Coronavirus prep
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With how fast Omicron spreads, I honestly believe it is just a matter of time that you will get it if you have any contact with another human being. The rate of spread is just so so high.2
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Something new has hit our communities. We're inundated with tourists 24/7 throughout the year. It used to be a seasonal thing but we're overwhelmed with people moving in from all over the world. They're testing these people but docs can't put their finger on it yet. It's causing massive amounts of vertigo, nonstop emesis. They can't stand up and their heads feel like they have a 50 lb bowling ball sitting on top of their shoulders. They can't go to the bathroom by themselves and it's dropping them to their knees.
EMT's hauled my neighbor away on Christmas Day. They called me today, saying they've never felt so close to death in their entire lifetime. An athlete that hikes and climbs mountains, taking excellent care of their health. Still in hospital.
It's hitting the docs as well as the locals. One specialist said he's never called in sick but this hit him like a brick. They're running blood tests with no definitive answers. It's not norovirus. Anyone out there with a similar situation?
They all flew in here for Christmas and they'll be loading up and getting back on those planes. A super spreader.
I'm not prognosticating but what do you think about this.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crim/2021/9967555/
Is this another variation on a theme.0 -
Washboard12 wrote: »Something new has hit our communities. We're inundated with tourists 24/7 throughout the year. It used to be a seasonal thing but we're overwhelmed with people moving in from all over the world. They're testing these people but docs can't put their finger on it yet. It's causing massive amounts of vertigo, nonstop emesis. They can't stand up and their heads feel like they have a 50 lb bowling ball sitting on top of their shoulders. They can't go to the bathroom by themselves and it's dropping them to their knees.
EMT's hauled my neighbor away on Christmas Day. They called me today, saying they've never felt so close to death in their entire lifetime. An athlete that hikes and climbs mountains, taking excellent care of their health. Still in hospital.
It's hitting the docs as well as the locals. One specialist said he's never called in sick but this hit him like a brick. They're running blood tests with no definitive answers. It's not norovirus. Anyone out there with a similar situation?
They all flew in here for Christmas and they'll be loading up and getting back on those planes. A super spreader.
I'm not prognosticating but what do you think about this.https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crim/2021/9967555/
Is this another variation on a theme.
Well my husband has Covid and he is experiencing vertigo today, and my daughter also has it, and got dizzy and fell down the stairs this morning. No vomiting though.
It's weird to me that I had high risk exposures last Thursday and Saturday, husband and I had dinner/games night with daughter and her boyfriend. Three out of four of us (all vaxxed) tested positive Tuesday and are symptomatic, but despite that and me living with my husband I continue to feel fine and test negative. Maybe my booster shot kicked in faster than his - idk.6 -
Whoa Nelly. Thank you, 33gail33.
Criminelly, I traveled from door-to-door handing out baked goods to all the neighbors. I blew kisses at all of them.0 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »Son out of state was 7 hours into 15 hour drive back here for Christmas. Got at call from a friend that tested positive. He stopped and got a home test, showed up positive. Turned around and went back. Day later his fiancée is feeling sick.
Daughter had to leave work last night sick (don't know if Covid yet). Not making the 3 hour trip here.
First time haven't gotten to celebrate Christmas with the kids. I know many have it a lot worse but still a milestone you don't like.
Stay safe out there.
This is the second year for us. Last year we were locked down, and given it was pre-vaccine and I was worried about hospital capacity if we got it we cancelled and did virtual.
This year we were going to do a small gathering of just 8 of us immediate family, but 3 of 8 got sick and tested positive on the 21st, so that got cancelled. More disappointing this year than last for me, because last year it seemed to be a one time thing and now it just seems never ending. Couldn't even visit my 87 year old mother this year because I am in isolation as a contact, and I'm not sure she really understands why.
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »
This is so true. Just the tip of the iceberg. I too tested positive (and so did my youngest). I suspect others in the family had it before us but by the time we realized it they had tested negative. Thank God...I was vaccinated. I still have a slight cough but I think now it is just a cold. I did have two negative tests (one PCR). Why on earth anyone would not want to get vaccinated is just beyond me. I have an 86 year old friend who is home bound and relies on health care (state aid) to come in daily to help her. None of them are vaccinated!!Covid finally hit us, husband has it. Got our boosters on the 15th so hopefully remains mild. I am negative thus far. Daughter tested positive last night but no symptoms.
I would say to disregard the "official" Covid numbers at this point, it's probably the tip of the iceberg. We only know they are positive because I bought some rapid tests last week (they are sold out now) and we can't get a PCR test until Jan 2 because of high demand. So our cases won't be included in the tally, and I imagine there are others in the same boat.
