I hate water

A simple fix for me was to drink Ice water, it sounds stupid, but having cold water makes all the difference for me. I don't "need" ice in my water all the time any more, but it was very necessary when I started to increase my water intake.

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

I asked for sources that caffeine was linked to muscle cramps, which he asserted. I back checked the sources the article references, and they really don't fully support the conclusion. One cited article cites a an article in the American Journal of Medicine in which a study with a sample size of one--he was his own control-- which seemed to imply caffeine was linked to muscle spasms. Of the other three sources, one doesn't mention caffeine, the other two don't mention cramps. But I believe he was addressing me with "Here's the citation you called for" comment. I find the evidence interesting but not compelling.

The best thing I have ever done for my health is a 7 day detox - 2 servings of fruit a day, 1 serving of meat, all the veggies I wanted. No fats (butter, oils, etc) but herbs and spices were OK. It was really hard, but when it was over I found that I loved water and completely eliminated my sweet tea addiction. I used to drink nearly a gallon every day (with about 1 cup of sugar in it!)

I used to literally gag when trying to force myself to drink water. A year later and I'm still amazed by this change. I drink 2-3 qts of water a day.

That's great, but the OP asked for things she could drink besides water to hydrate her. Replying, essentially, "water" isn't really an answer.

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

I asked for sources that caffeine was linked to muscle cramps, which he asserted. I back checked the sources the article references, and they really don't fully support the conclusion. One cited article cites a an article in the American Journal of Medicine in which a study with a sample size of one--he was his own control-- which seemed to imply caffeine was linked to muscle spasms. Of the other three sources, one doesn't mention caffeine, the other two don't mention cramps. But I believe he was addressing me with "Here's the citation you called for" comment. I find the evidence interesting but not compelling.

Gotcha, I must've missed the muscle cramps part of the discussion.

Add Propel Zero to your water - it makes it taste great and it comes in many different flavors. My favorite is grape.

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

It wasn't in reply to hydration. It was in reply to my input earlier, saying that too much caffeine can cause muscle cramps. I'm not getting into this war you guys have going on when it comes to water and other sources of hydration. I merely suggested a way for her to try to learn to like water. I myself have suffered from muscle cramps in my legs when I had absolutely nothing to drink all day except caffeinated drinks. That is when I looked up any possible causes for it and found the link between my day and possible causes was caffeine intake. And I believe I found it on webmd.com, not this article.

Like I said though, I'm not getting in on this war you guys have going on. I didn't say anything about hydration.

Muscle leg cramps are generally caused by Potassium deficiency, in like 99% of everything I've read. I'm not sure if caffeine has any effect on potassium metabolism or not, like it does with calcium (caffeine was the culprit behind the "phosphoric acid leaches calcium " argument against soda. The really interesting thing about the results from the studies about it showed that caffeine consumption increased calcium loss during consumption, but the human body decreased calcium loss for the remainder of the day, leading to a 24 hour net difference of zero compared to a control group that consumed no caffeine.)

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

It wasn't in reply to hydration. It was in reply to my input earlier, saying that too much caffeine can cause muscle cramps. I'm not getting into this war you guys have going on when it comes to water and other sources of hydration. I merely suggested a way for her to try to learn to like water. I myself have suffered from muscle cramps in my legs when I had absolutely nothing to drink all day except caffeinated drinks. That is when I looked up any possible causes for it and found the link between my day and possible causes was caffeine intake. And I believe I found it on webmd.com, not this article.

Like I said though, I'm not getting in on this war you guys have going on. I didn't say anything about hydration.

The thing is, she didn't ask for ways to like plain water. She asked for things to make hydration taste "not like water." As I pointed out, there has not been proved a causative connection, nor even really a correlative one, between caffeine and cramps. One guy doesn't a study make. It's interesting. It is. I'll be watching it. But your personal anecdotal evidence adds nothing to the already skimpy scientific data.

And that's fine, that she didn't ask for ways to like water, but what's wrong with people suggesting ways for her to try? And you know, just because my experience doesn't help prove anything, does that mean I'm not supposed to say anything about it? I am taking evening primrose oil supplement, and the nurse at my doctor's office said that it can make your breasts very sore and tender. Just because she didn't give me scientific sources, does that mean I shouldn't believe her? Does that mean she shouldn't have said anything to me? This website is for people to help each other, and that is what all of us are offering, except for some of you who are picking on people and saying "prove it! prove it!" to our suggestions. Not all of us run to the computer to check sources when we hear of somebody's experience or opinion to prove them wrong or right. Forgive me for having better things to do with my time. But not all of us are completely gullible believing everything we hear either.

