What nobody tells you about losing weight
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Fit2btied2016 wrote: »BartBVanBockstaele wrote: »Fit2btied2016 wrote: »Internet is going bonkers here, sorry for double posts.Fit2btied2016 wrote: »Anyway, hope things work out for you.Fit2btied2016 wrote: »I know for me and my situation, if I eat high carbs alone, I get really hungry in about 10 minutes. I have to eat lower carbs, and always with a protein source. I never eat protein alone, and I don't supplement it. Excess protein is also very hard to digest in the body. Protein is very hard on the kidneys.
Eggs and steak, or eggs and a sausage or ham are much better than me trying to survive on cold cereal in the mornings, for example. My husband is fine with it, but it's a waste of time (and sugar) for me.
I am not diabetic, but sugars and I don't get along, and I need to watch things like bread, etc. too. My system craves meat and vegetables the most, and that is what it does best with. Some natural fats, but again, easy on the carbs.
Try adding more fiber or vegetables like broccoli and see if that helps quell the hunger.
I think, but can certainly not prove, that the combination of low(er) digestible carbs and relatively high amounts of fibre containing foods, a.k.a. vegetables is what does it for me, but I have to remain vigilant: I do not eat fruit (as the Germans say: vegetables are the better fruit) because they have more sugar and because they are a trigger food for me. I also only eat low-carb vegetables and only if they are relatively high in fibre. So, I eat broccoli and spinach, for example, but stay away from daikon and zucchini because while they are very low in calories, they are also very low in fibre. I can just as well drink a glass of water, they do nothing for me.
I also do not use added oils, and haven't for years and years. Oil does nothing for me, except for making me fat. I do love nuts, seeds, avocadoes and cheese but I stay away from them because they are trigger foods and so high in calories that I can only eat ridiculously small amounts anyway. Why tempt fate? It is easier to simply abstain. I made that last decision in the beginning of this year and it gave me something I did not expect: food serenity. It just made my life so much easier and tolerable and easier to maintain and further reduce my weight. I still eat fat, but in the form of sardines, lupini beans and soybeans. Of course, even so-called fat-free vegetables still contain a tiny bit, as does coffee.Fit2btied2016 wrote: »I am also convinced that some food additives make me more hungry, and I definitely had bad experiences with medications wrecking my natural hunger cues.
There is one thing though. Loblaws sells a vegetable blend under the No Name brand, aptly named "mixed vegetables" that I really like. I scrapped it because it is high(ish) in calories and because it made me hungry, quite possibly due to the higher carb content as it contains lima beans and corn. I fully plan to try it again after I am on a stable and low-enough weight –for me. I hope it will work, I love that mixture.Fit2btied2016 wrote: »If I think I am hungry, I will have water first, and if I am still hungry in 10 minutes, then I know I need to eat food.
I appreciate your thoughtful replies, thank-you! We do have some things in common, and I will be reading your posts again in more detail. Briefly, yes, corn and lima beans on this end, too. Not sure why, but seems to me years ago an NP (Naturopath) told me I was allergic to them (and most beans), but with corn I think it is the sugar, and the fact that most of it is now GMO, and not what my grandparents would have farmed.
Someone suggested reading the book "Eat for Your Blood Type," years ago, but honestly I don't need anymore books and could probably find a free copy online somewhere or a cheap used one. It would be interesting if any here has read it or follows that method of eating.
Other signs point to wheat sensitivity, and "leaky gut" syndrome.
Probiotics and prebiotics also helped calm my system a bit in general, and with veggies, specifically, I make sure I rinse all potatoes after I cut them (and before I cook them), and that seems to help reduce some starch a tiny bit. (Same with rice).
I have been toying with the idea of eating only one food at a group, and alternating days for a few days, to see what happens. It will be kind of an "elimination diet," while reducing calories. So one day I would eat only fruits until full (and low carb ones), next day all the veggies I want, next day only rice, next day only lean meats.
I really need to figure out what combinations of food I need to avoid, or what drops the water weight (read bloat!).
