Are Fit women the most hated group in America?

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  • Ripken818836701
    Ripken818836701 Posts: 607 Member
    Why do people automatically assume someone is jealous if they don't happen to want to aspire to be a certain body type.
    Either way ... slim, curvy, muscular.

    Who gives a *kitten*?
    This^^^^

    Just because someone doesn't like a certain look doesn't mean they're jealous.
    Doesnt mean they have to say things like """ they would rather be a whale because a whale mates with one of whale for life and a mermaid sleeps with every sailor they come across"" either
    Umm who said that? Sounds pretty stupid and childish to me. I don't care what other people look like as long as people don't try to tell me what I should look like. As long as an opinion isn't forced upon me I couldn't care less.
    The same women that post the pics I provided.
    Also, why do these same women drool over men (like the one's below) but slam fit,slim women etc.?
    I don't slam "fit" women, but I also don't drool over any of the examples you just posted. That weird V muscle freaks me out
    Never said you did?? The thread doesnt have ""HorrorChix"" in the title.
    Way to be rude there buddy. I was just giving my opinion. Or are we not allowed to do that anymore?
    Not trying to be rude just pointing out that I wasnt claiming or accusing YOU or all women etc. of being jelous of, being rude to or slamming thin women but at the same time drooling over men with the same type of builds. Just the women that I'm speaking of that are FB. friends in my local area etc. And your not a FB. friend or live in my area but you did just make a rude comment (by the way) towards a certain body type right after you claimed that you dont slam fit women.
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    Thats your opinion etc., (different strokes for different folks) But why do you feel the need to slam any person's body type? (male or female) I was just posting examples of the male body type ( not including mine) that these same women ( not you) drool over but at the same time slam women with silimar builds.

    Oh I don't. I don't really care. I have been a tiny petite soft female, and I have been a voluptuous thick soft female, and now I'm a shapely petite athletic firm female. I sometimes miss my tininess, and I sometimes miss my huge boobs, but I like where I am right now. I pay more attention to myself than I do to anyone else. Every woman has something nice to look at.
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    So...no one read my post in Quagmire's voice huh? Bummer. :/
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
    So...no one read my post in Quagmire's voice huh? Bummer. :/

    I totally did and laughed imagining you "slamming" all of those guys, lol.
  • ebaymommy
    ebaymommy Posts: 1,067 Member
    I didn't read all the zillion posts (give or take a few) in this thread but just wanted to add that I personally get a lot of crap from people these days.

    I went from a soft and fairly fluffy 167lbs (and I have no idea what my BF% was, but I'm sure it was high) to what I am today in my profile pic - 124lbs, 20% BF. I take crap constantly and I hate it. So it's not politically correct to call someone out if their overweight but lose some pounds and your weight is everybody's business? I get the "You're too skinny. You should eat more. Why do you need to watch/track what you eat, you're already skinny. Have a donut/ice cream/cupcake/whatever treat they are trying to offer me."

    One of my running buddies (she's very, very fit, even more so than me) and I were talking about it one day....she gets a lot of comments to. We decided that, sadly, because fat seems to be the new "normal" that anyone who is actually a normal/healthy weight is looked at as being "too skinny."
  • Ripken818836701
    Ripken818836701 Posts: 607 Member
    So...no one read my post in Quagmire's voice huh? Bummer. :/
    I apologize, I missed it.
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    So...no one read my post in Quagmire's voice huh? Bummer. :/

    I totally did and laughed imagining you "slamming" all of those guys, lol.

    Giggity! Haha people take this stuff TOO seriously. :)
  • HorrorChix89
    HorrorChix89 Posts: 1,229 Member
    funny that you see that as him being rude when all he did was say he didn't direct the comment at you.
    :flowerforyou:
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    I didn't read all the zillion posts (give or take a few) in this thread but just wanted to add that I personally get a lot of crap from people these days.

    I went from a soft and fairly fluffy 167lbs (and I have no idea what my BF% was, but I'm sure it was high) to what I am today in my profile pic - 124lbs, 20% BF. I take crap constantly and I hate it. So it's not politically correct to call someone out if their overweight but lose some pounds and your weight is everybody's business? I get the "You're too skinny. You should eat more. Why do you need to watch/track what you eat, you're already skinny. Have a donut/ice cream/cupcake/whatever treat they are trying to offer me."