I'm sorry, I was just offering something from my own struggles and experience. I used to gag when trying to drink water, too.

We are so bombarded with chemicals, fake flavors and over-use of sugars that we've trained ourselves into thinking something plain is disgusting. It took a week of removing that crap from diet to appreciate water for what it was.

I'm sorry, I was just offering something from my own struggles and experience. I used to gag when trying to drink water, too.

We are so bombarded with chemicals, fake flavors and over-use of sugars that we've trained ourselves into thinking something plain is disgusting. It took a week so of removing that crap from diet to appreciate water for what it was.

Fine. But there is no REASON to do it. It isn't BETTER to drink plain water. If you want to, thats one thing. But if someone doesn't want to, It's not necessary.

I'm sorry, I was just offering something from my own struggles and experience. I used to gag when trying to drink water, too.

We are so bombarded with chemicals, fake flavors and over-use of sugars that we've trained ourselves into thinking something plain is disgusting. It took a week so of removing that crap from diet to appreciate water for what it was.

Fine. But there is no REASON to do it. It isn't BETTER to drink plain water. If you want to, thats one thing. But if someone doesn't want to, It's not necessary.

Here's a simple test - drink some Crystal Light in your water or some Diet Coke or even Regular coke for a day. Then walk 5 miles. Do it again a few days later after drinking water. You're body will tell you what the difference is. What you put into your body * absolutely* affects how you feel and function.

I'm not arguing with you, I was trying to be helpful and you're just trolling.

If you read his responses - he is absolutely not trolling - all of his responses, when asked, have been supported by well documented research - that is NOT trolling.

I'm sorry, I was just offering something from my own struggles and experience. I used to gag when trying to drink water, too.

We are so bombarded with chemicals, fake flavors and over-use of sugars that we've trained ourselves into thinking something plain is disgusting. It took a week so of removing that crap from diet to appreciate water for what it was.

Fine. But there is no REASON to do it. It isn't BETTER to drink plain water. If you want to, thats one thing. But if someone doesn't want to, It's not necessary.

Here's a simple test - drink some Crystal Light in your water or some Diet Coke or even Regular coke for a day. Then walk 5 miles. Do it again a few days later after drinking water. You're body will tell you what the difference is. What you put into your body * absolutely* affects how you feel and function.

I'm not arguing with you, I was trying to be helpful and you're just trolling.

The caffeine in the soda will actually provide a boost to athletic and endurance performance, as well as provide a boost to fat burning during the walk. So, an interesting test, but from what controlled studies have been done on it, you'd have better results with the soda over the water.

I've done it both ways, for me, I need the sugar to keep glycogen going when I exercise, so milk, juice, and even soda re always a much better pre workout option than water. And the majority of the research concurs.

I'm sorry, I was just offering something from my own struggles and experience. I used to gag when trying to drink water, too.

We are so bombarded with chemicals, fake flavors and over-use of sugars that we've trained ourselves into thinking something plain is disgusting. It took a week so of removing that crap from diet to appreciate water for what it was.

Fine. But there is no REASON to do it. It isn't BETTER to drink plain water. If you want to, thats one thing. But if someone doesn't want to, It's not necessary.

Here's a simple test - drink some Crystal Light in your water or some Diet Coke or even Regular coke for a day. Then walk 5 miles. Do it again a few days later after drinking water. You're body will tell you what the difference is. What you put into your body * absolutely* affects how you feel and function.

I'm not arguing with you, I was trying to be helpful and you're just trolling.

Well, some of the most prestigious scientists in this field in the US, at the Mayo Clinic, say that ain't so. It's not trolling to tell people the truth when so much broscience is being spread around.

I'm sorry, I was just offering something from my own struggles and experience. I used to gag when trying to drink water, too.

We are so bombarded with chemicals, fake flavors and over-use of sugars that we've trained ourselves into thinking something plain is disgusting. It took a week so of removing that crap from diet to appreciate water for what it was.

Fine. But there is no REASON to do it. It isn't BETTER to drink plain water. If you want to, thats one thing. But if someone doesn't want to, It's not necessary.

Here's a simple test - drink some Crystal Light in your water or some Diet Coke or even Regular coke for a day. Then walk 5 miles. Do it again a few days later after drinking water. You're body will tell you what the difference is. What you put into your body * absolutely* affects how you feel and function.

