weight loss without drinking water?

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  • Another approach is having a certain amount of oz to drink every hour. An 8oz glass is not that big. Fill it up and tell yourself to finish one an hour. By the end of work you can have all your h2o in. It is a little less daunting than carting around a huge jug. After you get used to it, you will crave water.

    now i like that idea. i think that would work better for me just to drink a glass or two a day for starters. but it has to be ice cold with ice. since i'm retired tomorrow i'm gonna start off alternating (because i drink a lot of milk or tea) a large glass of iced water between every other drink i drink. then i can look forward to my next glass of juice, tea or 1% milk. thanx for the suggestion. then i can pan it out over the whole day.
  • amuchison
    amuchison Posts: 274 Member
    This is a post I wrote a few weeks ago it may.enlighten u on the importance of drinking water;)

    Think of this some interesting facts I read today your body releases about 12 cups of water a day..2c through perspiration,6c through urine,2-4c through breathing and nearly one cup through the soles of your feet and in high or dry environments you lose even more!! Drinking at least 8 glasses of water a day is essential to your bodily functions do u want your organs functioning in dirty water...Ewwwwww!! This is what happens when u don't get enough so Drink up!!;)

    Some of the benefits of drinking water
    1. It's calorie free but helps u stay full n satisfied
    2. It keeps you from overeating. Studies have shown that when we feel hungry 30% of the time our bodies r actually signaling for water
    3. It removes toxins and preservatives from your cells
    4. It prevents dehydration as your body eliminates excess salt and water from a diet of too much processed food
    5. It minimizes and or eliminates fatigue,lack of energy,headaches,and unclear thinking
    6. It speeds up metabolism. A recent study showed that drinking 2-8oz glasses of water increased metabolic rate by 30% for 90 minutes.
    7. It helps your liver convert get to energy
    8. It compensates for the loss of glycogen stores as you lose weight AND THE MOST IMPORTANT: IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO DRINK TOO MUCH WATER UNLESS U HAVE A SPECIFIC MEDICAL CONDITION THAT REQUIRES U TO RESTRICT YOUR FLUID INTAKE....SO DRINK UP!! All this was found in Dr A's Habits of Health;)

    I personally drink 6.6 liters a day;) Have been since Aug 20,2011 and yes I use the bathroom quite often.lol..but I'm a SAHM...works.for me;)
  • i drink a lot of tea with honey or a little sugar. but i was told even decaf herbal tea wasn't good enough. it's gotta be plain water. period. (i don't believe it and will do the tea idea and say it's water. lol)
  • takehimaway
    takehimaway Posts: 499 Member
    THE MOST IMPORTANT: IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO DRINK TOO MUCH WATER UNLESS U HAVE A SPECIFIC MEDICAL CONDITION THAT REQUIRES U TO RESTRICT YOUR FLUID INTAKE....SO DRINK UP!! All this was found in Dr A's Habits of Health;)

    So, is water intoxication a myth, and nobody actually really died from it?
    -rolls blue eyes-
  • KarmaxKitty
    KarmaxKitty Posts: 901 Member
    i drink a lot of tea with honey or a little sugar. but i was told even decaf herbal tea wasn't good enough. it's gotta be plain water. period. (i don't believe it and will do the tea idea and say it's water. lol)

    They told you wrong... Tea has no calories, shouldnt have added sugar in the bag--it pretty much just flavors the water. When you log tea, you ususally end up logging a tea bag, which is nothing, and boiling water, which is still nothing. Winter hits, and my tea collection gets low. I never felt thirsty.
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member

    6. It speeds up metabolism. A recent study showed that drinking 2-8oz glasses of water increased metabolic rate by 30% for 90 minutes.

    8. It compensates for the loss of glycogen stores as you lose weight

    I'd like to see the study you mentioned. Can you link it? I'm not doubting you... I'd just like to read it.

