How to calculate calorie goals according to NROLFW

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  • Travelfixer
    Travelfixer Posts: 137 Member
    Thank you for posting this. I just bought the kindle edition of this book, and started reading today, but had not hit any actual recommendations yet. E-books are a pain to flip back through, so I'm glad to have found this all laid out clearly!

    There should be a way to set "bookmarks" on your Kindle - it's very useful for books like NROLFW with charts, etc. hope that helps. :)

    Hey, I hope this helps... I have an older Kindle and I can set bookmarks. Here is how I do it. I just click the menu button when I'm on the page I want to bookmark. Then there is a "Add a bookmark" option. I just click it. Then, later, I can just open the book, click menu and click "View my notes and marks". It lists all of my notes and bookmarks, go to the one I want, click and it takes me there.

    I have n iPad, and ave kindle on it (I buy amazon books) and I can do that too, I bought the NROLFW book and have saved many bookmarks on it!
  • Sw33tKnees
    Sw33tKnees Posts: 119 Member
    A definite bump! We will see.. I am really short -- 5ft even!! :tongue:
  • glittermouse
    glittermouse Posts: 582 Member
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  • Coco_Puff
    Coco_Puff Posts: 823 Member
    New Rules of Lifting for Women suggests using these guidelines for calculating how many calories to eat each day:

    Step 1: Find your weight in Kilograms
    Take your weight and divide it by 2.2 = your weight in kilograms.
    For example, I weigh 131 lbs, so in kilograms I weigh 59.55 kg

    Step 2: Calculate your Resting Metabolic Rate
    Multiply your weight in kilograms by 7.18
    (MY example:) 59.55*7.18 = 427.54

    Now add 795
    795+427.54 = 1222.54
    We'll call that number X

    Step 3: Calculate your BMI
    Use this chart: http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/bmi_tbl.pdf
    For example, I am 68 inches and 131 lbs, so I am about a 20 BMI.

    Now:

    If your BMI is 18-24.9:
    Multiply X by:
    On non-workout days: 1.6
    On workout days: 1.8


    If your BMI is >25
    Multiply X by:
    On non-workout days: 1.5
    On workout days: 1.7

    So for me, I'll do
    Non-workout days: X = 1222.54 * 1.6 = 1956 calories
    Workout days: X = 1222.54*1.8 = 2201 calories


    Now, the book says that if you are also trying to lose lbs, you can subtract up to 300 cals from both days.

    So I can eat NO LESS THAN a NET calorie count of 1656 calories, or 1901 if I worked out that day.

    I'm starting at 1700/1950 for now, might go up a little more as my body gets used to eating this much. I was at 1300 so it is a big change for me!!!

    The book also recommends doing 40/30/30 carbs/fat/protein. To set all of these manually, you can do a custom goal setting in MFP.

    These calculations are approximations based off of averages, thus if you try it for a few weeks and you find it's not working how you want it to, then you can change it. The workout-days account for ~250 calorie burns because it is for ~30 min lifting sessions. If you do high intensity cardio one day and burn more than that, then you should eat more than that.

    Good luck to all!

    Hey, i know Alen Cosgrove is a fantastic author and has vast knowledge in training but weight loss really comes down to how much you want to lose and in how much time

    1. Fat is not metabolically active. for a kilo of fat to sit on your body you burn about an extra 2 calories a day. if someone is 30 kilos over wight that equation would let that person eat huge amounts of calories, i'm a male at 6ft and i don't need to eat any more than 2000 cals and that's on working and training days.

    2.your bmr is your bmr it wont change, you will have pretty much the same resting metabolic rate and the person who is the same sex and height as you. you metabolism is largly made of of your organs, bones and yea a little bit for muscle. but for you to function frm day to day just to stay alive...thats what you are actually eating for. if you eat less you will lose fat if you eat more you will gain

    i highly recomend you and anyone trying to lose weight. find out your bmr and eat 500 cals less as a bar minimum. if you want to lose fat faster it a little less each day. You will not starve!

    i highly recomend reading up on Eat stop Eat by brad Pilon

    My BMR is 1450.....so what you're suggesting is that I eat only 950? (1450-500=950) I can gaurantee you that at 950 calories a day, I would surely starve ;) lol.