It breaks my heart that health care workers knowingly endanger vulnerable people like your 86 year old friend. Why are they even in health care professions if they disregard health science and don't care?
Does the employer not have a vaccine requirement for their health employees?
No. They can barely find any employees to work as it is. Very sad. One of my friends health care workers who is not vaccinated even lost 3 family members due to covid. I just don't get it.
I dont get it either.
Here in Aus, people working in Aged care and Health care have to be vaccinated - it isnt up to each employer it is government directive
but hard to discuss further without getting into politics.
A big part of the problem here is an overall labor shortage, especially in relatively low-paying jobs such as elderly care.
There are many reasons for the shortage, from older workers deciding to retire, to younger workers deciding to peruse higher-paying and lower-risk jobs, among other factors.
Despite federal mandates for employers to require vaccinations or regular testing, many employers are afraid to lose workers when they are already short-staffed. So, they are simply not complying with the directive or bringing court challenges to make their case.
What does the labor market look like in Australia right now? Do elderly care workers make a decent wage? Are there staffing shortages?
Some areas of health care and Aged care in particular are short staffed here too.
You get reasonable pay and secure employment but certainly not a high paying job.
However govt mandates about vaccination are not optional and no health care providers would not enforce it or challenge in court.
I imagine their employees and family members would be up in arms if they did - you would lose accreditation, funding etc as well as be heavily fined.3 -
Washboard12 wrote: »Something new has hit our communities. We're inundated with tourists 24/7 throughout the year. It used to be a seasonal thing but we're overwhelmed with people moving in from all over the world. They're testing these people but docs can't put their finger on it yet. It's causing massive amounts of vertigo, nonstop emesis. They can't stand up and their heads feel like they have a 50 lb bowling ball sitting on top of their shoulders. They can't go to the bathroom by themselves and it's dropping them to their knees.
EMT's hauled my neighbor away on Christmas Day. They called me today, saying they've never felt so close to death in their entire lifetime. An athlete that hikes and climbs mountains, taking excellent care of their health. Still in hospital.
It's hitting the docs as well as the locals. One specialist said he's never called in sick but this hit him like a brick. They're running blood tests with no definitive answers. It's not norovirus. Anyone out there with a similar situation?
They all flew in here for Christmas and they'll be loading up and getting back on those planes. A super spreader.
I'm not prognosticating but what do you think about this.https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crim/2021/9967555/
Is this another variation on a theme.
BPPV as a side effect doesn't seem all that surprising to me, given the other symptoms of Covid, and given that BPPV is really quite common, at varying levels of severity.
(I have BPPV, comes and goes, never had Covid - certainly not before I got BPPV. Multiple people I know have or had BPPV, again pre-Covid. I'm not saying it's not Covid-associated in these or other cases, just that it's quite common as a thing to have for various reasons.)
Also, in both the cases in the article, the symptoms resolved after one or two sessions of Epley maneuver, which is a very minimally intrusive intervention.
This specific thing doesn't seem like a big deal to me, compared with other symptoms of Covid, and/or long-haul Covid, that are more mysterious, less treatable.
BPPV's unpleasant while it lasts, though - and potentially dangerous, if falls result.3 -
@AnnPT77 This is definitely where the rubber meets the road. If you have anyone who gives even two horsesheets about you and vice versa...you'd best be telling them that today. I've lost so many family members that I have no problem telling anyone how much they mean to me.
I couldn't believe that my neighbor called me from the hospital while feeling so poorly. I get it. It's Christmas and tis the reason for the season. Take no one for granted. Seek out and value all kindnesses that are sent your way.4 -
Washboard - where do you live?2
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Aaaand now my brother, who was at our family party yesterday, tested positive today.
He took a quick test before coming over yesterday, and it was negative.
He woke up with a sore throat this morning, so took another test, and it was positive.
Oh crap. Hope he didn't infect anyone else.
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I’ve just had this arrive for me. I’m in the uk and take daily immunosuppressants. The idea is that if I get symptoms and subsequently test positive there’s treatments available to me that could aid me faster and keep me out of hospital, it has a barcode linked to my nhs number that will alert a dr to contact me within 24 hrs of a positive result. Fingers crossed I don’t need it but it’s quite reassuring to have it.12 -
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SummerSkier wrote: »It's incredible to me how many people or their friends or family are testing positive over the past week that I know! It's like a whole new way of looking at the pandemic with these self tests. Are they accurate? Dunno.
But maybe the way we finally get out of this do loop mess pandemic is the ease and convenience of self tests and people doing the responsible thing. Everywhere I look I saw Xmas plans being changed due to either contact tracing or positive tests.
