Dangers of Vegetarian & Vegan Diets Long-Term

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  • angelashay42
    angelashay42 Posts: 286
    The inability in animals to reason is why they do not have rights. I wish vegans cared as much about human beings as they do about my food supply.

    So that means that infants and mentally challenged people have no rights?
  • daffodilsoup
    daffodilsoup Posts: 1,972 Member
    It's very relevant, you're designed to hunt. That's the point. I personally don't care if someone is a vegan/vegeterian or not. That's not what my points are about. My points are on the hunting of animals.

    The way I hunt and the way the lion hunts are incomparable. I can't catch a deer/gazelle with my bare hands, and I certainly don't eat it bleeding and raw from the carcass. Man is the most pitiful hunter of the animal kingdom.
  • skywa
    skywa Posts: 901 Member


    ...however i know for a fact that men and woman respond to vegan diets very differently.
    woman require more fats than men do. vegan diets include little to no fats.
    which is why a lot of woman that go on vegan diets often will have a host of health problems including the loss of there period, dry skin, hair loss, brittle nails, ect...

    I know for a fact than there are other fats besides animal fats! Nuts, seeds, oils, avocados, flax, etc... :noway:

    i also said both vegan and vegetarian diets can be healthy if all nutrients is supplemented properly.

    most vegan diets DO tend to be super low fat. hence the reason why 'a lot' not all woman, tend to suffer from some of those healthy issues. -___-+
  • KaylaTie
    KaylaTie Posts: 63
    Hmmm, I've only been a vegetarian for 8+ years but you changed my mind! *sarcasm* There is no point to a post like this...you're not changing anyone's mind you just look like a douche.
  • daffodilsoup
    daffodilsoup Posts: 1,972 Member
    it amazes me how you go out of your way to be so exceptionally *****y.

    Can't please everybody :)
  • WanderingMe
    WanderingMe Posts: 216 Member
    I am vegetarian. I have also eaten meat for years. And I also maintained a healthy vegan diet for two years, several years ago.
    They're are benefits and drawbacks to all three.
    What is the universal benefit of all three is that if you have the access to your needed nutrients there are a variety of ways that you can meet your nutritional needs. We are lucky to be animals that have the privilege in determining what and how we eat considering our culture, environment, and the number of variables we must adapt to given our situations.
    :flowerforyou:

    Very well put. Hats off to you
  • Ghlt4
    Ghlt4 Posts: 241 Member
    I don't want to draw fire from vegans and vegetarians but I've never met a really healthy looking one! I always assumed that they just weren't balancing their meals right. But maybe it's because strictly vegetarian eating goes against that fact that we are meat-eating animals.
    If you are healthy and a vegatarian more power to you. BUT isn't it a good idea to keep an open mind particularly when it comes to your health? Also I'm not against vegetarian meals..I find them delicious and eat them a lot.

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    Brendan Brazier, triathlete, vegan.

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    Chad Ochocinco, NFL athlete, vegetarian.


    This tofu is delicious.

    This exactly!!! And WWE World Champion Daniel Bryan, and MMA fighter Jake Shields, who I believe has recently taken up a full vegan diet!


    This!
  • TheNewDodge
    TheNewDodge Posts: 607 Member
    The inability in animals to reason is why they do not have rights. I wish vegans cared as much about human beings as they do about my food supply.

    So that means that infants and mentally challenged people have no rights?

    Logical fallacy
  • plushkitten
    plushkitten Posts: 547 Member
    Animal protein can be broken down in the body to form all amino acid groups. It is a complete protein.

    Plant proteins are not as complete. Vegetarians need to vary the type of plant proteins they ingest in order to get the full compliment of amino acids that the body needs. Beans and rice is a popular staple in many cultures, because the proteins found in them complement each other and form a complete protein. Be cautious that the quality of the plant proteins is important as well. If the plants are refined, or the plants are cooked in such a way that the process strips it of nutrients, then there is a danger of not satisfying your amino acid requirements.

    Likewise, the hormones injected into US meat supply, and the practice of fish farms, often leads to other problems for the body.

    There is nothing wrong with choosing either lifestyle; I see it more as a spiritual, religious, or mental health choice. If going vegan/vegetarian feels right to you, do it! If you prefer a bit of meat, go for it! Just make smart choices and eat only what your body needs.

