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Every high profile politician in my area is taking the AstraZeneca vaccine on TV - guess they have no choice if they want to boost confidence in it they have to walk the walk.
Although I have heard of people refusing it here that isn't happening in my circle - I am 55 and my social media feeds have been loaded this week with posts from people around my age who have taken it as soon as they qualified.11 -
Lockdowns around the world via Aljazeera. https://apple.news/AGCoUW9EiQBy70o7ckqZgGA
Things look especially bad in Brazil. 😞 https://apple.news/A8umhW3R2RgSaKzYOe_OcAg3 -
Read an interesting article about vaccine side effects today - it’s in Finnish so no point in linking, but wanted to share the point anyway. For vaccines, the benefit isn’t concrete and immediately felt by an individual, but negative side effects (arm pain, fever etc) are. For many medications, it’s the opposite. The article mentions regular OTC painkillers as an example: they give people the immediate concrete benefit of killing the pain, but people rarely think about the side effects even though rare effects like liver damage and internal bleeding kill people every year.
(Yes, I know the benefit of the covid vaccine is very concrete, but it’s not something that will immediately start curing an individual or prevent something they would otherwise suffer for sure.)11 -
looking to have someone explain how the following works.
i was listening to another of the John Campbell YouTubes an he was taking about the blood clot issues with the AstraZeneca vaccine. In it, he was mentioning that when the problem arises there is a dual problem of throwing blood clot combined with low platelet count. What confuses me is that I think if low platelets when I person has an inability to clot? How can those two issues appear at the same time? TIA for any insights.0 -
Real-world study in Israel shows the South African variant “breaking through” the Pfizer vaccine.
https://apple.news/A94zwwPExRYGN24NZCZImzg
Important points:
* Research is not yet peer-reviewed
* Study involved 400 people
* The South African variant, B.1.351, was found to make up about 1% of all the COVID-19 cases across all the people studied, according to the study by Tel Aviv University and Israel’s largest healthcare provider, Clalit.
* But among patients who had received two doses of the vaccine, the variant’s prevalence rate was eight times higher than those unvaccinated - 5.4% versus 0.7%.
* The research was not intended to deduce overall vaccine effectiveness against any variant, since it only looked at people who had already tested positive for COVID-19, not at overall infection rates.
* Almost 53% of Israel’s 9.3 million population has received both Pfizer doses.
* Some previous studies have indicated that the Pfizer/BioNTech shot was less potent against the B.1.351 variant than against other variants of the coronavirus, but still offered a robust defence.4 -
No one wears masks in the hospitals anymore when we are not seeing patients. I still wear mine because I just feel wrong without wearing it and honestly it has become like a comfort thing for me. I also like how it protects against other illnesses. I haven't gotten a cold or the flu this year like I usually do! But all my coworkers who are doctors don't wear their masks at all. They are okay with doing this since the CDC says it is okay for people to meet with others who are vaccinated or even unvaccinated without masks now. Just noticed this trend the past few months of no mask wearing and wanted to share my observations.
I don't like that others tell me to take my mask off and judge me for still wearing one. Of course everyone wears masks when they are walking about the hospital and seeing patients, but once we go back to our team rooms, no one wears them.15 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »No one wears masks in the hospitals anymore when we are not seeing patients. I still wear mine because I just feel wrong without wearing it and honestly it has become like a comfort thing for me. I also like how it protects against other illnesses. I haven't gotten a cold or the flu this year like I usually do! But all my coworkers who are doctors don't wear their masks at all. They are okay with doing this since the CDC says it is okay for people to meet with others who are vaccinated or even unvaccinated without masks now. Just noticed this trend the past few months of no mask wearing and wanted to share my observations.
I don't like that others tell me to take my mask off and judge me for still wearing one. Of course everyone wears masks when they are walking about the hospital and seeing patients, but once we go back to our team rooms, no one wears them.
where are you that no one is wearing masks?? I'm in Ontario, Canada and we are under the strictest conditions since this thing began with no end in sight!
