Do you believe in ghosts?

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  • MintMoijo
    MintMoijo Posts: 17 Member
    Oh yea they’re real, but just ignore them if you can 👍
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,511 Member
    MintMoijo wrote: »
    Oh yea they’re real, but just ignore them if you can 👍

    What if they just get louder? And scarier?

    :)
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 3,882 Member
    The past two days, I've woken up in the witching hours. The first night I could hear movement in the kitchen and my door rattled, not uncommon. Last night, I heard lots of noises outside of my bedroom, sometimes at my door, and three tapping sounds on my window near my bed, only feet from me. Things come and go in spurts, it seems, but they're escalating again. I remember one point, years ago, where I was waking up in the witching hours every night for a few weeks with paranormal activity. It's disturbing and it's exhausting. I used to get anxious going to sleep at night because I knew I'd be woken up. I pray, over and over again I pray for protection.
  • Mangoperson88
    Mangoperson88 Posts: 315 Member
    This is not like a ghost story but a near death experience i had when I was 12 years old. I remember i was just sitting in my tutor's house and suddenly I felt like my soul was being pulled from the top of my head. It was literally "dying" to get out of my body.
    And then I saw a beautiful vision of a man. He had shoulder length hair, beard and a very beatific smile. I think it was Jesus and it was my time to leave the world but I got so scared and i also felt such ugly demons around me screaming and yelling at him through me. My face was really contorted with hatred and anger and the vision vanished.
  • LBSwartz
    LBSwartz Posts: 10 Member
    No, I believe in the strength of the human spirit, which can linger long after the person is gone, for whatever reason.
  • ChillTheBathWater
    ChillTheBathWater Posts: 32 Member
    I'd say yes & no, since I believe that we're not all necessarily from the same place or going to the same place after this life.

    Some religions believe that this life is it & nothing happens after death (Jewish)... others believe we return over & over (Hindu)... others believe we go to heaven, h*ll or somewhere in-between (Catholic). What if all are correct? For some, it's their only life... others have many... others' souls go to another realm.

    Our lives on this earth plane aren't all the same... my life isn't like a millionaire, celebrity kid who grew up in the lap of luxury, nor like that of a homeless person in New Delhi. So, if we're not all cut from the same cloth, with different upbringings, nationalities, heritages, some with parents, some adopted, some unwanted... why should we all go to the same place/s after death?

    Maybe some return as ghosts for a variety of reasons... don't know they're dead, are evil & want to harm others in death as they did in life, are too attached to people/place/home, are lost souls & choose not to go anywhere, yet. Maybe some are dead, buried & that's it.

    I've had many experiences, but I don't know if they were real, my imagination/fear, bad dreams where I thought I was awake & wasn't. Sometimes I've heard loud sounds (crashes, in fact, like a heavy baking pan being dropped from waist height)... even recently in the last 2 apts I lived in & disliked from the moment I rented. Was it noise that traveled from somewhere else & sounded as if it were in my home... a headache in which I heard a genuine noise inside my head, but somehow thought it was outside of my head?

    I've seen things, as well, many times... real or not, I don't know. I've dismissed most of those as I am quite a scaredy-cat of a girl. If I watch a scary movie, I've been known to sleep with a light on for a few days. I am afraid of the dark, even as an adult. Therefore, it's easiest for me to dismiss fleeting things I think I've seen out of the corner of my eye or in the dark.

    I've smelled roses 3-4 times in my life, when I've suddenly felt my grandmother was around. There were no flowers present. Is it just some sort of memory appearing out of nowhere & for some reason, I've associated roses with her... maybe she once had roses in her house when I was a kid & I don't readily recall?

    I don't believe in much. I don't believe in god, angels, fairies, ghosts, souls. Although raised Catholic, I never have believed in god & am more from the school of thought that we are born, live & die & that's it. But, maybe that's just me. If anyone around me believes in all the above, maybe their experiences differ & they truly have met up with genuinely metaphysical things that are stronger than the supernatural events I've been readily able to dismiss.