In my opinion we also need to stop considering ourselves safe to gather or not mask just because we are vaccinated or boosted. We need a paradyme shift away from that false security. Many people I know including here did testing regardless of vax status before gathering.
But the "science" says it's safe for small gatherings without masks for vaxed individuals.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211223/fauci-large-gatherings-unsafe
Not starting an argument, but we're encouraged to "follow the science", obviously people can choose to do what they want regarding small gatherings and the guidance.1 -
Can't remember what I have share (and not) or when. Anyhow, today, the 27th is the first morning with zero sore throat since Dec 11th. Have had 3 negative COVID tests and of the 8 family members that got this cold, everyone who has tested has tested negative (4 out of 8, three of which were the sickest including me). This cold was the cold from H*ll and finished off with an ear infection (husband - eye infection, daughter - pneumonia). With that in mind, my parents almost 85 and 87 were on the fence about the family meal on xmas day. Then, my sister found out 11 year old daughter may have been exposed in school on Monday. Parents backed out. The rest of us went forward with us home testing on Xmas morning before all meeting up.
Flash forward. My children and families were coming early to open presents in the morning. Get 9 am call. Daughter, et all, were in a 10 car crash due to freezing rain on an untreated winding steep hill. Thankfully, all the humans were fine, unlike the car that did its job by being destroyed while protecting the contents. My DH takes off in the car to help. The family was traveling in their pajamas for the fun morning with my <2 grandson and it is 30 degrees and freezing rain. Some lovely family took them in while the police dealt with the crash. They were given a warm home and hot tea. I am so thankful to this family for opening their home on xmas morning to provide aid to strangers, especially in these crazy times. With my husband's help, 3 hours later they were able to join us, 10 of us in total all tested for COVID.
Back to the topic of COVID celebrations. Our neighbor in our townhouse cluster celebrated xmas eve, but all in the garage (remember it is +/- 30 degrees out). Nice and fiancee in California are COVID positive. Nephew in the anti-vaxer part of the family has an enlarged heart, potentially from the J&J vaccine. Hubby is trying to fly back to Florida next weekend to see his mom. I hope their is still a flight and he does not get sick....... I have lots of home test kits. I am making sure I have easy access.
Oh, I should share that I went shopping for spare kits (had already used the kit I already had in home and was negative) during the stretch were I had zero voice from the cold from h*ll. Picture the face of the Walgreens cashier as I pointed to my throat, unable to make a sound, and held up a note to her asking for "BinaxNow COVID test kit". I was sold two kits very quickly.
Stay healthy all. I need a better 2022. I am ready for 2021 to be over!10 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Aaaand now my brother, who was at our family party yesterday, tested positive today.
He took a quick test before coming over yesterday, and it was negative.
He woke up with a sore throat this morning, so took another test, and it was positive.
Oh crap. Hope he didn't infect anyone else.
Were there any high-risk family members there?
No one who is immune-compromised, but several higher-risk just due to age and/or weight. My parents, uncle, and godmother are all in their mid-70s, and my uncle is obese.
They are vaxed and boosted, and relatively healthy, so hopefully should be okay if they do get infected. We are testing and monitoring and hoping for the best.5 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »
Agree - here (Canada) the best we can do now is try to hold it off until everyone who wants one can get their booster to give the best chance of keeping it mild. Our boosters were available much later than the US.1 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »It's incredible to me how many people or their friends or family are testing positive over the past week that I know! It's like a whole new way of looking at the pandemic with these self tests. Are they accurate? Dunno.
But maybe the way we finally get out of this do loop mess pandemic is the ease and convenience of self tests and people doing the responsible thing. Everywhere I look I saw Xmas plans being changed due to either contact tracing or positive tests.
In my opinion we also need to stop considering ourselves safe to gather or not mask just because we are vaccinated or boosted. We need a paradyme shift away from that false security. Many people I know including here did testing regardless of vax status before gathering.
But the "science" says it's safe for small gatherings without masks for vaxed individuals.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211223/fauci-large-gatherings-unsafe
Not starting an argument, but we're encouraged to "follow the science", obviously people can choose to do what they want regarding small gatherings and the guidance.
It does sound like there is a proviso though...what is extra level of protection...testing that is referred to? Is this the rapid antigen testing?
“The answer to that is: Yes. An extra level of protection would be the testing that Dr. Walensky mentioned,” said Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases."1 -
Can't remember what I have share (and not) or when. Anyhow, today, the 27th is the first morning with zero sore throat since Dec 11th. Have had 3 negative COVID tests and of the 8 family members that got this cold, everyone who has tested has tested negative (4 out of 8, three of which were the sickest including me). This cold was the cold from H*ll and finished off with an ear infection (husband - eye infection, daughter - pneumonia). With that in mind, my parents almost 85 and 87 were on the fence about the family meal on xmas day. Then, my sister found out 11 year old daughter may have been exposed in school on Monday. Parents backed out. The rest of us went forward with us home testing on Xmas morning before all meeting up.