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »No one wears masks in the hospitals anymore when we are not seeing patients. I still wear mine because I just feel wrong without wearing it and honestly it has become like a comfort thing for me. I also like how it protects against other illnesses. I haven't gotten a cold or the flu this year like I usually do! But all my coworkers who are doctors don't wear their masks at all. They are okay with doing this since the CDC says it is okay for people to meet with others who are vaccinated or even unvaccinated without masks now. Just noticed this trend the past few months of no mask wearing and wanted to share my observations.
I don't like that others tell me to take my mask off and judge me for still wearing one. Of course everyone wears masks when they are walking about the hospital and seeing patients, but once we go back to our team rooms, no one wears them.
where are you that no one is wearing masks?? I'm in Ontario, Canada and we are under the strictest conditions since this thing began with no end in sight!
We do wear masks around the hospital and when with patients, its just in our team rooms (which is just the attendings and residents) that everyone takes them off. I am in NY. Numbers are going up, but I do not see the same level of panic as before when cases were rising. It feels very different. I just don't appreciate being judged for wanting to keep my mask on at all times even when 6 feet away in the team rooms. I know there is a very small chance I would contract the virus and/or spread it since I am fully vaccinated, but there is still that small chance. I hate feeling stupid for being overly safe.
People still wear masks here in stores though, I just have noticed everyone is way more relaxed (letting masks slide down, not really wearing them, having them hang off face, delivery people who bring my groceries not having them on, etc).15 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »No one wears masks in the hospitals anymore when we are not seeing patients. I still wear mine because I just feel wrong without wearing it and honestly it has become like a comfort thing for me. I also like how it protects against other illnesses. I haven't gotten a cold or the flu this year like I usually do! But all my coworkers who are doctors don't wear their masks at all. They are okay with doing this since the CDC says it is okay for people to meet with others who are vaccinated or even unvaccinated without masks now. Just noticed this trend the past few months of no mask wearing and wanted to share my observations.
I don't like that others tell me to take my mask off and judge me for still wearing one. Of course everyone wears masks when they are walking about the hospital and seeing patients, but once we go back to our team rooms, no one wears them.
I guess with everyone involved vaccinated the risk is so low that they deem it unnecessary. That's fine - but to judge you for wanting to wear one isn't. What does it matter to them if you wear one?
I no longer wear a mask when I visit my mother, she is fully vaccinated and I have my first shot. I wear it into the home and in public areas (required) but not when I am with her one on one in her room. She has a lot of trouble hearing/understanding me when I have the mask on and has asked me to take if off all along - so I do it now so she can actually see an unmasked face after all this time, and actually have a conversation with me. People will probably disagree with that but I really feel that the risk is negligible at this point. (I also get tested weekly.)14 -
I’m getting a late reaction to the vaccine. I had gotten the first shot (Moderna) a week before last Friday and had some swelling and soreness then, which lasted a couple of days. Then starting yesterday I felt swelling again, and now it’s warm, swollen, red and itching. I have heard that some people do have a delayed reaction.13
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »No one wears masks in the hospitals anymore when we are not seeing patients. I still wear mine because I just feel wrong without wearing it and honestly it has become like a comfort thing for me. I also like how it protects against other illnesses. I haven't gotten a cold or the flu this year like I usually do! But all my coworkers who are doctors don't wear their masks at all. They are okay with doing this since the CDC says it is okay for people to meet with others who are vaccinated or even unvaccinated without masks now. Just noticed this trend the past few months of no mask wearing and wanted to share my observations.
I don't like that others tell me to take my mask off and judge me for still wearing one. Of course everyone wears masks when they are walking about the hospital and seeing patients, but once we go back to our team rooms, no one wears them.
where are you that no one is wearing masks?? I'm in Ontario, Canada and we are under the strictest conditions since this thing began with no end in sight!
We do wear masks around the hospital and when with patients, its just in our team rooms (which is just the attendings and residents) that everyone takes them off. I am in NY. Numbers are going up, but I do not see the same level of panic as before when cases were rising. It feels very different. I just don't appreciate being judged for wanting to keep my mask on at all times even when 6 feet away in the team rooms. I know there is a very small chance I would contract the virus and/or spread it since I am fully vaccinated, but there is still that small chance. I hate feeling stupid for being overly safe.
