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What are your thoughts on Keto?
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I tried it for a time after watching several coworkers have success with it. For me, it was totally not worth it. I, for whatever reason, did not find that it was helpful in managing my appetite at all and I would be well over my allotted calories for the day REALLY quickly, but was still feeling hungry.4
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If keto is a way you enjoy eating and it helps you stay on plan in a sustainable way, great. But is has no metabolic advantage over any other form of calorie restriction if protein and calories and the same.
One benefit that some report is that it blunts hunger and cravings and that can be a real help if someone struggles with those. Personally, I found it too restrictive for me. But I have found eating lower carb, 100 to 150 grams per day, helps with hunger signalling and makes it easier to stay on plan for me. Others have reported the same experiences. YMMV5 -
Love hearing people’s opinions and experience with different life style changes! Let me know what you think of keto and if it was beneficial for your life!
When I was 200+ lbs and borderline diabetic it was the only diet that balanced my hormones enough to allow me to lose weight. I was actually put on it by a Doctor who said this isn't for life, but just to heal my body to the point that I could get to a healthy weight *eventually* and introduce back other foods. It wasn't used for weight loss in my situation.
It worked amazingly for that reason. I am no longer keto, but my blood sugars are self regulating now and so are many of my other hormones that were totally out of whack when I was much more obese.
ETA: I'm still obese, so it's clearly not the extra fat alone that was affecting my hormones, myriad of vitamin and mineral deficiencies, and inability to lose weight.2 -
The keto diet is a pretty extreme kind of diet. Refusal of carbohydrates threatens with breakdowns on unhealthy diet, headaches, weakness, chills. When switching to a keto diet suddenly, you can expect an exacerbation of pancreatitis and other health problems. A doctor's consultation is required. You can also use an app for keto diet. The main advantage of such a diet is that the lost weight will not return, since there is no sharp change in nutrition and artificial reduction of calories. However, due to a large number of proteins and fats in the diet, don't expect fast weight loss per week.0
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Irene89DtDowd wrote: »The keto diet is a pretty extreme kind of diet. Refusal of carbohydrates threatens with breakdowns on unhealthy diet, headaches, weakness, chills. When switching to a keto diet suddenly, you can expect an exacerbation of pancreatitis and other health problems. A doctor's consultation is required. You can also use an app for keto diet. The main advantage of such a diet is that the lost weight will not return, since there is no sharp change in nutrition and artificial reduction of calories. However, due to a large number of proteins and fats in the diet, don't expect fast weight loss per week.
I'm not a fan of keto and keto flu is a thing.
I don't think an exacerbation of pancreatitis is likely though.
And the lost weight will return, if you eat more calories than you need to maintain - just like they would with any other eating style.5 -
Fats are not satiating to me and I’m mostly plant based and eat a lot of fruit so it would never work for me.0
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Irene89DtDowd wrote: »The main advantage of such a diet is that the lost weight will not return, since there is no sharp change in nutrition and artificial reduction of calories.
What?!?!4 -
Irene89DtDowd wrote: »The keto diet is a pretty extreme kind of diet. Refusal of carbohydrates threatens with breakdowns on unhealthy diet, headaches, weakness, chills. When switching to a keto diet suddenly, you can expect an exacerbation of pancreatitis and other health problems. A doctor's consultation is required. You can also use an app for keto diet. The main advantage of such a diet is that the lost weight will not return, since there is no sharp change in nutrition and artificial reduction of calories. However, due to a large number of proteins and fats in the diet, don't expect fast weight loss per week.
Another WUT???? Macro breakdown doesn't determine how fast you lose - total calorie deficit determines how fast you lose.5 -
Irene89DtDowd wrote: »The keto diet is a pretty extreme kind of diet. Refusal of carbohydrates threatens with breakdowns on unhealthy diet, headaches, weakness, chills. When switching to a keto diet suddenly, you can expect an exacerbation of pancreatitis and other health problems. A doctor's consultation is required. You can also use an app for keto diet. The main advantage of such a diet is that the lost weight will not return, since there is no sharp change in nutrition and artificial reduction of calories. However, due to a large number of proteins and fats in the diet, don't expect fast weight loss per week.
Who says there's a sharp change in nutrition or a different "artificial" reduction in calories when non-keto?
Signed, year 5+ at a healthy weight (after 30+ years of obesity before that), now eating 250g or so of carbs daily, plus plenty of protein and healthy fats.
P.S. The whole quoted post is full of misconceptions, from misunderstanding of electrolyte issues in keto, to the idea that your average doc can relate to keto, to the idea that weight loss is magically permanent, to the idea that keto loss is necessarily slow.
Keto helps some people, isn't universally necessary.5 -
digestibleplastic wrote: »Love hearing people’s opinions and experience with different life style changes! Let me know what you think of keto and if it was beneficial for your life!
When I was 200+ lbs and borderline diabetic it was the only diet that balanced my hormones enough to allow me to lose weight. I was actually put on it by a Doctor who said this isn't for life, but just to heal my body to the point that I could get to a healthy weight *eventually* and introduce back other foods. It wasn't used for weight loss in my situation.
It worked amazingly for that reason. I am no longer keto, but my blood sugars are self regulating now and so are many of my other hormones that were totally out of whack when I was much more obese.
ETA: I'm still obese, so it's clearly not the extra fat alone that was affecting my hormones, myriad of vitamin and mineral deficiencies, and inability to lose weight.
