Like We Don't Know This Already!

Every day tbh No reason not to, unless you like believing all the scaremonger stuff out there.

It is not scare mongering stuff. These chemicals, preservatives and crap are obviously not good for the body. Too bad people don't care enough about themselves or their loved ones to stay away from this crap.

Oh please. This is exactly the type of attitude that turns people away from your viewpoint. You're honestly going to suggest that drinking soda means that you don't care about your family? Really? :noway:

Think what you want. I know people that truly care for their family and themselves will have their family eat, drink and care for themselves in the most healthful manner possible.

I feel so sad for so many people on this website that don't even care what is in the food they eat, the evil corporations they are supporting and you all are only making them richer while you will eventually degrade your bodies.

SMH

Please spare me your sympathy. If we didn't care what we ate, then why are we on MFP? lol
not exactly a hobbies or past time....
SMH!

Please do not feel bad afor me because I DO care, but in all honesty shopping organically at a grocery store is WAY too expensive, farmers markets here only last until about November (If we are lucky) and growing my own food can only take place during the summer and I do not have time to do canning and *kitten*... so I shop where economically fesible which means no orgaincally grown foods... and OMG chemically abused animals... and even better sometimes it is MECHANICALLY SEPERATED because I do not have time to cook so I eat FROZEN meals... and you know what?? I am 100% healthy - other than my weight my blood tests are perfect...

So think what you will about me but do not feel sorry for me.

You may only seem healthy for now. Until you get sick one time and end up having to take way stronger antibiotics because your body is immune to the standard antibiotics from ingesting factory farmed CAFO meats.

I suppose you don't care how animals are treated before they go to slaughter? You don't care the source of your food and such.

This attitude is precisely why Cargill, Monsanto and all these other companies are winning. Because people don't care.

I hope one day people will wake up and see that these food manufacturers don't have anyone's best interest at heart, only their bottom line. Maybe when 90% of all people have dimentia, diabetes and cancer - people will then wake up.

And the part about not having time, is a cop out and an excuse.
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The last time I needed antibiotics was in 1998 ,.... for tonsilitis... so yeah... I am not going to worry about it until I can.. and you find time in my day to can..

Monday - friday... up and out of house at 7:30am.. not returning home until 7:30
still need to walk dog
maintain home
make dinner
exercise.
get to bet by 11is...

weekends.. out of town running an elderly grandmother around for various errands.. and then come home and maintian home do laundry ... need time to sleep in there too

FYI. I do care about how animals are slaughtered but going to buy my stuff farm fresh is NOT economically feasible and orgainc does not mean the animals are slaughtered in a nice manner .... just sayin.....

Never said I didn't care, infact I believe i said I DO care... I said I CANNOT AFFORD ORGANIC FARM FRESH FREE RANGE ETHICALLY TREATED food...

Pretty much you eat or drink will kill you eventually.. I am glad you can stand on a soap box and preach..and I am GLAD you can sit there and say you feed your family 100% healthy 100% of the time that is fantastic you must be in the 1%...

Oh and to the OP.. i enjoy the magical flame retarded drink bout 2 -3 times a week...

A couple of things:

First off the journalistic integrity of yahoo is non-existant. I read this article a few days ago. If I see a claim that is extraordinary I research it further. One of the claims in the article 'Artificial sweeteners and food dyes have been linked to brain cell damage and hyperactivity' is quite dubious. I did a simple google search on 'aspartame brain cell damage'. At the top of list are artticles written by James Bowen and Joseph Mercola. Google these names and you will find that they are considered quacks and charlatans in the medical and scientific community.

As for the coke and the penny thing check out this link:
http://joshmadison.com/2003/12/14/will-coke-dissolve-a-nail-experiment/

From personal experience, I was diagnosed with MS and have lived with the disease since 1998, when I use Splenda, Equal, or any other artificial sweeteners, my MS becomes extremely active.

Personally, I can tell you that the stuff is toxic to your neurological system!

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While I don't doubt the validity of your experience at the end of the day personal experience and anecdote can't be a cornerstone of science. Your experience can certainly provide an impetus to explore the effect that artificial sweeteners have on MS but in order for something to be scientifically accepted it has to be replicated and controlled for. While your experience is valid it isn't a controlled experiment and therefore has to be categorized as personal experience that can be fallible.

So, everyone...

Do you call it soda, pop or something else? I understand that some places call it all Coke.

I grew up calling it pop, but now call it soda.

depends.. I call it soda like you it was pop growing up... but around my brother its pop because he hates that word.

You all are crazy for drinking Coke PERIOD. EXCLAMATION!