    Thank goodness I have enough sense to research what my body needs, otherwise you would have just put me on the most ridiculous "diet" of my life lol.

    Somethings wrong with your numbers, once you do this, you'll find the number higher than you could think you could ever lose weight on, but it works cause your feeding your muscle. Everyone is ending up with numbers of 1800 and up. See if you missed a step. Hope that helps.
  • truecaligirl
    truecaligirl Posts: 132 Member
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  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Or just get you're weight in lbs x12 to get you're cal target. That is generally a good starting point. If you have an active job you may be able to go higher and if you have a sedentary job you may need to go a little lower. I'd never go lower than bwx10.

    And:
    protein min 1g/lb of LBM
    fat min .35g/lb of BW.

    Too easy :)

    And yes I TOTALLY agree that there are way too many people on 1200 cals here that don't need to be.
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  • keiraev
    keiraev Posts: 695 Member
    New Rules of Lifting for Women suggests using these guidelines for calculating how many calories to eat each day:

    Step 1: Find your weight in Kilograms
    Take your weight and divide it by 2.2 = your weight in kilograms.
    For example, I weigh 131 lbs, so in kilograms I weigh 59.55 kg

    Step 2: Calculate your Resting Metabolic Rate
    Multiply your weight in kilograms by 7.18
    (MY example:) 59.55*7.18 = 427.54

    Now add 795
    795+427.54 = 1222.54
    We'll call that number X

    Step 3: Calculate your BMI
    Use this chart: http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/bmi_tbl.pdf
    For example, I am 68 inches and 131 lbs, so I am about a 20 BMI.

    Now:

    If your BMI is 18-24.9:
    Multiply X by:
    On non-workout days: 1.6
    On workout days: 1.8


    If your BMI is >25
    Multiply X by:
    On non-workout days: 1.5
    On workout days: 1.7

    So for me, I'll do
    Non-workout days: X = 1222.54 * 1.6 = 1956 calories
    Workout days: X = 1222.54*1.8 = 2201 calories


    Now, the book says that if you are also trying to lose lbs, you can subtract up to 300 cals from both days.

    So I can eat NO LESS THAN a NET calorie count of 1656 calories, or 1901 if I worked out that day.

    I'm starting at 1700/1950 for now, might go up a little more as my body gets used to eating this much. I was at 1300 so it is a big change for me!!!

    The book also recommends doing 40/30/30 carbs/fat/protein. To set all of these manually, you can do a custom goal setting in MFP.

    These calculations are approximations based off of averages, thus if you try it for a few weeks and you find it's not working how you want it to, then you can change it. The workout-days account for ~250 calorie burns because it is for ~30 min lifting sessions. If you do high intensity cardio one day and burn more than that, then you should eat more than that.

    Good luck to all!

    Hey, i know Alen Cosgrove is a fantastic author and has vast knowledge in training but weight loss really comes down to how much you want to lose and in how much time

    1. Fat is not metabolically active. for a kilo of fat to sit on your body you burn about an extra 2 calories a day. if someone is 30 kilos over wight that equation would let that person eat huge amounts of calories, i'm a male at 6ft and i don't need to eat any more than 2000 cals and that's on working and training days.

    2.your bmr is your bmr it wont change, you will have pretty much the same resting metabolic rate and the person who is the same sex and height as you. you metabolism is largly made of of your organs, bones and yea a little bit for muscle. but for you to function frm day to day just to stay alive...thats what you are actually eating for. if you eat less you will lose fat if you eat more you will gain

    i highly recomend you and anyone trying to lose weight. find out your bmr and eat 500 cals less as a bar minimum. if you want to lose fat faster it a little less each day. You will not starve!

