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  • Minion_training_program
    Minion_training_program Posts: 13,440 Member
    cowsfan12 wrote: »
    cowsfan12 wrote: »
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    Are those lifting shoes with a slight incline or just running shoes - ?

    Just regular ol’ running shoes.

    I’m a bare footer as well - if I get lifiting shoes I’ll try the squat university dudes tyr brand with wide toe box - he’s a big advocate of the wide toe box - For overall balance and such if you haven’t checked him out on YouTube give him a look - he has some great content on form - how to identify pain in lifts and what not

    Oh please don't fund that guy anymore than some people already do.
    He is such a scammer and only sells his brand.

    I remember him saying, don't buy lifting shoes, they are a waste of money.
    2 weeks later, he came with the wide toe shoe thingy...yeah mate. You are just selling your own product here and give a *kitten* about people
  • kinetixtrainer2
    kinetixtrainer2 Posts: 9,286 Member
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    This looked like warmup for you man...damn!

    It didn’t feel like warm ups Gus. I’ll do dead squats upwards of 400lbs and box squats around 365lbs but I struggle with back squats. That was only 250 there. I was doing 3x5 but switched to 5x3 to try and maintain form and depth. 🤷‍♂️.

    Well it looked solid man

    I appreciate that Gus
  • cowsfan12
    cowsfan12 Posts: 6,170 Member
    cowsfan12 wrote: »
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    Are those lifting shoes with a slight incline or just running shoes - ?
    cowsfan12 wrote: »
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    Are those lifting shoes with a slight incline or just running shoes - ?

    Look like running shoes...You are braver than me Chris... I don't have lifting shoes, so i go barefoot on my squats and deadlifts since a year now

    I need to try this Gus. A lot of people swear by it. I have a pair of lifting shoes but I obviously don’t always wear them.

    Dude, you are going to love barefoot...so much more stability and you can really push up without worrying about the balance.
    I have never tried lifting shoes. Feels like a waste of money for me, knowing that barefoot gives same stability. But i understand that there are gyms that don't allow barefoot (even with socks)

    Lifting shoes are generally elevated at the heal which provides increased ankle mobility - some ppl use plates to elevate the heal - but for gyms that don’t allow barefoot this would be an alternative - limited ankle and hip mobility in your squat can be the root cause of pain in your lifts. I have to warm up my hips and ankles before squatting always - had no idea the game changer that was
  • Minion_training_program
    Minion_training_program Posts: 13,440 Member
    cowsfan12 wrote: »
    cowsfan12 wrote: »
    jyxpgsykxzpw.gif

    Are those lifting shoes with a slight incline or just running shoes - ?
    cowsfan12 wrote: »
    jyxpgsykxzpw.gif

    Are those lifting shoes with a slight incline or just running shoes - ?

    Look like running shoes...You are braver than me Chris... I don't have lifting shoes, so i go barefoot on my squats and deadlifts since a year now

    I need to try this Gus. A lot of people swear by it. I have a pair of lifting shoes but I obviously don’t always wear them.

    Dude, you are going to love barefoot...so much more stability and you can really push up without worrying about the balance.
    I have never tried lifting shoes. Feels like a waste of money for me, knowing that barefoot gives same stability. But i understand that there are gyms that don't allow barefoot (even with socks)

    Lifting shoes are generally elevated at the heal which provides increased ankle mobility - some ppl use plates to elevate the heal - but for gyms that don’t allow barefoot this would be an alternative - limited ankle and hip mobility in your squat can be the root cause of pain in your lifts. I have to warm up my hips and ankles before squatting always - had no idea the game changer that was

    Yeah, i understand the use of lifting shoes. But like i said, for me personally i think it would be a waste of money.

    I have pretty good ankle mobility, my main problem are my hips and long legs (compared to rest of my body), which prevents me from squatting deep. Even without weight, i can't squat below parallel, at least not without holding on to the squatrack, otherwise i tip over.

    I can also not squat with narrow stance. I tried to do that in the past, and i showed it to one of my friends on here, who is a PT as well. And he said, change your stance, go wide, toes out. And that was a huge game changer for me.

    This shows, there is no right or wrong when squatting, because for every person it works differently. Some people can go ATG, and some people struggle with parallel.

