"Lost 100lbs & found out what the world thinks of fat ppl"

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  • pg3ibew
    pg3ibew Posts: 1,026 Member
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    Brilliant read.
    I know someone who has gone from being incredibly thin to being over weight, and she has on a couple of occasions come crying to me. She can not believe how crule people can be towards her now that she is over weight.
    What makes people think that they can say these things and yes it is so much harder to get good jobs, even if you are more than qualified and experienced. Maybe us 'fatties' are to lazy to work? I dont know...

    I am not looking to stereo type here. Because I am a FATTY as well.
    My wife works in a fast food joint. They have what they call RUNNERS. People that get the food and bag it to bring to the counter after it is ordered. There is one girl there that happens to weigh in the 400 pound range. My wife hates working with her. The girl leans on the counter and doesn't move. She just reaches for things and doesn't move. And constantly asks others to grab things for her the she CAN'T reach. She is a good 3" taller than my wife and is constantly asking my wife to grab something she CAN'T reach. And to add to it, the other girls have to walk AROUND her all day, because she doesn't move. Is it because she is FAT? Is it because she is just plain LAZY? I don't know. But being in the 400 pound range is certainly not helping her.
  • Aryel168
    Aryel168 Posts: 126
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    Thanks for sharing- excellent read.
  • NC_Girl
    NC_Girl Posts: 177 Member
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    This has been a wonderful thread. I love hearing both sides and I, as confusing as it may sound, totally agree with both sides. I have been the big girl, no dates in school...not best friends with the popular (thinner girls) but I didn't let that stop me from smiling and saying hello. I've been the girl that men's mouth's drop open when I walk by.....and the one who never gets asked to dance with. To be honest I like the thin girl feeling. But I can also admit that I am the one who is in control. No one did this to me...I could blame it on sexual abuse, being taken away from my parents, being adopted...dumped....dissed.....but I can't, in all honesty, blame anyone but myself. There were times that the little disapproving voices would start to creep in but I immeadiatley chose to shut them out. Maybe that was ignorance, maybe it was a defence mechinism....either way.....I'm glad that I was able to and I can only wish that others could find this strength within themselves. I'm sure people used to talk about me...I did see the looks....but deep in my heart I KNOW who I am.....and no one can take that from me. Please all just love your selves and look deep for the strength to be all that you can be. Love yourself enough to find that strength to get healthy and the rest.....just enjoy it! Let the past go...and always treat others as you would like to be treated!
  • pg3ibew
    pg3ibew Posts: 1,026 Member
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    This has been a wonderful thread. I love hearing both sides and I, as confusing as it may sound, totally agree with both sides. I have been the big girl, no dates in school...not best friends with the popular (thinner girls) but I didn't let that stop me from smiling and saying hello. I've been the girl that men's mouth's drop open when I walk by.....and the one who never gets asked to dance with. To be honest I like the thin girl feeling. But I can also admit that I am the one who is in control. No one did this to me...I could blame it on sexual abuse, being taken away from my parents, being adopted...dumped....dissed.....but I can't, in all honesty, blame anyone but myself. There were times that the little disapproving voices would start to creep in but I immeadiatley chose to shut them out. Maybe that was ignorance, maybe it was a defence mechinism....either way.....I'm glad that I was able to and I can only wish that others could find this strength within themselves. I'm sure people used to talk about me...I did see the looks....but deep in my heart I KNOW who I am.....and no one can take that from me. Please all just love your selves and look deep for the strength to be all that you can be. Love yourself enough to find that strength to get healthy and the rest.....just enjoy it! Let the past go...and always treat others as you would like to be treated!

    Excellent. Well said. Everyone should read this. As a matter of fact, it should be a MUST read for everyone. Like, a post this on your fridge type of must read.
  • mheightchew
    mheightchew Posts: 334
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    Thank you so much for sharing! So true...
  • echoica
    echoica Posts: 339 Member
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    Thanks for posting this :)
  • Jezebel_Barbie
    Jezebel_Barbie Posts: 198 Member
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    I have never been slim so have no experience of what it's like on the other side. I can only hope it gets better though, as it can't be much worse than the attitudes people have towards you when you're overweight!