    i highly recomend reading up on Eat stop Eat by brad Pilon

    I can only assume what you mean is TDEE (Total Daily Estimated Expenditure) and not BMR because NOBODY should eat their BMR - 500 or they will die. Basically. Your BMR is what your body needs just to stay alive.
  • carrie_eggo
    carrie_eggo Posts: 1,396 Member
    If you don't want to do all that math for yourself there is a spreadsheet specific to NROL4W:

    http://maggiewang.com/2008/05/20/new-rules-of-lifting-for-women-diet-calculator-and-workout-logs

    Click the link in the white box in the middle of the page that says: Download: New Rules of Lifting for Women Diet Calculator and Workout Logs

    login: perturbation
    password: dominance

    :flowerforyou:
  • jchrisman717
    jchrisman717 Posts: 780 Member
    According to this basically I need to eat 1300 a day on nonworkout days and 1562 on workout days. Basically - I eat close to that so why am I not losing weight - sigh - so frustrating.
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    84jeepster Posts: 198 Member
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    Barribomb Posts: 260 Member
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  • jamiesadler
    jamiesadler Posts: 634 Member
    Thank you for posting this. I just bought the kindle edition of this book, and started reading today, but had not hit any actual recommendations yet. E-books are a pain to flip back through, so I'm glad to have found this all laid out clearly!

    You might want to buy the hard copy book. It is a great resource to flip through when you first start out with the program.
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    joeykat16 Posts: 81 Member
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    Iluvchopsticks Posts: 130 Member
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  • MaryDreamer
    MaryDreamer Posts: 439
    Waiting for my book to come in the mail! I upped my caloric goal to 1600 and exercise at least 300 cals daily leaving me a net of 1300 to lose 1 lb a week. I'm about to do the NROLFW formula provided now to see what I come up with. Or I can eat 1800 cals a day as long as I burn 500 calories in exercise to net at 1300. (1850 is my maintenance weight) We should subtract 500 calories from our Maintenance NOT our BMR. But we should net at our BMR. My BMR is 1400 so I net at a bit less than that for now. But I'm still a work in progress! Also my TDEE is 2219 - 333 (15%) = 1886 which should be my MAX net and my BMR of 1400 should be my MIN net. I'm terrified to eat on the high end right now, but can't wait to read the book!
  • lilRicki
    lilRicki Posts: 4,555 Member
    If you don't want to do all that math for yourself there is a spreadsheet specific to NROL4W:

    http://maggiewang.com/2008/05/20/new-rules-of-lifting-for-women-diet-calculator-and-workout-logs

    Click the link in the white box in the middle of the page that says: Download: New Rules of Lifting for Women Diet Calculator and Workout Logs

    login: perturbation
    password: dominance

    :flowerforyou:



    nope, it doesn't want to be displayed...that sucks, i need decent log sheets
  • carrie_eggo
    carrie_eggo Posts: 1,396 Member
    If you don't want to do all that math for yourself there is a spreadsheet specific to NROL4W:

    http://maggiewang.com/2008/05/20/new-rules-of-lifting-for-women-diet-calculator-and-workout-logs

    Click the link in the white box in the middle of the page that says: Download: New Rules of Lifting for Women Diet Calculator and Workout Logs

    login: perturbation
    password: dominance

    :flowerforyou:

    Aww....I'm sorry. I guess it doesn't work. :( It was really good too....sorry girls!
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  • MaryDreamer
    MaryDreamer Posts: 439
    Bummer I wish that link had worked, thanks anyway ladies! So I did the Math and came up with:

    1777 calories on Non-Workout days
    2036 calories on Workout days

    These numbers were after I subtracted 300 calories from each day to lose pounds. My original numbers were 2077 NW & 2336 W!

    I'm afraid VERY afraid LOL! I will bump up calories SLOWLY as long as I'm still losing! Right now I'm doing 1600 on W days and 1300 on NW days. (I still net 1300 on my workout days but I eat 1600)
  • lilRicki
    lilRicki Posts: 4,555 Member
    Bummer I wish that link had worked, thanks anyway ladies! So I did the Math and came up with:

    1777 calories on Non-Workout days
    2036 calories on Workout days

    These numbers were after I subtracted 300 calories from each day to lose pounds. My original numbers were 2077 NW & 2336 W!