    One of my running buddies (she's very, very fit, even more so than me) and I were talking about it one day....she gets a lot of comments to. We decided that, sadly, because fat seems to be the new "normal" that anyone who is actually a normal/healthy weight is looked at as being "too skinny."

    That really bothers you?? Shoot, I like it when I hear things like that. "You're already in great shape, why do you need to work out?" "You eat so healthy! You make me feel bad!" "You're losing so much weight! How little are you trying to get?"

    I'm like...Yea, I'm pretty freakin awesome. Yes I'm losing weight. You should feel bad (j/k).
  • DFWTT
    DFWTT Posts: 374
    Middle class white men....the only unprotected class in America, but that's another thread.
  • ebaymommy
    ebaymommy Posts: 1,067 Member
    I didn't read all the zillion posts (give or take a few) in this thread but just wanted to add that I personally get a lot of crap from people these days.

    I went from a soft and fairly fluffy 167lbs (and I have no idea what my BF% was, but I'm sure it was high) to what I am today in my profile pic - 124lbs, 20% BF. I take crap constantly and I hate it. So it's not politically correct to call someone out if their overweight but lose some pounds and your weight is everybody's business? I get the "You're too skinny. You should eat more. Why do you need to watch/track what you eat, you're already skinny. Have a donut/ice cream/cupcake/whatever treat they are trying to offer me."

    One of my running buddies (she's very, very fit, even more so than me) and I were talking about it one day....she gets a lot of comments to. We decided that, sadly, because fat seems to be the new "normal" that anyone who is actually a normal/healthy weight is looked at as being "too skinny."

    That really bothers you?? Shoot, I like it when I hear things like that. "You're already in great shape, why do you need to work out?" "You eat so healthy! You make me feel bad!" "You're losing so much weight! How little are you trying to get?"

    I'm like...Yea, I'm pretty freakin awesome. Yes I'm losing weight. You should feel bad (j/k).

    It only bothers me to the extent that it would so NOT be viewed as OK if I did the reverse (made comments to an overweight person about how they should diet, eat less, workout more). Why does anybody need to be in my business if I'm not butting it to theirs?
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    I didn't read all the zillion posts (give or take a few) in this thread but just wanted to add that I personally get a lot of crap from people these days.

    I went from a soft and fairly fluffy 167lbs (and I have no idea what my BF% was, but I'm sure it was high) to what I am today in my profile pic - 124lbs, 20% BF. I take crap constantly and I hate it. So it's not politically correct to call someone out if their overweight but lose some pounds and your weight is everybody's business? I get the "You're too skinny. You should eat more. Why do you need to watch/track what you eat, you're already skinny. Have a donut/ice cream/cupcake/whatever treat they are trying to offer me."

    One of my running buddies (she's very, very fit, even more so than me) and I were talking about it one day....she gets a lot of comments to. We decided that, sadly, because fat seems to be the new "normal" that anyone who is actually a normal/healthy weight is looked at as being "too skinny."

    That really bothers you?? Shoot, I like it when I hear things like that. "You're already in great shape, why do you need to work out?" "You eat so healthy! You make me feel bad!" "You're losing so much weight! How little are you trying to get?"

    I'm like...Yea, I'm pretty freakin awesome. Yes I'm losing weight. You should feel bad (j/k).

    It only bothers me to the extent that it would so NOT be viewed as OK if I did the reverse (made comments to an overweight person about how they should diet, eat less, workout more). Why does anybody need to be in my business if I'm not butting it to theirs?