    And what do you mean by it compensates for the loss of glycogen stores? Glycogen is a carb. Water is not. I don't understand how it's supposed to compensate.
  • becoming_a_new_me
    becoming_a_new_me Posts: 1,860 Member
    i drink a lot of tea with honey or a little sugar. but i was told even decaf herbal tea wasn't good enough. it's gotta be plain water. period. (i don't believe it and will do the tea idea and say it's water. lol)

    They told you wrong... Tea has no calories, shouldnt have added sugar in the bag--it pretty much just flavors the water. When you log tea, you ususally end up logging a tea bag, which is nothing, and boiling water, which is still nothing. Winter hits, and my tea collection gets low. I never felt thirsty.

    I agree with you here. Tea is an excellent source of fluid...you just have to drink a little more of it to equal the same absorbsion rate as just POW (Plain Ol' Water). I say drink up!
  • amuchison
    amuchison Posts: 274 Member
    Weepingwillow...okay use common since...water u drink in moderation..not seeing how quick u can chug a keg of water!! That's intoxication!!
  • You need water; You're body cannot survive without it. 8 glasses a day is perfect. If you train hard, then drink more. If you don't like the taste of water use crystal lite or something with 0 sugar / low caloric content.

    Secondly, this twinkie diet, lemonade diet, potato chip diet is bull****. There's more involved in nutrition than calories. Consuming large quantities of carbohydrates and sugars will cause you to gain more weight. There is very little nutritional value out of these products to help your body lose weight and gain muscle.

    Typically people prey on those who want to lose weight fast by doing very little work. It's sad to see. I can go on and on about the products out there (shake weight anyone?) that scam ppl out of their money.

    The simple truth is this: By doing the research online, consulting your doctor, and keeping a positive outlook, you can achieve your weight loss goals. But it will not be achieved without the hard work.

    Cheers.
  • becoming_a_new_me
    becoming_a_new_me Posts: 1,860 Member
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    I'd like to see the study you mentioned. Can you link it? I'm not doubting you... I'd just like to read it.

    And what do you mean by it compensates for the loss of glycogen stores? Glycogen is a carb. Water is not. I don't understand how it's supposed to compensate.
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    He got it from Dr. A's blog (http://www.drwayneandersen.com/2011/03/water-–-nature’s-gift/), problem is much of the information is misunderstood and mis-quoted. Read the blog entry for complete information.
  • becoming_a_new_me
    becoming_a_new_me Posts: 1,860 Member

    I'd like to see the study you mentioned. Can you link it? I'm not doubting you... I'd just like to read it.

    And what do you mean by it compensates for the loss of glycogen stores? Glycogen is a carb. Water is not. I don't understand how it's supposed to compensate.
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    He got it from Dr. A's blog (http://www.drwayneandersen.com/2011/03/water-–-nature’s-gift/), problem is much of the information is misunderstood and mis-quoted. Read the blog entry for complete information.
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    Sorry, I did a typo...She, not he
  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member
    your body needs water, yes. but it doesn't need a gallon a day. We evolved on the African savannah! we conserve water pretty well. When your body needs water, it TELLS you, by getting thirsty. if you are peeing 30 times a day and your pee is barely yellow, you are drinking too much.
  • navywifeandmomof4
    navywifeandmomof4 Posts: 958 Member
    all my life I would never drink water.I couldn't stand the taste.now I'm slowly drinking it i can drink anywhere from 8oz to 32oz. a day I use MIO love the berry pomegranate flavor.
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member
    He got it from Dr. A's blog (http://www.drwayneandersen.com/2011/03/water-–-nature’s-gift/), problem is much of the information is misunderstood and mis-quoted. Read the blog entry for complete information.

    Oh. Thanks. That's a little disappointing... ah well. Some blogs are really good and are backed with true science. Other blogs? Not so much. I guess I go back to my original state- having never actually seen any science that would indicate that drinking water has a significant metabolic advantage. It could, or course. I've just never seen anything that demonstrates clearly that it does, aside from what one poster jokingly pointed out- that if you don't consume any liquid at all, your metabolism will eventually stop.