    No amount of warmup can change this for me (and i have tried) My stiff hip mobility (on left side) is something i was born with, but was not threated for (baby's now get some sort of pants to put on, to loosen it) and now i am paying the price (well not really, because i can still squat and do what i want) But you get the idea i think.
  • cowsfan12
    cowsfan12 Posts: 6,170 Member
    cowsfan12 wrote: »
    cowsfan12 wrote: »
    jyxpgsykxzpw.gif

    Are those lifting shoes with a slight incline or just running shoes - ?
    cowsfan12 wrote: »
    jyxpgsykxzpw.gif

    Are those lifting shoes with a slight incline or just running shoes - ?

    Look like running shoes...You are braver than me Chris... I don't have lifting shoes, so i go barefoot on my squats and deadlifts since a year now

    I need to try this Gus. A lot of people swear by it. I have a pair of lifting shoes but I obviously don’t always wear them.

    Dude, you are going to love barefoot...so much more stability and you can really push up without worrying about the balance.
    I have never tried lifting shoes. Feels like a waste of money for me, knowing that barefoot gives same stability. But i understand that there are gyms that don't allow barefoot (even with socks)

    Lifting shoes are generally elevated at the heal which provides increased ankle mobility - some ppl use plates to elevate the heal - but for gyms that don’t allow barefoot this would be an alternative - limited ankle and hip mobility in your squat can be the root cause of pain in your lifts. I have to warm up my hips and ankles before squatting always - had no idea the game changer that was

    Yeah, i understand the use of lifting shoes. But like i said, for me personally i think it would be a waste of money.

    I have pretty good ankle mobility, my main problem are my hips and long legs (compared to rest of my body), which prevents me from squatting deep. Even without weight, i can't squat below parallel, at least not without holding on to the squatrack, otherwise i tip over.

    I can also not squat with narrow stance. I tried to do that in the past, and i showed it to one of my friends on here, who is a PT as well. And he said, change your stance, go wide, toes out. And that was a huge game changer for me.

    This shows, there is no right or wrong when squatting, because for every person it works differently. Some people can go ATG, and some people struggle with parallel.

    No amount of warmup can change this for me (and i have tried) My stiff hip mobility (on left side) is something i was born with, but was not threated for (baby's now get some sort of pants to put on, to loosen it) and now i am paying the price (well not really, because i can still squat and do what i want) But you get the idea i think.

    Yup for sure - we can only squat based on our anatomy - I can’t get ATG - and usually just do box squats cause even with an elevated heal and warm up my right ankle won’t permit it - I myself am too cheap to buy lifting shoes cause I don’t think the juice is worth the squeeze - but for some it is - and I might try the squat university dudes just cause he’s my hero
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,073 Member
    I squat sumo, with feet wide apart; I can get WAY lower this way, and way heavier.

    My lifting shoe of choice is Chuck Taylor's, which has a non-compressible sole. Spent about $100, but my current pair has lasted almost a decade, figure I got my money's worth from them. Debating getting a new pair, old ones finally starting to fall apart, but I can probably keep using them for another year or so before it becomes an actual issue during a lift.
  • Minion_training_program
    Minion_training_program Posts: 13,440 Member
    edited November 2023
    nossmf wrote: »
    I squat sumo, with feet wide apart; I can get WAY lower this way, and way heavier.

    My lifting shoe of choice is Chuck Taylor's, which has a non-compressible sole. Spent about $100, but my current pair has lasted almost a decade, figure I got my money's worth from them. Debating getting a new pair, old ones finally starting to fall apart, but I can probably keep using them for another year or so before it becomes an actual issue during a lift.

    Sumo the only way for me to squat.
    I tried narrow stance, and it started to look like a good morning.
    I think for powerlifting the wide stance is more common, there may only be a few blessed people who can squat narrow stance with heavy weight like Tom Platz did.

    At age 68 he still squats 180kg for reps.
    Altough when last time i saw his video, he doesn't squat ATG anymore, but just below parallel, and wide stance as well. So if the Quadfather does it, so can we 😇

    On the lifting shoes, i have been thinking about getting them, untill someone mentioned the barefoot thing.
    So i asked in my gym if it was allowed to squat on socks, and they said, no problem. So that's what it is now
  • KickassAmazon76
    KickassAmazon76 Posts: 4,678 Member
    edited November 2023
    Late to the party... haven't been around on here much. Loved reading all the discussion. :) Great gifs @kinetixtrainer2 ! Great progression on your lifts @nossmf!

    I'll weigh in on the lifting shoes / vs runners / vs barefoot with a bunch of random thoughts. (If you care to read them haha)

    I cannot squat or deadlift in runners. Hard no. Even trying to do bulgarian split squats throws me off balance... The sponginess of the soles in my runners makes me wobbly and unstable and I feel like I lose my connection with the ground.