    I've experienced a lot, but still feel that logically, it can be easily explained away. But, if I were to be shown the opposite, then I think I'd have no problem in believing. I'm just not a strong believer in anything other than animal/human/mother nature & that's not all grand & positive.
  • Hiawassee88
    Hiawassee88 Posts: 19,774 Member
    edited March 28
    I shared but mainly to support @LoveyChar There's more I would like to say but it falls into religion and spirituality and that's against the rules.
  • ChillTheBathWater
    ChillTheBathWater Posts: 32 Member
    I shared but mainly to support @LoveyChar There's more I would like to say but it falls into religion and spirituality and that's against the rules.

    Didn't know it was against the rules, but schools of thought would be an acceptable word replacement, no?
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 3,882 Member
    I shared but mainly to support @LoveyChar There's more I would like to say but it falls into religion and spirituality and that's against the rules.

    Thank you...
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 3,882 Member
    @ChillTheBathWater I appreciate your post, glad to hear others' perspectives/opinions. I only want to say one quick thing, which is that Jewish people do believe when you die you die but it's only temporary until the their savior comes to ressurect them, so the death is not permanent, only temporary. I watched The Final Days documentary two weeks ago and I sobbed wondering how they could be put through so much hell here on earth by the Nazis only to believe there was nothing in the afterlife. So I did a little research to find out that they believe they'll be resurrected. I remembered my dad had told me that. Not permanent, only temporary... That's all, thanks for letting me share. To anyone reading this, have a beautiful, sunshine filled day even if you don't see the sunshine today.
  • J_NY_Z
    J_NY_Z Posts: 2,457 Member
    I do not believe in ghosts but my personal opinion does not really matter.

    There seems to be a lot of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence that can never be reproduced to a level a scientist would accept as proof. Until that condition is satisfied the answer is no there are no ghosts.
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 3,882 Member
    J_NY_Z wrote: »
    I do not believe in ghosts but my personal opinion does not really matter.

    There seems to be a lot of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence that can never be reproduced to a level a scientist would accept as proof. Until that condition is satisfied the answer is no there are no ghosts.

    Oh I like your opinion and I wish it was mine. I really do. I wish I wish I wish I didn't believe in ghosts. But sadly, I do.

    Now, what about those detectors they show on the paranormal shows, like the ones that beep when you're in an active energy area or where the voices can be played back, synthesized I think somehow?
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,511 Member
    LoveyChar wrote: »
    J_NY_Z wrote: »
    I do not believe in ghosts but my personal opinion does not really matter.

    There seems to be a lot of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence that can never be reproduced to a level a scientist would accept as proof. Until that condition is satisfied the answer is no there are no ghosts.

    Oh I like your opinion and I wish it was mine. I really do. I wish I wish I wish I didn't believe in ghosts. But sadly, I do.

    Now, what about those detectors they show on the paranormal shows, like the ones that beep when you're in an active energy area or where the voices can be played back, synthesized I think somehow?

    I've never seen any of those shows but I'd suspect it's all theatrics? IDK.
    The world can definitely be a very strange place with unexplained things galore. But I'm not sure if I'm a true believer in ghosts.
    I do believe in 'signs' from spiritual energy. But not ghostly apparitions.
  • J_NY_Z
    J_NY_Z Posts: 2,457 Member
    LoveyChar wrote: »
    J_NY_Z wrote: »
    I do not believe in ghosts but my personal opinion does not really matter.

    There seems to be a lot of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence that can never be reproduced to a level a scientist would accept as proof. Until that condition is satisfied the answer is no there are no ghosts.

    Oh I like your opinion and I wish it was mine. I really do. I wish I wish I wish I didn't believe in ghosts. But sadly, I do.

    Now, what about those detectors they show on the paranormal shows, like the ones that beep when you're in an active energy area or where the voices can be played back, synthesized I think somehow?

    Well I will say this: Many of the items described in those shows are "detectors" but for what? EMI, electromagnetic radiation? Well there's plenty of that surrounding us every day (TV signals, radio waves, cosmic rays, cell signals, etc.). Thermometers? Fluctuations in temperatures are ubiquitous and not due to something paranormal. Recording devices both audio and visual? I've often heard noises that don't show up in a recording. Is that my grandfather trying to talk to me from the grave? Probably not.