    One thing I've found is that people don't seem to view me as a 'fat girl' for some reason, probably because I've always been overweight they've never known me any other way, so people say the most AWFUL things about other fat people in front of me. I often have to reprimand people for saying incredibly cruel things and remind them 'Hey, fat girl standing right here' while thinking 'Jesus, so is that what you think of me?'. It's very hurtful and it definitely shows you another side to people.
  • grumpya
    grumpya Posts: 54 Member
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    In the Uk our government is actually using a rag of a newspaper (called the Daily Mail) to run a hate and ridicule campaign against fat people. One day there will be a story about 2,000 people who recieve sickness benefits because they are obese, another day a story about a documentary about a fat person. It goes on and on & every story has hundreds of comments on line some of them so foul it makes you feel it is not safe to leave the house. The reason why in a country where we are shocked at stories from other countries about predjudice? Because they want to stigmatise the overweight so they can cut treatments on the national health & so they can cut benefits. The trouble is the stigma that is created & the predjudice is counter productive because if the messages in the media say it is ok to hate fat people, our chances of getting a job become less, if we are denied treatment on the national health we are more likely to be on benefits.
    That same paper run a campaign against mobility scooters a while ago. Basically they said the only people who used them were old & incompetant & a danger or obese. I was disabled before I became fat but immediately I started to be treated as a second class citizen, people felt they could tell me to just leave that thing behind & walk. Did they really think in my 40s I would choose to use one of them if I could walk? But they had read it in the press it must be true.
    I think some people think it is catching if they socialise with a fat person they may catch it too. I do think though that these stories the slimming mags print where people claim before they lost the 50 or 60lbs they used to have 6 mars bars & 4 bacon sandwiches for breakfast. I certainly have never eaten like that I ate a bit too much when my activity levels went down to zero, put on 2 or 3 lbs a week & didn't stop in time. I'm sure most of the people on here did similar.
  • starryskies89
    starryskies89 Posts: 35 Member
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    Being fat is unattractive. This has been drilled into our minds our entire lives. Is it really suprising that overweight people are treated as less than, unworthy, and undeserving.
    We are all part of 'Society'. It's not just an entity that one can blame for all the Ill's in the world, it starts with us, when we move about and live in it, lets educate ourselves and not just inject vapid meaningless drivel into it all the time, and then expect it to somehow guide us in the right direction.
    I like the original article, I think it provokes many thoughts and viewpoints from people. It brings up emotional experiences and it exposes a side of prejudice that we don't see as often because it is not considered to be a very big deal.

    Deep down we all want admission to the Thin Club. We are told that we are unworthy and nasty so we believe it. And for many of the users that join this site, that is why they joined..! It fuels the diet and fitness industry. I antcipate the day when I will be treated differently, I actually expect that many more doors will open to me. I also believe my current relationships will be improved. This is sad in some ways, but I also recognize the world for what it is.

    The sad part is that no matter, fat or thin people are human and deserving of the same respect anyone else is, but we constantly judge people based on so many aspects, even as overweight people we judge others for different reasons and perhaps do not even realize it.
    I think it's that people do not know how to stop before they cross over into meanness and hurtful behavior, perhaps it's also a case of manners and respect being so lacking in people lately. Not so much an inability to stop as a lack of a reason to do so, especially when it's socially acceptable and funny to others in your group.

    We like to and should I say NEED to feel superior in some way to others, and so sieze upon some way that we can. I notice that it's very often previously fat people that are (in some cases) much more cruel and hurtful than people who have been thin their entire lives, they view the weightloss process (whatever way they achieved it) as deprivation and a terrible hardship on themselves. Then they see this fat and 'jolly' person enjoying what they 'couldn't' have; they become in a strange way, disdainful and jealous. They see themselves in that person, and become so frightened of going back to what they once were, maybe losing all of the psychological and social benefits that have come along with that weightloss.

    The Fat Vs. Thin debate, is only one of the many prejudices and injustices in the world today.

