Asked my Trainer re eating back calories

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  • renubhat_82
    renubhat_82 Posts: 549 Member
    thanks for sharing!
  • tuffytuffy1
    tuffytuffy1 Posts: 920 Member
    Your trainer's response had the statement, "This is a fact, my friends!" in it. It sounded like she was marketing herself to a large audience, and not responding solely to the OP's question. Which makes me question the entire response. It just didn't seem like it was written in response to a question from one individual.
  • Thanks for sharing!
  • npeters519
    npeters519 Posts: 87 Member
    Great post, thanks for sharing!

    tuffytuffy1 - I'm pretty sure this email was sent to a group list (sounds like the group that does the bootcamp the OP mentions).
  • fancyladyJeri
    fancyladyJeri Posts: 1,319 Member
    Great post. Thanks for sharing.
  • vger11
    vger11 Posts: 248
    slow and steady wins the race....gotta fuel that body
  • Great post!
  • Thanks! :) Love the explanation.
  • erinkeely4
    erinkeely4 Posts: 408 Member
    Thank you! This is GOLD.
  • committomittxoxo
    committomittxoxo Posts: 339 Member
    Hardcore bump...
  • funkycamper
    funkycamper Posts: 998 Member
    I feel like I'm living in an alternate reality. Am I the only one who read all the stickies when I started here to learn how this website is supposed to work?

    OP, I'm glad you shared the post if this information finally got into the noggins of MFP participants so I'm not knocking you. Thanks for posting it.
  • zoodalia
    zoodalia Posts: 294
    Really interesting post. Although things aren't much clearer to me as it's the same old debate, I wish someone had a concrete answer. What I tend to do is eat back calories after a bigger workout (30 minutes circuit training and then an hour on the bike) but if I burn 300 when I'm out walking I don't feel 'deprived' enough to eat them back.

    In saying this, my weight was not shifting for love nor money and in my frustrated, defeated state I ate 3000 calories on Friday (no, not 'good' calories either), 1800 on Saturday (although did burn 800) and 1500 yesterday and over this weekend have lost two pounds.
  • SilverStrychnine
    SilverStrychnine Posts: 413 Member
    YAY I CAN EAT MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    The answer she gives is right for the question asked HOWEVER you didn't tell her that MFP already sets you a deficit. I'm sure her answer would have been totally diferent then.

    Ask again and this time give her the full story

    How so? She's saying to eat most of them back. She acknowledges that 1200 is a deficit and probably too much for some people., then states that if you burn 600 and don't eat them back, you're asking your body to try and exist on 600 calories a day if your calories are set at 1200.

    Translation, she DOES get that you're at a deficit and she DOES advocate eating most of the exercise calories back.

    Hello-

    I also asked my certified trainer who also her degree in nutrition. And she told me that eating back your exercise calories defeats a major part of exercising for weight loss. If I am exercising for strength and mental well being, then that's one thing.

    The 1200 calorie goal (from clean foods--not junk) is intended to provide your body with the nutrients, vitamins and minerals to function while creating a caloric deficit. Your body IS getting the nutrients it needs and exercising does not take away these nutrients your body has taken in. It's already been ingested.

    These "opinions" by trainers and critics and anyone who calls themselves experts will ALWAYS differ. Knowing that, I asked my trusted physician (M.D.) and he agrees that I do not have to eat back my exercise calories. That if I am feeding my body good clean food, and NOT starving myself (by not eating), my body will NOT go into starvation mode.
    No, just follow the MFP recommendations, and if your trainer is ignorant of how deficits are factored, please don't take bad advice.

    MFP calculates our total daily calorie intake WITHOUT exercise to lose 1 pound or so per week.
    And after we log exercises, our daily calorie limit increases.
    Why?
    Because MFP telling us to eat our exercise calories.
    Large deficits are unhealthy, because while you will lose weight, what's the quality of the weight loss?
    In many cases you'll lose lean body mass - MUSCLE - which LOWERS your metabolic rate, making weight loss harder.
    These crash diets work well for a season -- and sure enough, the pounds melt away. But when you eat so
    few calories, you train your metabolism to slow down. Once the diet is over, you have a body that burns calories more slowly -- and you gain weight.
    Be smart.
    Exercise well both cardio and resistance, and eat back the calories.
    The exercise will RAISE your metabolism and burn more fat at rest.
    Agreed 100%.