    Ohhhh. I guess I take it in a complimentary way rather than a meddling way.
  • Ripken818836701
    Ripken818836701 Posts: 607 Member
    Middle class white men....the only unprotected class in America, but that's another thread.
    Oh!! Where is it and what fourm?? I hate them!!:laugh:
  • DFWTT
    DFWTT Posts: 374
    Middle class white men....the only unprotected class in America, but that's another thread.
    Oh!! Where is it and what fourm?? I hate them!!:laugh:

    Just type in anything MSNBC or dot gov and you will be redirected post haste.
  • MsMargie1116
    MsMargie1116 Posts: 323 Member
    Being a big girl, I can say honestly, I'm not sure I'd call it jealosy, I'd just say that the "Fit" woman more or less challenges them. I have a great respect for women who keep themselves "Fit". It's really hard work, and if they would get out of their "Comfort Zone" they could be fit, too!!!
  • Ripken818836701
    Ripken818836701 Posts: 607 Member
    Middle class white men....the only unprotected class in America, but that's another thread.
    Oh!! Where is it and what fourm?? I hate them!!:laugh:

    Just type in anything MSNBC or dot gov and you will be redirected post haste.
    Dont forget CNN!:happy:
  • Carl01
    Carl01 Posts: 9,307 Member
    Middle class white men....the only unprotected class in America, but that's another thread.
    Oh!! Where is it and what fourm?? I hate them!!:laugh:

    Just type in anything MSNBC or dot gov and you will be redirected post haste.

    Or prime time sitcoms where almost every man for nearly 30 years has been portrayed as an incompetent dolt who couldn`t find his way twice around a flag pole.
  • Jadedone, here is the today's example,
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    that picture ticks me off, really. Just because I'm fit doesn't mean I don't have curves and am not a real woman. It just means I have a lower body fat percentage.

    I know!! It's ridiculous that people think it's an all or nothing kind of thing.
  • Ok coming from someone who had been both super fat(now) and super skinny(back in the day), I'd rather be healthy and fit (by a MD's guidelines not necessarily a skewed mans) and trust me when I say skinny(fit) women are by far not the most hated...in fact I would go to the opposite extreme and say fat women are more hated. People tend to think we are lazy and eat everything we arn't supposed to, they do not treat us the same(trust me I"ve seen this in full swing). As a skinny girl I got lots of attention from men(probably the wrong attention), I had plenty of friends. As a fat girl, friends drop(best way to decide who your friends are is to get fat), and people tend to think I'm lazy although I'm actually a very hard worker. It will be interesting to see if my opinion changes as I get healthy(I prefer this term over skinny or fat because skinny is not necessarily healthy). Everyone has their own opinions and are attracted to certain type of body or person. As a fat women in America I have dated every body type out there...and prefer a healthy gentlemen with a great personality over a buff dude thats an a**. But thats just my opinion!
  • prism6
    prism6 Posts: 484 Member
    wasn't this community thing supposed to help people of all sizes be the best they can be...I am starting to see this as another form of facebook...
  • Simple answer: Fat bashing is not okay. Skinny bashing is.

    I must be living in a completely alternate reality. I don't know, maybe America is different but fat bashing is the most (or only) acceptable form of discrimination here. I see people fat bashing on the internet every day. Not to mention all the negative stereotypes associated with being overweight - laziness, gluttony, greed, lack of willpower. What stereotypes are associated with people of a healthy BMI? That they eat healthy, workout, they take care of themselves, etc. etc. Doesn't matter whether that's actually true or not, this is still the assumption of most people.

    Really,because when I was a t a normal weight I was told to eat a hamburger daily,called anoreix,called vain,had a bumper sticker stuck on mailbox that said I hate skinny *****es ect

    Minus the bumper sticker, that's all happened to me! And I'm SOOO not anorexic looking. In high school I even had a lunch lady CALL MY MOM to tell her that she thought I was anorexic. Next day at school I told her to get her eyes checked and mind her own d*** business lol. Just because I packed a healthy lunch instead of getting the high calorie/high fat/poor nutrition food served in the cafeteria, and only bought water and a piece of fruit, she assumed I was anorexic. I'm not even the skinniest girl on my volleyball team, or any team I've ever been on, for that matter. Not even close. Usually one of the least skinny. I don't understand the mentality of hating on people just because they're different. I could easily hate on the people that get to eat whatever food they want to all the time, but I don't. Because it's not really their fault (whether they have a super fast metabolism, or are just happy with a much curvier body).