    I think you have to look at it in a larger context than just the current world. Has it always been percieved to be as unattractive is it is considered today? What is driving and motivating these social prejudices and what could encourage them to stop?
    Look at other prejudices, physical disabilities, racial, sexual, even what parts of the country or area of the world you come from. Wealth, money, or the lack thereof. Everything was considered at one time or another, to one group or another to be desirable and or terrible....
    Putting it in perspective helps me, I see how entangled I am, we are, and yet sometimes I see a glimmer of a different viewpoint, a different way of thinking and it puts me into another place entirely.


    **As a sidenote to my post, I want to point out that the Original Poster of this topic is not the author of the article. She copied it to be read and debated, it is clearly prefaced by her telling you that, and is also linked with a URL at the bottom. That seems to be a fact that people miss out on.**
  • TiasF
    TiasF Posts: 58 Member
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    Thank you to you all for reading! I think a lot definitely does have to do with confidence. I've been overweight my entire life & i've never (noticed) a door getting closed in my face... I've noticed ppl averting looks though. I think ppl have the right to have their preferences but the problem lies in the fact that being overweight becomes the "unforgivable sin" and that we are treated as second rate citizens because of something that affects us personally, & no one else. & most of us are trying to change it, so it's not fair that we get treated like crap until we are "better"
  • kealey1318
    kealey1318 Posts: 290 Member
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    There are so many things I want to say here. But I know what will happen. People will read them the wrong way and it will probably turn into an arguement.

    I have have my own weight issues which I am currently working on. I am married for more than 20 years with 3 teenaged sons. I am losing weight for me and my family.

    Let's put personalities, money, fame and fortune aside here for a minute and ask ourselves a few questions.

    Purely from a looks prespective.
    Men: Who are you more atracted to? RoseAnn Barr type or Cindy Crawford type?
    Women: Who would you rather look like? RaseAnn Barr or Cindy Crawford?
    Women: Who are you more atracted to? John Goodman type or George Clooney type?
    Men; Who would you rather look like? John Goodman type or George Clooney type?

    We all know the answers that 99 percent of society would give.

    Let's face it, blame society or whatever you want, but WE all want to be that good looking, well dressed, confident, head turner.

    And for the record, I was in LOVE with Anna Nicole Smith when she was the PLUS sized model for Guess jeans.

    While I'm not trying to reading your comments 'the wrong way', I don't quite understand your point... Of course if we had to choose between looking like either Roseanne Barr or Cindy Crawford, etc. most people would choose to look like the more 'in-shape' person. I doubt many would state otherwise...

    The letter was more about how people treat you when you are overweight/obese/morbidly obese/super-morbidly obese, as if the extra poundage you carry somehow makes you less of a person and unworthy of common courtesy, dignity and respect. Regardless of a person's age, gender, ethnicity, weight, handicap, etc., I do my utmost to treat them as I would like to be treated.

    ***Sidenote - It's often humorous/hurtful that people seem to think being fat is contagious... Their reaction is like a smile or acknowledgement of my existence would somehow translate to them catching some sort of communicable disease... or they must have smelled crap in their pants!***
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,670 Member
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    This reminds me of the documentary I watched where an African American went out looking for a job on his own, put in applications, resumes etc., then dressed up and put on make up to look White, applied for the same exact jobs and gave resumes of slightly less desirable results and ended up getting the jog.........................as a white man.

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  • DrJackson6
    DrJackson6 Posts: 156 Member
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    Great story!!!
  • fearie_jae
    fearie_jae Posts: 107 Member
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    Wow. Thank you for sharing. :)
  • nharden84
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    Thank you to everyone for reading it! I have read this article many times and it makes me cry. I am no where near my goal of 100 lbs lost, so it also gives me hope, but people always see a common denominator of losing the weight & feeling they can't trust anyone because those same ppl that hated them before now love them. It scares me to think of that. i am currently in love with my best friend. he knows, but says we are only friends. i fear that once i lose the weight he'll like me- and i'll just accept it. i dont want to be treated differently because of my weight but it is a reality for those of us suffering with being overweight.
    it's hard to think that some of my closest friends, who say "i look great the way i am" are secretly thinking that i look horrible and should lose weight. :(