It's like being my own lab rat, ha, ha.
Anyway, little by little. I hear you about the hunger scenario also. Part of it goes along with fasting/abstaining from meat (eg. Lent, etc.) here, but it's also good for your willpower as you have pointed out.
In some ways my mind is a lot quicker and sharper with hunger, as opposed to that feeling of being lazy and needing a tap after a huge turkey dinner or something where all the L-Tryptophan foods just lull a person to sleep, so to speak.
Your weight loss is very impressive, and it was nice to read about your progress! Thanks for sharing, and keep on truckin'!
Re the elimination diet - I actually highly recommend the Whole30 if you're interested in assessing what different foods do to your body. I did it as a last resort to try and solve what was suspected to be chronic vestibular migraines, and found soooo many other interesting things about my reactions to particular foods. There's multiple books about it, but to be honest - all the information you need to do it is on the Whole30 website. In a nutshell it's 30 days of no grains, no legumes, no sugars (save for in fruit), no dairy, no alcohol and avoiding some preservatives and additives (ie carneegan, sulfites etc), then you do a reintroduction where you add each group on its own back for 1 day and then go 2 back on the Whole30 and assess what each type of food does to you. Very, very educational.3 -
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Sorry, something is wrong with the Internet connection. I seem to have mixed up two different comments as a result. I apologise for that.Fit2btied2016 wrote: »Not sure why, but seems to me years ago an NP (Naturopath) told me I was allergic to them (and most beans), but with corn I think it is the sugar, and the fact that most of it is now GMO, and not what my grandparents would have farmed.
You may also want to check out "Britt Hermes", an American ex-naturopath. I just checked her website, she seems to be more or less silent right now but that may be because is a real doctor by now. I remember that she was actively studying to become one some years ago.
Here is an interview with her on the CBC:
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/naturopathy-mainstream-medicine-what-s-the-harm-1.3754973/ex-nd-britt-hermes-on-why-she-quit-naturopathy-1.3754990
Yet another interesting source is Edzard Ernst, the world's first university professor on alternative medicine. He is retired now, but still very active: https://edzardernst.com/Fit2btied2016 wrote: »Someone suggested reading the book "Eat for Your Blood Type," years ago, but honestly I don't need anymore books and could probably find a free copy online somewhere or a cheap used one. It would be interesting if any here has read it or follows that method of eating.
This is –and this is personal opinion, not proven fact– probably one of the reasons that some diets don't seem to work: they are not based on anything that actually does anything for weight loss.Fit2btied2016 wrote: »Other signs point to wheat sensitivity, and "leaky gut" syndrome.
I have no specific comments to make on probiotics and prebiotics, except that there is precious little evidence for the lofty claims. Most of the effects we think these things have are either placebo effects or post hoc ergo propter hoc (after this, therefore because of this) conclusions. It is an easy mistake to make and, to make it even more dangerous, sometimes the conclusion is right. My own most important lesson in this is my absolute conviction that metformin helped me lose weight... which turned out to be utter nonsense.Fit2btied2016 wrote: »I make sure I rinse all potatoes after I cut them (and before I cook them), and that seems to help reduce some starch a tiny bit. (Same with rice).Fit2btied2016 wrote: »I have been toying with the idea of eating only one food at a group, and alternating days for a few days, to see what happens. It will be kind of an "elimination diet," while reducing calories. So one day I would eat only fruits until full (and low carb ones), next day all the veggies I want, next day only rice, next day only lean meats.
Anecdotally, I tried a fruitarian diet myself around 35 years ago. I really loved it tremendously, but I had to stop it, mainly because I gained weight like there was no tomorrow because I was ravenously hungry all the time, and I would simply not have been able to limit portions. It was also very expensive, despite the fact that I was able to buy at a wholesale market because I bought so much. I should add that a fruitarian diet is not a good idea at all from a health perspective, but I did not consider that at the time, I didn't know then what I know now.Fit2btied2016 wrote: »I really need to figure out what combinations of food I need to avoid, or what drops the water weight (read bloat!).
