Coronavirus prep
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As an "essential worker" in manufacturing, here in Illinois, I fall into the 1b group that has opened up for vaccination. I left my position at UPS because they were not even following their own protocols last July. Manufacturing is higher on the list than Logistics. UPS (at least the specific location and tasks I was assigned to) certainly seemed riskier than the position I am in, now. I will not feel guilty for taking the steps I have taken to keep myself and my family safe - including signing up for my vaccine as soon as it becomes available to me. Even if I feel it would be "better utilized" elsewhere. My opinion on the matter won't get "my" allocated dose into the arm I think should be prioritized. It would only delay my own protection. I've heard the hysterical, breathless cries of "How many people have to die?!?!" so often that I am burned out and ready to be selfish.10
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I ran a few errands today at retail places that weren't crowded and that I thought I could get in and out of in just a few minutes.
At one place, there was an unmasked teenager shopping with an adult woman. I know not all legitimate issues for not wearing a mask are apparent, and I didn't say anything or even give her the stink eye, although I may have looked shocked for a moment -- it was really jarring, as for months now, most people in my area have been very good about mask compliance. I moved away to a different part of the store until they left the area where the stuff I wanted was stocked.
At another place, the customer just in front of me in line had his mask pulled down so that it only covered his mouth, not his nose. After he had paid, he stood just to the side, waiting for his purchase. The cashier motioned for me to come forward and didn't seem to understand my reluctance, why I wouldn't actually get that close to make my request. I had been feeling sorry for him for having to wait on the chin-strapper, but I guess it didn't even register with him.9 -
Thanks for all the kind thoughts on my brother. He's in the hospital, they changed meds -- Dexamethasone -- the same steroid that they put Trump on when he had it that can make some people act erratic. But it has been shown to be very helpful in survival rates. He's on oxygen but not yet on a ventilator, so that's a positive. Roughly 70% survive when they are put on Dexamethasone. My other siblings are working to get him antibody plasma, which is in short supply -- but my sister's significant other is type O and has the antibodies, so I think they are working on that.
Because some have asked, my brother was very active and thin (he got all the height in the family -- he's like six foot four). He was on some meds that I'm not fond of -- warfarin namely. Relative to others, he didn't fit into the normal "preexisting" category, other than the warfarin. I worried about the health of his liver, taking that for a while now. He was put on it because of blood clotting in his legs.
His wife is a nurse, so he's in good hands. I just wished that my siblings believed more in holistic herbs/meds. There has been ample research to hint that quercetin, resveratrol, tea, zinc, Vit D, Vit C, melatonin are all good ideas to have around if you do get it. Although (for good reason) he's been hesitent to ever use herbal supplements, as they are finding out -- by the time you have Covid-19 pneumonia, it may be too late to get medical assistance. That's why having some supplements/herbs around, just in case, along with an oxygen sensor, isn't a bad idea.
They were very careful with masks when out, but having adult kids living at home exposed them.
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I texted my mom yesterday and in her response she mentioned off hand that she and my dad were in the KMart parking lot waiting to see if they'd have a reaction to the vaccine. And I'm like Wait, What? You just got vaccinated? They didn't bother to tell me
I mean I don't know if you can tell from this thread but I'm kind of openly obsessed with the vaccines <sigh> I don't understand my life lol.
Anyway my dad was scheduled because he's 76. He brought my mom and they jabbed her too even though she's under 75. They got Pfizer and have appts for the second shot. She said they both felt the same as if they had the flu shot and as of today just a little arm soreness.20 -
I texted my mom yesterday and in her response she mentioned off hand that she and my dad were in the KMart parking lot waiting to see if they'd have a reaction to the vaccine. And I'm like Wait, What? You just got vaccinated? They didn't bother to tell me I mean I don't know if you can tell from this thread but I'm kind of openly obsessed with the vaccines <sigh> I don't understand my life lol.