    If I was trying to find evidence for a fish that was rumored to exist but nobody saw it, I would employ techniques that have attracted other fish because they work and we already know fish do exist. To look for evidence of something that is suspect requires a rigorous design of experiment to know what you are looking for and how it will present itself. It may be that ghosts are real but we currently don't have the technology to see them. That's real and happens all the time.

    Until then....a ghost or spirit would have to present themselves to me while I am in sound mind and convince me they are such. Even then one case does not indicate proof.
  • Hiawassee88
    Hiawassee88 Posts: 19,774 Member
    Alrighty then. This is for Char.

    I'm making it vague because this place is too small. There are many old original buildings downtown, established
    since the 1800's. One was the old funeral parlor with an old elevator, still usable. It's all metal. The sinks and original tables are still in the basement. Use your imagination.

    People from all over the world visit here. It's nothing but a clearing house for tourists. They see a little boy dressed in a navy sailor suit with a ball, 1800's style. He just shows up on the balcony above the main floor. He peers down upon the people as they come through the door. People see him and ask who he is. There are others still hanging around but it's all a mystery.

    There's another old town with a compass built into the sidewalk. It's made out of glass and quite beautiful. It's on a corner but people show up and disappear right at that very spot. Dogs, too. A woman owned a business there for 30 years. She used to tell us of the things she witnessed at the compass. One day, I was right there.

    I saw 3 woman hoist themselves upon the sidewalk. They were right in a row and looking forward. They disappeared into thin air. My friend was there watching. I said, did you see that? She smiled and said, that's what I've been telling you all along. She would see dogs running as fast as they could go and then disappear.

    I know all about familiar spirits and that takes it right to the razor's edge with religion. Thousands of people have witnessed these things over the past 120 years or more. I don't know if it's a time warp but it is a mind warp.
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 3,882 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    LoveyChar wrote: »
    J_NY_Z wrote: »
    I do not believe in ghosts but my personal opinion does not really matter.

    There seems to be a lot of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence that can never be reproduced to a level a scientist would accept as proof. Until that condition is satisfied the answer is no there are no ghosts.

    Oh I like your opinion and I wish it was mine. I really do. I wish I wish I wish I didn't believe in ghosts. But sadly, I do.

    Now, what about those detectors they show on the paranormal shows, like the ones that beep when you're in an active energy area or where the voices can be played back, synthesized I think somehow?

    I've never seen any of those shows but I'd suspect it's all theatrics? IDK.
    The world can definitely be a very strange place with unexplained things galore. But I'm not sure if I'm a true believer in ghosts.
    I do believe in 'signs' from spiritual energy. But not ghostly apparitions.

    I know Paranormal Adventures (I think that's the name of the show, with Zach, a former Penn State student) is staged. I have seen others, though, and I've wondered.

    Almost 2 1/2 years ago, I booked a haunted tour in Austin right before Halloween and for my daughter's birthday. Our tour guide was fantastic, truly he was. But the one we requested was unavailable when we wanted to tour. She had one of those voice recorder gadgets and one of those beep beep beep gadgets, or so I was told, and her tours got tons of customers.
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 3,882 Member
    J_NY_Z wrote: »
    LoveyChar wrote: »
    J_NY_Z wrote: »
    I do not believe in ghosts but my personal opinion does not really matter.

    There seems to be a lot of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence that can never be reproduced to a level a scientist would accept as proof. Until that condition is satisfied the answer is no there are no ghosts.

    Oh I like your opinion and I wish it was mine. I really do. I wish I wish I wish I didn't believe in ghosts. But sadly, I do.

    Now, what about those detectors they show on the paranormal shows, like the ones that beep when you're in an active energy area or where the voices can be played back, synthesized I think somehow?

    Well I will say this: Many of the items described in those shows are "detectors" but for what? EMI, electromagnetic radiation? Well there's plenty of that surrounding us every day (TV signals, radio waves, cosmic rays, cell signals, etc.). Thermometers? Fluctuations in temperatures are ubiquitous and not due to something paranormal. Recording devices both audio and visual? I've often heard noises that don't show up in a recording. Is that my grandfather trying to talk to me from the grave? Probably not.