    I might dabble on pubmed tomorrow and see if I can disprove my hypothesis... who knows?
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Nobody else is calling bull****?
  • Tiffa0909
    Tiffa0909 Posts: 191 Member
    I use to hate water , it made me sick . But now the only thing I drink is water , I have at least 2.2 liters a day. I just have to leave that mind frame that I hated water .
  • takehimaway
    takehimaway Posts: 499 Member
    Weepingwillow...okay use common since...water u drink in moderation..not seeing how quick u can chug a keg of water!! That's intoxication!!

    I do use common sense, however when you spread misinformation to newbies, it can be dangerous. Obviously, it only happens to stupid people, and no one like marathon runners or anyone doing endurance training, amirite? Why don't you use common sense, and not spread information that isn't fact? Great, thanks!
  • I remember Mum telling me about some medical professional who took a seminar at her school talking about fluid intake and she said it was really simple. Not including first thing in the morning, if your urine is pale and plentiful then you are doing fine with your fluid intake, if it is anything else, then you need more fluid (in whatever form - I'll take mine in tea thanks).

    Your other bodily waste is a good indicator too. Rabbit/sheep pellets pretty much tell you you're not getting enough. Soft and easy to pass (and even better shaped like a letter 'C' or 'S' - LOL) means you're getting enough fluid. 'Cause I have to do those things every day, I just rely on them to tell me the story and don't worry about anything else.
  • becoming_a_new_me
    becoming_a_new_me Posts: 1,860 Member
    Nobody else is calling bull****?

    I believe I have called bull**** several times now. To what are you referring to specifically?
  • cleehancock
    cleehancock Posts: 14 Member
    I asked my regular doctor about this because i've been concerned about how much water to drink... am I drinking too much, am I drinking too little. His answer made a lot of sense to me. Quite simply there is no set amount of water that you should be drinking. You should only drink water when you are thirsty. Anything else is really overkill/unnecessary. He has been a doctor for over 30 years and my wife and her family have seen him for almost as long. I've been seeing him for 5 years, though we just recently about a year ago started working on my blood pressure and weight together. So I think that is some pretty sound insight from someone in the know of what is healthy. That is what I have been doing is only drinking water when I'm thirsty. I love a nice cold tall glass of ice water from a good source. I do love my Dr. Pepper and Crystal light too. But I try to drink twice as much water or Crystal light as I do soda because I am trying to watch my sugar and sodium intake, which for far too long have been far too much of each. Ever since applying his advisement in regard to how much water I drink, I don't feel overly thirsty and I don't feel like I am experiencing water intoxication. I don't show signs of dehydration either. I'm not a professional nutritionist and certainly not a doctor. I do trust my doctor and my advise is to each individual to consult with their doctor the same question as that your doctor will know you better than anyone on the forum will know you and your individual circumstance. :^)
  • amuchison
    amuchison Posts: 274 Member
    My info came straight from the book word for word...regardless water is key..;)
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member
    Actually, I went ahead and did a quick skim through now of pubmed, rather than wait until tomorrow. I figured I was thinking about it and I should find out.

    I didn't find anything to suggest water increases or decreases your metabolism in any way.

    I DID find evidence to suggest that drinking a large glass of water before a meal will cause you to eat less at that meal.

    There's no biological way H2O can substitute for glycogen. I really have no idea what the doctor who wrote your book is talking about, amuchison. When you deplete glycogen, you lose water... so maybe the doctor meant that drinking lots of water compensates for water weight loss when the glycogen is gone? I don't know... that's about the best I can do.

