At what price do we eat meat?
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When people say they were unhealthy, anaemic, had vit B12 deficiency (seriously? I have NEVER heard of that one anywhere but here, and I know many many vegetarians), it is clear they just weren't doing it very well. If you eat junk, you'll be unhealthy. Doesn't matter if that junk is vegan or not. If you eat healthily, you won't get deficiencies. The fact hat most vegans manage perfectly fine and are in fact of above average health pretty much clinches that one.
I thought I made it pretty clear that I wasn't paying attention at all to what I was eating. As a sophomore in high school I don't think I had a clue what was going on xD
You can still get deficiencies eating healthy. If you track your food it can help to show you what you are lacking and what to fix, but if not then it can be hard to see what your diet actually looks like. Low potassium and low iron is not uncommon at all0 -
I also got some boneless skinless chicken breasts for $1.79 a pound last night!
I got a good deal on chicken the other night as well. The price I pay for meat really depends on what sales are going on at the stores. I love meat!$8.99/lb is about the price for meat.
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I think it's great we have both meat eaters and vegetarians. If everyone was vegetarian, we'd put a huge strain on the soil in which we grow things to produce all of this vegetarian food. If everyone were meat eaters, we'd put a huge strain on the animal population to sustain us. With a mix, things can be a little more balanced out.
Sometimes eating meat is a good thing. When we have to cull a type of prolific animal (such as deer and wild hogs) so that they don't become too overpopulated, bringing disease and destruction, isn't it better to eat what we kill rather than let it rot on the side of the road? I think so.
There is already a huge strain on the soil to grow the plants to feed the animals we eat!0 -
You think Food Inc is bad? Try Earthlings. Hope you have a strong stomach
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I don't care if you are carnivores, omnivores, vegan, vegetarian, omnomnom-igan, but I get pissed of at anyone who's self-righteous about being so.
I have not seen the movie, and I really don't care if I do or not. I don't approve of the practices of SOME of our food producers in this country. I'm not going to stop eating meat because of it. Growing up in a farm community you realize that most farmers are NOT cruel to their cattle. If you hate it that much there are some places you can go to and get an entire side of beef the farmer butchers himself. You can see the type of environment they live in etc etc before hand if it makes you feel better.
I personally prefer to buy my meat from a local butcher whose practices I know, or from an organic market with field grass-fed beef.
On a side note of documentaries, these movies are made to show you ONE side. The director's point of view only. Before you really get up in arms about any documentary make sure you do research on all sides. This is just my opinion of all opinion-based media in general.
Side, side note...Why do there seem to be an influx of Veggie vs Meat threads about? O.o0 -
As to the Biblical right to eat meat, the Genesis quote is this:
Genesis 1:29
"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; TO YOU IT SHALL BE FOR MEAT."
There are verses in the Bible which pertain more to eating meat, but is this the Genesis verse ya'll were referring to? Because if it was, then THIS VERSE says to me that we are intended to eat plants.
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Food Inc isn't even that bad. Try watching Earthlings sometime. I didn't even make it through the trailer.
Oh, and about that local family farm, except for chickens, those animals have to be slaughtered in a slaughterhouse, not on the pretty farm you may be imagining.
Sorry, but the meat I get is slaughtered in the basement of the farmers home.0 -
So little Cody is becoming a vegetarian too then?0
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You think governors and senaters and the president eats the kind of meats we do? Haha doubt it..
Back when he was the Senate Majority Leader, I used to see Bill Frist in the Chipotle here in DC, so I'm pretty sure he and I ate the same kinds of meats on a semi-regular basis.0 -
I don't care if you are carnivores, omnivores, vegan, vegetarian, omnomnom-igan, but I get pissed of at anyone who's self-righteous about being so.
I have not seen the movie, and I really don't care if I do or not. I don't approve of the practices of SOME of our food producers in this country. I'm not going to stop eating meat because of it. Growing up in a farm community you realize that most farmers are NOT cruel to their cattle. If you hate it that much there are some places you can go to and get an entire side of beef the farmer butchers himself. You can see the type of environment they live in etc etc before hand if it makes you feel better.
I personally prefer to buy my meat from a local butcher whose practices I know, or from an organic market with field grass-fed beef.
On a side note of documentaries, these movies are made to show you ONE side. The director's point of view only. Before you really get up in arms about any documentary make sure you do research on all sides. This is just my opinion of all opinion-based media in general.
I just want to say, you are awesome. This is 100% how I feel.0 -
I really want to eat this right now
It's all just a matter of opinion, you eat your way and I’ll eat mine!! However it is my god given right to eat meat. No need for anyone’s underwear to get in a bunch!
Some countries still eat dog, (while I could never do that) it is all just a matter of opinion:)0 -
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Side, side note...Why do there seem to be an influx of Veggie vs Meat threads about? O.o
We are upping the offensive.0 -
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$8.99/lb is about the price for meat.
I got a good deal on chicken the other night as well. The price I pay for meat really depends on what sales are going on at the stores. I love meat!
However, if you bought said Chicken at a regular grocery store, you are supporting the likes of Tyson, Perdue and Cargill.
They are factory farmers that are abusive and out right barbaric to the animal before it is slaughtered.