Flash forward. My children and families were coming early to open presents in the morning. Get 9 am call. Daughter, et all, were in a 10 car crash due to freezing rain on an untreated winding steep hill. Thankfully, all the humans were fine, unlike the car that did its job by being destroyed while protecting the contents. My DH takes off in the car to help. The family was traveling in their pajamas for the fun morning with my <2 grandson and it is 30 degrees and freezing rain. Some lovely family took them in while the police dealt with the crash. They were given a warm home and hot tea. I am so thankful to this family for opening their home on xmas morning to provide aid to strangers, especially in these crazy times. With my husband's help, 3 hours later they were able to join us, 10 of us in total all tested for COVID.
Back to the topic of COVID celebrations. Our neighbor in our townhouse cluster celebrated xmas eve, but all in the garage (remember it is +/- 30 degrees out). Nice and fiancee in California are COVID positive. Nephew in the anti-vaxer part of the family has an enlarged heart, potentially from the J&J vaccine. Hubby is trying to fly back to Florida next weekend to see his mom. I hope their is still a flight and he does not get sick....... I have lots of home test kits. I am making sure I have easy access.
Oh, I should share that I went shopping for spare kits (had already used the kit I already had in home and was negative) during the stretch were I had zero voice from the cold from h*ll. Picture the face of the Walgreens cashier as I pointed to my throat, unable to make a sound, and held up a note to her asking for "BinaxNow COVID test kit". I was sold two kits very quickly.
Stay healthy all. I need a better 2022. I am ready for 2021 to be over!
Goodness, you had an exciting Christmas! Glad everyone is okay and hope no one caught anything from the kindly family. I’m ready for this to be over too! I just want to be around people without fear again.
My husband and I both have the cold from hell and have repeatedly tested negative. Mine so far is in my nose and throat while his became a nasty chest cold. I’m wondering if this is the scenario we have been hearing warnings about - last year people avoided a lot of infections due to social distancing, so our immune systems are playing catch up right now.3 -
rheddmobile wrote: »Can't remember what I have share (and not) or when. Anyhow, today, the 27th is the first morning with zero sore throat since Dec 11th. Have had 3 negative COVID tests and of the 8 family members that got this cold, everyone who has tested has tested negative (4 out of 8, three of which were the sickest including me). This cold was the cold from H*ll and finished off with an ear infection (husband - eye infection, daughter - pneumonia). With that in mind, my parents almost 85 and 87 were on the fence about the family meal on xmas day. Then, my sister found out 11 year old daughter may have been exposed in school on Monday. Parents backed out. The rest of us went forward with us home testing on Xmas morning before all meeting up.
Flash forward. My children and families were coming early to open presents in the morning. Get 9 am call. Daughter, et all, were in a 10 car crash due to freezing rain on an untreated winding steep hill. Thankfully, all the humans were fine, unlike the car that did its job by being destroyed while protecting the contents. My DH takes off in the car to help. The family was traveling in their pajamas for the fun morning with my <2 grandson and it is 30 degrees and freezing rain. Some lovely family took them in while the police dealt with the crash. They were given a warm home and hot tea. I am so thankful to this family for opening their home on xmas morning to provide aid to strangers, especially in these crazy times. With my husband's help, 3 hours later they were able to join us, 10 of us in total all tested for COVID.
Back to the topic of COVID celebrations. Our neighbor in our townhouse cluster celebrated xmas eve, but all in the garage (remember it is +/- 30 degrees out). Nice and fiancee in California are COVID positive. Nephew in the anti-vaxer part of the family has an enlarged heart, potentially from the J&J vaccine. Hubby is trying to fly back to Florida next weekend to see his mom. I hope their is still a flight and he does not get sick....... I have lots of home test kits. I am making sure I have easy access.
Oh, I should share that I went shopping for spare kits (had already used the kit I already had in home and was negative) during the stretch were I had zero voice from the cold from h*ll. Picture the face of the Walgreens cashier as I pointed to my throat, unable to make a sound, and held up a note to her asking for "BinaxNow COVID test kit". I was sold two kits very quickly.
Stay healthy all. I need a better 2022. I am ready for 2021 to be over!
Goodness, you had an exciting Christmas! Glad everyone is okay and hope no one caught anything from the kindly family. I’m ready for this to be over too! I just want to be around people without fear again.
My husband and I both have the cold from hell and have repeatedly tested negative. Mine so far is in my nose and throat while his became a nasty chest cold. I’m wondering if this is the scenario we have been hearing warnings about - last year people avoided a lot of infections due to social distancing, so our immune systems are playing catch up right now.