    I used to lift barefoot at home and that was fine, but I definitely prefer my adipower squat shoes. Con = the narrow toe box IS kind of uncomfy for my wide feet, but I cope with that for the rest of the pros.
    Pro: the foot is solid and the bottom has a grippy feel that means I can screw my feet into the ground when rotating / bracing my quads. In socks, my feet slip in them and I can't get as locked in as I do with the shoes. I wouldn't want to go barefoot (sockless) in the gym because dirty and even still, feet slip. The shoes are great.

    Also because the shoes don't have cushion in the soles, It feels like I'm a solid unit from the floor through to my shoulders. In all, I just feel more solid and locked in when I set up for my lift. I don't really notice the lifted heel in the shoe much, but I have decent ankle mobility (most days)

    Here's my last squat gif for reference...

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  • KickassAmazon76
    KickassAmazon76 Posts: 4,678 Member
    edited November 2023
    Also... I swear I'm going way below parallel when I do the squat, but upon review... I barely break it most times. 😑

    These are the last few in that set of 10...

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  • kinetixtrainer2
    kinetixtrainer2 Posts: 9,286 Member
    Late to the party... haven't been around on here much. Loved reading all the discussion. :) Great gifs @kinetixtrainer2 ! Great progression on your lifts @nossmf!

    I'll weigh in on the lifting shoes / vs runners / vs barefoot with a bunch of random thoughts. (If you care to read them haha)

    I cannot squat or deadlift in runners. Hard no. Even trying to do bulgarian split squats throws me off balance... The sponginess of the soles in my runners makes me wobbly and unstable and I feel like I lose my connection with the ground.

    I used to lift barefoot at home and that was fine, but I definitely prefer my adipower squat shoes. Con = the narrow toe box IS kind of uncomfy for my wide feet, but I cope with that for the rest of the pros.
    Pro: the foot is solid and the bottom has a grippy feel that means I can screw my feet into the ground when rotating / bracing my quads. In socks, my feet slip in them and I can't get as locked in as I do with the shoes. I wouldn't want to go barefoot (sockless) in the gym because dirty and even still, feet slip. The shoes are great.

    Also because the shoes don't have cushion in the soles, It feels like I'm a solid unit from the floor through to my shoulders. In all, I just feel more solid and locked in when I set up for my lift. I don't really notice the lifted heel in the shoe much, but I have decent ankle mobility (most days)

    Here's my last squat gif for reference...

    jfltnub5psdi.gif

    Nice contribution to that discussion. I will be trying this barefoot squat. I’ll report back.
  • Minion_training_program
    Minion_training_program Posts: 13,440 Member
    Late to the party... haven't been around on here much. Loved reading all the discussion. :) Great gifs @kinetixtrainer2 ! Great progression on your lifts @nossmf!

    I'll weigh in on the lifting shoes / vs runners / vs barefoot with a bunch of random thoughts. (If you care to read them haha)

    I cannot squat or deadlift in runners. Hard no. Even trying to do bulgarian split squats throws me off balance... The sponginess of the soles in my runners makes me wobbly and unstable and I feel like I lose my connection with the ground.

    I used to lift barefoot at home and that was fine, but I definitely prefer my adipower squat shoes. Con = the narrow toe box IS kind of uncomfy for my wide feet, but I cope with that for the rest of the pros.
    Pro: the foot is solid and the bottom has a grippy feel that means I can screw my feet into the ground when rotating / bracing my quads. In socks, my feet slip in them and I can't get as locked in as I do with the shoes. I wouldn't want to go barefoot (sockless) in the gym because dirty and even still, feet slip. The shoes are great.

    Also because the shoes don't have cushion in the soles, It feels like I'm a solid unit from the floor through to my shoulders. In all, I just feel more solid and locked in when I set up for my lift. I don't really notice the lifted heel in the shoe much, but I have decent ankle mobility (most days)

    Here's my last squat gif for reference...

    jfltnub5psdi.gif

    Are those black thing actually shoes. they look like socks...awesome!
    The narrow toe box is something that holds me back from getting lifting shoes.
    I have wide, very wide feet. I can't even wear Nikes/Addidas shoes because of it, and i have tried even the wide versions of them

    PS Sandy that squat looks so solid and with good depth
  • steveko89
    steveko89 Posts: 2,223 Member
    RE: Shoes

    - Chucks have too narrow of a toe box for me (maybe in general, tbh?)
    - Had a pair of Adipowers, maybe they were the wrong size, but felt they were too narrow, too and I'd get midfoot cramping.
    - Really liked the original lifting cross-trainers that Under Armour put out but the style had shifted some over the years against my liking.
    - Recently I've found good success and comfort with the Reebok Nano line. Had a pair of Xs, currently running X1s and there's a pair of X3s on my Christmas list.
    - Unsure if it's an age thing or the fact I scarcely wore shoes spring of '20 when working from home full time but I've needed to size up or get wides since then.
  • KickassAmazon76
    KickassAmazon76 Posts: 4,678 Member
    Late to the party... haven't been around on here much. Loved reading all the discussion. :) Great gifs @kinetixtrainer2 ! Great progression on your lifts @nossmf!