Anyway my dad was scheduled because he's 76. He brought my mom and they jabbed her too even though she's under 75. They got Pfizer and have appts for the second shot. She said they both felt the same as if they had the flu shot and as of today just a little arm soreness.I texted my mom yesterday and in her response she mentioned off hand that she and my dad were in the KMart parking lot waiting to see if they'd have a reaction to the vaccine. And I'm like Wait, What? You just got vaccinated? They didn't bother to tell me I mean I don't know if you can tell from this thread but I'm kind of openly obsessed with the vaccines <sigh> I don't understand my life lol.
Anyway my dad was scheduled because he's 76. He brought my mom and they jabbed her too even though she's under 75. They got Pfizer and have appts for the second shot. She said they both felt the same as if they had the flu shot and as of today just a little arm soreness.
Congratulations! I know this is important for you. My mother, 91, in Minnesota is still waiting for her call.7 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Thanks for all the kind thoughts on my brother. He's in the hospital, they changed meds -- Dexamethasone -- the same steroid that they put Trump on when he had it that can make some people act erratic. But it has been shown to be very helpful in survival rates. He's on oxygen but not yet on a ventilator, so that's a positive. Roughly 70% survive when they are put on Dexamethasone. My other siblings are working to get him antibody plasma, which is in short supply -- but my sister's significant other is type O and has the antibodies, so I think they are working on that.
Because some have asked, my brother was very active and thin (he got all the height in the family -- he's like six foot four). He was on some meds that I'm not fond of -- warfarin namely. Relative to others, he didn't fit into the normal "preexisting" category, other than the warfarin. I worried about the health of his liver, taking that for a while now. He was put on it because of blood clotting in his legs.
His wife is a nurse, so he's in good hands. I just wished that my siblings believed more in holistic herbs/meds. There has been ample research to hint that quercetin, resveratrol, tea, zinc, Vit D, Vit C, melatonin are all good ideas to have around if you do get it. Although (for good reason) he's been hesitent to ever use herbal supplements, as they are finding out -- by the time you have Covid-19 pneumonia, it may be too late to get medical assistance. That's why having some supplements/herbs around, just in case, along with an oxygen sensor, isn't a bad idea.
They were very careful with masks when out, but having adult kids living at home exposed them.
It sounds like everyone is doing everything possible for your brother and it still must be so scary! I’m so sorry.
My staffer has been struggling for three weeks now and is finally around the bend. Thank goodness! But she still is nowhere near 100%. Running a fever daily for weeks on end—yikes! Coughing so hard she can’t breathe. 👎🏻 This has been awful for her. And she is completely remote and goes no where, her boyfriend bought it home to her. 😞 He feels horrible for bringing it home. Even the most careful people can get infected.
People can bring it home without showing symptoms themselves. Speaking from my limited experience, only a few out of a hundred or so cases I have worked with directly have had symptoms in my college students. Most are downright shocked when their test comes back positive.
I truly hope your brother heals quickly and completely. 💖9 -
And here’s a kicker. Our county decided today that the “educator” category in 1b only includes K-12 and not higher ed. Thank goodness my university gets our vaccines from the state and not the county. But that doesn’t help my colleagues at other institutions around the county who are being pressured to return on-site with no chance of vaccines on the horizon. 😞7
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GaleHawkins wrote: »
That is awesome! And this among the highest risk group of people is especially promising! Even if you still get it after vaccination, it's nice to know it will most likely be manageable, like a cold, instead of deadly. But I guess it shows us why we still have to mask and take precautions even after vaccination, so that if we do still end up getting a mild version, we don't spread it to people who aren't vaxxed yet and who can still get a serious or even deadly case.3 -
And here’s a kicker. Our county decided today that the “educator” category in 1b only includes K-12 and not higher ed. Thank goodness my university gets our vaccines from the state and not the county. But that doesn’t help my colleagues at other institutions around the county who are being pressured to return on-site with no chance of vaccines on the horizon. 😞
Well, you know, there are a lot of people, in a lot of industries, that are not being "pressured" to return to work in-person...we are already there, and have been for a long time.
My industry is not considered essential, but I have to be there every day, in person, among other people. It's a huge risk to myself and my family. But if I don't go, I won't have a job, and I'm the sole financial support for my household.