I'm not arguing with you, I was trying to be helpful and you're just trolling.

If you read his responses - he is absolutely not trolling - all of his responses, when asked, have been supported by well documented research - that is NOT trolling.

Thanks for the support! Just so you know, though, I'm not a "he." I'm a "she." I like your replies as well. I'm an Aspie, so I sometimes have a hard time with how I word things. Please know I intend this as sincere thanks. I just wanted you to know I'm female.

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

It wasn't in reply to hydration. It was in reply to my input earlier, saying that too much caffeine can cause muscle cramps. I'm not getting into this war you guys have going on when it comes to water and other sources of hydration. I merely suggested a way for her to try to learn to like water. I myself have suffered from muscle cramps in my legs when I had absolutely nothing to drink all day except caffeinated drinks. That is when I looked up any possible causes for it and found the link between my day and possible causes was caffeine intake. And I believe I found it on webmd.com, not this article.

Like I said though, I'm not getting in on this war you guys have going on. I didn't say anything about hydration.

The thing is, she didn't ask for ways to like plain water. She asked for things to make hydration taste "not like water." As I pointed out, there has not been proved a causative connection, nor even really a correlative one, between caffeine and cramps. One guy doesn't a study make. It's interesting. It is. I'll be watching it. But your personal anecdotal evidence adds nothing to the already skimpy scientific data.

And that's fine, that she didn't ask for ways to like water, but what's wrong with people suggesting ways for her to try? And you know, just because my experience doesn't help prove anything, does that mean I'm not supposed to say anything about it? I am taking evening primrose oil supplement, and the nurse at my doctor's office said that it can make your breasts very sore and tender. Just because she didn't give me scientific sources, does that mean I shouldn't believe her? Does that mean she shouldn't have said anything to me? This website is for people to help each other, and that is what all of us are offering, except for some of you who are picking on people and saying "prove it! prove it!" to our suggestions. Not all of us run to the computer to check sources when we hear of somebody's experience or opinion to prove them wrong or right. Forgive me for having better things to do with my time. But not all of us are completely gullible believing everything we hear either.

Wait. I'm "gullible" because I don't accept scientific assertions without evidence to back it up? Is this a new definition of "gullible" I'm unfamiliar with?

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

It wasn't in reply to hydration. It was in reply to my input earlier, saying that too much caffeine can cause muscle cramps. I'm not getting into this war you guys have going on when it comes to water and other sources of hydration. I merely suggested a way for her to try to learn to like water. I myself have suffered from muscle cramps in my legs when I had absolutely nothing to drink all day except caffeinated drinks. That is when I looked up any possible causes for it and found the link between my day and possible causes was caffeine intake. And I believe I found it on webmd.com, not this article.

Like I said though, I'm not getting in on this war you guys have going on. I didn't say anything about hydration.

The thing is, she didn't ask for ways to like plain water. She asked for things to make hydration taste "not like water." As I pointed out, there has not been proved a causative connection, nor even really a correlative one, between caffeine and cramps. One guy doesn't a study make. It's interesting. It is. I'll be watching it. But your personal anecdotal evidence adds nothing to the already skimpy scientific data.

And that's fine, that she didn't ask for ways to like water, but what's wrong with people suggesting ways for her to try? And you know, just because my experience doesn't help prove anything, does that mean I'm not supposed to say anything about it? I am taking evening primrose oil supplement, and the nurse at my doctor's office said that it can make your breasts very sore and tender. Just because she didn't give me scientific sources, does that mean I shouldn't believe her? Does that mean she shouldn't have said anything to me? This website is for people to help each other, and that is what all of us are offering, except for some of you who are picking on people and saying "prove it! prove it!" to our suggestions. Not all of us run to the computer to check sources when we hear of somebody's experience or opinion to prove them wrong or right. Forgive me for having better things to do with my time. But not all of us are completely gullible believing everything we hear either.

Wait. I'm "gullible" because I don't accept scientific assertions without evidence to back it up? Is this a new definition of "gullible" I'm unfamiliar with?

No. I'm saying I'm not gullible for believing water is good for me.
I'm also saying that just because I don't look for scientific evidence doesn't mean I automatically believe what I hear.
And btw, I am also a girl, as you referred to me as a he earlier. I'm the girl in my picture, not the guy. That's my husband.