    I'll weigh in on the lifting shoes / vs runners / vs barefoot with a bunch of random thoughts. (If you care to read them haha)

    I cannot squat or deadlift in runners. Hard no. Even trying to do bulgarian split squats throws me off balance... The sponginess of the soles in my runners makes me wobbly and unstable and I feel like I lose my connection with the ground.

    I used to lift barefoot at home and that was fine, but I definitely prefer my adipower squat shoes. Con = the narrow toe box IS kind of uncomfy for my wide feet, but I cope with that for the rest of the pros.
    Pro: the foot is solid and the bottom has a grippy feel that means I can screw my feet into the ground when rotating / bracing my quads. In socks, my feet slip in them and I can't get as locked in as I do with the shoes. I wouldn't want to go barefoot (sockless) in the gym because dirty and even still, feet slip. The shoes are great.

    Also because the shoes don't have cushion in the soles, It feels like I'm a solid unit from the floor through to my shoulders. In all, I just feel more solid and locked in when I set up for my lift. I don't really notice the lifted heel in the shoe much, but I have decent ankle mobility (most days)

    Here's my last squat gif for reference...

    jfltnub5psdi.gif

    Are those black thing actually shoes. they look like socks...awesome!
    The narrow toe box is something that holds me back from getting lifting shoes.
    I have wide, very wide feet. I can't even wear Nikes/Addidas shoes because of it, and i have tried even the wide versions of them

    PS Sandy that squat looks so solid and with good depth

    lol no.. the black things were my socks. I use those on the leg press. My squat shoes are the red ones and I use them for bench and squat. :)

    I know you are kind of cranky with squat university, but they are the only place that I've heard that does wide foot squat shoes. Everything else seems to be narrow.

    And thank you for the form compliment! :smiley:
  • KickassAmazon76
    KickassAmazon76 Posts: 4,678 Member
    steveko89 wrote: »
    RE: Shoes

    - Chucks have too narrow of a toe box for me (maybe in general, tbh?)
    - Had a pair of Adipowers, maybe they were the wrong size, but felt they were too narrow, too and I'd get midfoot cramping.
    - Really liked the original lifting cross-trainers that Under Armour put out but the style had shifted some over the years against my liking.
    - Recently I've found good success and comfort with the Reebok Nano line. Had a pair of Xs, currently running X1s and there's a pair of X3s on my Christmas list.
    - Unsure if it's an age thing or the fact I scarcely wore shoes spring of '20 when working from home full time but I've needed to size up or get wides since then.

    I actually think that going barefoot so much (because we were in lockdown and working from home) has allowed our feet to spread more and be more like they're "supposed" to be. Mine are also wider, because I haven't been cramming them into shoes that are built for aesthetic and not fit.

    I think it's much healthier for my feet, even if it means I hate wearing heels now.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,073 Member
    On the advice of @kinetixtrainer2 I increased my bench press weight another 10#, figured I'd go back down if I got stuck at 3 reps for any one set. But I didn't, I got 4-4-4-4-6 (with spotter last set), so was pretty stoked for the rest of the workout.

    Over the weekend watching TV with my wife, at one point a character took off his shirt and his fellow male characters went gaga over his washboard abs (on an otherwise unassuming physique). My wife started talking about how women never find that attractive, how guys want big muscles and 6-pack abs only for themselves, women couldn't care less. I've known for years I was getting fit for my sake and not hers, but now that I'm part of this group, gotta wonder...is that true? Do women simply not care for that muscular look guys crave? Sure, when looking for a potential spouse I can believe women look for other attributes instead, but is it only in movies where that super physique turns a woman's head, or does it happen in real life as well?
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,679 Member
    @nossmf

    Depends on the woman. I always agreed with Jessica Rabbit, “because he makes me laugh”.