I will have no vaccine priority, and neither will any of my colleagues here or across the country. We are being told that our group will START becoming eligible on May 31st.
It sucks that we can't just vaccinate everyone all at once, but it also sucks that everyone has reasons that they think they should be in line ahead of other people.14 -
I'm sorry to be in a bad mood about it today, but until I can get vaccine appointments for my elderly parents with pre-existing conditions, I don't really want to see sad face emojis about young healthy people who think they should be in line ahead of them.20
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Update on my brother -- he seems to be stabilized. He's not struggling for breath and is still on oxygen but didn't have to be vented. They have him still on the steroids but not on antibiotics. All the nurses in my family (and there are a ton of them!) are quibbling with the healthcare provider on why he isn't on antibiotics. I don't get in that mess.
I've read up a bit on antibiotics -- it seems only 10% of patients with Covid-19 have bacterial pneumonia (something antibiotics will help) and if they come in with pneumonia already when they are admitted, like my brother, it's assumed that the pneumonia is viral, so antibiotics won't help and potentially could hurt. Antibiotic use, if not merited, can lead to kidney damage or even death by C Diff infections in some. So hospitals are understandably pulling back from the early antibiotic use right away.
That's the good news. My poor SIL, though. Her mom just died and now her Dad has Covid-19. He's 85 and diabetic. That's a lot for her family to have to go through. That's why they were so, so careful for so long -- her and my brother were the caregivers for her Mom as she was dying. Her mom died of natural causes, BTW.27 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
Yes, excellent news.
Adding this just because I need to eye roll about it somewhere: The Q conspiracists are spreading stories that whole nursing homes full of people have died, simply from getting the vaccine (not the disease).
From what I'm able to tell, there is a tiny, tiny kernel of reality in there, very small instances where people at the very, very extreme of age and ill health in congregate care situations have died after receiving the vaccine - so fragile that it's possible the immune response had some role in tipping the balance. The decision (administrative or familial) to vaccinate or not, in the age 100+, fragile health, pre-existing disease scenario . . . that has to be extraordinarily tough. Either answer could be wrong.
I'm not going to link any of the Q-crap, but it's out there. The link below is a more grown-up news report on the type of underlying issue that's been exploited** by the conspiracy theorist types to spread FUD:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/norway-covid-19-vaccine-elderly-deaths-no-link/
Literally, one of the conspiracy links I saw referred to the Norway cases.11 -
I read they are best used for mild COVID cases?RetiredAndLovingIt wrote: »Dr. Oz (I know people think he's a quack) was talking about those monoclonal antibodies the other day and he said everyone should try to get them if they have Covid, especially if they meet the qualifications.
Are doctors prescribing any treatments for mild cases now? Months back when I had it, I was just told to stay home and isolate, no additional advice given.3 -
So, my state and county keeps opening up age groups (70 and above now) and new occupations, while medical high risk groups keep getting pushed back. Since I have diabetes and lupus I am not delighted to keep getting pushed back down the line. Then it occurred to me: this is happening because the state has no idea how they are going to identify individuals at high risk. There is no “hi, I’m a diabetic” club card, and with people cheating and bribing to jump the line, it would be super easy to forge a doctor’s note, or even pay your doctor to write one. While it’s easy to identify a teacher or a fireman, they have work ID cards, and age is even easier, it’s on your driver’s license.
I’ve seen the 75 page long state plan for vaccination and there’s a section supposedly devoted to how they are going to identify at risk people, and it’s one sentence saying they are going to use some database I never heard of, which I’m pretty sure I am not in.
No proof, just a wild theory, but I am guessing there is no plan, so they keep postponing it. They have already changed “diabetic” to “diabetic requiring medication,” which makes sense if they are going to demand proof of a prescription.12 -
I read they are best used for mild COVID cases?RetiredAndLovingIt wrote: »Dr. Oz (I know people think he's a quack) was talking about those monoclonal antibodies the other day and he said everyone should try to get them if they have Covid, especially if they meet the qualifications.