    Anyway, you can try your own search. I used the following terms: metabolism + water consumption; water consumption + weight loss.
  • becoming_a_new_me
    becoming_a_new_me Posts: 1,860 Member
    My info came straight from the book word for word...regardless water is key..;)

    Ah...okay...I was only able to find the blog. You are right, fluid intake in any form is essential to proper health, but the metabolism thing has not been proven in any scientific study. It has been shown to improve fat burning since the liver can do its job and the kidneys can do their jobs. I love water, but not everyone does. What it comes down to is getting fluids in any way...tea, coffee, lettuce, whatever. If you can poop fine, are not thirsty, your skin is moist, and your pee is semi-clear then you are in safe territory. Everyone is different, and there is not one cookie cutter answer. And yes, I brought up poop...it's what I talk about all day at work. I work in nutrition, and you'd be amazed what my clients tell me about their poop, and you really can tell a lot about your body by it.
  • amuchison
    amuchison Posts: 274 Member
    http://ask.metafilter.com/63172/Fat-or-water-What-do-we-lose

    Interesting....also explains the whole glycogen deal...I'm sure if u Google u will find tons..
  • becoming_a_new_me
    becoming_a_new_me Posts: 1,860 Member
    http://ask.metafilter.com/63172/Fat-or-water-What-do-we-lose

    Interesting....also explains the whole glycogen deal...I'm sure if u Google u will find tons..

    I don't think this site is legit because it is a forum much like this is. The whole thing about glycogen is that it is how the body stores glucose. Glucose is a form of sugar, and high carb diets increase Glycogen levels which then cause blood-glucose levels to fall. Glycogen has water molecules attached to it, so a clean diet means that less Glycogen is needed in the body, resulting in it no longer needing to be stored by the body. This is where the theory of losing water weight comes in, since the water molecules attached to the Glycogen are expelled in the urine as they are no longer needed to be bound to the molecule.

    I hope this makes sense.
  • becoming_a_new_me
    becoming_a_new_me Posts: 1,860 Member
    sorry, I mean that when Glycogen levels fall, blood glucose levels fall.
  • becoming_a_new_me
    becoming_a_new_me Posts: 1,860 Member
    Glycogen levels and how they store glucose is why diabetics benefit from a low-carb diet...the body needs less Glycogen, and since there are less "holding cells" for blood glucose, blood sugar levels drop too.
  • trud72
    trud72 Posts: 1,912 Member
    wow you two, I have no idea what to say I drink EASILY 100 ounces a day, I almost never drink anything but water...wow.

    ARE YOU A ROBOT?????? :laugh:

    guys i found it hard and never drank water at first and yes you still lose weight :noway: but i do try to now drink water it will help your bodies look at the bigger picture not just losing weight...look at the whole health thing! :drinker: (now drink up) :drinker:
  • houstonmacbro
    houstonmacbro Posts: 99 Member
    So I'm sure a lot of people will tell me off for this, but i dont drink my water, not a glass, I've tried several times but find myself forcing it down and can only manage 2 glasses a day when I do, i dont remember ever really being a "drinker", of any sort, I usually have 2 med coffee a day, and 2 small glasses of diet pepsi and thats it. Why am i struggling to drink water? I dont think I ever really drank more than what i currently do and I have the most beautiful clear skin and am not dehydrated. So my question is, will i suffer and not lose weight without the water intake?

    Last year I dropped 18lbs (unfortunately gain it back and then some this year), But I would only consume 1/2 a bottle-1 bottle a day when I did lose the weight back then, and that was only during a work out, PLEASE HELP!

    And for the people who will suggest the crystal lite stuff for water, I tried that and dont like that either.

    And I have to make one more point, Ive been reading everyone saying if your hungry drink water, when i do, i swear, my body feels like its STARVING! LOL

    * week one on mfp today and -2lbs :)

    I grew up on some nasty well water ... I was never a big water drinker as a kid. It was always flavored juice or Tang or KoolAid (don't judge me...) ... But as a late teen and then adult I began drinking water almost exclusively. I rarely drink a sodo and when I do it's diet. But let me tell you ... your body is crying out for water.

    Splurge on the good stuff ... filtered water or buy a filtering system in the pitcher. They have a lot of good ones that don't cost a lot. I think sometimes we don't like water because we don't like the taste of tap water.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Nobody else is calling bull****?

    I believe I have called bull**** several times now. To what are you referring to specifically?

    OP.
    I dont believe any of this.

    Must be January!
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