Now they are going to ban free refills on drinks?
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You're trying to make it a Republican issue simply for the fact it's at the state level? Yes, HUGE stretch bud. The way you say it...you'd think all state government officials were Republican.
That's a stretch dude.People who keep saying, "This is why I vote Republican" don't realize that's kinda contradictory. Yeah she's a Democrat but it isn't the Federal Government that is imposing this rule. It is a local state government, one of the fundemental ideals Republicans strive for -- State's Rights.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....
How is that a stretch? Republicans always get angry that the Federal Government is dictating so much and totally removing each individual state's ability to choose for themselves. They clamor for State's Rights all the time. This is an example of a State deciding, not Federal.
SOOOO unless this stretch you're refering to is tiny, it's not much of one.0 -
Government trying to control things as usual. I still see it as a precurser to taking steps to curtail freedom of choice. Start by dictating what products and/or sizes of said products may be sold then move on to everyones personal freedoms. Oh, wait, what freedoms? You can only purchase what the government mandates is to be sold now. (A future comming to you soon).0
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The fact that people would even get upset over banning free refills is just beyond me. It is certainly not the end of the world and believe me you will survive. If you are so desperate for more soda just buy another. I just don't see the big deal at all. You're so upset about the government regulating this, you want free choice, etc... but they regulate so many other things already!
Actually, I get upset about the government regulating things they have no business regulating... regardless of how inane it is... but again, that's why I vote Libertarian.... But I do find it funny that in Sweden it's legal to have sex with a dog, but not ok to have however many "free" refills one would like... (just trying to make a comparison based on liberal (ie to be free, individualism, etc) tendencies of the country... I really couldn't care less what a person does or doesn't do as long is it is not infringing on the rights of others)
sweden refills aren't banned, they just don't do it. Like most places in Europe, unless its in chained resturants i.e subway etc
sweden, france, uk are all free countries like the US, not as much a free market but we have just as much freedom, you americans don't have as much freedom as alot of you think .. well the smart ones i have met seem to realise they don't but ones online don't seem to.. its sad.0 -
People also kill themselves with ropes. Better ban them. Some people kill themselves by car (whether it be in a garage or on the road). Better ban 'em! People kill themselves with over the counter drugs. Better get rid of those too.
Where does it end??? At what point do we stand up and say, "enough is enough! No big government!" ?0 -
But it is the governments responsibility to take care of their people... and soda is extremely unhealthy.
Again, then don't drink one. But don't tell me that I can't have one... and don't tell me how much I am allowed to have... I'm not 8 and you (nor the Government) are not my mother.... I am a literate American adult, I am perfectly capible of making my own decisions, as are much of the population.... if someone wants to kill themselves slowly with soda and blame it on their thyroid, then by god let them. One less stupid person roaming this planet.
But again... no one is telling you how much soda you can have! They're just telling you can't have as much as you want for FREE at a restaurant!
That should be the restaurant's decision.... not the Governments decision... If resaurants decided they wanted people to pay for every single soda they drink and how big their glasses where, then that would be one thing.... but for the Government to decide because they "know better than the general population" is appalling to me. But again, I'm not a big fan of authoritarian governments.0 -
I feel as if some people are typing like they are crying on the otherside of a computer screen at the rumour of banning FREE refills.. its sad.0
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Oh yeah...because I totally go to a restaurant for the free refills. That got me in the door.
And yes they can regulate that sort of thing...if they were marketing "free guns with any happy meal" the government would step in. How is it any different? Guns don't kill people...idiot people do. Soda doesn't kill people...idiot people kill themselves.
Because the use of a gun can infringe on the rights of others (ultimately their life and thusly liberty and the pursuit of happiness) whereas, a soda infringes on no one elses rights except for the person that consumes too much of it.
There are already laws in regards to infringing on the rights of others. Gun control should not be one of them. It should not be clamped down on because "one can take life and liberty from someone else with them" since its already illegal to kill someone.
Gun control is anti-rights.
Anyone who claims Libertarian should be against any form of infringement of rights. Anti-gun = anti-rights.0 -
Oh yeah...because I totally go to a restaurant for the free refills. That got me in the door.
And yes they can regulate that sort of thing...if they were marketing "free guns with any happy meal" the government would step in. How is it any different? Guns don't kill people...idiot people do. Soda doesn't kill people...idiot people kill themselves.
Because the use of a gun can infringe on the rights of others (ultimately their life and thusly liberty and the pursuit of happiness) whereas, a soda infringes on no one elses rights except for the person that consumes too much of it.