For our family "cold", it was initially sore throat and coughing and congestion for most. DD and DH had fevers, while I never did. They also had more coughing (lung involvedment) than I ever did, but neither of them got the laryngitis that I got. For each of us three, DD pneumonia diagnosis was about day 8, DH eye infection day 7, and ear infection diagnosis was day 12. Today is my first day 100% symptom free, day 16. For the 5 others, it was lesser symptoms and shorter lived. I have personally done 3 negative tests. @rheddmobile I hope that you and your husband are well soon. Keep an eye out for secondary infections like the three of us got. I also wonder if we are all playing catch up. I had not been sick even once since COVID.5 -
Can't remember what I have share (and not) or when. Anyhow, today, the 27th is the first morning with zero sore throat since Dec 11th. Have had 3 negative COVID tests and of the 8 family members that got this cold, everyone who has tested has tested negative (4 out of 8, three of which were the sickest including me). This cold was the cold from H*ll and finished off with an ear infection (husband - eye infection, daughter - pneumonia). With that in mind, my parents almost 85 and 87 were on the fence about the family meal on xmas day. Then, my sister found out 11 year old daughter may have been exposed in school on Monday. Parents backed out. The rest of us went forward with us home testing on Xmas morning before all meeting up.
Flash forward. My children and families were coming early to open presents in the morning. Get 9 am call. Daughter, et all, were in a 10 car crash due to freezing rain on an untreated winding steep hill. Thankfully, all the humans were fine, unlike the car that did its job by being destroyed while protecting the contents. My DH takes off in the car to help. The family was traveling in their pajamas for the fun morning with my <2 grandson and it is 30 degrees and freezing rain. Some lovely family took them in while the police dealt with the crash. They were given a warm home and hot tea. I am so thankful to this family for opening their home on xmas morning to provide aid to strangers, especially in these crazy times. With my husband's help, 3 hours later they were able to join us, 10 of us in total all tested for COVID.
Back to the topic of COVID celebrations. Our neighbor in our townhouse cluster celebrated xmas eve, but all in the garage (remember it is +/- 30 degrees out). Nice and fiancee in California are COVID positive. Nephew in the anti-vaxer part of the family has an enlarged heart, potentially from the J&J vaccine. Hubby is trying to fly back to Florida next weekend to see his mom. I hope their is still a flight and he does not get sick....... I have lots of home test kits. I am making sure I have easy access.
Oh, I should share that I went shopping for spare kits (had already used the kit I already had in home and was negative) during the stretch were I had zero voice from the cold from h*ll. Picture the face of the Walgreens cashier as I pointed to my throat, unable to make a sound, and held up a note to her asking for "BinaxNow COVID test kit". I was sold two kits very quickly.
Stay healthy all. I need a better 2022. I am ready for 2021 to be over!
I'm in Italy and also got this cold at the beginning of Dec. It lasted 2 weeks and I have never coughed so much (day and night) in my life. I was cold for several days and walked around in a blanket--when I wasn't in bed. So tired. The phelgm just kept coming and it was a pudding texture. A bad headache with my head all stuffed up. I thought it would never end. I went through a whole roll of Scottex with my runny nose. I don't wish this on anyone. My doctor kept saying "It's not COVID, just a cold". It was HELL.6 -
Nice analysis of what covid tests detect vs. when people are contagious.
tl;dr:
How long should people who test positive isolate? 2 part answer:
1) vaccinated people should isolate 5 days following +antigen test, take another antigen test after 5 days; if that's positive, person is contagious & should isolate another 5 days and retest; if antigen test negative, person is no longer contagious
2) unvaccinated people should isolate (i.e. could be contagious) 10 days. If antigen test negative after 10 days, they are no longer contagious.4 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Can't remember what I have share (and not) or when. Anyhow, today, the 27th is the first morning with zero sore throat since Dec 11th. Have had 3 negative COVID tests and of the 8 family members that got this cold, everyone who has tested has tested negative (4 out of 8, three of which were the sickest including me). This cold was the cold from H*ll and finished off with an ear infection (husband - eye infection, daughter - pneumonia). With that in mind, my parents almost 85 and 87 were on the fence about the family meal on xmas day. Then, my sister found out 11 year old daughter may have been exposed in school on Monday. Parents backed out. The rest of us went forward with us home testing on Xmas morning before all meeting up.