/sips Pepsi Max (extra chemicals) MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Our bodies are designed to handle everything in moderation - except mine...my body has 0 tolerance for some people and their holier than thou attitudes. Makes me want to face punch..must be the aspartame working on my brain cells.... *chuckle*

I love Diet Coke...LOVE LOVE it. And drink it in moderation. I guess that means a few things. I am uncaring of animals and my family, I will lose my teeth, I'm lazy, I don't want to be healthy and I will live a short life filled with all manner of diseases.

Makes so much sense, why didn't I see it before??

Every day tbh No reason not to, unless you like believing all the scaremonger stuff out there.

It is not scare mongering stuff. These chemicals, preservatives and crap are obviously not good for the body. Too bad people don't care enough about themselves or their loved ones to stay away from this crap.

Oh please. This is exactly the type of attitude that turns people away from your viewpoint. You're honestly going to suggest that drinking soda means that you don't care about your family? Really? :noway:

Think what you want. I know people that truly care for their family and themselves will have their family eat, drink and care for themselves in the most healthful manner possible.

I feel so sad for so many people on this website that don't even care what is in the food they eat, the evil corporations they are supporting and you all are only making them richer while you will eventually degrade your bodies.

SMH

Please do not feel bad afor me because I DO care, but in all honesty shopping organically at a grocery store is WAY too expensive, farmers markets here only last until about November (If we are lucky) and growing my own food can only take place during the summer and I do not have time to do canning and *kitten*... so I shop where economically fesible which means no orgaincally grown foods... and OMG chemically abused animals... and even better sometimes it is MECHANICALLY SEPERATED because I do not have time to cook so I eat FROZEN meals... and you know what?? I am 100% healthy - other than my weight my blood tests are perfect...

So think what you will about me but do not feel sorry for me.

You may only seem healthy for now. Until you get sick one time and end up having to take way stronger antibiotics because your body is immune to the standard antibiotics from ingesting factory farmed CAFO meats.

I suppose you don't care how animals are treated before they go to slaughter? You don't care the source of your food and such.

This attitude is precisely why Cargill, Monsanto and all these other companies are winning. Because people don't care.

I hope one day people will wake up and see that these food manufacturers don't have anyone's best interest at heart, only their bottom line. Maybe when 90% of all people have dimentia, diabetes and cancer - people will then wake up.

And the part about not having time, is a cop out and an excuse.

Did you miss the part where she mentioned that she can't afford to eat organically? A lot of people can't. Sometimes it has nothing to do with caring. If it comes down to your family eating ramen noodles or not eating at all, ramen noodles are still the healthier option.

No one said that vegetables and fruits need to be organic...............

I am talking about basic cooking a REAL meal, not some frozen or boxed throw in the oven or microwave crap. It is excuses to say that eating Mc Donald's or a frozen pizza is cheaper than cooking a real meal.

That is an excuse and not true. I don't eat 100% organic, but you best believe I don't have any boxed, packaged or frozen ready to eat meals in my freezer, pantry or refrigerator.

I buy frozen or fresh fruits and vegetables (Coop and CSA), meats that are raised in their natural habitat and treated humanely.

Everyone has busy lives. If I can make time to work full time, run a business part time, go to school, exercise, spend time with my husband and dogs and still have time to cook, clean and take care of everything else in my house, then others should really sit down and make their priorities straight.

I was brought up in a household that my mom and dad felt that people that won't even take the time to make something from scratch and instead will bake a cake from a box or make a meal from a package really don't care.

Every day tbh No reason not to, unless you like believing all the scaremonger stuff out there.

It is not scare mongering stuff. These chemicals, preservatives and crap are obviously not good for the body. Too bad people don't care enough about themselves or their loved ones to stay away from this crap.

Oh please. This is exactly the type of attitude that turns people away from your viewpoint. You're honestly going to suggest that drinking soda means that you don't care about your family? Really? :noway:

Think what you want. I know people that truly care for their family and themselves will have their family eat, drink and care for themselves in the most healthful manner possible.

I feel so sad for so many people on this website that don't even care what is in the food they eat, the evil corporations they are supporting and you all are only making them richer while you will eventually degrade your bodies.

SMH

Please do not feel bad afor me because I DO care, but in all honesty shopping organically at a grocery store is WAY too expensive, farmers markets here only last until about November (If we are lucky) and growing my own food can only take place during the summer and I do not have time to do canning and *kitten*... so I shop where economically fesible which means no orgaincally grown foods... and OMG chemically abused animals... and even better sometimes it is MECHANICALLY SEPERATED because I do not have time to cook so I eat FROZEN meals... and you know what?? I am 100% healthy - other than my weight my blood tests are perfect...