    But then again, not being a beauty or particularly fit myself, I didn’t have expectations of landing someone buff, but that also meant not having the exhaustion of worrying about what he was up to, either.

    “Buff” was never on my must-have list, and tbh, would probably have been on my keep-lookin’-elsewhere tot sheet.
  • kinetixtrainer2
    kinetixtrainer2 Posts: 9,286 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    On the advice of @kinetixtrainer2 I increased my bench press weight another 10#, figured I'd go back down if I got stuck at 3 reps for any one set. But I didn't, I got 4-4-4-4-6 (with spotter last set), so was pretty stoked for the rest of the workout.

    Over the weekend watching TV with my wife, at one point a character took off his shirt and his fellow male characters went gaga over his washboard abs (on an otherwise unassuming physique). My wife started talking about how women never find that attractive, how guys want big muscles and 6-pack abs only for themselves, women couldn't care less. I've known for years I was getting fit for my sake and not hers, but now that I'm part of this group, gotta wonder...is that true? Do women simply not care for that muscular look guys crave? Sure, when looking for a potential spouse I can believe women look for other attributes instead, but is it only in movies where that super physique turns a woman's head, or does it happen in real life as well?

    Brother that is awesome! Congrats on the new number.

  • KickassAmazon76
    KickassAmazon76 Posts: 4,678 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    On the advice of @kinetixtrainer2 I increased my bench press weight another 10#, figured I'd go back down if I got stuck at 3 reps for any one set. But I didn't, I got 4-4-4-4-6 (with spotter last set), so was pretty stoked for the rest of the workout.

    Over the weekend watching TV with my wife, at one point a character took off his shirt and his fellow male characters went gaga over his washboard abs (on an otherwise unassuming physique). My wife started talking about how women never find that attractive, how guys want big muscles and 6-pack abs only for themselves, women couldn't care less. I've known for years I was getting fit for my sake and not hers, but now that I'm part of this group, gotta wonder...is that true? Do women simply not care for that muscular look guys crave? Sure, when looking for a potential spouse I can believe women look for other attributes instead, but is it only in movies where that super physique turns a woman's head, or does it happen in real life as well?

    Does it turn my head, hell yes. Have I ever dated someone with a physique that perfect? No. It's not that much of a priority for me to seek it out. The guy I am dating is tall and strong, but has a definite dad bod. I find him incredibly attractive because of who he is.

    So.. head turn? YES. Must have? NO. Have I ever wished to play with a physique like that? MOST DEFINITELY. Wll I ever get that opportunity? Not likely. LOL

    I feel what you're saying though. I have extra fluff again and feel so blech. Wish I was ripped and low body fat (but not enough to live that restricted lifestyle again). My guy says he thinks I'm great as I am, but I can't help but think I'd be greater if I was more fit.

    Last note: when I was ripped and had an 8 pack... I dated a guy who ended up breaking up with me because he couldn't handle being "the fat one in the relationship" - his words not mine. He wanted someone "softer" and "less muscular". Go figure.


  • Brigit_1
    Brigit_1 Posts: 209 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    My wife started talking about how women never find that attractive, how guys want big muscles and 6-pack abs only for themselves, women couldn't care less.

    I don't agree with your wife. When I was dating how a man looked "over-all" was very important. He didn't have to have 6-pack abs but it sure helped. 😀🏋️‍♀️🇺🇸
  • kinetixtrainer2
    kinetixtrainer2 Posts: 9,286 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    On the advice of @kinetixtrainer2 I increased my bench press weight another 10#, figured I'd go back down if I got stuck at 3 reps for any one set. But I didn't, I got 4-4-4-4-6 (with spotter last set), so was pretty stoked for the rest of the workout.

    Over the weekend watching TV with my wife, at one point a character took off his shirt and his fellow male characters went gaga over his washboard abs (on an otherwise unassuming physique). My wife started talking about how women never find that attractive, how guys want big muscles and 6-pack abs only for themselves, women couldn't care less. I've known for years I was getting fit for my sake and not hers, but now that I'm part of this group, gotta wonder...is that true? Do women simply not care for that muscular look guys crave? Sure, when looking for a potential spouse I can believe women look for other attributes instead, but is it only in movies where that super physique turns a woman's head, or does it happen in real life as well?

    Does it turn my head, hell yes. Have I ever dated someone with a physique that perfect? No. It's not that much of a priority for me to seek it out. The guy I am dating is tall and strong, but has a definite dad bod. I find him incredibly attractive because of who he is.