Flash forward. My children and families were coming early to open presents in the morning. Get 9 am call. Daughter, et all, were in a 10 car crash due to freezing rain on an untreated winding steep hill. Thankfully, all the humans were fine, unlike the car that did its job by being destroyed while protecting the contents. My DH takes off in the car to help. The family was traveling in their pajamas for the fun morning with my <2 grandson and it is 30 degrees and freezing rain. Some lovely family took them in while the police dealt with the crash. They were given a warm home and hot tea. I am so thankful to this family for opening their home on xmas morning to provide aid to strangers, especially in these crazy times. With my husband's help, 3 hours later they were able to join us, 10 of us in total all tested for COVID.
Back to the topic of COVID celebrations. Our neighbor in our townhouse cluster celebrated xmas eve, but all in the garage (remember it is +/- 30 degrees out). Nice and fiancee in California are COVID positive. Nephew in the anti-vaxer part of the family has an enlarged heart, potentially from the J&J vaccine. Hubby is trying to fly back to Florida next weekend to see his mom. I hope their is still a flight and he does not get sick....... I have lots of home test kits. I am making sure I have easy access.
Oh, I should share that I went shopping for spare kits (had already used the kit I already had in home and was negative) during the stretch were I had zero voice from the cold from h*ll. Picture the face of the Walgreens cashier as I pointed to my throat, unable to make a sound, and held up a note to her asking for "BinaxNow COVID test kit". I was sold two kits very quickly.
Stay healthy all. I need a better 2022. I am ready for 2021 to be over!
I'm in Italy and also got this cold at the beginning of Dec. It lasted 2 weeks and I have never coughed so much (day and night) in my life. I was cold for several days and walked around in a blanket--when I wasn't in bed. So tired. The phelgm just kept coming and it was a pudding texture. A bad headache with my head all stuffed up. I thought it would never end. I went through a whole roll of Scottex with my runny nose. I don't wish this on anyone. My doctor kept saying "It's not COVID, just a cold". It was HELL.
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My aunt and my partner's aunt are on the opposite ends of the vax spectrum.
My aunt just sent us a copy of RFK Jr's anti-Fauci book. 'Nuff said.
My partner and I, his brother, nephew and gf visited his aunt Christmas eve. The aunt is vaxxed and boosted. She hasn't been letting people in the house since the pandemic began. She came to the door in a mask, and talked to us from the doorway. We were all at least 6 feet away. She was unhappy that my partner did not want to wear a mask. He is vaxxed and boosted and was 15 feet away.6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Can't remember what I have share (and not) or when. Anyhow, today, the 27th is the first morning with zero sore throat since Dec 11th. Have had 3 negative COVID tests and of the 8 family members that got this cold, everyone who has tested has tested negative (4 out of 8, three of which were the sickest including me). This cold was the cold from H*ll and finished off with an ear infection (husband - eye infection, daughter - pneumonia). With that in mind, my parents almost 85 and 87 were on the fence about the family meal on xmas day. Then, my sister found out 11 year old daughter may have been exposed in school on Monday. Parents backed out. The rest of us went forward with us home testing on Xmas morning before all meeting up.
Flash forward. My children and families were coming early to open presents in the morning. Get 9 am call. Daughter, et all, were in a 10 car crash due to freezing rain on an untreated winding steep hill. Thankfully, all the humans were fine, unlike the car that did its job by being destroyed while protecting the contents. My DH takes off in the car to help. The family was traveling in their pajamas for the fun morning with my <2 grandson and it is 30 degrees and freezing rain. Some lovely family took them in while the police dealt with the crash. They were given a warm home and hot tea. I am so thankful to this family for opening their home on xmas morning to provide aid to strangers, especially in these crazy times. With my husband's help, 3 hours later they were able to join us, 10 of us in total all tested for COVID.
Back to the topic of COVID celebrations. Our neighbor in our townhouse cluster celebrated xmas eve, but all in the garage (remember it is +/- 30 degrees out). Nice and fiancee in California are COVID positive. Nephew in the anti-vaxer part of the family has an enlarged heart, potentially from the J&J vaccine. Hubby is trying to fly back to Florida next weekend to see his mom. I hope their is still a flight and he does not get sick....... I have lots of home test kits. I am making sure I have easy access.
Oh, I should share that I went shopping for spare kits (had already used the kit I already had in home and was negative) during the stretch were I had zero voice from the cold from h*ll. Picture the face of the Walgreens cashier as I pointed to my throat, unable to make a sound, and held up a note to her asking for "BinaxNow COVID test kit". I was sold two kits very quickly.
Stay healthy all. I need a better 2022. I am ready for 2021 to be over!
I'm in Italy and also got this cold at the beginning of Dec. It lasted 2 weeks and I have never coughed so much (day and night) in my life. I was cold for several days and walked around in a blanket--when I wasn't in bed. So tired. The phelgm just kept coming and it was a pudding texture. A bad headache with my head all stuffed up. I thought it would never end. I went through a whole roll of Scottex with my runny nose. I don't wish this on anyone. My doctor kept saying "It's not COVID, just a cold". It was HELL. glad you are better!!
