken pox vaccine was licensed in Canada in 1998? It doesn't really matter - it just really confuses me.

I feel like maybe someone has a problem with me and just disagrees with everything I post.

I've found in this thread if you say something that someone disagrees with you'll get a disagree stalker for a few pages until they get bored or forget they were stalking you I've gone thru a couple of those myself.

hipari wrote: »

33gail33 wrote: »

33gail33 wrote: »

missysippy930 wrote: »

33gail33 wrote: »

Re vaccination anecdotes: my young and perfectly healthy DIL (27) developed shingles one week after her first dose. I (55) got my first shot yesterday - no issues as of yet.

I’m just wondering if your DIL had the chicken pox vaccine.

I'm not sure - I just assumed she had chicken pox. My son is her same age and he didn't have the vaccine I don't think it was around back then? Or maybe it came out after he already had chicken pox he was very young when he got it.

Edit: no vaccine, she had chicken pox as a kid. The vaccine wasn't licensed in Canada until 1998 and the vaccine programs started in 2000.

Is it just me, or do others seem to have someone who disagrees with literally every post they write? Idk it just seems odd that someone would disagree with the above statements of fact. Like do they disagree that my son had chicken pox as a very young child? Or that the chicken pox vaccine was licensed in Canada in 1998? It doesn't really matter - it just really confuses me.

I feel like maybe someone has a problem with me and just disagrees with everything I post.

Yeah - disagrees happen (and btw, I know we had a lil’ argument over vaccinating pregnant women a few pages back, but I’m not your disagree stalker, we’re cool). However I have a question about the chicken pox. I didn’t know it could affect covid vaccinations, could you elaborate on that?

I never had the chicken pox vaccine eiher and hadn’t even heard there’s a vaccine for it until I traveled to the US for an exchange program in 2008 and had to have either the vaccine or confirmation that I’d had it. Got blood tests to confirm I had it basically asymptomatically around the same time my best friend and my sister had it when we were kids. I lucked out with that one - a former colleague got chicken pox as an adult and it was nasty. Apparently the vaccine is in our national vaccination program for kids now.

I can’t really elaborate on it - I just know that my DIL had the Pfizer vaccine and 6 days later was diagnosed with shingles (which is a reemergence of the chicken pox virus). I suspect there might be a connection between the two as she is healthy otherwise and it is very unusual for a healthy young person to suddenly come down with shingles. She has since been in contact with others online who had a similar experience- but as of now there is no data or study showing that shingles can be triggered by the vaccine. I can’t say that it was the vaccine that triggered it, but I think it is plausible at least.