ignorance about obesity on MFP

Ignorance?

People get obese bc of themselves, that's all. Anything is fixable. Including being overweight.

Please elaborate...
I gained a ton of weight because I have a medical condition called PCOS. Unfortunately for me, it makes it much harder for me to lose the weight. I also gained weight when I was pregnant. I fail to see how a medical condition is "because of me". I'm not saying that I can't lose the weight or don't want to or that I have to have the fat sucked out or anything like that. I'm just saying that it's more difficult and that I'm more prone to gaining because of the condition.

PCOS didn't MAKE you gain weight. Calories did. I have PCOS as well. YES it is difficult to lose weight but in the end, our former lifestyles and eating habits made us fat. PERIOD. I cut back carbs, started exercising more and lost my first 25 lbs pretty quickly, then some more. It is possible.

No offense but I often feel people use medical conditions as a crutch or excuse. Too many CALORIES make you gain weight, nothing else.

the point is THIS IS A FITNESS WEBSITE!!!! Everyone here is wanting a CHANGE in themselves, regardless of what brought us here, we are here and don't need to be put down for WHATEVER reason

NO ONE is putting down the people that are making a change. They're putting down the ones who aren't.

Thank you :flowerforyou: You are my hero

eR'BODY JUS CRAY.

now THAT horse has been airbrushed!

Fatphobia is rampant on MFP, just like everywhere else in society. People just tend to be more vocal about it on here. Probably because some come on here purely because of their hatred of their own and others fat.

I just wish I had more spoons to fight for body acceptance and fat acceptance on here. Right now I don't even click on the fat-hate threads, let alone read them or try to educate people. Maybe one day.

Nicely put.

I have never seen a fat bashing thread. If they exist, they are culled quite quickly. Skinny bashing, on the other hand....every where. Including people being accused of have eating disorders or using steroids.

I talk about obese bashing becasue it was rampid this week and yes it strikes a nerve. I have never bashed skinny people as I used to be extremely skinny and accused of the same thing. I think a general stomp on negativity is the point.

Skinny bashing is much worse, hell my freaking SUCCESS STORY got hijacked the other day by crazy *kitten* people, calling me rude and terrible things. If anything, there should be an anti skinny bashing thread.

Exactly, but that anti skinny bashing thread turned into another ED argument.

Oh right, I forgot that. Y'know because all skinny people have an ED. :P

I saw your success story thread, and I was SHOCKED at the rudeness!

I might be batting for the wrong team (still being morbidly obese myself), but I tend to agree that there is more 'skinny' bashing or 'strong' bashing than fat bashing around these parts.

I've seen threads where someone has posted pictures of them after losing weight, and lifting heavy and OBESE people have said 'You looked better before.' or in one case an obese person just commented 'Yuk'.

As an morbidly obese person, If I posted my 50lb lost success in the success thread NO ONE would post "you looked better before." or "Yuk."

It's far easier to put someone down than to be productive and lift them up.

There are a lot of pretentious, self-important jerks on these forums (as there are in real life) who get their amusement out of running people down because they're too fat, too skinny, too muscular, not muscular enough, have too many tattoos, do the wrong kinds of exercise, set the wrong goals, weigh themselves too often, don't weigh themselves often enough, or because they choose to eat meat, eat carbs, drink alcohol, drink coffee... whatever.

On the other hand, there are many more good, supportive people with positive attitudes who go out of their way to be encouraging or to offer constructive suggestions to those who ask for it.

I pretty much ignore the trolls - they're basically doing it because they're attention *kitten*, and I refuse to give them the satisfaction of knowing they got me riled up by engaging in flame wars with them. Having said that, I know these people are hard to ignore sometimes when they're engaging in personal attacks on you or your choices.

Overall, I find using MFP to be an overwhelmingly positive experience. I'm here mainly for the tools, but I do enjoy participating in the message boards. And I won't let the rude comments from the haters out there get me down, or diminish my resolve to achieve my goals.

All of this.

First let me say that not all of us have gotten this way due to eating unhealthy.

