The simple reason why over 90% of dieters regain lost weight
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Do you know she's not? Again, not uncommon for people who embark on a diet to really not know what to eat. We get questions all the time here from people asking what they can eat on keto. And I didn't specify that keto was the only elimination diet. I just said it is. And while yes eliminating some foods in people diets will save them, eliminating too much can do the opposite.neanderthin wrote: »
Which is WHY I asked. Hopefully she responds with what else she's eating. For all we know, what she listed is all she eats which is not uncommon when people do elimination diets.neanderthin wrote: »
The person I responded to wrote what she ate. I responded because what you mentioned above WASN'T in her diet.neanderthin wrote: »
https://paleofoundation.com/micronutrient-deficiency-ketogenic-diet/neanderthin wrote: »
What about minerals and other vitamins that aren't provided if you're only doing keto?candylilacs wrote: »My "fad diet" is what I consider the pre-diabetic and diabetic meal plan. I have a "keto-ish" meal plan, but it is protein-rich and has minimal carbs.
All I had to do "keto-ish" meals, and you had so many posters telling me, "Keto is not doable in the long run!" Wrong.
You cook and prepare your own food and lifehack to your own nutrition. I keep whole milk in my diet, cheese, and avocado, but "keto chocolate" is an abomination. If you do it right, you can have half of Ghiradelli bar (72% cacao), blueberries (or raspberries), and whipped cream. I do prefer the milk-chocolate, Cadbury Daily Milk. That's MY burden.
vitamin B1, vitamin B6, vitamin B7, vitamin B12, calcium, iron, magnesium, and phosphorus to name a few.
Also, are you saying that you'll never have over 25 grams of carbs in your diet daily with the exception of an indulge here and there. And how long have you been doing this?
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Maybe check before making such broad statements. Your about as far a way from being correct as anyone can be.
Important Micronutrient Targets for a Ketogenic Diet
Vitamins
• Vitamin B1
• Vitamin B5
• Vitamin B7
• Vitamin D
• Vitamin E
Major Minerals
• Calcium
• Magnesium
• Manganese
• Potassium
• Sodium
Trace Minerals
• Selenium
• Zinc
• Chromium
• Copper
• Iodine
• Molybdenum
• Iron
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Niner, you don't get off that easy. All of these are easily available in good quantities in a ketogenic diet. Be more specific.
For example eating salmon and leafy greens covers most B vitamins and 100g's liver exceeds all DV for all B vitamins and a few not mentioned for example. Both major minerals and trace minerals are covered as well.
Every diet regardless of how it's designed people will need to be mindful, and this is exactly what this site is referencing.
Are you actually familiar with vitamins, minerals? I'm not sure why you would post something so easily disputed. B12 is prominent in animal products, calcium is in dairy, sardines and cheese and iron is easy available in seafood, greens and liver so it's hard to tell what your motives are. I know the ketogenic diet freaks out most people here, so not sure of your reasoning.
My bad on listing iron since I do know that one of the only ways to obtain iron is through animal products. But what I listed ISN'T unreasonable to believe that some doing keto may NOT be getting in vitamins and minerals that are essential for optimal and good health. I've done keto many times on contest prep.
And yes, every diet you have to be mindful on. I ask vegans all the time about vitamins and iron that may be lacking in RDA amounts for them.
Anyway, I think you're just responding to just what I write and not really seeing why I'm responding.
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She only mentioned a couple of things she was eating, and not a complete list, then you responded by saying"What about minerals and other vitamins that aren't provided if you're only doing keto? vitamin B1, vitamin B6, vitamin B7, vitamin B12, calcium, iron, magnesium, and phosphorus to name a few.
Yeah, I have no idea why you responded in the way you did to that person, and yes, I did respond only to your response because it didn't make sense. Cheers
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Which is WHY I asked. Hopefully she responds with what else she's eating. For all we know, what she listed is all she eats which is not uncommon when people do elimination diets.neanderthin wrote: »
The person I responded to wrote what she ate. I responded because what you mentioned above WASN'T in her diet.neanderthin wrote: »
https://paleofoundation.com/micronutrient-deficiency-ketogenic-diet/neanderthin wrote: »
What about minerals and other vitamins that aren't provided if you're only doing keto?candylilacs wrote: »My "fad diet" is what I consider the pre-diabetic and diabetic meal plan. I have a "keto-ish" meal plan, but it is protein-rich and has minimal carbs.