    I'm afraid VERY afraid LOL! I will bump up calories SLOWLY as long as I'm still losing! Right now I'm doing 1600 on W days and 1300 on NW days. (I still net 1300 on my workout days but I eat 1600)


    don't be afraid...i was too when i had to increase my calories. but honestly it works. if you can't eat your calories, then drink them. smoothies packed with fruit, peanut butter, protein powder, what ever you can squeeze in there. You'll get use to it really quick lol
  • jkt1127
    jkt1127 Posts: 6
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  • RunHardBeStrong
    RunHardBeStrong Posts: 33,069 Member
    For those skeptical/scared of upping calories. I love this book!! I eat 1900-2200 cals everyday and lose on average a lb per week, lost 2 last week. More importantly then the scale though is the fact I am getting stronger and inches are falling off as are my clothes. Try it for at least 4 weeks, if you're eating low cals now you more than likely will see a gain at first but ride it out. It will even out and shift the other direction. Good luck!
  • Vonnie2006
    Vonnie2006 Posts: 246 Member
    Muahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thank you for sharing this! I had no idea what everyone was talking about or how to go about finding out and then I stumbled on this! You are a godsend!
  • vickystrand1
    vickystrand1 Posts: 47 Member
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    Great resource. :flowerforyou:
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    FAVORED1 Posts: 81 Member
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  • fittiephd
    fittiephd Posts: 608 Member
    Hey, i know Alen Cosgrove is a fantastic author and has vast knowledge in training but weight loss really comes down to how much you want to lose and in how much time

    1. Fat is not metabolically active. for a kilo of fat to sit on your body you burn about an extra 2 calories a day. if someone is 30 kilos over wight that equation would let that person eat huge amounts of calories, i'm a male at 6ft and i don't need to eat any more than 2000 cals and that's on working and training days.

    2.your bmr is your bmr it wont change, you will have pretty much the same resting metabolic rate and the person who is the same sex and height as you. you metabolism is largly made of of your organs, bones and yea a little bit for muscle. but for you to function frm day to day just to stay alive...thats what you are actually eating for. if you eat less you will lose fat if you eat more you will gain

    i highly recomend you and anyone trying to lose weight. find out your bmr and eat 500 cals less as a bar minimum. if you want to lose fat faster it a little less each day. You will not starve!

    i highly recomend reading up on Eat stop Eat by brad Pilon

    Your BMR is the basic amount your body needs to function. You should eat 3-500 less than your TDEE, not your BMR. If you eat less than your BMR then your body literally does not have enough calories to function. If you include your exercise AND your lifestyle activity in your BMR calculations, then yes, you can eat less than that because that is actually your TDEE NOT your BMR!!

    Everyone can believe whatever they want, but I'm just sharing the math and also I'll share some links here to multiple other threads where everyone is showing that they have eaten more and lost weight. Our bodies need food to survive, there is no reason to starve them.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/536603-lost-7-lbs-since-last-thursday-by-eating-more
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/539980-people-who-have-had-success-by-upping-their-calories
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/518533-major-sucess-with-higher-calories
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/541091-tossing-my-scale-out-the-window-pics
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/534457-before-and-after-pics-no-starvation
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/541385-terrified-to-increase-my-calories
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/540701-nsv-i-upped-my-calories-from-1200-to-1456-i-m-gonna-eat-m

    Everyone needs to make their own decision, but please do research on the topic and read up until you understand it and decide what is best for you. That was my biggest regret, was taking MFP's suggestions at face value and assuming they knew what they were doing. You should always research something related to your health and wellness before doing it.

    Good luck everyone! xox
  • fittiephd
    fittiephd Posts: 608 Member
    Muahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thank you for sharing this! I had no idea what everyone was talking about or how to go about finding out and then I stumbled on this! You are a godsend!


    Of course!!! I wish I could send it to every single MFPer .. :)
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  • OnWisconsin84
    OnWisconsin84 Posts: 409 Member
    THANK YOU!!