    So.. head turn? YES. Must have? NO. Have I ever wished to play with a physique like that? MOST DEFINITELY. Wll I ever get that opportunity? Not likely. LOL

    I feel what you're saying though. I have extra fluff again and feel so blech. Wish I was ripped and low body fat (but not enough to live that restricted lifestyle again). My guy says he thinks I'm great as I am, but I can't help but think I'd be greater if I was more fit.

    Last note: when I was ripped and had an 8 pack... I dated a guy who ended up breaking up with me because he couldn't handle being "the fat one in the relationship" - his words not mine. He wanted someone "softer" and "less muscular". Go figure.


    Great thoughts
  • itchmyTwitch
    itchmyTwitch Posts: 4,019 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    On the advice of @kinetixtrainer2 I increased my bench press weight another 10#, figured I'd go back down if I got stuck at 3 reps for any one set. But I didn't, I got 4-4-4-4-6 (with spotter last set), so was pretty stoked for the rest of the workout.

    Over the weekend watching TV with my wife, at one point a character took off his shirt and his fellow male characters went gaga over his washboard abs (on an otherwise unassuming physique). My wife started talking about how women never find that attractive, how guys want big muscles and 6-pack abs only for themselves, women couldn't care less. I've known for years I was getting fit for my sake and not hers, but now that I'm part of this group, gotta wonder...is that true? Do women simply not care for that muscular look guys crave? Sure, when looking for a potential spouse I can believe women look for other attributes instead, but is it only in movies where that super physique turns a woman's head, or does it happen in real life as well?

    Does it turn my head, hell yes. Have I ever dated someone with a physique that perfect? No. It's not that much of a priority for me to seek it out. The guy I am dating is tall and strong, but has a definite dad bod. I find him incredibly attractive because of who he is.

    So.. head turn? YES. Must have? NO. Have I ever wished to play with a physique like that? MOST DEFINITELY. Wll I ever get that opportunity? Not likely. LOL

    I feel what you're saying though. I have extra fluff again and feel so blech. Wish I was ripped and low body fat (but not enough to live that restricted lifestyle again). My guy says he thinks I'm great as I am, but I can't help but think I'd be greater if I was more fit.

    Last note: when I was ripped and had an 8 pack... I dated a guy who ended up breaking up with me because he couldn't handle being "the fat one in the relationship" - his words not mine. He wanted someone "softer" and "less muscular". Go figure.


    feels like a bucket list item to me
  • 95km90
    95km90 Posts: 47 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    On the advice of @kinetixtrainer2 I increased my bench press weight another 10#, figured I'd go back down if I got stuck at 3 reps for any one set. But I didn't, I got 4-4-4-4-6 (with spotter last set), so was pretty stoked for the rest of the workout.

    Over the weekend watching TV with my wife, at one point a character took off his shirt and his fellow male characters went gaga over his washboard abs (on an otherwise unassuming physique). My wife started talking about how women never find that attractive, how guys want big muscles and 6-pack abs only for themselves, women couldn't care less. I've known for years I was getting fit for my sake and not hers, but now that I'm part of this group, gotta wonder...is that true? Do women simply not care for that muscular look guys crave? Sure, when looking for a potential spouse I can believe women look for other attributes instead, but is it only in movies where that super physique turns a woman's head, or does it happen in real life as well?


    I feel like it’s nice seeing someone take care of themselves is what it comes down to in the end that’s also why imo is attractive.

  • Minion_training_program
    Minion_training_program Posts: 13,440 Member
    steveko89 wrote: »
    RE: Shoes

    - Chucks have too narrow of a toe box for me (maybe in general, tbh?)
    - Had a pair of Adipowers, maybe they were the wrong size, but felt they were too narrow, too and I'd get midfoot cramping.
    - Really liked the original lifting cross-trainers that Under Armour put out but the style had shifted some over the years against my liking.
    - Recently I've found good success and comfort with the Reebok Nano line. Had a pair of Xs, currently running X1s and there's a pair of X3s on my Christmas list.
    - Unsure if it's an age thing or the fact I scarcely wore shoes spring of '20 when working from home full time but I've needed to size up or get wides since then.

    I looked these shoes up, are they really wide? They look narrow
    Maybe i should just give it a try
  • Minion_training_program
    Minion_training_program Posts: 13,440 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    On the advice of @kinetixtrainer2 I increased my bench press weight another 10#, figured I'd go back down if I got stuck at 3 reps for any one set. But I didn't, I got 4-4-4-4-6 (with spotter last set), so was pretty stoked for the rest of the workout.

