for heavens sake, I STILL EAT BREAD AND LOSE WEIGHT!

I started on Feb 20th 2012 and I eat meat, veggies, and occasionally fruit and I am down 26lbs. I DON'T eat grains or processed sugars.


Oh, I don't binge, I don't have cravings anymore, and I am enjoying life! AND I don't have to do chronic cardio to lose weight. Just saying.

Great job! I feel the same was eating that way

same goes the other way - I don't understand how are some people so sure that food used for thousands and thousands of years, by billions of people, is is suddenly 'poisonous' for everyone.

Grain's importance in diet didn't become anything significant until humans became farmers. Grain's rise in popularity wasn't because of it's "superb" nutritional value, it was because it could be stored and transported for long periods of time, it could sustain a community during a drought or terrible growing season. Aside from being carbohydrate dense, grains offer nothing to the human body that cannot be found in more abundance in vegetables.

So yes you are right, humans have consumed it for thousands of years, but it isn't because of some extraordinary nutritional value, it was simply the ability to grow it, store it, and consume it in bulk, cheaply! However, IMO in nutritional value, it ranks right up there just above candy.

I eat bread almost every day! Is delicious!

I just don't understand why people think that everyone is the same. If something works for one person, it won't necessarily work someone else!!

same goes the other way - I don't understand how are some people so sure that food used for thousands and thousands of years, by billions of people, is is suddenly 'poisonous' for everyone.

What food is that?

I just don't understand why people think that everyone is the same. If something works for one person, it won't necessarily work someone else!!

same goes the other way - I don't understand how are some people so sure that food used for thousands and thousands of years, by billions of people, is suddenly 'poisonous' for everyone.

What food is that?

wheat.
btw, I responded to your question from the other day, about metabolism. (I think it's on page 10)

seen a lot of posts lately regarding "whole grain/wheat" bread/brown rice.. and such.. I am not understand why alot of people choose to cut them out COMPLETELY... I have lost weight with still eating bread, at a deficit.. eating healthy and working out...

please tell me I am not the only one? share YOUR success so we can put the "bad carbs" posts to rest!

If they cut them out completely and start seeing results they will keep doing it. Why don't you understand that? Maybe they really do only lose if removing carbs, maybe its just water weight in the beginning but it gives them incentive to continue with weight loss journey.

Clearly different things work for different people. Eating bread didn't work for me. I cut grains and lost 30 lbs in 3 months while eating a ton of other food.

My side effects were not lethargy as others report. Mine was increased energy, lack of joint pain (which I experienced daily), bloodwork turned awesome, retained all muscle mass, no longer allergic to cheese and other dairy.

Do whatever works for you. I know what works for me, and it did in spades.

I don't think it's carbs that are a diet danger...it's what you typically eat with those carbs. Think about it...Pizza: the cheese is bad, not the crust. Sandwhiches: the cheese or mayo or crappy processed meat, not the bread. Pasta: fatty meat and/or cheesey buttery sauces, not the pasta itself. I could go on and on...

Just started a vegan diet a week ago and I'm already down 3 lbs, and that's with no exercising! I'm thinking this lifestyle is my holy grail Lots of beans, veggies, and rice...these carbs aren't slowing me down!

I think its a bit soon to announce that lifestyle your holy grail as you've only been at it for a week. Plus you're doing the same thing as low carbers who cut out carbs - cutting out animal products to lose weight.

Considering it's only been a week and I've lost that much without exercising, I'd say it is. I'm not hungry throughout the day, my energy is much greater, and I just feel great. Every other plan I've ever tried left me hungry all day long between my meals-not this time.

Considering it's only been a week and I've lost that much without exercising, I'd say it is. I'm not hungry throughout the day, my energy is much greater, and I just feel great. Every other plan I've ever tried left me hungry all day long between my meals-not this time.

Assuming it was all fat that you lost which is highly unlikely. Plus you had a very low calorie, low protein week.

I don't think it's carbs that are a diet danger...it's what you typically eat with those carbs. Think about it...Pizza: the cheese is bad, not the crust. Sandwhiches: the cheese or mayo or crappy processed meat, not the bread. Pasta: fatty meat and/or cheesey buttery sauces, not the pasta itself. I could go on and on...

what's wrong with the cheese now??? :noway:
jeez the way this is going, someone's gonna come up with "the chocolate is bad for you" :frown:

Cheese is very high in calories, super salty, and full of artery-clogging fat...in comparison to a serving of pasta, or bread, or rice which is none of those things.

Carbs are necessary for proper brain funtion. Carbs are your bodies energy.
Want poor brain function and low energy.... skip the carbs.

No.

On many levels.

Recommended Reading - Wheat Belly.

Recommended Reading - Wheat Belly.

I just checked it out on amazon. So this book is telling ppl that wheat is making them fat? As far as I'm concerned, it's not wheat that's making you fat, it's sitting on your *kitten* that's making you fat.
I can guarantee you (intolerances aside) that if you had to physically work yourself, every step on the way, to produce the wheat and white bread you eat - you could eat as much of it as you want.
look at my profile pic, that's 400g to 500g of white brad every day, and that's just bread, not counting everything else during the day in the country where bakeries are the main fast food places. wheat belly, yeah right. and that's not just me. where I'm coming from, there are not 'overweight' people - if you are not skinny, too bad, you're fat, social standard is just very high coz everyone is skinny.

In diets past, I have still eaten whole wheat breads and grains and have lost weight. Portion control is the key to any successful diet. I find that every so often there are diets that come out leaving out certain food groups which is sad. A person does need there grains for good health.

Please help save my "health". How am I destroying my good health by not eating grains?.... And BTW, I don't participate in portion control, I eat as much as I want.