I am glad to hear of your health gains. When I cut out added sugars and grains my 40 years of life controlling IBS resolved after several months and 7 years later has never returned. While I still don't use added sweeteners and still watch the grains I eat well over 50 grams of carbs daily due my focus on healthy gut microbiome. They need good fiber to eat to provide me with a strong immune system.0 -
Was keto for 8 months, worked out on regular basis-. Total of 5 pound loss, highest cholesterol I’ve e we had, constant digestive issues, heartburn, fatigue, etc…etc..
I’ll be celebrating my 1 year vegetarian/dairy-free anniversary July 14th, work out on regular basis, but less than I did on keto 19.5 pounds down, energetic, clear skin, perfect cholesterol/labs.
Keto was just an excuse to stuff myself with high fat meat/cheese. I felt like complete sh** entire time no thank you- never again,4 -
I think it would be absolutely and entirely unsustainable for me.
I like carbs.
It's just really that simple.0 -
I was once on a strict keto diet.
.... for about 12 minutes.
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If you are overweight, obese, or T2D cutting carbs and fasting is your treatment.
Keto is the most extreme way to cut carbs. Intermittant and 24-72 hr water fasting give your fatty liver and pancreas time to repair and heal.
ALL overweight, obese, and T2D people have fatty liver which is the cause of insulin resistance. It's a simple process:
years of excess carbs -> high basal insulin and spikes -> obesity -> fatty liver -> ever increasing insulin resistance -> T2D -> strokes, heart attacks, blindness, kidney failure, dementia, amputations, ED, cancer, etc -> early death
The problem with keto is that it's very limiting and boring. Plus, carbs are delicious. I prefer to follow these guidlines:
Phase 1 (Induction). This phase allows for 20–25 grams of net carbs per day until you are 15 pounds (7 kg) from your goal weight.
Phase 2. During this phase, you consume 25–50 grams of net carbs per day until you are 10 pounds (5 kg) from your goal weight.
Phase 3. Your net carb allowance is raised to 50–80 grams per day until you have met your goal weight and maintained it for 1 month.
Phase 4. During the final phase, you consume 80–100 grams of net carbs per day for ongoing weight maintenance.
For T2Ds I recommend "eating to your glucometer".
Thanks for your simple and straight forward informational Keto post.
Like many I failed to understand my controlling attachment to sugar wasn't a weakness of my mind but it came from some of my then gut microbiome communicating with my brain by way of my Vagus nerve dictating their cavings.
I was to start on Enbrel injections in 90 days for pain management. The associated cancer risk was something I was not willing to accept easily. I had a very strong hunch by cutting out sugar and all forms of all grains that I could dodge the Enbrel injection bullet.
After 60 days I was still stopping by Dairy Queen for my banana split.0 -
Motorsheen wrote: »I was once on a strict keto diet.
.... for about 12 minutes.
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You needed about 2 more minutes, honest.3 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »If you are overweight, obese, or T2D cutting carbs and fasting is your treatment.
Keto is the most extreme way to cut carbs. Intermittant and 24-72 hr water fasting give your fatty liver and pancreas time to repair and heal.
ALL overweight, obese, and T2D people have fatty liver which is the cause of insulin resistance. It's a simple process:
years of excess carbs -> high basal insulin and spikes -> obesity -> fatty liver -> ever increasing insulin resistance -> T2D -> strokes, heart attacks, blindness, kidney failure, dementia, amputations, ED, cancer, etc -> early death
The problem with keto is that it's very limiting and boring. Plus, carbs are delicious. I prefer to follow these guidlines:
Phase 1 (Induction). This phase allows for 20–25 grams of net carbs per day until you are 15 pounds (7 kg) from your goal weight.
Phase 2. During this phase, you consume 25–50 grams of net carbs per day until you are 10 pounds (5 kg) from your goal weight.
Phase 3. Your net carb allowance is raised to 50–80 grams per day until you have met your goal weight and maintained it for 1 month.
Phase 4. During the final phase, you consume 80–100 grams of net carbs per day for ongoing weight maintenance.
For T2Ds I recommend "eating to your glucometer".
Thanks for your simple and straight forward informational Keto post.
Like many I failed to understand my controlling attachment to sugar wasn't a weakness of my mind but it came from some of my then gut microbiome communicating with my brain by way of my Vagus nerve dictating their cavings.
I was to start on Enbrel injections in 90 days for pain management. The associated cancer risk was something I was not willing to accept easily. I had a very strong hunch by cutting out sugar and all forms of all grains that I could dodge the Enbrel injection bullet.
After 60 days I was still stopping by Dairy Queen for my banana split.
I was down to 30 days when I put my left brain in charge and cold turkey stopped eating foods containing added sugars and any form of any grains. I held my carbs down to 50 grams daily but my calories remained around 3000 since weight loss was NOT an objective.
Going keto was not on my mind. I was trying to slow a hard and premature death.
Yes in the first 2 weeks I thought I was going to die. That was when I learned about my microbes that were causing my sugar cravings were dying off. In 30 Days my pain was dropping like a rock so I told the doctors no to Enbrel injections and to manage my pain with food choices. That decision accidentally put me in nutritional ketosis.
I cut out sugar and grains 1 October 2014. While I did not lose or gain weight in the month but started to loose my fat face and one inch in the waist. A few months in I realized my 40 years of life defining IBS had resolved. 7 years later it has not returned even for one day.
I ate keto for about 5 years which was more plant based than my former SAD way of eating. When I added more veggies and fruits that knocked me out of nutritional ketosis. Now that my pain has been well managed for years I eat to improve the health of my gut microbiome. For 50 years my health concern has to do with my Ankylosing Spondylitis.2 -
It's all about calorie reduction for me. I do use some Keto products and recipes because I find them to be satiating for their calorie counts.2
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