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Pfizer for teens?

NVintage
NVintage Posts: 1,463 Member
edited May 2021 in Debate Club
I hope this doesn't get deleted for being political. It is a subject of health and fitness, though! Do you all think that the risks of covid outweigh the risks of adverse reactions to vaccine in pre-teens and teenagers? Is it worth it for healthy kids to be vaccinated?
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  • NVintage
    NVintage Posts: 1,463 Member
    Thanks! It's good to hear some rational opinions. :blush:<3
  • NVintage
    NVintage Posts: 1,463 Member
    That's a good point! I was worried about the vaccine maybe having worse side effects for teens, and maybe long term consequences with them going through puberty and all. I was looking into statistics from Israel and my age group (especially those with comorbidities) had the most bad side effects from the vaccine and it was still like a one in a million chance for it to be a serious one, I think..
  • fitom80
    fitom80 Posts: 154 Member
    There were cases(like cutter incident in US)esp. in beginning of mass vaccination but in response to these problems validation process was improved and also technology. Most of that cases were about contamination or failed inactivation of viruses(but mRNA vaccine is not based on deactivated viruses nor a deactivated virus as a carrier)

  • NVintage
    NVintage Posts: 1,463 Member
    I feel fortunate to be able to understand both points of view. I know that a lot of people are not getting it because of misinformation, but for others it's really a cultural thing and maybe legitimate reasons to be skeptical passed down from previous generations. Sometimes quite rational, believe it or not! My grandmother who was of Native American, English, and Swiss Mennonite ancestry came up with some pretty good answers not to take any medicines (even when she was diagnosed with diabetes) and she lived til she was 86! I tend to relate to the other side of my family, though, who sees this as just craziness...
    nooshi713 wrote: »
    lorrpb wrote: »
    I do not understand why people seem more concerned about unproven possible adverse effects of the vaccine (aside fro minor reaction) than they are about proven long term Effects of covid. I’m Not saying that’s you. I just don’t Understand that common argument.

    Yes exactly. Also, there hasn’t been a vaccine in history with a statistically significant level of harmful side effects. No negative effects on fertility, etc. The fear makes zero sense to me. But then, I read research articles....

  • NVintage
    NVintage Posts: 1,463 Member
    I agree 100%, and I am planning to schedule my daughter's vaccination when I go in for my second one! I was just responded to those that said that they don't understand the fear and hesitancy, and just saying that I can understand it. It is frustrating, but there are some people that don't want to be vaccinated because of a different religion or concept of health or healing, and that is their right...not always just because of misinformation or distrust. Natives have a lot of historical reasons to distrust the government, but I remember reading that some Shawnees from Ohio, refused to agree to remove to Indian territory without having smallpox vaccine protection in the 1830s! I actually think my grandmother's odd beliefs came from our Mennonite ancestors. As far as I can speculate, to her it contradicted faith or spiritual based healing.?:/ I think with my mom, it might be more a distrust of the medicine and fear of side effects, though.
    fitom80 wrote: »
    NVintage wrote: »
    I feel fortunate to be able to understand both points of view. I know that a lot of people are not getting it because of misinformation, but for others it's really a cultural thing and maybe legitimate reasons to be skeptical passed down from previous generations. Sometimes quite rational, believe it or not! My grandmother who was of Native American, English, and Swiss Mennonite ancestry came up with some pretty good answers not to take any medicines (even when she was diagnosed with diabetes) and she lived til she was 86! I tend to relate to the other side of my family, though, who sees this as just craziness..
    With deepest respect and understanding to what you have written...
    The distrust of your grandmother has maybe roots in "white man medicine".
    What has most cultures in common is reverence to life. Giving trust to all different medical scientists behind research, validation and approval of covid vaccines is expression of it.(many of them working day and night, not a kind of cheap glorification but truth) It's not a kind of "white man medicine".
    My grandfather lived almost as long as your granny. He was hard smoker since childhood. So, is this one experience enought to make a conclusion that doctors are not true about danger of smoking? The truth is that he could lost 10 years becase he had clogged vessel (only serious diseasse he faced) and modern medicine gave him additional 10 years of life.

  • NVintage
    NVintage Posts: 1,463 Member
    I know it is frustrating for medical providers! I probably drove my daughter's pediatrician crazy with my nervousness about vaccines. I love science, but I usually start out at least skeptical, if not fearful. Then I reprimand myself for being silly, haha.
  • nooshi713
    nooshi713 Posts: 4,871 Member
    NVintage wrote: »
    I know it is frustrating for medical providers! I probably drove my daughter's pediatrician crazy with my nervousness about vaccines. I love science, but I usually start out at least skeptical, if not fearful. Then I reprimand myself for being silly, haha.

    Awwwww. Well when patients come to me with questions I try to give them facts as opposed to my opinion. For example, a lot of patients were coming in recently afraid of getting a blood clot from the vaccine but when I informed them that the risk was 1-2 in a million which was the same or lower than in the general population, many were reassured.