    I know exactly how you feel. I teared up a couple of times. And it's sad but true. Can totally relate. I'm not at my goal weight of losing 100lbs either, but I can totally relate. I sometime question did my ex-husband leave me because I was fat . And when I lose the weight will he come back or even treat me differently. That makes me SAD. :( lol
  • funkycamper
    funkycamper Posts: 998 Member
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    Interesting story. I have heard of this and know others who have said it has happened to them, but I honestly can't relate. Even at my heaviest at 237#, I had people hold doors for me, help me pick up things if I dropped them, smile and say hello, whatever. And I honestly don't recall being treated rudely by anyone because of my weight. At my heaviest weight, I even had guys flirt with me and made new friends who were thin. I never felt ostracized or treated differently.

    I first gained weight when I became a young widow at age 22 and gained about 50# in just over 2 months. Yes, I was doing some serious emotional eating. I moved to Hawaii with a friend at that time as I needed a big change to get on with my life. I was 5'6", 180#, and guys danced with me, hit on me, asked me out...and some of these guys were pretty dang hot, imho. I made a lot of friends including some women who were beautiful, slender goddesses and I never felt like they treated me any different due to my extra weight. I'd be on the beach in a bathing suit and have guys flirt with me. And, believe me, at 180#, I didn't wear a bikini nor did I look super-good in my one-piece suit.

    I guess a part of me wonders if we are treated the way we expect to be treated and if we project things onto people that aren't there, i.e., someone is ignoring us because they had a bad day not because we're fat but some of us read something into it that isn't there.

    Even at my heaviest weight, I always thought I looked thinner than I really was. Pictures of myself always shocked me because I never thought I was as fat as I was. Maybe it's possible that, because of that, I carried myself with more confidence and, because of that, people responded positively?

    And, for example, unlike some of you, even if I was buying crap at the grocery store when I was at my heaviest weight, I never noticed people reacting to it. But, then again, I don't pay any attention to what they're buying either so why would I think they're paying attention to what I'm putting in my own cart? Just never occurred to me that this would be an issue.

    I don't know. I have no answers. I just think it's interesting how varied our experiences are. I feel bad for those of you who have experienced this.

    Oh, people that say rude things like guys calling out comments to someone for being overweight....rude people will be rude to anybody for anything, I believe. I remember being a young, slender gal at 120# walking down the street, not dressed sexy or anything like that, just walking along, and having guys make leering, sexual gestures and saying lewd things to me. Heck, I remember being about 13 or so and being on a carnival ride with a friend and having the carnie ask me if I was a "sexy mama". I didn't even know what he meant, I was so naive. Just knew it made me feel dirty. I'm betting that the same rude jerks who say things to overweight people say rude things to attractive women as well. I don't think any of us are exempt from socially-inept, immature dumbies.
  • PeaceCorpsKat
    PeaceCorpsKat Posts: 335 Member
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    I have experienced this personally... and I can say that in a wierd way I am happy I grew up morbidly obese. It gave me a lot of empathy that has motivated me to be a better person.

    I don't want to be "fat" because, as this article points out, it isn't pleasant - and there are benefits to not being fat, but I don't know if someone who hasn't lived the life of a morbidly obese person can understand. It is just something they will never get.

    I would like to think that the struggle has made me a better person, but that might just be a pipe dream
  • dodger7977
    dodger7977 Posts: 108 Member
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    Bump!
  • ampa916
    ampa916 Posts: 189 Member
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    While I agree with most of everything said here, it sounds like she is blaming these guys who "only slept with her and not dated her" for doing just that. Look, I agree that there is a stigma and a ton of abuse that hardly gets noticed by anyone else that goes with being over weight. But honey if you are giving yourself up that easily and that is not the kind of relationship you want than get out of it before it even happens. I have never had someone dump me because of my size! I wouldn't date someone that would!
  • lupitaalove
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    It's sad to think that fat-shaming is still one of the only socially acceptable forms of "abuse" left. As odd as it sounds, I'm thankful every day that I was overweight for 16 years+. Yes, I want to get healthy, but being "fat" taught me a sense of compassion and empathy for people I never would have been enlightened to without having experienced first-hand the inequality in treatment. Great story, thank you for sharing!

    Couldnt' have said it better!:)
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