I would like to see a healthy diet that causes you to be 100 pounds over weight...

Ignorance?

People get obese bc of themselves, that's all. Anything is fixable. Including being overweight.

Please elaborate...
I gained a ton of weight because I have a medical condition called PCOS. Unfortunately for me, it makes it much harder for me to lose the weight. I also gained weight when I was pregnant. I fail to see how a medical condition is "because of me". I'm not saying that I can't lose the weight or don't want to or that I have to have the fat sucked out or anything like that. I'm just saying that it's more difficult and that I'm more prone to gaining because of the condition.

PCOS didn't MAKE you gain weight. Calories did. I have PCOS as well. YES it is difficult to lose weight but in the end, our former lifestyles and eating habits made us fat. PERIOD. I cut back carbs, started exercising more and lost my first 25 lbs pretty quickly, then some more. It is possible.

No offense but I often feel people use medical conditions as a crutch or excuse. Too many CALORIES make you gain weight, nothing else.

the point is THIS IS A FITNESS WEBSITE!!!! Everyone here is wanting a CHANGE in themselves, regardless of what brought us here, we are here and don't need to be put down for WHATEVER reason

NO ONE is putting down the people that are making a change. They're putting down the ones who aren't.

And they shouldn't be.

No one should be put down on here, whether fat or thin, ED or not. People are here to change, and there is enough fat/ED bashing going on outside MFP. It has no place here.

OMG 8 pages of BooHOO...he said/she said....boo booo hooo.. Do yourselves a favor....and stop playing the victim. Yes there are mean people, as well as nice, on a public forum. Yes you may have a condition/state that has contributed to your weight/obesity problem. But for the love of god, or buddha, or whoever, stop lying to yourself & making excuses. Man it up. Suck it up.

Some people may have it easier than others, maybe they don't have a condition that hinders weight loss. Guess what? Life isn't fair.. What ya gonna do...cry about it...blame others?

It took me 40 years to get here. 40 years of excuses...trying to take the easy route....blaming others.

The comment was made about the now skinny & fit people on here that used to be obese ( & how they have forgotten what it was like) What a crock of s**t...... I haven't reached that "skinny & fit" state yet, however I'm quite a far distance from the almost 400 pound man I was. The difference between them , me & you ....we're no longer playing the victim....we have used knowledge as a weapon in this war on fat...we own up to our past shortcomings

I know i'm not coming over as a very nice guy...but generally I really am. Instead of investing time & effort into these "bashing threads"...do yourself a favor & GOOGLE. use that energy to gain some knowledge in the areas of nutrition and fitness

As mean as I may sound...I do say all of this with the best of intentions.

NO ONE is putting down the people that are making a change. They're putting down the ones who aren't.

Why is even THAT supposed to be okay, though? Leading a lifestyle that causes you to be obese is far from being the only way in which someone can make bad choices for their life, so why should an obese person be put down for theirs? Someone who puts down an obese person may not be obese, but they are surely flawed in other areas of their life and are simply lucky that strangers may not know what they are just by looking at them.

Lastly, even if a person who is obese due to their lifestyle is doing absolutely nothing about it, you still have absolutely no idea what is going on in their life. My mother is obese due to her eating habits and is doing absolutely nothing to lose weight, but she's also raised five kids, is 60-years-old, has always held and continues to hold a full-time job, and takes care of her disabled husband after work everyday and on weekends. Other people will have other things going on that may present obstacles, including mental and emotional issues, and they will hopefully overcome those and focus on getting healthy, but you just don't know what's going on with someone. Ideally, everyone would have the time, energy, motivation, and mental/emotional health to make a dedicated effort to lose weight like many of us here are, but like with anything else in life, things don't often work out perfectly that way and it would be naive to think that everything is that clear cut.

First let me say that not all of us have gotten this way due to eating unhealthy.

I would like to see a healthy diet that causes you to be 100 pounds over weight...

Look up healthy 2000 calorie diets, because that's what I'd eat to maintain my current weight of 240 pounds. ;D I'm pretty sure there are plenty out there.