People still wear masks here in stores though, I just have noticed everyone is way more relaxed (letting masks slide down, not really wearing them, having them hang off face, delivery people who bring my groceries not having them on, etc).
I am right there with you (in spirit 💖). Myself and my on-site staff are vaccinated. But most of our students aren’t. As well as our vendors, etc.
I am weary, too. As I think back over the past year, and how much our knowledge about the virus has evolved, I know there’s so much yet to be discovered, especially with the known variants, variants yet to come, and the vaccine efficacy against them and overall (long-term). Masking and physical distancing is still our best bet to stem community spread.
As the director of my unit, I’m very visible and recognizable on campus (even with few people here). And it’s my responsibility to set the examples regardless of how I feel. I don’t ever want to think I have acted in a way that passed the virus to someone when I could have made a different choice. Campus policies and procedures haven’t changed, either. And won’t, at least until the students have gone home for the summer.10 -
I’m getting a late reaction to the vaccine. I had gotten the first shot (Moderna) a week before last Friday and had some swelling and soreness then, which lasted a couple of days. Then starting yesterday I felt swelling again, and now it’s warm, swollen, red and itching. I have heard that some people do have a delayed reaction.
I had “Moderna Arm,” too. I used a little OTC hydrocortisone cream and it went away in a couple days. It was just a small patch on my upper arm, though nowhere near the injection site (I didn’t connect it to the vaccine at first). I didn’t have it after the second shot, only the first.
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looking to have someone explain how the following works.
i was listening to another of the John Campbell YouTubes an he was taking about the blood clot issues with the AstraZeneca vaccine. In it, he was mentioning that when the problem arises there is a dual problem of throwing blood clot combined with low platelet count. What confuses me is that I think if low platelets when I person has an inability to clot? How can those two issues appear at the same time? TIA for any insights.
Yes that would usually be so.
I'm not sure anyone knows how this syndrome works - the anomaly of dual low platelet count with clot formation.
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looking to have someone explain how the following works.
i was listening to another of the John Campbell YouTubes an he was taking about the blood clot issues with the AstraZeneca vaccine. In it, he was mentioning that when the problem arises there is a dual problem of throwing blood clot combined with low platelet count. What confuses me is that I think if low platelets when I person has an inability to clot? How can those two issues appear at the same time? TIA for any insights.
I think what happens is that in some people there is an unusual immune response that produces anti-bodies that react with platelets, causing them to "stick together", which leads to diffuse clots, which then reduces the circulating platelet count. So you have multiple clots as well as thrombocytopenia (low platelets). That is how I am understanding it anyway.4 -
Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html3
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looking to have someone explain how the following works.
i was listening to another of the John Campbell YouTubes an he was taking about the blood clot issues with the AstraZeneca vaccine. In it, he was mentioning that when the problem arises there is a dual problem of throwing blood clot combined with low platelet count. What confuses me is that I think if low platelets when I person has an inability to clot? How can those two issues appear at the same time? TIA for any insights.
I think what happens is that in some people there is an unusual immune response that produces anti-bodies that react with platelets, causing them to "stick together", which leads to diffuse clots, which then reduces the circulating platelet count. So you have multiple clots as well as thrombocytopenia (low platelets). That is how I am understanding it anyway.
Thank you Gail. That explanation makes complete sense!
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »Things are not so bad here in Australia that we need to be using all sorts of other venues that are not usually used for medical reasons to be used for now at least. We do have some drive in testing sites just to get lots of people checked but if I'm getting a vaccine I'd rather it in a hospital or medical practice since I have allergies. We keep hitting Covid on the head very fast. Brisbane only had to be locked down for 3 days when the last cases were around. Almost everyone I see is doing the right things with masks etc. We have fantastic people tracing it on the rare time it's in the community.
In the US the large venues are used to get the most shots in arms as soon as possible. In our smaller city there is an arena being used (large enough to hold 10,000 people. There is plenty of parking. You check in at socially distanced stations in the large, open, lobby area then proceed to the arena floor (size of a hockey rink) where you get directed to one of 30 tables where you get your shot (they are processing 500+ people an hour). After your shot there is another area where you are asked to wait for 15 minutes to make sure no reaction. There are medical professionals available in case there are any issues.