I'm glad you are too! Thanks for posting this. Nobody I know had this and my husband didn't get it. I thought I was nuts. When you described it I almost jumped out of my chair. I was so sick.6 -
paperpudding wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »
This is so true. Just the tip of the iceberg. I too tested positive (and so did my youngest). I suspect others in the family had it before us but by the time we realized it they had tested negative. Thank God...I was vaccinated. I still have a slight cough but I think now it is just a cold. I did have two negative tests (one PCR). Why on earth anyone would not want to get vaccinated is just beyond me. I have an 86 year old friend who is home bound and relies on health care (state aid) to come in daily to help her. None of them are vaccinated!!Covid finally hit us, husband has it. Got our boosters on the 15th so hopefully remains mild. I am negative thus far. Daughter tested positive last night but no symptoms.
I would say to disregard the "official" Covid numbers at this point, it's probably the tip of the iceberg. We only know they are positive because I bought some rapid tests last week (they are sold out now) and we can't get a PCR test until Jan 2 because of high demand. So our cases won't be included in the tally, and I imagine there are others in the same boat.
It breaks my heart that health care workers knowingly endanger vulnerable people like your 86 year old friend. Why are they even in health care professions if they disregard health science and don't care?
Does the employer not have a vaccine requirement for their health employees?
No. They can barely find any employees to work as it is. Very sad. One of my friends health care workers who is not vaccinated even lost 3 family members due to covid. I just don't get it.
I dont get it either.
Here in Aus, people working in Aged care and Health care have to be vaccinated - it isnt up to each employer it is government directive
but hard to discuss further without getting into politics.
A big part of the problem here is an overall labor shortage, especially in relatively low-paying jobs such as elderly care.
There are many reasons for the shortage, from older workers deciding to retire, to younger workers deciding to peruse higher-paying and lower-risk jobs, among other factors.
Despite federal mandates for employers to require vaccinations or regular testing, many employers are afraid to lose workers when they are already short-staffed. So, they are simply not complying with the directive or bringing court challenges to make their case.
What does the labor market look like in Australia right now? Do elderly care workers make a decent wage? Are there staffing shortages?
Some areas of health care and Aged care in particular are short staffed here too.
You get reasonable pay and secure employment but certainly not a high paying job.
However govt mandates about vaccination are not optional and no health care providers would not enforce it or challenge in court.
I imagine their employees and family members would be up in arms if they did - you would lose accreditation, funding etc as well as be heavily fined.
Based on what the original poster said, this employer did not have a vax mandate. The reason they have apparently chosen not to is concern about having sufficient employees if they did. It could be the federal mandates (which are being challenged) don't apply and the state also doesn't have applicable ones (the rules in the US vary by state and locality on some of this stuff).1 -
Covid finally hit us, husband has it. Got our boosters on the 15th so hopefully remains mild. I am negative thus far. Daughter tested positive last night but no symptoms.
I would say to disregard the "official" Covid numbers at this point, it's probably the tip of the iceberg. We only know they are positive because I bought some rapid tests last week (they are sold out now) and we can't get a PCR test until Jan 2 because of high demand. So our cases won't be included in the tally, and I imagine there are others in the same boat.
At this point I think reporting on new cases is a bit ridiculous. I would like the reporting to shift to hospitalizations and who are in those hospitals and what variant they have. The number of cases was relevant early on, but I think we're heading from pandemic to endemic and we don't really do these daily new case reporting on other endemic viruses. It becomes redundant and irrelevant at some point.
Hopefully this is actually a turning point where the virus itself may be more contagious, but less of an overall health concern like other endemic viruses. I think it will always be with us just like the flu and common cold, but hopefully this variant and others will be less of an overall health concern in terms of hospitalization and death.10 -
Nice analysis of what covid tests detect vs. when people are contagious.
tl;dr:
How long should people who test positive isolate? 2 part answer:
1) vaccinated people should isolate 5 days following +antigen test, take another antigen test after 5 days; if that's positive, person is contagious & should isolate another 5 days and retest; if antigen test negative, person is no longer contagious
2) unvaccinated people should isolate (i.e. could be contagious) 10 days. If antigen test negative after 10 days, they are no longer contagious.
I saw that yesterday and agree that it was helpful.
I have no symptoms, but bc omnicron seems to be spreading like crazy everywhere, asked a friend to pick me up a couple of tests at Walgreens if there were some, so just took my first covid test. Negative. I'm going to save the other for a bit.2 -
Hi folks. I've been out for months, busy having a baby.
