Should men get paternity leave from work?
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I do ALL the housework, cooking, cleaning (am spring cleaning right now), bills, laundry, yardwork, kid care and still have time to work part time and workout...........................and NEVER complain. In fact, I never really want to work full time again because I actually enjoy what I do now.Meh. Are you suggesting that the man would ACTUALLY help out during that time?!
Wait just a minute there....when my son was born 14 years ago, I took off six weeks and stayed home with him and my wife. During that six weeks, I got up with him everytime he cried in the night....every time he needed to be fed. During that six weeks, my wife did not have to wash or prepare one bottle. She did not have to do any laundry, or change the crib. I cooked for us and I cleaned and did dishes. I did the grocery shopping, the house cleaning. It gave her more time to actually bond with him instead of working, and it also gave me a lot of bonding time with both of them as well. So, please don't lump us all into one big group of assholes.
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Well said... I agree, not all men are like that. My fiance is an example of someone who isn't afraid of a little house work or helping me out. Actually he does most of it...lol He is great with kids too and would probably be the one to stay home while I work.
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Not until all women get paid maternity leave for at least 6 weeks. But yeah, I think a week or two paid would be nice.0
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LOL I thought the same thing! My hubs got 1 week off and it was nice for him to help me out and bond with the new addition.They already have that option here in Canaduh. Mat leave is 52 weeks paid (capped percentage of your prior income and your job must be held for you while you're gone. Men can take paternity leave but however many weeks they take is deducted from the mother's 52 weeks.
WHATTTTT??????? We get 6! 9 max, but the last 3 are without pay!0 -
The company I work for offers the same time (12 weeks paid) for new moms and dads.. and you can also take the same leave for adopting a child as well.0
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according to the Family and Medical Leave Act , fathers get a paid week off...0
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If their wives intend to let hubby help out, YES, they should get leave. If not, then no. My boss is taking two weeks, when my other bosses say last time his wife didn't let him do anything, and he ended up just laying around the house, wasting vacation time. So... *shrug* I think it depends on the situation. I hope my husband when I have one will want to be involved with the baby, and I'll want him involved, so I would hope he would take a couple weeks, and that's it.0
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Pretty sure he was joking...
This is such an ignorant view of Canada. We are FAR from being commies, we just take better care of our people! We happen to value life, health, family, and education, and we all pay to have these supports. Jealous? You should be, because we have all this AND FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!!!They already have that option here in Canaduh. Mat leave is 52 weeks paid (capped percentage of your prior income and your job must be held for you while you're gone. Men can take paternity leave but however many weeks they take is deducted from the mother's 52 weeks.
That's because yer a pack damn dirty commies!
I lived in the States for 8 years and you have no idea how many people I met who had this view, for real, so I have no way to know if he was joking or not!0 -
Already required by state and federal laws in the U.S. Start with the Family Medical Leave Act. End of discussion.0
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I'm in Canada and my brother to "parental leave" (what it is called) and spent time with his kids. His wife earned more money, she went back to work after about 6 months and he took the other 6 months to look after the kids. He loved it!0
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They do....it is called the Family Medical Leave Act. It even applies to adoption as well as birth. It is 3 months of leave with no pay but the benefits and position stay intact. My husband took a week's vacation after we had our 2nd.0
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Not only thatm, it sghould be required.0
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In canada you have 52 weeks of parentla leave
18 must be taken by the mother (in my case as a surrogate mother)
The rest can be taken by both parents or by the adoptive parents.
I think my husband was eligible for 7 weeks paid (5 weeks covered by QIP, 2 weeks by employer).
Should both parties be paid - not unless there was some kind of sickness of the child or birth mother that would require the father stay home.0 -
Yes, every parent deserves time with their new baby.0
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They already have that option here in Canaduh. Mat leave is 52 weeks paid (capped percentage of your prior income and your job must be held for you while you're gone. Men can take paternity leave but however many weeks they take is deducted from the mother's 52 weeks.
I take it you meant Canada0 -
Wait? You mean they don't have that option? My husband had the same option as I did to use the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) and take 6-12 weeks off, using sick, vacation, and/or unpaid time off.
If your husbands don't have that same option, I sersiously would be taking it up with HR and any state representatives necessary.
And yes, it would be nice to have a full 6-12 weeks paid across the board, but right now, this is what we got.0 -
I think it makes sense for the man to be there the first week. Then I would consider taking six weeks after she has exhausted her maternity leave. Generally, that would give the child 18 weeks of having a parent around.