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  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    You know you're not going to change anyone's mind so why bother posting this? Are you just bored or something?
    Pretty sure it was just posted as a response to the "Eating meat gives you cancer and you will die horribly" topic.
  • KaylaTie
    KaylaTie Posts: 63


    vegetarians kill plants every day.

    Haven't heard that one before. Soooo clever.
  • Anomalia
    Anomalia Posts: 506 Member
    I became a vegetarian 2 years ago. I've never really liked the idea of eating dead flesh. It has always grossed me out but I (ignorantly) thought that it was the only way. That's how my family ate, so that's how I ate. However, as I learned more, met new people, and did some research about healthy alternatives, I realized that I could have a balanced, full diet without the blood and the flesh and carcasses of animals who deserve to live just as much as I do. Pigs are as intelligent as dogs. They have feelings and they families. Would you eat your dog?

    I think it's ignorance and poor upbringing that leads most Americans to blindly eat burgers made of questionable meat by-product served by a scary clown man.

    Is this a ****ing joke? "ignorance and poor upbringing"? You, yourself have just proven that even vegetarians can display mannerisms that would result from "ignorance and poor upbringing". Thank you :flowerforyou:
  • KaylaTie
    KaylaTie Posts: 63
    You know you're not going to change anyone's mind so why bother posting this? Are you just bored or something?
    Pretty sure it was just posted as a response to the "Eating meat gives you cancer and you will die horribly" topic.

    That is just as ignorant of a topic...and any response to it is pretty ignorant in my opinion.
  • Anomalia
    Anomalia Posts: 506 Member
    You know you're not going to change anyone's mind so why bother posting this? Are you just bored or something?
    Pretty sure it was just posted as a response to the "Eating meat gives you cancer and you will die horribly" topic.

    I must have missed that one.
  • janessafantasma
    janessafantasma Posts: 312 Member
    Plant based protein is so much better for your body and easier for your body to digest. It's basic biology, and you can't argue that :)
    Actually, animal proteins are the scale for protein bioavailability. The only plant based protein that comes close to being as easily digested as animal protein is soy.

    Plant based proteins of almost any kind are easier to digest, your body is able to more efficiently break down plant based proteins, not just soy. I should have paid more attention in biology and my ecology class, but meats are actually more difficult to digest and it's because of the input/output of each protein that is digested by the animals. This is also the reason that beef is healthier for you when it's grass fed rather than fed by product. I eat meat and I'm not looking for an argument of any kind, but that's just what I've learned.
  • skywa
    skywa Posts: 901 Member
    I think that if you know how to properly supplement your diet, a vegan/vegetarian diet is fine.

    however i know for a fact that men and woman respond to vegan diets very differently.
    woman require more fats than men do. vegan diets include little to no fats.
    which is why a lot of woman that go on vegan diets often will have a host of health problems including the loss of there period, dry skin, hair loss, brittle nails, ect. there have also been studies showing that woman on low fat diets for extended periods of time were more prone to dizzy spells and fainting, even on a reasonably high calorie diet.

    I'm sorry, what?

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    i repeat

    "I think that if you know how to properly supplement your diet, a vegan/vegetarian diet is fine. "

    most ppl who eat vegan DONT get enough fats. hence the health issues i reasoned about. -___-+
  • daffodilsoup
    daffodilsoup Posts: 1,972 Member
    That might be true, but they're also the most successful. They can hunt virtually anything.

    But the question is, should they? Do they have a right to?
  • KaylaTie
    KaylaTie Posts: 63
    I am vegetarian. I have also eaten meat for years. And I also maintained a healthy vegan diet for two years, several years ago.
    They're are benefits and drawbacks to all three.
    What is the universal benefit of all three is that if you have the access to your needed nutrients there are a variety of ways that you can meet your nutritional needs. We are lucky to be animals that have the privilege in determining what and how we eat considering our culture, environment, and the number of variables we must adapt to given our situations.
    :flowerforyou:

    Very well put. Hats off to you


    Hear hear!
  • Machdude
    Machdude Posts: 136 Member
    Come on people, we have incisors for a reason.........................duh
  • reneeradhika
    reneeradhika Posts: 12
    I'll be 40 this year and have been a vegetarian MY ENTIRE LIFE. I do eat dairy products, and eggs cooked into cookies or cakes or pasta, but do not eat plain eggs, fish, or seafood. I have never had a problem with protein, nor iron. Dark leafy veggies are enough iron, though it is not absorbed into your body quite as easily as red meat. However, I've never had low iron.