So think what you will about me but do not feel sorry for me.

You may only seem healthy for now. Until you get sick one time and end up having to take way stronger antibiotics because your body is immune to the standard antibiotics from ingesting factory farmed CAFO meats.

I suppose you don't care how animals are treated before they go to slaughter? You don't care the source of your food and such.

This attitude is precisely why Cargill, Monsanto and all these other companies are winning. Because people don't care.

I hope one day people will wake up and see that these food manufacturers don't have anyone's best interest at heart, only their bottom line. Maybe when 90% of all people have dimentia, diabetes and cancer - people will then wake up.

And the part about not having time, is a cop out and an excuse.

Did you miss the part where she mentioned that she can't afford to eat organically? A lot of people can't. Sometimes it has nothing to do with caring. If it comes down to your family eating ramen noodles or not eating at all, ramen noodles are still the healthier option.

No one said that vegetables and fruits need to be organic...............

I am talking about basic cooking a REAL meal, not some frozen or boxed throw in the oven or microwave crap. It is excuses to say that eating Mc Donald's or a frozen pizza is cheaper than cooking a real meal.

That is an excuse and not true. I don't eat 100% organic, but you best believe I don't have any boxed, packaged or frozen ready to eat meals in my freezer, pantry or refrigerator.

I buy frozen or fresh fruits and vegetables (Coop and CSA), meats that are raised in their natural habitat and treated humanely.

Everyone has busy lives. If I can make time to work full time, run a business part time, go to school, exercise, spend time with my husband and dogs and still have time to cook, clean and take care of everything else in my house, then others should really sit down and make their priorities straight.

I was brought up in a household that my mom and dad felt that people that won't even take the time to make something from scratch and instead will bake a cake from a box or make a meal from a package really don't care.

Yes we know you're better than the rest of us. Please stop your preaching already. We get it.

Personally I think if you haven't raced a Half Ironman or longer distance you're lazy...

So, everyone...

Do you call it soda, pop or something else? I understand that some places call it all Coke.

I grew up calling it pop, but now call it soda.

In MN, it is pop. :-)

So, everyone...

Do you call it soda, pop or something else? I understand that some places call it all Coke.

I grew up calling it pop, but now call it soda.

I refer to all of them by their name.

When I ask for a Coke in a restaurant they better not even think about giving me Pepsi instead. If I want a Pepsi, I'll ask for a ************ Pepsi.

If I ask for a Coke and you say "will Pepsi do instead?", I'm going to ask you "will Monopoly money do instead of real money?"

Join the celebration, soda lovers! :drinker:

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/477370-how-bout-some-tasty-carbonated-love

Every day tbh No reason not to, unless you like believing all the scaremonger stuff out there.

It is not scare mongering stuff. These chemicals, preservatives and crap are obviously not good for the body. Too bad people don't care enough about themselves or their loved ones to stay away from this crap.

Oh please. This is exactly the type of attitude that turns people away from your viewpoint. You're honestly going to suggest that drinking soda means that you don't care about your family? Really? :noway:

Think what you want. I know people that truly care for their family and themselves will have their family eat, drink and care for themselves in the most healthful manner possible.

I feel so sad for so many people on this website that don't even care what is in the food they eat, the evil corporations they are supporting and you all are only making them richer while you will eventually degrade your bodies.

SMH

Please do not feel bad afor me because I DO care, but in all honesty shopping organically at a grocery store is WAY too expensive, farmers markets here only last until about November (If we are lucky) and growing my own food can only take place during the summer and I do not have time to do canning and *kitten*... so I shop where economically fesible which means no orgaincally grown foods... and OMG chemically abused animals... and even better sometimes it is MECHANICALLY SEPERATED because I do not have time to cook so I eat FROZEN meals... and you know what?? I am 100% healthy - other than my weight my blood tests are perfect...

So think what you will about me but do not feel sorry for me.

You may only seem healthy for now. Until you get sick one time and end up having to take way stronger antibiotics because your body is immune to the standard antibiotics from ingesting factory farmed CAFO meats.

I suppose you don't care how animals are treated before they go to slaughter? You don't care the source of your food and such.

This attitude is precisely why Cargill, Monsanto and all these other companies are winning. Because people don't care.

I hope one day people will wake up and see that these food manufacturers don't have anyone's best interest at heart, only their bottom line. Maybe when 90% of all people have dimentia, diabetes and cancer - people will then wake up.

And the part about not having time, is a cop out and an excuse.

Did you miss the part where she mentioned that she can't afford to eat organically? A lot of people can't. Sometimes it has nothing to do with caring. If it comes down to your family eating ramen noodles or not eating at all, ramen noodles are still the healthier option.