Are doctors prescribing any treatments for mild cases now? Months back when I had it, I was just told to stay home and isolate, no additional advice given.
What I'd read is that they're best used *early* in disease course, while symptoms are still relatively mild for most people . . . which is a slightly different thing. (They may help to keep the disease symptoms milder than they otherwise would've been, of course - that's what the statistics suggest, IMU.)
It's also part of the problem with people getting the treatment, per the local report I posted up-thread: People don't necessarily seek treatment at the point when the monoclonal antibodies seem to provide the most benefit.7 -
We've been okay, at least we are now in our household. When people say "Oh we're staying home and doing everything right" usually they miss a step and are in fact getting together with a friend, or think wearing a mask 50% of the time covers it. When I say we are and have been doing everything right I mean I've been home since last March, I've been sewing masks and giving them out to friends and family (through the mail) and keeping myself occupied by baking. Every morning my husband uses antibacterial wipes and wipes down all surfaces and handles in our home, I do the same thing at night after everyone goes to bed. We wear our masks to answer the door, and my husband alone does the grocery shopping. We have only one weak link and that's my mentally disabled stepson, he stays in a group home 4 days a week for therapy and so he has more interaction. Well, he got Covid there and brought it home to us, hubby got sick too. I managed to not catch it, which proves our measures of mask wearing and disinfecting WORK. They are on the mend, and have since both been vaccinated, my mother in law got her vaccine too.
I'm betting I have to wait another 3 months to get mine, but that's okay, I'm still home and probably will be home baking until this is over. I have stuck to my diet, I REFUSE to let this derail my goals.
Out of 7 people close to us who have gotten Covid 4 have died, so it's been a sad year for us.28 -
My mother (75+) got her vaccine appointment today. My dad (74) has to wait.
I've got the extra health risks that could potentially get me in for a shot, but my personality is loving the isolation and I'm content for teachers, grocery store workers and everyone who needs socializing to go first.14 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
Yes, excellent news.
Adding this just because I need to eye roll about it somewhere: The Q conspiracists are spreading stories that whole nursing homes full of people have died, simply from getting the vaccine (not the disease).
From what I'm able to tell, there is a tiny, tiny kernel of reality in there, very small instances where people at the very, very extreme of age and ill health in congregate care situations have died after receiving the vaccine - so fragile that it's possible the immune response had some role in tipping the balance. The decision (administrative or familial) to vaccinate or not, in the age 100+, fragile health, pre-existing disease scenario . . . that has to be extraordinarily tough. Either answer could be wrong.
I'm not going to link any of the Q-crap, but it's out there. The link below is a more grown-up news report on the type of underlying issue that's been exploited** by the conspiracy theorist types to spread FUD:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/norway-covid-19-vaccine-elderly-deaths-no-link/
Literally, one of the conspiracy links I saw referred to the Norway cases.
Between 7000 and 8000 people die every day in the U.S. We're vaccinating about a million people a day. My arithmetic could be off, but I believe that means even with vaccines administered randomly, about 20 people a day would die within a day of getting the vaccine. But we're not administering vaccines randomly. We're disproportionately targeting the elderly and those with preexisting conditions -- people more likely to die anyway. I don't think we should be concerned by a few random people dying after getting the vaccine until somebody steps up with a statistical analysis indicating excess deaths in the group receiving vaccines.15 -
What do you all think of this? Everyone was talking about it at work today...... not sure if she is a "quack" or not, but shows why so many people are afraid of the vaccine. Wondering what you guys think of this.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/thgHE7VUsDrn/
This MD says the mRNA is not destroyed and never stops making S- protein fragments (no off button) and the antibodies formed destroy type 1 macrophages and destroy lung tissue.
https://vaxxter.com/covid-vaccines-part-2/1 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »What do you all think of this? Everyone was talking about it at work today...... not sure if she is a "quack" or not, but shows why so many people are afraid of the vaccine. Wondering what you guys think of this.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/thgHE7VUsDrn/
This MD says the mRNA is not destroyed and never stops making S- protein fragments (no off button) and the antibodies formed destroy type 1 macrophages and destroy lung tissue.
https://vaxxter.com/covid-vaccines-part-2/
Bitchute is widely understood as one of those so-called "free speech" sites that's willing to host most anything (it specializes in a particular political bent, that I won't get into here for TOS reasons), so is a locus for conspiracy theories, tolerance of what many would call "hate speech", and that sort of thing.