I'm glad I got double vaccinated during pregnancy, because I just got a positive at-home antigen test today but symptoms are very, very mild. By 2019 standards I would have gone to the office normally and maybe skipped the gym or switched to a lighter workout, but that's it. The local healthcare officials are currently advising to just self-quarantine without an official PCR test despite current national guidelines (Finland), because they simply don't have the capacity to test enough as omicron is blowing up. My husband and the family members I met yesterday have all tested negative at home.
I was able to secure a no-contact grocery delivery for tomorrow, and we have 6 more antigen tests at home, so we should be set to quarantine until the end of the week. Thankfully my husband is on paternity leave so there's no hassle about his work, and we agreed he'll take 100% of baby care duties (including bottle feeding) to minimize the risk of infecting our 2-month-old. My symptoms are very mild and already subsiding, so I'm hoping to be clear soon. If this is the worst of it and there are no setbacks, my biggest concerns are about how long to self-quarantine and whether we can bring our daughter to her vaccination appointment next week (regular early childhood vax and not related to covid, still very important to us). Healthcare and all advisory hotlines are slammed and I don't want to burden them with something that doesn't need immediate care, and Dr. Google isn't helping me with this one.12 -
paperpudding wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »
This is so true. Just the tip of the iceberg. I too tested positive (and so did my youngest). I suspect others in the family had it before us but by the time we realized it they had tested negative. Thank God...I was vaccinated. I still have a slight cough but I think now it is just a cold. I did have two negative tests (one PCR). Why on earth anyone would not want to get vaccinated is just beyond me. I have an 86 year old friend who is home bound and relies on health care (state aid) to come in daily to help her. None of them are vaccinated!!Covid finally hit us, husband has it. Got our boosters on the 15th so hopefully remains mild. I am negative thus far. Daughter tested positive last night but no symptoms.
I would say to disregard the "official" Covid numbers at this point, it's probably the tip of the iceberg. We only know they are positive because I bought some rapid tests last week (they are sold out now) and we can't get a PCR test until Jan 2 because of high demand. So our cases won't be included in the tally, and I imagine there are others in the same boat.
It breaks my heart that health care workers knowingly endanger vulnerable people like your 86 year old friend. Why are they even in health care professions if they disregard health science and don't care?
Does the employer not have a vaccine requirement for their health employees?
No. They can barely find any employees to work as it is. Very sad. One of my friends health care workers who is not vaccinated even lost 3 family members due to covid. I just don't get it.
I dont get it either.
Here in Aus, people working in Aged care and Health care have to be vaccinated - it isnt up to each employer it is government directive
but hard to discuss further without getting into politics.
A big part of the problem here is an overall labor shortage, especially in relatively low-paying jobs such as elderly care.
There are many reasons for the shortage, from older workers deciding to retire, to younger workers deciding to peruse higher-paying and lower-risk jobs, among other factors.
Despite federal mandates for employers to require vaccinations or regular testing, many employers are afraid to lose workers when they are already short-staffed. So, they are simply not complying with the directive or bringing court challenges to make their case.
What does the labor market look like in Australia right now? Do elderly care workers make a decent wage? Are there staffing shortages?
Some areas of health care and Aged care in particular are short staffed here too.
You get reasonable pay and secure employment but certainly not a high paying job.
However govt mandates about vaccination are not optional and no health care providers would not enforce it or challenge in court.
I imagine their employees and family members would be up in arms if they did - you would lose accreditation, funding etc as well as be heavily fined.
Based on what the original poster said, this employer did not have a vax mandate. The reason they have apparently chosen not to is concern about having sufficient employees if they did. It could be the federal mandates (which are being challenged) don't apply and the state also doesn't have applicable ones (the rules in the US vary by state and locality on some of this stuff).
yes I know - poster has already explained all that.
Was just answering her question re situation here in Aus
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Nice analysis of what covid tests detect vs. when people are contagious.
tl;dr:
How long should people who test positive isolate? 2 part answer:
1) vaccinated people should isolate 5 days following +antigen test, take another antigen test after 5 days; if that's positive, person is contagious & should isolate another 5 days and retest; if antigen test negative, person is no longer contagious
2) unvaccinated people should isolate (i.e. could be contagious) 10 days. If antigen test negative after 10 days, they are no longer contagious.
I saw that yesterday and agree that it was helpful.
I have no symptoms, but bc omnicron seems to be spreading like crazy everywhere, asked a friend to pick me up a couple of tests at Walgreens if there were some, so just took my first covid test. Negative. I'm going to save the other for a bit.
After posting just this morning, the CDC updated guidance today, without the vax/un-vax differentiation. Dynamic situation. Hope you were able to get tests.1
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