No one said that vegetables and fruits need to be organic...............

I am talking about basic cooking a REAL meal, not some frozen or boxed throw in the oven or microwave crap. It is excuses to say that eating Mc Donald's or a frozen pizza is cheaper than cooking a real meal.

That is an excuse and not true. I don't eat 100% organic, but you best believe I don't have any boxed, packaged or frozen ready to eat meals in my freezer, pantry or refrigerator.

I buy frozen or fresh fruits and vegetables (Coop and CSA), meats that are raised in their natural habitat and treated humanely.

Everyone has busy lives. If I can make time to work full time, run a business part time, go to school, exercise, spend time with my husband and dogs and still have time to cook, clean and take care of everything else in my house, then others should really sit down and make their priorities straight.

I was brought up in a household that my mom and dad felt that people that won't even take the time to make something from scratch and instead will bake a cake from a box or make a meal from a package really don't care.

Yes we know you're better than the rest of us. Please stop your preaching already. We get it.

Personally I think if you haven't raced a Half Ironman or longer distance you're lazy...

It's official. I am lazy.

Look, one should be careful in criticizing the lifestyle choice of others. You can always look in the mirror and ask more of yourself first. Like, why am I not out helping feed the poor or homeless instead of using electricity burining fossil fuels that pollute our earth typing on a message board.

No one's a saint and no matter how much you care about this or that there is someone who is doing more than you who thinks the reason's you give to not do more are a mere copout as well.

Every day tbh No reason not to, unless you like believing all the scaremonger stuff out there.

It is not scare mongering stuff. These chemicals, preservatives and crap are obviously not good for the body. Too bad people don't care enough about themselves or their loved ones to stay away from this crap.

Whoa. Lack of knowledge/awareness or even difference of opinion DOES NOT mean people care less about themselves or their loved ones than non-soda drinkers. Come on, now.

If you cared, wouldn't you educate yourself?

I put this in the same boat as people that are too lazy to make sure their kids eat healthy whether at home or at school.

Lack of understanding and education is downright lazy. Being lazy shows signs of a lack of caring.

So let me guess, if I showed you a container with this ingredients list on it, you'd pass right?

Water, glucose, fructose, galactose, phenolic glycosides, 6-deoxyaldohexoses (fuctose and rhamnose), saccharose, galacturonans, (1-4) linked D-galactopiranuronic acid, pectin, pectinic acids, polygalacturonic acids, pectinestarase, Citric Acid, L-Malic Acid, D-Isocitric Acid, Oxalic Acid, Succinic Acid, Malonic Acid, Quinic Acid, Tartaric Acid, Adipic Acid, 2-ketogluratic Acid, praline, asparagines, aspartic acid, serine, glutamic acid and arginine. oxidoreductases, transferases, hydrolases and lyases, isomerases and ligases, glucosilglucerides, Carotenoids, tetraterpenes, limonin, aslimonoic acid A-ring lactone, neohesperidosides, flavones (3-hydroxyflavanones, 3-dydroxyflavones, O-glycosyl, aglycones C-glycosylflavones, Anthocyanins, (hesperidin, naringin, poncirin, neoheriocitrin, neohesperidin, rhoifolin, rutin, diosmin, sinensetin, auranetin, tangeritin, hydroxyethylrutinosideres, nobiletin cyanidin-3-glucoside, cyanidina-3.5-diglucoside, peonidin-5-glucoside, delphinidin-3-glucoside, petunidin-3-glucoside, Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid), Pholacine, Vitamin B6, Thiamine, Riboflavin, Biotin, Pantotenic acid, Vitamin A.

Can't say I blame you, a lot of scary sounding and scary looking chemicals in there, like aspartic acid, definitely something to avoid, right?

It's the "ingredients list" for an orange. As far as the human body is concerned there is NO SUCH THING as a "one ingredient food." Eat an orange, and the body sees it as that ingredients list is, it doesn't see "orange." It doesn't recognize "soda," "steak," "carrot," or any other food, it only recognizes the chemical components that make up what you eat on a molecular level, and treats those chemicals the same way, no matter where they come from. Sugar from a soda is broken down and burned in the exact same way as the sugar from an orange.

I disagree. My body recognizes steak. Definitely recognizes it as pure deliciousness.

that are raised in their natural habitat and treated humanely.
Yes we know you're better than the rest of us. Please stop your preaching already. We get it.

Personally I think if you haven't raced a Half Ironman or longer distance you're lazy...

It's official. I am lazy.

No you've run a marathon, I'll give you a pass this one time...