All I had to do "keto-ish" meals, and you had so many posters telling me, "Keto is not doable in the long run!" Wrong.
You cook and prepare your own food and lifehack to your own nutrition. I keep whole milk in my diet, cheese, and avocado, but "keto chocolate" is an abomination. If you do it right, you can have half of Ghiradelli bar (72% cacao), blueberries (or raspberries), and whipped cream. I do prefer the milk-chocolate, Cadbury Daily Milk. That's MY burden.
vitamin B1, vitamin B6, vitamin B7, vitamin B12, calcium, iron, magnesium, and phosphorus to name a few.
Also, are you saying that you'll never have over 25 grams of carbs in your diet daily with the exception of an indulge here and there. And how long have you been doing this?
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Maybe check before making such broad statements. Your about as far a way from being correct as anyone can be.
Important Micronutrient Targets for a Ketogenic Diet
Vitamins
• Vitamin B1
• Vitamin B5
• Vitamin B7
• Vitamin D
• Vitamin E
Major Minerals
• Calcium
• Magnesium
• Manganese
• Potassium
• Sodium
Trace Minerals
• Selenium
• Zinc
• Chromium
• Copper
• Iodine
• Molybdenum
• Iron
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Niner, you don't get off that easy. All of these are easily available in good quantities in a ketogenic diet. Be more specific.
For example eating salmon and leafy greens covers most B vitamins and 100g's liver exceeds all DV for all B vitamins and a few not mentioned for example. Both major minerals and trace minerals are covered as well.
Every diet regardless of how it's designed people will need to be mindful, and this is exactly what this site is referencing.
Are you actually familiar with vitamins, minerals? I'm not sure why you would post something so easily disputed. B12 is prominent in animal products, calcium is in dairy, sardines and cheese and iron is easy available in seafood, greens and liver so it's hard to tell what your motives are. I know the ketogenic diet freaks out most people here, so not sure of your reasoning.
My bad on listing iron since I do know that one of the only ways to obtain iron is through animal products. But what I listed ISN'T unreasonable to believe that some doing keto may NOT be getting in vitamins and minerals that are essential for optimal and good health. I've done keto many times on contest prep.
And yes, every diet you have to be mindful on. I ask vegans all the time about vitamins and iron that may be lacking in RDA amounts for them.
Anyway, I think you're just responding to just what I write and not really seeing why I'm responding.
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She only mentioned a couple of things she was eating, and not a complete list, then you responded by saying"What about minerals and other vitamins that aren't provided if you're only doing keto? vitamin B1, vitamin B6, vitamin B7, vitamin B12, calcium, iron, magnesium, and phosphorus to name a few.
Yeah, I have no idea why you responded in the way you did to that person, and yes, I did respond only to your response because it didn't make sense. Cheers
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Do you really believe she's only consuming milk, cheese and avocado. Pretty much every diet is an elimination diet like a vegan, fodmap, Dash, Ornish and the ketogenic diet is no difference. Considering most Americans eat a diet that's killing them, eliminating some of that food would be considered life saving. Cheers.
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Hello @ninerbuff ..I find your posts very inspiring,is your diary open,I would just like to check what you eat , to keep a check , what I eat,absolutely no problem.....if your diary is not open,completely understand...thanks for sharing 🙂0
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It's private, but I'll tell you I eat fast food at least 2 times a week and eat out at least once a week and it's usually either Thai, Chinese or Mexican.Hello @ninerbuff ..I find your posts very inspiring,is your diary open,I would just like to check what you eat , to keep a check , what I eat,absolutely no problem.....if your diary is not open,completely understand...thanks for sharing 🙂
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I hardly changed my eating habits from when I was loosing weight but I gained back 20lb. My main problem was that I stopped exercising. While I agree that strict dietary restrictions are not sustainable long term i would not put 90% mark on this reason. I think it is sustainadle diet and effective exercise together.
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Well you were eating enough to sustain losing weight while exercising. Eating the extra calories burned from exercise but NOT exercising would put you in a surplus which is why you gained weight.svetlanatanner wrote: »I hardly changed my eating habits from when I was loosing weight but I gained back 20lb. My main problem was that I stopped exercising. While I agree that strict dietary restrictions are not sustainable long term i would not put 90% mark on this reason. I think it is sustainadle diet and effective exercise together.
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springlering62 wrote: »It makes me so sad to see so many “I’m back” posts here.
If nothing else, read and learn from those folks.