    "These "opinions" by trainers and critics and anyone who calls themselves experts will ALWAYS differ. Knowing that, I asked my trusted physician (M.D.) and he agrees that I do not have to eat back my exercise calories. That if I am feeding my body good clean food, and NOT starving myself (by not eating), my body will NOT go into starvation mode."

    Yet, she agreed with her trusted physician, because that is what she wanted to hear. Most general physician's and nutritionist know nothing about modern nutrition. They are still stuck on old knowledge that has been proven to be bad.
  • zoodalia
    zoodalia Posts: 294
    Your trainer's response had the statement, "This is a fact, my friends!" in it. It sounded like she was marketing herself to a large audience, and not responding solely to the OP's question. Which makes me question the entire response. It just didn't seem like it was written in response to a question from one individual.

    I do admit the wording was very strange for a reply aimed at one person...
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
    The answer she gives is right for the question asked HOWEVER you didn't tell her that MFP already sets you a deficit. I'm sure her answer would have been totally diferent then.

    Ask again and this time give her the full story

    How so? She's saying to eat most of them back. She acknowledges that 1200 is a deficit and probably too much for some people., then states that if you burn 600 and don't eat them back, you're asking your body to try and exist on 600 calories a day if your calories are set at 1200.

    Translation, she DOES get that you're at a deficit and she DOES advocate eating most of the exercise calories back.

    Hello-

    I also asked my certified trainer who also her degree in nutrition. And she told me that eating back your exercise calories defeats a major part of exercising for weight loss. If I am exercising for strength and mental well being, then that's one thing.

    The 1200 calorie goal (from clean foods--not junk) is intended to provide your body with the nutrients, vitamins and minerals to function while creating a caloric deficit. Your body IS getting the nutrients it needs and exercising does not take away these nutrients your body has taken in. It's already been ingested.

    These "opinions" by trainers and critics and anyone who calls themselves experts will ALWAYS differ. Knowing that, I asked my trusted physician (M.D.) and he agrees that I do not have to eat back my exercise calories. That if I am feeding my body good clean food, and NOT starving myself (by not eating), my body will NOT go into starvation mode.
    No, just follow the MFP recommendations, and if your trainer is ignorant of how deficits are factored, please don't take bad advice.

    MFP calculates our total daily calorie intake WITHOUT exercise to lose 1 pound or so per week.
    And after we log exercises, our daily calorie limit increases.
    Why?
    Because MFP telling us to eat our exercise calories.
    Large deficits are unhealthy, because while you will lose weight, what's the quality of the weight loss?
    In many cases you'll lose lean body mass - MUSCLE - which LOWERS your metabolic rate, making weight loss harder.
    These crash diets work well for a season -- and sure enough, the pounds melt away. But when you eat so
    few calories, you train your metabolism to slow down. Once the diet is over, you have a body that burns calories more slowly -- and you gain weight.
    Be smart.
    Exercise well both cardio and resistance, and eat back the calories.
    The exercise will RAISE your metabolism and burn more fat at rest.


    ^ Well said!!!!

    Don't slow down your metabolism people, you'll regret it!
  • Fit4Evolution
    Fit4Evolution Posts: 375 Member
    that was explained in a great way.. ive lost more on an 1800 calorie diet then on a 1400 calorie diet because of the starvation and craving factors which accompany the larger deficit.. so start a bit higher and then cut more if you really need it..
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  • jaeone
    jaeone Posts: 649 Member
    This needs to be told over and over and over...!!! Everyday I hope SOMEONE gets it!! Thanks again
  • AndreaG170
    AndreaG170 Posts: 104 Member
    This is a great post! Thanks so much for sharing. The trainer should have their own column in a fitness magazine!
  • MrsAngelique
    MrsAngelique Posts: 164 Member
    Hey everyone,
    I know i have read over and over on here to eat back the calories you burn exercising and yes i have been. (most time) Even though i realy felt like it defeated the purpose of exercising.

    Anyways my boot camp instructor is also a personal trainer and right into nutrition so i emailed her and asked her opinon on the eating back calories.
    I copied her reply to anyone that is interested (it is a long reply) - if not interested in what she had to say please dont continue reading as i know there are a few on here who do not agree with eating back the calories not matter what is explained.