This type of process is much more efficient both in terms of getting the shot to people and doing it in socially distancing manner than having people go to a hospital or medical office and weave though narrow halls around the regular patients of the facility. Now if someone has allergies they can go to their doctor and get a shot if they're worried about it, but the mass vaccination sites are much more efficient for most people.
Yes, I got my shot at a CVS and our post-shot waiting area was just an aisle where other people could and were shopping. I drove my brother to get his shot at a different CVS and we did his post-shot waiting outside.
Getting my second (Pfizer) shot Wednesday!6 -
Our Kroger has taken down all their mask required signs at the doors. The state wide mandate ended Monday and people are taking advantage of it. I will still wear a mask until I have had both shots.
Shot 1 is tomorrow morning so we shall see how it goes
Must be nice - we are in a modified "lockdown" and today they are going to announce a month long stay at home order.
(When I say "must be nice' I mean it would be nice to live in a jurisdiction where things getting back to "normal" was actually in sight.)
It may be less a case of things are getting back to normal due to science / actual risk and more a case of politics.
@Athijade: where do you live?3 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Our Kroger has taken down all their mask required signs at the doors. The state wide mandate ended Monday and people are taking advantage of it. I will still wear a mask until I have had both shots.
Shot 1 is tomorrow morning so we shall see how it goes
Must be nice - we are in a modified "lockdown" and today they are going to announce a month long stay at home order.
(When I say "must be nice' I mean it would be nice to live in a jurisdiction where things getting back to "normal" was actually in sight.)
It may be less a case of things are getting back to normal due to science / actual risk and more a case of politics.
@Athijade: where do you live?
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MikePfirrman wrote: »Just popping in with my daily dose of cheery news ... About COVID sufferers suffering from brain disorders after recovery. 😞https://abc7.com/health/1-in-3-covid-19-survivors-suffers-brain-disease-study-finds/10494640/
I've read about that. It seems there is an inflammation in the spinal fluid that is causing it. I believe they found C Reactive protein in areas of the brain that it shouldn't exist. Though, the belief is, over time, it will settle down. I think they believe that antivirals will help over time.
There is a bright side to this. It's my personal opinion that a lot of illnesses have latent viruses behind them -- Fibromyalgia, Lupus, certain cancers, Lyme Disease, possibly Chronic Fatigue. I think in better understanding the source of these stealth viruses that don't go completely away and spending money on them will possibly help many more conditions than just Covid-19 long haulers. The long haulers are very similar to other conditions, it's just brought more attention to it, IMHO.
Edit -- it seems the scientific community is torn on if there might be a viral infection of the brain versus Autoimmune Encephilitis (inflammation of the brain caused by antibodies, but not a viral infection, where basically the body attacks the brain, like in other organ related autoimmune conditions).
My understanding is that Lyme disease is caused by the the bacteriums Borrelia burgdorferi and Borrelia mayonii but I would be delighted if something about this pandemic helped with Lyme disease treatment or prevention.
I was just at Urgent Care last week getting an imbedded tick removed. The doctor and nurse thought a tick bite was a big deal, which I thought was funny, as I have literally had dozens and dozens of tick bites over the years as I live in Massachusetts and spend a lot of time in the woods and fields, and tick mitigation is a normal part of my life this time of year.
I also knew my tick was not the blacklegged tick, which is the one far more likely to carry the disease, and that it had not been attached for very long. (The risk is lower if the tick has been attached for less than 36 hours.) (I don't believe I've ever been bitten by the blacklegged tick - these are much smaller than our usual ticks. I still take mitigation very seriously.)
But it was funny the way the doctor and nurse thought a tick bite was so unusual. The doctor needed to make sure I was wearing clothes out in the woods LMAO!
I've been stung by scorpions and bitten by a brown recluse spider - THAT was a big deal.
ps - I feel the need to clarify in advance, yes LYME disease is a big deal. But getting bitten by ticks that do not carry it is not.2
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