    Over the weekend watching TV with my wife, at one point a character took off his shirt and his fellow male characters went gaga over his washboard abs (on an otherwise unassuming physique). My wife started talking about how women never find that attractive, how guys want big muscles and 6-pack abs only for themselves, women couldn't care less. I've known for years I was getting fit for my sake and not hers, but now that I'm part of this group, gotta wonder...is that true? Do women simply not care for that muscular look guys crave? Sure, when looking for a potential spouse I can believe women look for other attributes instead, but is it only in movies where that super physique turns a woman's head, or does it happen in real life as well?

    Congrats on the increased weight Mike, you are doing awesome!

    About the body type thing.
    I think it really depends on the woman and age as well.

    Woman in their early 20's are more likely to look for a men with a great physique compared to woman in their late 30's early 40's i think. I think that is part of our DNA as well and has been like that since beginning of mankind.

    I have never had visible abs, have always been the big fluffy guy, so i think that would not attract a super fit girl either, you'd probably "fish in your own pond"

    With today's society, and all the social media, it does have made sort of a switch, especially for the younger people (under 25) who do workout more because they are influenced by socials.

    I mean, when i grew up you had like Arnold who was worldwide known, and a few others. So you thouhgt they were unique, but you didn't know as much about it as today. It basically gets now shoved in your face. You see fit people on the socials everywhere (altough you still have to be following fit people to get it in your algorhytm)

    I like someone for who they are. I have dated a model in the past, but her personality was definatly not matching mine, so we broke up eventually, even though friends of mine thought i was insane of letting her go.

    When i met my wife i was 125kg and she fell for me, for who i am. She herself is no lightweight either, but to me, looks have never mattered when it comes to a partner.
    My wife likes a bit of fluff on me.

    The working out part is definatly for me, not her
  • itchmyTwitch
    itchmyTwitch Posts: 4,019 Member
    edited November 2023
    nossmf wrote: »
    On the advice of @kinetixtrainer2 I increased my bench press weight another 10#, figured I'd go back down if I got stuck at 3 reps for any one set. But I didn't, I got 4-4-4-4-6 (with spotter last set), so was pretty stoked for the rest of the workout.

    Over the weekend watching TV with my wife, at one point a character took off his shirt and his fellow male characters went gaga over his washboard abs (on an otherwise unassuming physique). My wife started talking about how women never find that attractive, how guys want big muscles and 6-pack abs only for themselves, women couldn't care less. I've known for years I was getting fit for my sake and not hers, but now that I'm part of this group, gotta wonder...is that true? Do women simply not care for that muscular look guys crave? Sure, when looking for a potential spouse I can believe women look for other attributes instead, but is it only in movies where that super physique turns a woman's head, or does it happen in real life as well?

    Congrats on the increased weight Mike, you are doing awesome!

    About the body type thing.
    I think it really depends on the woman and age as well.

    Woman in their early 20's are more likely to look for a men with a great physique compared to woman in their late 30's early 40's i think. I think that is part of our DNA as well and has been like that since beginning of mankind.

    I have never had visible abs, have always been the big fluffy guy, so i think that would not attract a super fit girl either, you'd probably "fish in your own pond"

    With today's society, and all the social media, it does have made sort of a switch, especially for the younger people (under 25) who do workout more because they are influenced by socials.

    I mean, when i grew up you had like Arnold who was worldwide known, and a few others. So you thouhgt they were unique, but you didn't know as much about it as today. It basically gets now shoved in your face. You see fit people on the socials everywhere (altough you still have to be following fit people to get it in your algorhytm)

    I like someone for who they are. I have dated a model in the past, but her personality was definatly not matching mine, so we broke up eventually, even though friends of mine thought i was insane of letting her go.

    When i met my wife i was 125kg and she fell for me, for who i am. She herself is no lightweight either, but to me, looks have never mattered when it comes to a partner.
    My wife likes a bit of fluff on me.

    The working out part is definatly for me, not her

    IMO that’s as it should be.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,073 Member
    PSA time:

    Normally I'm fanatical about getting sufficient warmup sets in before lifting heavy, at least on the first exercise of the day. But for some reason I cannot explain, when I swapped from deadlifts to rack pulls, I cut out a few warmup sets. Still did three warmups, at 25%, 50%, and 75% before my first 5x5 pull, but in back-to-back weeks I really had to grind through the first two sets before hitting my groove and being fine for sets 3-5.

    Fact the later sets were easier clued me in that my body wasn't ready for the first couple sets, it wasn't an issue of lifting too heavy. So today I added two more warmup sets (62.5% and 87.5%) for a total of five before my first working set.