Vaxxter appears to be an anti-vax site, and boosts/markets "detox" supplements (and other supplements, sold, by coincidence (heh), in a store that's affiliated with their organization).
I'm not going to watch the videos, considering the sources. I used to watch things like that in the interest of fairness, but I just don't have the energy for more of that anymore, frankly. Yeah, that's a personal limitation, I guess.
The idea that "mRNA . . . (has) no off button" is exactly counter to what I've read from sources I consider more authoritative, including varied specialist, credentialed experts in the specific related fields (virology, genetics, etc.). They say that (using metaphors here that I made up), the mRNA transcription is not ongoing, that the mRNA is more like a grocery list scribbled on the back of an envelope, used as instructions one time around, then tossed afterwards.
Even if it did keep programming antibodies . . . why would those antibodies, constructed to combat a particular viral configuration, suddenly start attacking something not even remotely similar like "type 1 microphages and . . . lung tissue"?
I'm not an expert, I don't know. But on a hobbyist science-geek sniff test, this one smells like garbage, frankly.
Yes, nonsense like this is part of why people are vaccine hesitant, suspicious, etc. 🙄20 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »What do you all think of this? Everyone was talking about it at work today...... not sure if she is a "quack" or not, but shows why so many people are afraid of the vaccine. Wondering what you guys think of this.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/thgHE7VUsDrn/
This MD says the mRNA is not destroyed and never stops making S- protein fragments (no off button) and the antibodies formed destroy type 1 macrophages and destroy lung tissue.
https://vaxxter.com/covid-vaccines-part-2/
Bitchute is widely understood as one of those so-called "free speech" sites that's willing to host most anything (it specializes in a particular political bent, that I won't get into here for TOS reasons), so is a locus for conspiracy theories, tolerance of what many would call "hate speech", and that sort of thing.
Vaxxter appears to be an anti-vax site, and boosts/markets "detox" supplements (and other supplements, sold, by coincidence (heh), in a store that's affiliated with their organization).
I'm not going to watch the videos, considering the sources. I used to watch things like that in the interest of fairness, but I just don't have the energy for more of that anymore, frankly. Yeah, that's a personal limitation, I guess.
The idea that "mRNA . . . (has) no off button" is exactly counter to what I've read from sources I consider more authoritative, including varied specialist, credentialed experts in the specific related fields (virology, genetics, etc.). They say that (using metaphors here that I made up), the mRNA transcription is not ongoing, that the mRNA is more like a grocery list scribbled on the back of an envelope, used as instructions one time around, then tossed afterwards.
Even if it did keep programming antibodies . . . why would those antibodies, constructed to combat a particular viral configuration, suddenly start attacking something not even remotely similar like "type 1 microphages and . . . lung tissue"?
I'm not an expert, I don't know. But on a hobbyist science-geek sniff test, this one smells like garbage, frankly.
Yes, nonsense like this is part of why people are vaccine hesitant, suspicious, etc. 🙄
Yes, this was the general consensus of what most of us all thought and I agree. However, there were 3 doctors who I work with who refuse to be vaccinated and believe this. They brought it up as "evidence" today when we were talking about it. I just was surprised that even doctors are believing this stuff.6 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »What do you all think of this? Everyone was talking about it at work today...... not sure if she is a "quack" or not, but shows why so many people are afraid of the vaccine. Wondering what you guys think of this.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/thgHE7VUsDrn/
This MD says the mRNA is not destroyed and never stops making S- protein fragments (no off button) and the antibodies formed destroy type 1 macrophages and destroy lung tissue.