I'm one of those sad posts. I didn't gain a ton of weight but enough for me to say "Oh no....gotta log food again." That's why this time I'm taking it so slow. If I fail a little "that's OK." Plus, I'm not driving myself crazy with major goals. I'm dealing with the little ones. Life is too short to beat myself up anymore.2 -
I'm not a certified anything and I don't want to sound like a spokesperson here but, has anyone heard of the PH Balancer from Mother Earth Labs?
I had to deal with some medical issues that caused a lot of changes in my life. During all that, I also changed up my diet and some routines but I was still feeling a little sluggish and dealt with a lot of inflammationg and such. I went to see a dietician and they recommended the PH Balancer.
I won't lie, the liquid form is not in any way shape or form tasty, but it is potent. It's made with organic foods and herbs and minerals and such. It was amazingly helpful to me when I was going through everything and really helped fill in some of the gaps that I had from my diet and regular daily vitamins.
I'm not saying it's for everyone, but it's at least worth a look-see to check it out and talk it over with your doctor and/or nutritionist.1 -
pH balancer is deceptive because your body regulates pH consistently because any small shift one way or the other can be dangerous for the body. That's why things like "alkaline water" or "alkaline diets" are BS.mnhughes22 wrote: »I'm not a certified anything and I don't want to sound like a spokesperson here but, has anyone heard of the PH Balancer from Mother Earth Labs?
I had to deal with some medical issues that caused a lot of changes in my life. During all that, I also changed up my diet and some routines but I was still feeling a little sluggish and dealt with a lot of inflammationg and such. I went to see a dietician and they recommended the PH Balancer.
I won't lie, the liquid form is not in any way shape or form tasty, but it is potent. It's made with organic foods and herbs and minerals and such. It was amazingly helpful to me when I was going through everything and really helped fill in some of the gaps that I had from my diet and regular daily vitamins.
I'm not saying it's for everyone, but it's at least worth a look-see to check it out and talk it over with your doctor and/or nutritionist.
Just another way for companies to "scare" you and have them purchase products based on psuedoscience.
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pH balancer is deceptive because your body regulates pH consistently because any small shift one way or the other can be dangerous for the body. That's why things like "alkaline water" or "alkaline diets" are BS.mnhughes22 wrote: »I'm not a certified anything and I don't want to sound like a spokesperson here but, has anyone heard of the PH Balancer from Mother Earth Labs?
I had to deal with some medical issues that caused a lot of changes in my life. During all that, I also changed up my diet and some routines but I was still feeling a little sluggish and dealt with a lot of inflammationg and such. I went to see a dietician and they recommended the PH Balancer.
I won't lie, the liquid form is not in any way shape or form tasty, but it is potent. It's made with organic foods and herbs and minerals and such. It was amazingly helpful to me when I was going through everything and really helped fill in some of the gaps that I had from my diet and regular daily vitamins.
I'm not saying it's for everyone, but it's at least worth a look-see to check it out and talk it over with your doctor and/or nutritionist.
Just another way for companies to "scare" you and have them purchase products based on psuedoscience.
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I never took it because of the "PH" factor. My nutritionist recommended it because of the micronutrients in it and the way it helped with my inflammation. Also, I will totally accept the fact that it's not for everyone.
I also never thought of it as a quick fix to anything. I did a lot of changes to my diet and daily routines to build new healthy habits, this just helped fill in a few of the gaps. I will also admit that at the time they put me on this I was dealing with brain tumors (about golf ball size) that had basically killed my pituitary glad so, everything in my entire system was WAY outta whack. I didn't even know a product like this existed and I ONLY started taking it after consulting with both my doctor and my certified nutritionist.2 -
Do you know she's not? Again, not uncommon for people who embark on a diet to really not know what to eat. We get questions all the time here from people asking what they can eat on keto. And I didn't specify that keto was the only elimination diet. I just said it is. And while yes eliminating some foods in people diets will save them, eliminating too much can do the opposite.
I have been on a diet for most of my life. I read and I have advanced degrees. So, your pigeonholing of me, a dumb hick, is not correct. My day is a lot like this one. No, I haven't had lasagna every day of the week. Variety is the spice of life.
Breakfast: Matcha tea latte, two eggs scrambled with spinach, bell peppers, and cheese.
Lunch: Paninos, spinach salad with strawberries with a poppyseed dressing.
Dinner: 2 servings of lasagna in meat and vegetable sauce (spinach, squash, mushrooms)
Snack: Nuts, beef jerky, cheese, 365 Double-Feature trail mix
I take vitamins, water, or zero-calorie Gatorade.