It's like being my own lab rat, ha, ha.Fit2btied2016 wrote: »Anyway, little by little. I hear you about the hunger scenario also. Part of it goes along with fasting/abstaining from meat (eg. Lent, etc.) here, but it's also good for your willpower as you have pointed out.
In some ways my mind is a lot quicker and sharper with hunger, as opposed to that feeling of being lazy and needing a tap after a huge turkey dinner or something where all the L-Tryptophan foods just lull a person to sleep, so to speak.Fit2btied2016 wrote: »Your weight loss is very impressive, and it was nice to read about your progress! Thanks for sharing, and keep on truckin'!
Weight loss is a struggle, and contrary to what many people hope, the struggle is usually life-long. Let's not forget that eating normally turned out to be overeating in reality, so "going back to normal" is not an option. Many people claim that diets don't work, but I submit that many of them work just fine, it is our behaviour after weight loss that makes them seemingly fail, because we refuse to accept reality, but clearly, it is possible for all of us.
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This has been said before, and i think I may have even said it myself before. But your goal (whether it's to drop x number of pounds or drop x number of pants sizes) is not the end. You have to make lifestyle changes that last forever. All the things we do to get us to where we want to be are things we have to do continuously or we won't have long-term success. Be prepared to be on that journey for the rest of your life. Honestly, it becomes easy after doing it for a while. Like Nike says, "Just Do It."10
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Also, it's okay if you are not rigid with your plan. You should be sure to follow it for the most part, but if you want a cookie, have one. Don't eat five, and I recommend not eating the light, low-fat cookie. Eat the real thing. For me, if I eat a light version, I'm not as satisfied and I crave more. If I eat the regular cookie, I'm fulfilled and only need one.6
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willboywonder wrote: »This has been said before, and i think I may have even said it myself before. But your goal (whether it's to drop x number of pounds or drop x number of pants sizes) is not the end. You have to make lifestyle changes that last forever. All the things we do to get us to where we want to be are things we have to do continuously or we won't have long-term success. Be prepared to be on that journey for the rest of your life. Honestly, it becomes easy after doing it for a while. Like Nike says, "Just Do It."
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Indeed. Rigidity is great if you love it, but it is not really required. In my case, I am rigid at home, but don't make a fuss when I go out. I just minimise my portions and suck it up. If any weight was gained, it won't be much and I will be back to where I was in a few days anyway.
I do not eat cookies and whatever at home. As some who live alone, that is deadly. If it is in my home, it will end up in my mouth. Dietitians say that you have to learn to throw things away. Sure. I call that food waste, we have far too much of that and it is bad for the environment and the climate. I simply abstain, and since I do that, my life has (quite unexpectedly for me) become a lot easier. That may not be the case for everyone, this is more psychological than physiological, but there it is, and I take advantage of the effect.1 -
Fit2btied2016 wrote: »It's absolutely time-consuming to read each and every label, and yet there is no other option.
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Fit2btied2016 wrote: »[It's expensive, full of salt and sugar, and really not that great on the whole, but everyone will have their favourites, and that's fine. Do I miss it? Not really.
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One thing nobody ever told me about weight loss is that you feel really springy. Going about life feels lighter.
It’s hard to explain, but I’m down on here 112 pounds, but 124 pounds from my highest recorded weight, and after carrying around excess weight, it’s like your body remembers that weight and you still have the same muscles just moving less mass so it’s like being an astronaut in the moon and you are bouncy. 😂24 -
Almost daily walking and drinking more water. Using a kitchen scale for serving control will help slowly shed those pounds and have more energy to boot!6
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Almost daily walking and drinking more water. Using a kitchen scale for serving control will help slowly shed those pounds and have more energy to boot!3
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Almost daily walking and drinking more water. Using a kitchen scale for serving control will help slowly shed those pounds and have more energy to boot!
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Nobody tells you that your wrinkles will show 🤣7
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