    Actually, the vegetarian diet is MUCH easier on the digestion process than eating lots of heavy meat. I'm in college to become an RN/RT so I've been taking course after course on anatomy and physiology and nutrition.

    I have a weight problem because I was eating a lot of carbs and cheese (pasta and cheese specifically) I've kept the dairy for protein, but dropped the high doses of carbs. Now, when I do eat pasta or bread, it's a measured amount and high fiber whole wheat.

    You do NOT need to eat meat to be healthy. Please... smh
  • daffodilsoup
    daffodilsoup Posts: 1,972 Member

    i repeat

    "I think that if you know how to properly supplement your diet, a vegan/vegetarian diet is fine. "

    most ppl who eat vegan DONT get enough fats. hence the health issues i reasoned about. -___-+

    You made a blanket statement of "vegan diets contain little to no fats". This is false and there is a ton of misinformation about animal-free diets here. Fat is not a "supplement" to a vegan/vegetarian diet, it is a central part of the vegan/vegetarian diet.
  • stargazer008
    stargazer008 Posts: 531
    Whatever you ignorant fool. There are no dangers if you eat properly no matter what the diet.
  • Emabo
    Emabo Posts: 125 Member
    Plants kill you. Meat kills you. Oxygen kills you. May as well go kill yourself.

    Guess so with how so many people on here think!
  • katnohat
    katnohat Posts: 43 Member
    Pshh. I have been vegetarian for five years and have never noticed any health issues at all.
  • albinogorilla
    albinogorilla Posts: 1,056 Member
    That might be true, but they're also the most successful. They can hunt virtually anything.

    But the question is, should they? Do they have a right to?

    Yes, and Yes
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    The truth of it is that it's really a choice like being a democrat or republican, apple or pc, etc. If you have a moral objection to eating meat, then don't eat it. If you don't like meat, don't eat it. If you don't have a moral objection to killing animals and enjoy eating meat, eat meat. Trying to claim that one is "better" than the other is absurd because the notion of "better" is too subjective.

    Pushy meat eaters and pushy vegetarians annoy me equally.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    It's very relevant, you're designed to hunt. That's the point. I personally don't care if someone is a vegan/vegeterian or not. That's not what my points are about. My points are on the hunting of animals.

    The way I hunt and the way the lion hunts are incomparable. I can't catch a deer/gazelle with my bare hands, and I certainly don't eat it bleeding and raw from the carcass. Man is the most pitiful hunter of the animal kingdom.
    No, humans are pack hunters, by evolution. Superior numbers to take down larger prey, like lions, who are also pack hunters. And you most certainly can eat it raw, humans did for many thousands of years. And they used that "intellect and reason" you mentioned before to design tools to make hunting easier.
  • angelashay42
    angelashay42 Posts: 286
    I became a vegetarian 2 years ago. I've never really liked the idea of eating dead flesh. It has always grossed me out but I (ignorantly) thought that it was the only way. That's how my family ate, so that's how I ate. However, as I learned more, met new people, and did some research about healthy alternatives, I realized that I could have a balanced, full diet without the blood and the flesh and carcasses of animals who deserve to live just as much as I do. Pigs are as intelligent as dogs. They have feelings and they families. Would you eat your dog?

    I think it's ignorance and poor upbringing that leads most Americans to blindly eat burgers made of questionable meat by-product served by a scary clown man.

    Is this a ****ing joke? "ignorance and poor upbringing"? You, yourself have just proven that even vegetarians can display mannerisms that would result from "ignorance and poor upbringing". Thank you :flowerforyou:

    I was simply commenting on the influence that fast food and junk food has over Americans who may not have the means or the education to make healthier choices. I just said it in a funny way, as to piss off people like you.
  • daffodilsoup
    daffodilsoup Posts: 1,972 Member
    That might be true, but they're also the most successful. They can hunt virtually anything.

    But the question is, should they? Do they have a right to?

    Yes, and Yes

    Thank you for adding to this conversation. I feel enlightened.
  • reneeradhika
    reneeradhika Posts: 12
    machdude... we do have them, although they are becoming less prominent. And if you really want to go there with dental talk, our jaws use to be much larger and we had one (or several) more molars, now called wisdom teeth. Not all of us have them, and when we do our jaw usually aches and we have them removed. Why? Evolution.
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