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Good to know. If it's for the vitamins and minerals then supplementation for possible shortages in RDAmnhughes22 wrote: »
pH balancer is deceptive because your body regulates pH consistently because any small shift one way or the other can be dangerous for the body. That's why things like "alkaline water" or "alkaline diets" are BS.mnhughes22 wrote: »I'm not a certified anything and I don't want to sound like a spokesperson here but, has anyone heard of the PH Balancer from Mother Earth Labs?
I had to deal with some medical issues that caused a lot of changes in my life. During all that, I also changed up my diet and some routines but I was still feeling a little sluggish and dealt with a lot of inflammationg and such. I went to see a dietician and they recommended the PH Balancer.
I won't lie, the liquid form is not in any way shape or form tasty, but it is potent. It's made with organic foods and herbs and minerals and such. It was amazingly helpful to me when I was going through everything and really helped fill in some of the gaps that I had from my diet and regular daily vitamins.
I'm not saying it's for everyone, but it's at least worth a look-see to check it out and talk it over with your doctor and/or nutritionist.
Just another way for companies to "scare" you and have them purchase products based on psuedoscience.
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I never took it because of the "PH" factor. My nutritionist recommended it because of the micronutrients in it and the way it helped with my inflammation. Also, I will totally accept the fact that it's not for everyone.
I also never thought of it as a quick fix to anything. I did a lot of changes to my diet and daily routines to build new healthy habits, this just helped fill in a few of the gaps. I will also admit that at the time they put me on this I was dealing with brain tumors (about golf ball size) that had basically killed my pituitary glad so, everything in my entire system was WAY outta whack. I didn't even know a product like this existed and I ONLY started taking it after consulting with both my doctor and my certified nutritionist.
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candylilacs wrote: »Do you know she's not? Again, not uncommon for people who embark on a diet to really not know what to eat. We get questions all the time here from people asking what they can eat on keto. And I didn't specify that keto was the only elimination diet. I just said it is. And while yes eliminating some foods in people diets will save them, eliminating too much can do the opposite.
I have been on a diet for most of my life. I read and I have advanced degrees. So, your pigeonholing of me, a dumb hick, is not correct. My day is a lot like this one. No, I haven't had lasagna every day of the week. Variety is the spice of life.
Breakfast: Matcha tea latte, two eggs scrambled with spinach, bell peppers, and cheese.
Lunch: Paninos, spinach salad with strawberries with a poppyseed dressing.
Dinner: 2 servings of lasagna in meat and vegetable sauce (spinach, squash, mushrooms)
Snack: Nuts, beef jerky, cheese, 365 Double-Feature trail mix
I take vitamins, water, or zero-calorie Gatorade.
I don't think anyone really said any of those things. All he said was it's not uncommon for people embarking on a diet to not know what exactly to eat. We see many people on here eating in ways that are... not what would generally be considered healthy, to say the least. Is that you? Maybe, maybe not. Only you get to decide that for yourself. They're trying to give general advice to someone they don't know who asked for advice. It's best not to take it personally. If you want personalized advice, I would recommend asking for advice from people who know you personally... or give detailed personal information when asking.1 -
What about minerals and other vitamins that aren't provided if you're only doing keto?
vitamin B1, vitamin B6, vitamin B7, vitamin B12, calcium, iron, magnesium, and phosphorus to name a few.
Also, are you saying that you'll never have over 25 grams of carbs in your diet daily with the exception of an indulge here and there. And how long have you been doing this?
I don’t take this personally? You do know this is personal, right? 🤭
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candylilacs wrote: »
What about minerals and other vitamins that aren't provided if you're only doing keto?
vitamin B1, vitamin B6, vitamin B7, vitamin B12, calcium, iron, magnesium, and phosphorus to name a few.
Also, are you saying that you'll never have over 25 grams of carbs in your diet daily with the exception of an indulge here and there. And how long have you been doing this?
I don’t take this personally? You do know this is personal, right? 🤭
No, I don't think it's personal. He's talking about the keto diet in general, not just you specifically. You can choose to take it personally, but does that really help you on any way?0 -
You know it is personal. Adieu!
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Never personal for me. I've been at this too long. It's just inquiry and hopefully others that read and may be doing elimination diets will make sure they are getting in enough nutrients daily.candylilacs wrote: »You know it is personal. Adieu!
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