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I won't be having any more kids, so this is just my opinion and won't be put in practice.0 -
My husband works at a hospital and he gets a month.0
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For sure. I had a terrible delivery and could barely walk for 3 weeks. My husband didn't get the time off. Good thing my Mom is a housewife and could drop everything and come stay with me!0
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FAmily Medical leave allows up to 16 weeks. Most often vacation/sick time accrued are used first the rest is leave without pay.0
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My partner works for the federal government in Canada and I am self-employed as a photographer and therefore do not pay into employment insurance and do not get "maternity leave". (I just work as much or as little as I want in the first year.) But since I don't take it my partner is eligible for the portion that is paternity leave and his work tops him up to what works out to be the same salary since the taxes are done differently. Therefore he was able to be home for 9 months with us and still fully paid. Maternity leave in the states is a joke and probably a good reason why breastfeeding rates are so abysmal there. Moms and babies need time together to bond. Strong families equal healthier children who become better members of society. Supporting families = building a better nation over time. The US really needs to examine their parental leave. They are only one of four countries in the entire world that doesn't mandate paid time off for new parents. Something needs to change there. I consider it a huge blessing how much time our family was able to be together. Being a parent to a newborn makes it very hard to wake up at 5 am (if you were sleeping at all) and drag your butt to an office. I doubt most people are very productive employees while parenting a 2 month old anyway!
maternity leave IS a joke here..........as is leave for when a family member dies.........try taking time off if you have lost a child!! I absolutely agree with everything you say.......and it makes me very sad............our families, our children, suffer horribly, and most people do not even realize it....
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I think so...maybe not as long as a woman but some time is in order...0
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Here in Canada, a couple (if there is a couple) is given 12 months leave from work (with 80-85% pay covered by the federal government).
How the heck did you get 80 - 85% covered by the government? Employment Insurance is not that high. The max you can get is just over $400 per week. That was not even 50% of my pay on mat leave0 -
My husband rarely takes all his vacation time so when our son came, he was able to take several weeks off and then went back half days for a few weeks. It was a good thing, too, because I was very ill for the first 6 weeks and recovering from my c-section.0
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Meh. Are you suggesting that the man would ACTUALLY help out during that time?!
Don't paint us all with the same brush. You can talik to my wife about that. Now, I'm not saying I didn't create more work for her when she recovered but I did my damndest to take care of her and all 3 of our baby girls while she was healing.0 -
I think men should get a time off every single month when its a TOM time. The stress from that at home and work its excruciating0
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well in Canada we are pretty lucky to get one year mat leave. Men can take parental leave as well - you have to split the time up with the mother. So she could have 6 months off and he could have 6 as well.0
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My husband was scheduled to take 2 weeks but since our son came 2 weeks early, he wound up getting a month. I think it was extremely helpful since I was breastfeeding and needed his help so I could get a random 1-2 hours of sleep every now and then. And I also didn't have to change diapers while he was there.
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Meh. Are you suggesting that the man would ACTUALLY help out during that time?!
Hmmm... I worked at home when my 1st arrived, I was there 24/7 for EIGHT months.
In the UK SMP (Stat Maternity Pay) is 9 months paid and 3 months unpaid. SPP (Paternity Pay) was two weeks for the Father, IMO not worth taking if you were in a stable/reasonably well paid job, as it's a fraction of your wage.
From April 2011 the leave is shared, so that if the Mother wants to return to work then the Father can use the remainder.0 -
Meh. Are you suggesting that the man would ACTUALLY help out during that time?!
Don't paint us all with the same brush. You can talik to my wife about that. Now, I'm not saying I didn't create more work for her when she recovered but I did my damndest to take care of her and all 3 of our baby girls while she was healing.
Well said. I guess some men aren't very helpful during that stage as others...0 -
This is such an ignorant view of Canada. We are FAR from being commies, we just take better care of our people! We happen to value life, health, family, and education, and we all pay to have these supports. Jealous? You should be, because we have all this AND FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!!!They already have that option here in Canaduh. Mat leave is 52 weeks paid (capped percentage of your prior income and your job must be held for you while you're gone. Men can take paternity leave but however many weeks they take is deducted from the mother's 52 weeks.
That's because yer a pack damn dirty commies!
Hmmm, ask the business owners who have to pay for all this federal overreach how much freedom they have when they are required by law to give employees 52 weeks off AND hold their jobs because they chose to have a baby.
I think a modest amount of paternity leave is a reasonable benefit for a company that seeks to attract and retain quality employees. I am not at all in favor of the government requiring it. That should be solely the decision of the person(s) who put everything on the line to build the business.0
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