    It's ridiculous how judgmental our society can be, whether towards women who are skinny or overweight.
  • Andi, thats exactly what your friends are doing! Putting down skinny girls to make themselves feel better about their own situation! That is skinnybashing. And a person has to be pretty pathetic to make others feel bad about themselves in order for them to""" feel better about their own situation."""


    happens all of the time and its sad.

    This!!! Not the most hated. Fat women are hated. I have had things thrown at me, names called by strangers, refused service to me, dirty looks and laughed at and was even told by a car salesman I was to fat for a car I was going to buy. All for being fat. AND all by ADULTS.

    I'm sorry that someone thought that any of that was acceptable behavior, because its not. Just as its not acceptable for someone to tell a smaller person to eat a cheeseburger, etc. We really need to start respecting others a little more.

    Where's the "like" button when I need it?!!?! lol
  • Back in Jan. while at the doctors a nurse came into the exam room while I was waiting for my Dr. and went over my BMI with me. She told me that at 6"1 and 217-218 lbs ( 3-4 lb.'s more than I weighed in my profile pic.) I was obese!! She then started making suggestions about how I could lower my BMI. and had me sign and date a form. I got pissed because I had just spent the entire past year busting my *kitten* in order to not be considered obese so I took off my shirt (was going to have to anyway) and asked her to please point out on my body were she thought I could lose enough fat so I wouldnt be considered obese. BMI Is a Joke!!
    The nurse was wrong. 6-1, 218 is not obese according to BMI, it's overweight. Also, BMI is not a good indicator for persons that do a lot of weight training. At least they were wrong about that and not something that matters, like reading your x-ray.
    I dont think she was wrong, there was was a chart/ graph and it showed where i was last year, where I was at this year, how far away I was from being over weight, healthy etc. All she did was punch my age, height and weight into the computer and printed it out.
    Is age a factor for BMI.? I'm 42.

    Using a calculator like that doesn't take into account how much of your body's weight is from muscle, and how much is fat.
  • Ripken818836701
    Ripken818836701 Posts: 607 Member
    Andi, thats exactly what your friends are doing! Putting down skinny girls to make themselves feel better about their own situation! That is skinnybashing. And a person has to be pretty pathetic to make others feel bad about themselves in order for them to""" feel better about their own situation."""


    happens all of the time and its sad.

    This!!! Not the most hated. Fat women are hated. I have had things thrown at me, names called by strangers, refused service to me, dirty looks and laughed at and was even told by a car salesman I was to fat for a car I was going to buy. All for being fat. AND all by ADULTS.

    I'm sorry that someone thought that any of that was acceptable behavior, because its not. Just as its not acceptable for someone to tell a smaller person to eat a cheeseburger, etc. We really need to start respecting others a little more.

    Where's the "like" button when I need it?!!?! lol
    LOL!
  • TriciaZ944
    TriciaZ944 Posts: 317 Member
    I didn't read all the posts but personally I prefer to be fit. I think muscles are sexy but that is my preference. My coworkers bash the fit look because they think it is too skinny and feel like a woman should be "soft". I just smile and do my own thing because there is no sense in arguing over individual preferences. I do not agree with someone telling me I need to go eat a cookie just because I'm trying to be healthy.
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
    Andi, thats exactly what your friends are doing! Putting down skinny girls to make themselves feel better about their own situation! That is skinnybashing. And a person has to be pretty pathetic to make others feel bad about themselves in order for them to""" feel better about their own situation."""


    happens all of the time and its sad.

    This!!! Not the most hated. Fat women are hated. I have had things thrown at me, names called by strangers, refused service to me, dirty looks and laughed at and was even told by a car salesman I was to fat for a car I was going to buy. All for being fat. AND all by ADULTS.

    I'm sorry that someone thought that any of that was acceptable behavior, because its not. Just as its not acceptable for someone to tell a smaller person to eat a cheeseburger, etc. We really need to start respecting others a little more.