    If I was trying to find evidence for a fish that was rumored to exist but nobody saw it, I would employ techniques that have attracted other fish because they work and we already know fish do exist. To look for evidence of something that is suspect requires a rigorous design of experiment to know what you are looking for and how it will present itself. It may be that ghosts are real but we currently don't have the technology to see them. That's real and happens all the time.

    Until then....a ghost or spirit would have to present themselves to me while I am in sound mind and convince me they are such. Even then one case does not indicate proof.

    All good points, truly, they are! My husband doesn't believe in ghosts and he lives in the same house as me.

    Now as far as the "fishing" part, I'm sure as hell not going to "fish" for ghosts. I want whatever spirit, soul, energy (that doesn't have a physical body) that is here gone.
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 3,882 Member
    Alrighty then. This is for Char.

    I'm making it vague because this place is too small. There are many old original buildings downtown, established
    since the 1800's. One was the old funeral parlor with an old elevator, still usable. It's all metal. The sinks and original tables are still in the basement. Use your imagination.

    People from all over the world visit here. It's nothing but a clearing house for tourists. They see a little boy dressed in a navy sailor suit with a ball, 1800's style. He just shows up on the balcony above the main floor. He peers down upon the people as they come through the door. People see him and ask who he is. There are others still hanging around but it's all a mystery.

    There's another old town with a compass built into the sidewalk. It's made out of glass and quite beautiful. It's on a corner but people show up and disappear right at that very spot. Dogs, too. A woman owned a business there for 30 years. She used to tell us of the things she witnessed at the compass. One day, I was right there.

    I saw 3 woman hoist themselves upon the sidewalk. They were right in a row and looking forward. They disappeared into thin air. My friend was there watching. I said, did you see that? She smiled and said, that's what I've been telling you all along. She would see dogs running as fast as they could go and then disappear.

    I know all about familiar spirits and that takes it right to the razor's edge with religion. Thousands of people have witnessed these things over the past 120 years or more. I don't know if it's a time warp but it is a mind warp.

    I'd go nuts there, hit up all history and tours of the town. I have never been to the wild, wild west. I believe you, because I don't discount claims of encounters anymore. I know it's real.

    Mentioned above to Reenie, that almost 2 1/2 years ago, I booked a haunted tour in Austin right before Halloween and for my daughter's birthday. Our tour guide told us of the murder history of Austin, super interesting and fun to walk downtown Austin with thousands of crazy, drunk college students in Halloween costumes having the times of their lives, music and bars and streets crowded. Halloween vibes everywhere.Our tour was creepy and guide hit all the corners, darkest parts of the murders and recalled other peoples' accounts of hauntings there.

    The Menger Hotel is a very famous hotel in Austin with many people claiming they saw a bouncing ball with nobody who could've thrown it or a rocking chair (President Eisenhower's or President Roosevelt's, I can't remember) with nobody in it or a little girl that appears and disappears.

    He took us under dark, shady trees next to an alley with almost no streetlight and told us a story about murderous thieves and then told us they were hung there.

    He took us to a haunted photo studio.

    There was a murderous rapist and it all occured within a small stretch of downtown Austin, which he said led people to believe that the murder walked amongst everyone in that small section, since they never caught him.

    Super creepy. I'm sure some of it was fictitious. Some of it wasn't.
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 3,882 Member
    The first two nights after my friend visited were the roughest that I've had in a long time. She believes in spirits, having seen them, and having been raised in Mexico and Catholic she told me of some of the customs she witnessed her grandmother doing to ward off malevolent spirits and to show peace with benevolent ones so I don't know if it's necessarily cultural or religious, or both. But all of them were things I'd never heard of, except for crosses up on walls everywhere.

    She is concerned she's got a demon attached to her, since she's got health issues and depression. So I'm sure there's energy, definitely, connected with that. Whether she does or doesn't, she's extremely anxious to even think that she does.