That's actually not true. Tax payers and People who buy insurance subsidize the people that do not, so when those people who chose not to buy in to the health care system slip into a diabetic coma and need medical attention, it affects everyone else.0 -
You're trying to make it a Republican issue simply for the fact it's at the state level? Yes, HUGE stretch bud. The way you say it...you'd think all state government officials were Republican.
That's a stretch dude.People who keep saying, "This is why I vote Republican" don't realize that's kinda contradictory. Yeah she's a Democrat but it isn't the Federal Government that is imposing this rule. It is a local state government, one of the fundemental ideals Republicans strive for -- State's Rights.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....
How is that a stretch? Republicans always get angry that the Federal Government is dictating so much and totally removing each individual state's ability to choose for themselves. They clamor for State's Rights all the time. This is an example of a State deciding, not Federal.
SOOOO unless this stretch you're refering to is tiny, it's not much of one.
I'm not making it a Republican Issue or blaming it on the Republicans. I'm just saying that saying "This is why I vote Republican" is a contradictory statement. That's all. Plus I'm a registered Republican and still feel this way.0 -
People kill themselves with over the counter drugs. Better get rid of those too.
K...so what if McDonald's was giving out free OTC drugs with every purchase?0 -
Oh yeah...because I totally go to a restaurant for the free refills. That got me in the door.
And yes they can regulate that sort of thing...if they were marketing "free guns with any happy meal" the government would step in. How is it any different? Guns don't kill people...idiot people do. Soda doesn't kill people...idiot people kill themselves.
Because the use of a gun can infringe on the rights of others (ultimately their life and thusly liberty and the pursuit of happiness) whereas, a soda infringes on no one elses rights except for the person that consumes too much of it.
There are already laws in regards to infringing on the rights of others. Gun control should not be one of them. It should not be clamped down on because "one can take life and liberty from someone else with them" since its already illegal to kill someone.
Gun control is anti-rights.
Anyone who claims Libertarian should be against any form of infringement of rights. Anti-gun = anti-rights.
Getting way off topic, but how unregulated do you think guns should be? Down to the level of every other good in this country, or lower? Guns sold by street venders? Children? Just curious..0 -
Every time I hear a stupid idea like this, I am reminded to always vote Republican.
Yes because the Patriot Act is the least invasive civil liberty killer ever!0 -
I'm actually LMAO at this. Oh no, actually PAYING for what you drink! If you want more soda, get your wallet out. What a freaking sense of entitlement. *rolls eyes* #firstworldproblems0
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The fact that people would even get upset over banning free refills is just beyond me. It is certainly not the end of the world and believe me you will survive. If you are so desperate for more soda just buy another. I just don't see the big deal at all. You're so upset about the government regulating this, you want free choice, etc... but they regulate so many other things already!
Actually, I get upset about the government regulating things they have no business regulating... regardless of how inane it is... but again, that's why I vote Libertarian.... But I do find it funny that in Sweden it's legal to have sex with a dog, but not ok to have however many "free" refills one would like... (just trying to make a comparison based on liberal (ie to be free, individualism, etc) tendencies of the country... I really couldn't care less what a person does or doesn't do as long is it is not infringing on the rights of others)
sweden refills aren't banned, they just don't do it. Like most places in Europe, unless its in chained resturants i.e subway etc
sweden, france, uk are all free countries like the US, not as much a free market but we have just as much freedom, you americans don't have as much freedom as alot of you think .. well the smart ones i have met seem to realise they don't but ones online don't seem to.. its sad.
Nope, I totally realize it.... I have stated that if too many of our rights are restricted (which is why I fight against things that are seemingly inane like free refills) that I would definitely move to a European country.... while I also prefer things like free markets (truly free markets, not this corporatist crap that our government and progressive think tanks tout as "free markets")... I prefer individual freedom more so.0 -
People kill themselves with over the counter drugs. Better get rid of those too.
K...so what if McDonald's was giving out free OTC drugs with every purchase?
Thats there choice...and guess what...thanks to are supposed freedom in this country, you have a choice not to buy it.
Free markets will also even that kind of crap out. If someone wants it they will buy it, if they dont, they wont.0 -
Even my 14 year old gets it. She asked what I'm arguing about now... and I said that there's a state that wants to ban free refills on soda pop. She asked why. I said because soda pop makes people fat. She said, "no; people's choices make them fat..."
If a 14 year old can get it, why can't adults??0 -
People kill themselves with over the counter drugs. Better get rid of those too.
K...so what if McDonald's was giving out free OTC drugs with every purchase?
Thats there choice...and guess what...thanks to are supposed freedom in this country, you have a choice not to buy it.
Free markets will also even that kind of crap out. If someone wants it they will buy it, if they dont, they wont.