    This small change made a HUGE difference. From the very first working set the weight was flying up, no grind at all. Even debated adding weight, things felt that good. (I didn't...yet...but may in coming weeks.)

    Moral of the story is to ensure you have adequate warmup, and be willing to add more if you need.
  • kinetixtrainer2
    kinetixtrainer2 Posts: 9,286 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    PSA time:

    Normally I'm fanatical about getting sufficient warmup sets in before lifting heavy, at least on the first exercise of the day. But for some reason I cannot explain, when I swapped from deadlifts to rack pulls, I cut out a few warmup sets. Still did three warmups, at 25%, 50%, and 75% before my first 5x5 pull, but in back-to-back weeks I really had to grind through the first two sets before hitting my groove and being fine for sets 3-5.

    Fact the later sets were easier clued me in that my body wasn't ready for the first couple sets, it wasn't an issue of lifting too heavy. So today I added two more warmup sets (62.5% and 87.5%) for a total of five before my first working set.

    This small change made a HUGE difference. From the very first working set the weight was flying up, no grind at all. Even debated adding weight, things felt that good. (I didn't...yet...but may in coming weeks.)

    Moral of the story is to ensure you have adequate warmup, and be willing to add more if you need.

    Amen brother,

    I spend about 15 min stretching and shoulder mobility exercises before every workout. Light. Bis and tris to warm the elbows and then 4 to 5 warm up sets before my first compound lift. Makes life so much easier and those first heavy sets much more effective IMO
  • Minion_training_program
    Minion_training_program Posts: 13,440 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    PSA time:

    Normally I'm fanatical about getting sufficient warmup sets in before lifting heavy, at least on the first exercise of the day. But for some reason I cannot explain, when I swapped from deadlifts to rack pulls, I cut out a few warmup sets. Still did three warmups, at 25%, 50%, and 75% before my first 5x5 pull, but in back-to-back weeks I really had to grind through the first two sets before hitting my groove and being fine for sets 3-5.

    Fact the later sets were easier clued me in that my body wasn't ready for the first couple sets, it wasn't an issue of lifting too heavy. So today I added two more warmup sets (62.5% and 87.5%) for a total of five before my first working set.

    This small change made a HUGE difference. From the very first working set the weight was flying up, no grind at all. Even debated adding weight, things felt that good. (I didn't...yet...but may in coming weeks.)

    Moral of the story is to ensure you have adequate warmup, and be willing to add more if you need.

    YEP!
    I do about 3-4 warmup sets before working sets. Depending on what % i am working at
    When i do this mesocycle program. The first week starts with 70%. So i start warmup with just the bar, then 25% then 50%. But when i am working towards the end of the cycle and work at 90 or 95% i add another 1 or 2 warmup sets
  • steveko89
    steveko89 Posts: 2,223 Member
    RE: Physique Preferences
    I've been married for 10 years, and together since '09. Neither one of us have ever really been overweight throughout the relationship (something we discussed we wanted to hold each other accountable to, if it ever came up, for health and longevity). When we got married in '13 I was ~158 lbs at 6'1" and had scarcely touched a barbell. I was half-assing p90X type stuff with dumbbells and played some sports growing up but hardly looked like an athlete; pretty average, would probably have been described as lanky or skinny by most standards. I started lifting on a variety of sensible programs in 2015 and have added noticeable muscle in that time. By various methods I was ~18-20% body fat when I started and now stay consistently around 12%, bouncing between ~170-185 depending on the season. I will say I'm sure my wife definitely prefers my current aesthetic to how I looked before lifting, but what's hard to parse is that I certainly do and that's significantly changed my self-perception and improved my confidence. Undoubtedly, that too drives attraction, aside from the fact we both consider each other to be a best friend in addition to being a spouse and partner.

    @Minion_training_program - I've been sized as a 10.5W but the Nanos have been hard to find in wide sizes so I go up to an 11 and haven't had any issues.

    RE: Warm-ups
    Anyone who's seen my post history knows I'm an RP stan, Isratel's stance has long been that the best warm-up for a lift is the actual lift itself, providing the physiological, psychological, and neurological benefits and primers in one shot.

  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,073 Member
    The first week starts with 70%. So i start warmup with just the bar, then 25% then 50%. But when i am working towards the end of the cycle and work at 90 or 95% i add another 1 or 2 warmup sets

    Want to make sure I'm not being misunderstood: when I said 25%, 50% etc I was referring to 25% of first working set, not 25% of 1RM.