    Where's the "like" button when I need it?!!?! lol


    aw, I'm right here, our new friendship was the 'like' button. There's ALWAYS a silver lining, see? Out of negativity came positivity. :bigsmile:
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
    funny that you see that as him being rude when all he did was say he didn't direct the comment at you.
    :flowerforyou:

    aren't you a sweetheart, giving me a flower? Bless your little heart.
  • Andi, thats exactly what your friends are doing! Putting down skinny girls to make themselves feel better about their own situation! That is skinnybashing. And a person has to be pretty pathetic to make others feel bad about themselves in order for them to""" feel better about their own situation."""


    happens all of the time and its sad.

    This!!! Not the most hated. Fat women are hated. I have had things thrown at me, names called by strangers, refused service to me, dirty looks and laughed at and was even told by a car salesman I was to fat for a car I was going to buy. All for being fat. AND all by ADULTS.

    I'm sorry that someone thought that any of that was acceptable behavior, because its not. Just as its not acceptable for someone to tell a smaller person to eat a cheeseburger, etc. We really need to start respecting others a little more.

    Where's the "like" button when I need it?!!?! lol


    aw, I'm right here, our new friendship was the 'like' button. There's ALWAYS a silver lining, see? Out of negativity came positivity. :bigsmile:

    True, I suppose that is a good way to look at it :happy:
  • Ripken818836701
    Ripken818836701 Posts: 607 Member
    Ok coming from someone who had been both super fat(now) and super skinny(back in the day), I'd rather be healthy and fit (by a MD's guidelines not necessarily a skewed mans) and trust me when I say skinny(fit) women are by far not the most hated...in fact I would go to the opposite extreme and say fat women are more hated. People tend to think we are lazy and eat everything we arn't supposed to, they do not treat us the same(trust me I"ve seen this in full swing). As a skinny girl I got lots of attention from men(probably the wrong attention), I had plenty of friends. As a fat girl, friends drop(best way to decide who your friends are is to get fat), and people tend to think I'm lazy although I'm actually a very hard worker. It will be interesting to see if my opinion changes as I get healthy(I prefer this term over skinny or fat because skinny is not necessarily healthy). Everyone has their own opinions and are attracted to certain type of body or person. As a fat women in America I have dated every body type out there...and prefer a healthy gentlemen with a great personality over a buff dude thats an a**. But thats just my opinion!
    I'm not calling anybody else lazy but If they called me lazy they would be correct. Even though I worked 6 days a week and made sure my daughter wanted for nothing, I got fat from eating too much, going thru the drive thru of a fast food joint for lunch etc. instead getting out of my car and walking into a place and getting something healthier etc. And laying on the couch, watching tv.or living on the net. during any me time I had. And I suspect that the fat epidemic has alot to do with people just like me.
  • Ripken818836701
    Ripken818836701 Posts: 607 Member
    Back in Jan. while at the doctors a nurse came into the exam room while I was waiting for my Dr. and went over my BMI with me. She told me that at 6"1 and 217-218 lbs ( 3-4 lb.'s more than I weighed in my profile pic.) I was obese!! She then started making suggestions about how I could lower my BMI. and had me sign and date a form. I got pissed because I had just spent the entire past year busting my *kitten* in order to not be considered obese so I took off my shirt (was going to have to anyway) and asked her to please point out on my body were she thought I could lose enough fat so I wouldnt be considered obese. BMI Is a Joke!!
    The nurse was wrong. 6-1, 218 is not obese according to BMI, it's overweight. Also, BMI is not a good indicator for persons that do a lot of weight training. At least they were wrong about that and not something that matters, like reading your x-ray.
    I dont think she was wrong, there was was a chart/ graph and it showed where i was last year, where I was at this year, how far away I was from being over weight, healthy etc. All she did was punch my age, height and weight into the computer and printed it out.
    Is age a factor for BMI.? I'm 42.

    Using a calculator like that doesn't take into account how much of your body's weight is from muscle, and how much is fat.
    Thats what my Dr. explained to me when he came in. He also said that BMI. was useless but he is rquired to go over it. with every patient. But it was the very same Dr. appointment in Jan 2011 when my BMI results told me I was obese and also being told that I was a prime canidate for Type II Diabetes while already on HB. and Col. meds that I started eating healthy and exercising. But one year later, after busting my butt in the gym, and losing 83 lbs I was still considered obese by BMI standards. Being told that by the nurse really pissed me off.
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