https://vaxxter.com/covid-vaccines-part-2/
Everything I've read that didn't come from a blatantly anti vaxx source says the mRNA instructions are fragile and dissolve quickly. That is why these vaccines have to be kept in deep freeze, to keep the mRNA from disolving before the vaccination is given
I didn't watch the video, but I googled Dr Sherri Tenpenny and she is an osteopath who still insists vaccines cause autism. She has equated required vaccinations to slavery and rape, talks a lot about the Illuminati, and sells DVDs supplements and books by appearing on Dr Oz and at chiropractic, alternative health, and anti vaxx conventions. She is obviously a conspiracy theory quack selling snake oil by fear mongering actual science.
Vaxxter is a known fake news anti vaxx website and I'm not going to give them a click.
It's terrifying that some practicing doctors don't know how to vet medical sources. It took me literally 5 minutes to find this info.22 -
This year has highlighted how little people know how to find reputable information. I am a library director and we are working on a class about fake news, how to spot misinformation, how to find correct info, etc. It is badly needed, especially now.23
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »What do you all think of this? Everyone was talking about it at work today...... not sure if she is a "quack" or not, but shows why so many people are afraid of the vaccine. Wondering what you guys think of this.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/thgHE7VUsDrn/
This MD says the mRNA is not destroyed and never stops making S- protein fragments (no off button) and the antibodies formed destroy type 1 macrophages and destroy lung tissue.
https://vaxxter.com/covid-vaccines-part-2/
Everything I've read that didn't come from a blatantly anti vaxx source says the mRNA instructions are fragile and dissolve quickly. That is why these vaccines have to be kept in deep freeze, to keep the mRNA from disolving before the vaccination is given
I didn't watch the video, but I googled Dr Sherri Tenpenny and she is an osteopath who still insists vaccines cause autism. She has equated required vaccinations to slavery and rape, talks a lot about the Illuminati, and sells DVDs supplements and books by appearing on Dr Oz and at chiropractic, alternative health, and anti vaxx conventions. She is obviously a conspiracy theory quack selling snake oil by fear mongering actual science.
Vaxxter is a known fake news anti vaxx website and I'm not going to give them a click.
It's terrifying that some practicing doctors don't know how to vet medical sources. It took me literally 5 minutes to find this info.
I think the personality profile that's attracted to conspiracy theories is as likely to occur in doctors as in anyone else. (I do think there is such a personality profile, but I'm hesitant to speculate about it here.)
One would like to think doctors have better science education than most others, but I think the general public overrates the comprehensiveness and depth of that *science* education (as opposed to education on the physiology and pharmacology and whatnot that's core to getting their job done). Witness the number of people here who think GPs have insight about nutrition and weight loss (some may, but . . . .).
The cynical exploitation of "being a doctor" to sell nonsense is a whole different matter, but in some cases hard to distinguish which woo-slinging doctors are cynical exploiters vs. deluded true believers themselves.12 -
We should also not dismiss everything that's against the mainstream view.
I'm sure at one point there were 'thalidomide conspiracy nuts' being dismissed because of what they said.
As with any claim or news source, evaluate the argument and look for evidence.8 -
I read an article about just this, the other day. Can’t remember the exact cohort that was selected, but I think it was one million 55-65 year olds over the course of one week - anyway the point was to pick a group and compare them to the number of people vaccinated in a week. And in that cohort, statistics would cause you to expect about 800 heart attacks. I’m pretty sure that one IS the correct number because I remember being shocked by it.lynn_glenmont wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »
Yes, excellent news.
Adding this just because I need to eye roll about it somewhere: The Q conspiracists are spreading stories that whole nursing homes full of people have died, simply from getting the vaccine (not the disease).
From what I'm able to tell, there is a tiny, tiny kernel of reality in there, very small instances where people at the very, very extreme of age and ill health in congregate care situations have died after receiving the vaccine - so fragile that it's possible the immune response had some role in tipping the balance. The decision (administrative or familial) to vaccinate or not, in the age 100+, fragile health, pre-existing disease scenario . . . that has to be extraordinarily tough. Either answer could be wrong.