Lmao...so you'd be cool with McD's giving out free cough syrup?0 -
I'm actually LMAO at this. Oh no, actually PAYING for what you drink! If you want more soda, get your wallet out. What a freaking sense of entitlement. *rolls eyes*
Shouldn't it be the businesses decision to charge for refills? The government doesn't give two ****s about our health. This is about generating extra tax revenue plain and simple. People WILL pay for refills, and they will be charged more tax. Open up your eyes.0 -
Everyone is getting upset over something being taken away from them that they can already have in the first place. All you have to do is pay for it. Why does it have to be free?0
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Even my 14 year old gets it. She asked what I'm arguing about now... and I said that there's a state that wants to ban free refills on soda pop. She asked why. I said because soda pop makes people fat. She said, "no; people's choices make them fat..."
If a 14 year old can get it, why can't adults??
My thoughts exactly.
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Where I live most restaurants don't allow free refills. They don't sell drinks any bigger than the American sized Medium either. You are more than welcome to purchase another drink though.
I don't see anything wrong with banning free refills. If you want more than pay for it? They're not telling you that you can't have more.
The problem is that its not the establishment banning it, its the government. Even if they wanted to allow it, they couldn't becuase it wouldn't be allowed. You see where the issue lies? Government shouldn't have that kind of role in our lives.0 -
People kill themselves with over the counter drugs. Better get rid of those too.
K...so what if McDonald's was giving out free OTC drugs with every purchase?
Thats there choice...and guess what...thanks to are supposed freedom in this country, you have a choice not to buy it.
Free markets will also even that kind of crap out. If someone wants it they will buy it, if they dont, they wont.
Lmao...so you'd be cool with McD's giving out free cough syrup?
Ya why? I got a free sample of deodorant the last time I bought a magazine...whats the difference? If McDonalds wants to waste money on that, that's there business...not the governments.0 -
Oh yeah...because I totally go to a restaurant for the free refills. That got me in the door.
And yes they can regulate that sort of thing...if they were marketing "free guns with any happy meal" the government would step in. How is it any different? Guns don't kill people...idiot people do. Soda doesn't kill people...idiot people kill themselves.
Because the use of a gun can infringe on the rights of others (ultimately their life and thusly liberty and the pursuit of happiness) whereas, a soda infringes on no one elses rights except for the person that consumes too much of it.
There are already laws in regards to infringing on the rights of others. Gun control should not be one of them. It should not be clamped down on because "one can take life and liberty from someone else with them" since its already illegal to kill someone.
Gun control is anti-rights.
Anyone who claims Libertarian should be against any form of infringement of rights. Anti-gun = anti-rights.
I do disagree with any infrigement of rights... but I was trying to stay on topic here with the main soda thread and not going off into a tangent.0 -
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.0
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It's amazing how many people echo the sentiment "But it's not the government's place to say he CAN'T " on the issue of sodapop (or whatever the flavor of the day will be), all while proudly proclaiming their support for a political party that thinks the government should be able to tell us who we can and can't marry, and what we can and can't do to our bodies, etc.0
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People kill themselves with over the counter drugs. Better get rid of those too.
K...so what if McDonald's was giving out free OTC drugs with every purchase?
School nurses aren't even allowed to give out OTC drugs... I doubt that it would fly. Just as good an argument as the guns, though. Great job.0 -
Open yours. The rest of the world doesn't do free refills. User pays.I'm actually LMAO at this. Oh no, actually PAYING for what you drink! If you want more soda, get your wallet out. What a freaking sense of entitlement. *rolls eyes*
Shouldn't it be the businesses decision to charge for refills? The government doesn't give two ****s about our health. This is about generating extra tax revenue plain and simple. People WILL pay for refills, and they will be charged more tax. Open up your eyes.0 -
Welcome to the Nanny State. Destination: Total control of our personal lives and freedoms.0
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Every time I hear a stupid idea like this, I am reminded to always vote Republican.
:huh:0 -
People kill themselves with over the counter drugs. Better get rid of those too.
K...so what if McDonald's was giving out free OTC drugs with every purchase?
Thats there choice...and guess what...thanks to are supposed freedom in this country, you have a choice not to buy it.
Free markets will also even that kind of crap out. If someone wants it they will buy it, if they dont, they wont.
Lmao...so you'd be cool with McD's giving out free cough syrup?
Ya why? I got a free sample of deodorant the last time I bought a magazine...whats the difference? If McDonalds wants to waste money on that, that's there business...not the governments.
Hmmm...
Use too much deoderant = You smell like a douche.
Use too much cough syrup = You end up high or in the hospital.0
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