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Pfizer for teens?
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I had a google out of curiosity because I recalled hearing that approx 150 police officers from NSW had been put on leave due to refusing the mandatory covid vaccines (https://www.google.com/search?q=police+officers+on+leave+covid+vaccine+queensland&oq=police+officers+on+leave+covid+vaccine+queensland&aqs=chrome..69i57.16048j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) and it seems like very few Australian's serving in the Police Service are refusing to be vaccinated. However, Australia has aa *very* different cultural outlook to America, so these results of course don't apply to USA. I would be greatly surprised to learn that there were massive numbers (1000's-10 000's) of police/ambulance/medical/firefighting staff who refuse to be vaccinated in the USA.2
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Two weeks ago a friend was admitted to the local hospital. He had E Coli, was septic and had renal failure. The nurse said that if he had come to the hospital (the only hospital in our county) 4 weeks earlier he would not have been admitted and would have been sent home. He would have died. Four weeks earlier the hospital was at 150% of capacity, the ICU was full of covid patients, there were covid patients in beds in the hall, and covid patients spent up to 5 days on a gurney in the ER waiting for a bed. Less than 40% of this county has been vaccinated.
Recently Colorado was a hotspot. It was reported that 86% of the hospitalized covid patients were unvaccinated.
It makes me angry that people are so selfish in not getting vaccinated (with exceptions of course). Feel free to consider yourself vilified.13 -
All the really important stuff with links to the current research written in laymans' terms with explanations of "What does that mean"
https://www.goodrx.com/blog/how-effective-are-covid-19-vaccines/1 -
KeithBarrows wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I just keep getting this feeling that it's more about childish rebellion or politics or maybe fear of needles - whatever - but the reticence is absolutely baffling and I'm trying to understand. Truly.
Let's see:
Oldest daughter vaccinated - yes.
Middle daughter vaccinated - yes.
Middle daughter's Husband vaccinated - yes.
Middle daughter's kids vaccinated - no, she is waiting for it to be authorized for under 8 and under 3.
For those of us who have had Covid:
Wife vaccinated - no. Most EDS patients have been counseled against vaccination as a precaution. She works a boutique retail store and has been open since Florida lifted all bans 18-ish months ago. 99.9% of the people who come into the store have been unmasked - for the last 18-ish months!
Son vaccinated - no. Type 1 Diabetic, semi-pro ball player, does not want to risk the heart problems associated with his cohort of young adults. Son also works 30+ hours/week in the same store my wife manages.
Me vaccinated - no. I was born on the Asian Rim (Philippines) and grew up there for the first 5 years of my life. I probably had more shots by the age of 5 than most Americans have had their whole life. I was also military for 13 years and received batteries of shots there as well. Afraid of needles? Afraid not! I also donated plasma for several years - 4-5 times each month. Those are some BIG needles. Flu shot - I've gotten it once for a client I picked up for work, and voluntarily twice before that. Every time it knocked me out of working for 3-5 days. I do NOT do flu shots.
The CDC is far from settled on any of this. It has been a game of changing their mind every freaking week for 20 months straight. Are they all vaccinated? Nope! The only answer you get on that subject is evasion.
https://youtu.be/QabAtYBnqro
The covid "vaccination" is NOT a vaccination: "A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins."
The shot being offered is a mRNA shot. "Messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines teach our cells how to make a protein that triggers an immune response." mRNA tries to prep your body to respond to certain proteins - the same way a body who already had the disease is able to remember the sequence (RNA) and produce the antibodies again if infected again.
How many Nurses, Doctors, Techs, etc have been "put on leave" for not getting the jab?
Why are the heroes of the pandemic now the pariah of civilization?
How many teenagers and young adults have enlarged hearts after getting the jab?
How many have tested positive for covid after their 2nd shot?
How many are carriers of covid after their 2nd shot? (The false claim of protecting others by getting vaccinated.)
What is the FULL definition of herd immunity?
Why is 1/2 the definition of herd immunity being ignored?
If you are vaccinated why do you fear the unvaccinated? (Every other vaccine you ever got in your life was to protect YOU from that disease! But not this one?)
Why can you NOT sue for injury after receiving the jab? (That is a FIRST!)cmriverside wrote: »more about childish rebellion or politics or maybe fear of needles - whatever -
The mRNA vaccine is indeed a vaccine. Yes, in the past we used microbes or pieces of microbes to pre-arm our immune system. In this case the mRNA vaccine directs our own cells to make a piece of the virus. How is this not a vaccine?9 -
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????....COVID is running through my kids' elementary and middle school like a wild fire.6 -
Well I did not get my kids vaccinated. One is only 2, the others are 6 and 14. I don't really know why I'm commenting, I'm not interested in defending my decision, but I'm glad I have the freedom to make that choice. Where I live, everyone is getting covid, vaccinated or not.7
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I'm homeschooling until next year, but our area's (in the South US) public schools spiked with about 35 kids reporting positive Jan.7-13th and this week only 1out of about 3,000 kids.1
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I'm homeschooling until next year, but our area's (in the South US) public schools spiked with about 35 kids reporting positive Jan.7-13th and this week only 1out of about 3,000 kids.
Don't really know the actual numbers, but our schools her in the ABQ metro area had a huge spike in January along with everywhere else. My work was crazy in January with positive cases...we had to shut down a couple of locations for about a week because we couldn't staff. My wife and I and our kids also caught it in early January...we're all fully vaccinated and wife and I are boosted...my youngest (9) and I were pretty sick, but only for 2 days and then it was like nothing happened. My wife had a runny nose and my 11 year old was asymptomatic other than saying he felt like he couldn't clear his throat.
In general, it seems to be petering out here and numbers are dropping fast...but January was nuts all over the state. Pretty much everyone in our circle of friends and my mom and her boyfriend caught it in January except for 2 people who somehow either managed not to get it or they had it and were asymptomatic. It's just surprising because they are a husband and wife personal trainers who own their own gym and they're around people and right up in their faces everyday, all day.2 -
Uh, nope. Children are not some magical creature or different species that has immunity that is somehow nonexistent in adult humans.
Heck, even some other species DON'T have immunity to this. So far, the species we know that can catch covid from us humans are: ferrets, cats (including big wild cats), dogs, mink, bank voles, bats, hamsters, pigs, rabbits, racoon dogs, tree shrews, and deer.
This many animals are susceptible to this virus, and we're supposed to believe that somehow the young of OUR species is safe, when even other species are catching covid?
Our kids are not that special, unfortunately.4 -
My 2 grandchildren got Covid - they were not vaccinated because they were too young (aged 4 and 2) - the natural immunity theory didn't work for them
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How’d everyone turn out post-vaccine? How’d your kiddo do? Lots has changed since this thread started and ended.3
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All three of my kids have been vaccinated. Aged 16,11 and 9. None of them had any issues at all of even side effects beyond achey arm2
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Oldest grandchild, mentioned in my previous post, has now turned 5
has had first covid vaccine, no problems.3 -
we all got covid in jan, my 9 year old had not been vaccinated yet, she was scheduled for late jan, and my youngest was only 4. My husband and I are double vaxxed. my husband and i had it the worst, lots of fatigue super stuffed nose. But not that bad. Ive been sicker in years past with other colds and flu. 9 year old had a high fever 2 days and threw up once, 4 year old nothing. My 9 year old got her first vax a couple weeks after we had it. She said it hurt and her arm was sore the next day but that was it. I was the only one who tested positive, we didnt want to waste anymore of our tests on anyone else as we were isolating anyway.2
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