I'm not going to link any of the Q-crap, but it's out there. The link below is a more grown-up news report on the type of underlying issue that's been exploited** by the conspiracy theorist types to spread FUD:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/norway-covid-19-vaccine-elderly-deaths-no-link/
Literally, one of the conspiracy links I saw referred to the Norway cases.
Between 7000 and 8000 people die every day in the U.S. We're vaccinating about a million people a day. My arithmetic could be off, but I believe that means even with vaccines administered randomly, about 20 people a day would die within a day of getting the vaccine. But we're not administering vaccines randomly. We're disproportionately targeting the elderly and those with preexisting conditions -- people more likely to die anyway. I don't think we should be concerned by a few random people dying after getting the vaccine until somebody steps up with a statistical analysis indicating excess deaths in the group receiving vaccines.
My mushy memory for statistics aside, the point was that if those people were just vaccinated the heart attack gets reported as associated with the vaccine. That doesn’t mean it was caused by the vaccine. But it does mean that there are 800 separate people Fox can contact in hopes of writing an interview with a real person who swears the vaccine gave them a heart attack. And the headline “Eight hundred people have heart attacks after vaccine!” sounds very scary.
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »And here’s a kicker. Our county decided today that the “educator” category in 1b only includes K-12 and not higher ed. Thank goodness my university gets our vaccines from the state and not the county. But that doesn’t help my colleagues at other institutions around the county who are being pressured to return on-site with no chance of vaccines on the horizon. 😞
Well, you know, there are a lot of people, in a lot of industries, that are not being "pressured" to return to work in-person...we are already there, and have been for a long time.
My industry is not considered essential, but I have to be there every day, in person, among other people. It's a huge risk to myself and my family. But if I don't go, I won't have a job, and I'm the sole financial support for my household.
I will have no vaccine priority, and neither will any of my colleagues here or across the country. We are being told that our group will START becoming eligible on May 31st.
It sucks that we can't just vaccinate everyone all at once, but it also sucks that everyone has reasons that they think they should be in line ahead of other people.
I know. I’m one of them. Never left. But to plan to require the higher ed people to come back in person and deprioritize them for vaccines isn’t right.
The community colleges in CA are vital to access for higher education for students from marginalized groups—they feed directly into the CSU system. Online classes are not necessarily accessible to communities with fewer resources and the system wants to get students back on track before the opportunity is lost for them.
Those of us on-site have been at high risk for almost a year now with no vaccines. I just think if you can’t vaccinate, then let them stay remote. I know it’s not ideal, but few things are right now. Why put more people at risk?6 -
rheddmobile wrote: »So, my state and county keeps opening up age groups (70 and above now) and new occupations, while medical high risk groups keep getting pushed back. Since I have diabetes and lupus I am not delighted to keep getting pushed back down the line. Then it occurred to me: this is happening because the state has no idea how they are going to identify individuals at high risk. There is no “hi, I’m a diabetic” club card, and with people cheating and bribing to jump the line, it would be super easy to forge a doctor’s note, or even pay your doctor to write one. While it’s easy to identify a teacher or a fireman, they have work ID cards, and age is even easier, it’s on your driver’s license.
I’ve seen the 75 page long state plan for vaccination and there’s a section supposedly devoted to how they are going to identify at risk people, and it’s one sentence saying they are going to use some database I never heard of, which I’m pretty sure I am not in.
No proof, just a wild theory, but I am guessing there is no plan, so they keep postponing it. They have already changed “diabetic” to “diabetic requiring medication,” which makes sense if they are going to demand proof of a prescription.
Two of my staffers who are immune-compromised have had doctors (different ones) get them their appointments. Could your doctor help you get an appointment?1 -
I haven't had a chance to process this fact yet... Anyway, I have been staying on top of vaccination information in my area. I read that smokers will be vaccinated in the next group. My group won't come up for a bit, as I have no serious health issues; however, I was surprised about smokers being in the next group. I mean no offense to smokers. Just that they were in a group ahead of others with issues beyond their control.10
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