Those animals live and die in fear and that is transferred over to us in their organs and muscle, which is what we eat.0 -
I think "meat eaters" get all up in arms about vegetarians because most of the ones we come across are self righteous and judgmental about my choice to eat meat. Vegetarians seem to think that they are making the "better" decision and look down on neanderthals like me who still eat meat. That is what gets me annoyed. I have a family member who is a vegetarian (vegan) and he is so obnoxious and thinks he is so much more enlightened than the rest of us.
I don't care what you want to eat. Just let me eat my food the way I want to...it's called freedom.0 -
So little Cody is becoming a vegetarian too then?
THEY can eat each other, but WE can't dare assume we're important enough in the food chain to eat them, too. Try to keep up!0 -
No, they eat unicorn meat. Either way, who cares what they eat?You think governors and senaters and the president eats the kind of meats we do? Haha doubt it..0 -
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As to the Biblical right to eat meat, the Genesis quote is this:
Genesis 1:29
"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; TO YOU IT SHALL BE FOR MEAT."
There are verses in the Bible which pertain more to eating meat, but is this the Genesis verse ya'll were referring to? Because if it was, then THIS VERSE says to me that we are intended to eat plants.
I'm about to have to be out of here for a while, but I have noticed several references to "God given right" to eat meat, and on that note, I'd like to invite those who feel that way to state the Bible verses to back that up. And I'm not saying they aren't there, because I do think there are verses in the Bible to support that position. I'd just like to see if the folks who are calling it a God-given right can tell us where they are. 0 -
If you actually watch the movie it isn't just about the meat industry it's about the food industry in general. Even the farmers who harvest corn and other vegetables are victims of these large corporations. Farmers who planted soy beans were driven into debt when that company (don't remember the name) put a patent on modified soybean seeds forbidding them to save their seeds for the next year and then bankrupting them with legal fees. Not to mention all the GMO foods in the grocery stores today where tomatoes and other produce are ripened with gases.
Yes it's terrible the way these corporations treat not just animals but also their workers and it's a real eye opener to watch but if you really want to make a difference, vegetarian or meat-eater buy your food from local farmers.0 -
:huh:Those animals live and die in fear and that is transferred over to us in their organs and muscle, which is what we eat.0 -
I don't care if you are carnivores, omnivores, vegan, vegetarian, omnomnom-igan, but I get pissed of at anyone who's self-righteous about being so.
I have not seen the movie, and I really don't care if I do or not. I don't approve of the practices of SOME of our food producers in this country. I'm not going to stop eating meat because of it. Growing up in a farm community you realize that most farmers are NOT cruel to their cattle. If you hate it that much there are some places you can go to and get an entire side of beef the farmer butchers himself. You can see the type of environment they live in etc etc before hand if it makes you feel better.
I personally prefer to buy my meat from a local butcher whose practices I know, or from an organic market with field grass-fed beef.
On a side note of documentaries, these movies are made to show you ONE side. The director's point of view only. Before you really get up in arms about any documentary make sure you do research on all sides. This is just my opinion of all opinion-based media in general.
I just want to say, you are awesome. This is 100% how I feel.
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tried to and i couldnt i love meat and im not a vegan but this was just to much0
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tried to and i couldnt i love meat and im not a vegan but this was just to much0
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The last Netflix show I "watched" was FOOD INC. I challenge all carnivores to watch that show for more than 5 - 10 minutes. I could not.
A very sad tribute to our food industries such as McDonalds and others.
I was headed towards plant based foods anyway, but although I love the taste of meat, I look at my 4 legged buddy Cody and can't help but think that all animals given the opportunity have charm and personality, like he does. I just don't think it is right to eat animals. Not when plants can sustain us. Dr. Fuhrman and his Eat To Live book. That cinches the deal for me.
I absolutely do not agree with this. We are not carnivores-we're omnivores. We are meant to eat both meat and vegetables. Granted there are some really horrible things that go on in the meat industry but that does not mean we all need to stop eating it. It's part of the food chain and it's natural. This is just my personal opinion.
well said tunk
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[I only eat farm raised, pastured meats, eggs and raw dairy. My fruits and vegetables come from a local CSA and a Coop and they have yummy farm raised meats also.
It is natural for us as Omnivores to eat both plants and animals. We need the nutrients that come from both places, not taking pill formed supplements to replace what we are not getting.
Ditto. I've visited the farms, know the farmers and know the animals are treated well.0 -
Imagine wild animals and how they eat.
Meat eaters =
Plant eaters =
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I've seen Food Inc. I watched all of it. I'm also very much so a meat eater and an animal lover. The way I deal with this is to eat, as often as possible, local meats or kosher/halal meats. It's not easy to get these things, but with a little effort we can.
Human beings are omnivores. This means that we are designed to eat both meat and plants. The fact that an animal has to die in order for me to live is not a problem for me. It is the circle of life. I am no more upset by eating meat than I am by seeing a lion kill and eat his prey. At the end of the day, we human being are animals as well. We live off the land. I'm comfortable with that.
This. All of this.
Although an addition for me: I don't disassociate between animals and the effort to "turn" it into food.0
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