    Here is my question and her reply.

    Question:
    I am on a program online (www.myfitnesspal.com) I put in everything I eat and also mark down my calories burned each day through exercise.

    It is telling me to eat back my exercise calories I burned so my net does not fall below 1200 - which is my goal if I want to lose 2 lbs a week.
    They said if I only eat 1200 a day and burn off say 600 that is only giving me a calorie intake of 600 for the day.
    What do you suggest? I just hate to eat back all the calories I worked so hard to burn off – kinda defeats the purpose in my opinion?

    Answer:
    Great question! To start, I would like to clarify that eating 1200 calories to lose weight is fine for some people, and not others. It may be too low. So for those of you that are interested in calorie counting, you must check a program first like the one listed above, as the amount can be influenced with your activity level, your height, and your age.
    When you're eating 1200 calories per day you would likely lose weight without exercise. So when you add exercise in there, and burn another 600 calories, you leave your body only 600 calories to use for energy throughout your day. This is not good. Not only will this make you tired and quite possibly *****y, but your body will start going into starvation mode. This is a fact my friends! Our bodies are absolutely brilliant, and we are made to survive. This is what our bodies want, and will do anything to obtain. Therefore, when you eat too little, your body will hang onto everything you eat...just in case it doesn't get enough calories today, and/or the next day. When you eat just enough calories for your body, your body will be satisfied, and will burn the calories for energy. This is what you want because this will also make you feel energized, and it will feed the muscles we are working so hard to get :) Therefore, when you workout, yes you want to replace the calories lost, and you want to replace it with healthy food choices and not look at it as an excuse to hit the Toonie Tuesday fast food restaurant on your way home. Working out is awesome for losing weight because there is a calorie deficit, but more importantly, it helps you relieve stress so you don't stress eat, and it also helps you build lean muscle so your body is strong and burning calories at rest all day long. Remember, every pound of muscle you have on your body, you burn and extra 50-100 calories doing nothing per day! If you want to get this lean muscle, you must eat back a proper amount of calories after our workouts. So no, you are not defeating the purpose by eating back some of the calories lost during a workout.

    Another point I would like to make is that when people create a calorie deficit of course they're going to lose weight initially. You just need to be mindful how much of a deficit you've created. If it is too much of a deficit, you'll lose for a couple weeks, and you'll lose fast. The only thing is that it is not maintainable. You're body will start craving food like crazy, and when you start to feed yourself a proper amount of calories, your body will pack on pounds because it is scared that it will soon run into another famine, trying to survive on low calories. It will want to preserve the calories it is getting as a "safety net". Therefore, you want to lose weight by taking calories out in a smart way. This can simply be through healthy eating and exercise. Our workouts can burn anywhere from 300-800 calories per hour. This depends on how hard you work, your current weight, and the type of workout we do for that day. Another deficit you can create in a healthy way is through your food. Counting calories is a great way to show you portion control, so you start to learn what your body needs. I do believe that counting calories at the beginning of a weight loss journey is good as it teaches you about types of food and the calories they contain, along with the amount necessary for you. Portion control is great thing to learn in this day and age with "supersize this, and 2 for 1 that", because we have portion distortion when it comes to food. Nonetheless, if this is something that you can't find the time to do, or something you don't want to do forever, listening to your body is very important as well. If you're cutting back on your calories, working out, and are well hydrated but notice you're always tired, one of the reasons could be because you've cut out too many calories. Adding in an apple a day, or some cottage cheese could make the world of difference. Cookies don't usually fit the bill.

    Overall, being mindful of the types of foods you eat while working out, is likely going to work for some as well. Kicking the late night snacking can slash a couple hundred calories a week - or more! Switching from double double coffee to black can cut back calories, opting for an actual piece of fruit compared to a glass of juice can make a difference. Make small changes that cut back calories in a smart way....don't overdo it and put your body into starvation mode. It will be the start of habitual yo-yo dieting. Yikes! Balance it out so it is a lifestyle you can maintain :)

    Love the questions ladies - Let me know if you have any questions in regrads to the answer

    Yes!! Just what I needed to hear!:love:
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